Open 205 - Medical Mafia - Game Over Too Soon?

[XScorpion]

/CONFORM!
Yes, I'm being a rebel by conforming. Take that!

[XScorpion]

Why me? Because Lookerscum defeated my town last game
I've seen scum suggest plans like that before and been defended by "I don't think scum would want to go and suggest a plan like that." I'm not buying it again.

Vote: Mykonian

[XScorpion]

The first I remember was when someone suggested a follow-the-cop strategy, although it didn't go through because there ended up being no cop...it seemed like rolefishing to me anyway.
I guess you could just say I'm wary about the last game where a scum started the game by killing the RVS (I like RVS) and asking a bunch of role-fishing questions.
Obviously rolefishing is kind of pointless here, but I'm still wary of people with those 'innovative' ideas that kill my beloved RVS.

[XScorpion]

Because you avoid all discussion about why the plan is actually scummy, and just go with general consensus and conspiracy thinking.

Because the reasons behind why your plan is horrible have already been given. Mindgamer said it best: assuming you are scum, your plan was to construct the circle yourself, organize it so that scum will be next to each other, then watch as 3 doctors get killed tonight.
If "not using night powers" was such a good strategy, why didn't you suggest it first?
I don't understand what this means:

Now, why are you excusing yourself for something that seems wrong, but you just can´t help it?

On a side note, I don't think I've heard anything scummier than this yet:

Well, it seems like our night strategy will be more important than our day discussion.

This just screams scum to me.

[XScorpion]

P.S. Only obv. scum speak in third person.

[XScorpion]

I vote against the idea of a circle, period.

[XScorpion]

My bad about the misquote lol.

Sadly, this is mindgamers quote, and even then it is completely out of context, since it was a joke of his. Are you manipulating, dear scorpion?

Yes because I'm gonna do such a good job convincing people of your scumminess by deliberately attacking you with a quote that you didn't actually say </sarcasm>. Is it really that hard to believe that not everyone plays perfect games? If you actually did read my last game through then you'd know I'm pretty failtown

why did this sentence end up under my name, and why don't you vote mindgamer for this ( I know you won't, I just want to hear from you, why)

Because
1) I wasn't paying attention
2) Because coming from him, it's not serious. Whereas it seems kind of like the thing you would say and mean it. I still don't like how you are putting so much emphasis on night actions and very little during the day on who is scum and why we should vote them. Do you honestly not suspect anyone other than me? When I die, who are you voting next?

Well, we already know that one of you is scum, we just have to figure out which. We're currently in the process of doing so.

I wish this were true, oh I really do. Unfortunately you are completely wrong, and it is easily possible that both of me and Mykonian are just misguided townies. If we actually knew for a fact that either I'm scum or Mykonian is, there really shouldn't be any hesitation to just kill one of us then lynch the other the next day.

[XScorpion]

wtf at voting for a guy who hasn't posted anything yet. Why are you so gung-ho to lynch him?

unvote
Vote: Looker

Vote Count #4

Light (2) - SaintKerrigan, Mindgamer
mykonian (1) - DiscoRoboto
danny135 (1) - Looker
Looker (1) - XScorpion
Mindgamer (1) - mykonian

Not Voting (3) - danny135, Light, kyle99

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

I'm a Doctor, not a Mafia Goon! - Leonard McCoy

[XScorpion]

what do i think of xscorpion?

he is an intelligent poster, and obviously been playing mafia for awhile now, so i wouldn't think of dismissing any of his suggestions off the bat.

LOL I find this hilarious.

[XScorpion]

Well XScorp, see it as a compliment

Could you add anything to the conversation?

Yes, I could add that I'm actually not as intelligent as I pretend to be and some people are right to call me out on it.

I'd normally join the Mykonian train but I'm still really suspicious about Looker's actions towards Danny.

[XScorpion]

Oh btw, I'm confused. Why do we know that either XScorpion or Mykonian is scum?

Because Looker's word is law.

[XScorpion]

Worked how? Danny was prodded, but still isn't here. I fail to see how trying to get a Danny bandwagon started is pro-town in any way.

[XScorpion]

Sorry, it's midterm week and I've been busy, still got 2 midterms left on wednesday and saturday

@XScorpion: What is your take on Disco "Nigga Please" Roboto?

