Mini 935 -- The Fountainhead (Completed)

[Budja]

/Strawberry.

My lie detector just started beeping like crazy.

So he's scummy but no vote?

vote Almaster

[Budja]

I like Budja's catch that AGM out and out called Zang a liar, but that wasn't good enough reason to vote for him. My suspicion is furthered by how quickly AGM acquiesces to then vote Zang after Budja votes for him.

Why isn't that a good-enough reason?
What is the problem with Almaster's vote? It was a slight point in his favour IMO.

[Budja]

Much better.

[Budja]

Ah Fate, DDD is giving reasons. You haven't given your thoughts on Almaster at all.
So..?

Dx3 could hardly comment on a situation which didn't exist. (Sorry RC, I couldn't help it.)

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Almaster's posts as much more light and fluffy than Zang's.

...and scummier too.

Zang

could

be over-defensive scum but could just as easily be over-defensive town. His actions are pretty null to me.

[Budja]

That's how I read it. That said, I'm unwilling to push his wagon any further because I know that I've done this in the past as town (and I don't want to be a part of a day 1 quicklynch),

So would you be voting for Almaster if he had less votes? (i.e is he your scummiest).

@Almaster, see post 65. Fate is fluff but not scummy fluff.

I do not think this is much of a scum tell but instead a sign of a careful townie.

Uh, why?

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That unvote by horror was most certainly appeasement (i.e. scummy).

unvote, vote horror

.

[Budja]

I forgot to add:

I'm confused as to how DDD bolding some words in a sentence and re-explaining what was already pretty clear (in my mind, at least) makes this true.

I like Budja's catch that AGM out and out called Zang a liar, but that wasn't good enough reason to vote for him.

I like Budja's catch that AGM out and out called Zang a liar, but that

it

wasn't good enough reason for

AGM

to vote for him

[Zang]

.

Changes the meaning significantly.

[Budja]

My fault, sorry for the name mix-up.

[Budja]

Gosh, you sound certain there Fate.

Not leaving the horror wagon just because he is away.

[Budja]

Oi, that was my wagon .

Sorry DDD but horror > Almaster.

[Budja]

Two questions.

Why the sudden change on Zang? You believed his over-defensiveness to be null before.
Why are you voting cruelty when he is your #3?

unvote, vote: Kthxbye

, that post was really weak.

[Budja]

Ok, I just didn't like the cruelty vote for lying. It looks to me like reaching for a suspect, voting someone for lying over not reading the fruit rule is more than a little silly IMO.

That said, his attack on Zang is not weak. I assumed it was part of the "reaching for suspects" feel and I didn't look that closely.

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Is it because I am the scummiest person in your eyes, or is it for possibly another motive...pressure for instance.

Bit of both, I thought your stances were contrived but you explained yourself and your comment on Zang was don't as bad as I thought.

unvote

.

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I'll post more in a bit I feel a bit more "sane". I don't want to drop the ball on this game.

[Budja]

I had a post. I refreshed .
Bascially:
re

vote:horror

cruelty reads misconception over scum.
Fate looks better.
No time to post until tomorrow.

[Budja]

No prob with Fate. DDD's post 155 explains it best.

[Budja]

I say we lynch the player, not the slot.

Not sure how to read this. By lynching the player, we are lynching the slot. If it wasn't for the rest of your post I would interpret this as liking a replacement over a lynch.

@Porkens, Zang is potentually more of a deadweight, but I believe we are more likely to hit scum on horror. Join the better wagon.

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Anyway, SpyreX, Porkens are both playing to "meta" (see BaM).
Also I'm pretty sure I agree with them. I would quite like a horror lynch now.

[Budja]

^ Yeah in context, thats the message I got.

[Budja]

I'll be able to post properly later but for now I doubly endorse a horror/death lynch.

[Budja]

A fight would mean longer posts from both.

FYI, I am

always

fairly brief.

Calling it a horror/death lynch is an attempt at guilt by association, which is somewhat unfair.

It was to reduce confusion after the replacement

but

you are guilty by association. You replaced into a scummy slot and gave a scummy claim.

I can't get on board with the idea that Zang is Lawful Good.

More like Chaotic good. His play isn't impressing but I see can't see scum motivated.

@Kthx, any questions then?

[Budja]

About time, etc. Who cares who hammered as long as it was done .

[Budja]

Well I believe Almaster at least deserves the benefit of the doubt for now .

[Budja]

@Kthx, your post taken in context with the one's above seem to indicate that the option of AGM "not being a cop" could be why he was not killed.

Why else did you mention it?

[Budja]

vote Kthxbye

[Budja]

I thought you were responding to Almaster not Porkens.
I also saw your questioning re. d3x as attack of sorts. (not quite sure of the exact wording of what I'm trying to convey. Defensive-attack maybe )

I wasn't online. Besides, smart scum would bus DDD anyway.
I don't like your opinion on this.

[Budja]

Guess.
My views on you have adapted. You are not scummy for your initial post but the ones that followed.
Your reaction to d3x, me.
Your focus on DDD wagon.
Also, your over-the top sense of self-preservation .
(Your last few posts also feel off, so gut too).
I'm happy where I stand.

[Budja]

Nice find Fate. I'm

very

happy with my vote.
Cruelty point is valid (I was thinking in a similar way towards that quote) but plays against your "careful voter" playstyle. (Any reason for the change in attitude?)

RC's case does nothing for me. I don't read cruelty/DDD scumbuddies from those quotes.
If Kthx is scum, RC would be a good candidate for third scum IMO.

[Budja]

I'd have lynched AGM too . Well played Porkens.