Although he behaves townish, I dislike how he hasn't voted, which is scummy to me (although probably not to most people.

@XScorpion: I know you disagreed with my Danny-wagon, but my Light-wagon is a good one. I think you should join. Yeah, I think you should.

I don't understand what you are trying to do. You try to get people to join your fail wagons, and then abandon them afterward? What's the deal here? Are you just trying to lynch people rather than scum hunt?

[XScorpion]

If you want information about myself, feel free to ask me any questions and I will answer them. I don't plan on wasting any time defending myself.

[XScorpion]

What is FoS?
@xscorpion why do you think kyle99 suspected you as one of the scum?
who are your current suspects?
What is your view on disco and stk?

2. Kyle99 suspected me as scum because I've been lurking like crazy and been too busy to scumhunt.
3. Currently looker is #1, followed by Mykonian, although after I began to write this post, Disco is probably going to replace Mykonian.
4. On Disco:

Although he behaves townish, I dislike how he hasn't voted, which is scummy to me (although probably not to most people.

On StK: Almost certainly town. Post 269 brings up a VERY good point. I don't like how Disco has one way that he plans on playing (only voting when he is sure), and a completely different way for how he wants others to play (vote for pressure).
1. FoS = Finger of suspicion, it's what people use to suggest that they believe people may be scum without voting for them. For example,

FoS: Disco

because only a scum should expect the rest of town to play differently than himself.

[XScorpion]

I don't see how Looker trying to lynch Danny was anything other than a scum attempt to kill off a townie who wasn't defending himself.
Also the insistence that either I or Mykonian MUST be scum, is scummy.
Also if an "XScorpion lynch would be beautiful", why is he not voting for me?

[XScorpion]

Yes, because me voting for Looker since he is my #1 is clearly wishy-washy. </sarcasm>

[XScorpion]

My 12th post

Although he behaves townish, I dislike how he hasn't voted, which is scummy to me (although probably not to most people.

[XScorpion]

Wut
Pretty sure he has a vote on someone now...where do you get the impression that I believe nothing's changed?

[XScorpion]

The way he has used his vote (as in, not very wisely) is my main reason for being suspicious of him, and although he has placed a vote on someone, his vote isn't having a major impact. So yes, Disco has changed, but my opinion of him has not.
I'd say if not for me drawing votes away then Disco would probably be lynched already because he plays so defensively.

[XScorpion]

I'm not stopping it.
I'm simply distracting people with my anti-town behaviour.
You have every reason to want to lynch him, except that in some ways I am more scummy than him.

[XScorpion]

And that would be bad.
When is the deadline?

[XScorpion]

Like Mindgamer knows, I like to have lurkers lynched pretty soon. Having a lurker go through until endgame is practically suicide, even if he is a townie.

My motivations on lynching lurkers is that when a lurker comes into lategame/endgame he has NO knowledge on the game (at least if I replace or join the game later on I don't have the vibes I normally have) which makes it doubtful if he will be helpful. Besides that, nobody got a read on him. Lurking isn't a scumtell per se, so lynching him would be a guess. I hate guessing in my lynches.

So if Town is willing to agree with me, let's lynch kyle.

In the past I have shared your argument that lynching lurkers is a good idea early on (for the exact same reasons you've listed above), but it doesn't make sense to vote a lurker when there are so many very scummy targets.

[XScorpion]

What part do you not understand?

In the past I have shared your argument that lynching lurkers is a good idea early on

Other games I have advocated voting the lurker due to the belief that voting for anyone else (in those other games) was no more likely to turn up scum. Come endgame, I'd rather have a lurker than someone who acts scummy.

but it doesn't make sense to vote a lurker when there are so many very scummy targets.

I don't want to vote Kyle because today we should be lynching one of:
Myself
Disco
Light
Looker

[XScorpion]

I'm curious as to why you think that everyone has hidden motives behind what they do.
I'm trying to state the obvious because for some reason you don't seem to get it.

I'm voting you because I think you are scum because you are doing things that make no sense to me, which is exactly what you did last time. You accused me of being scum in 191, and didn't vote me because you were scum trying to keep options open. Here you are doing the exact same thing: you claim that I am probably scum, yet don't vote for me. Why?

[XScorpion]

I didn't claim you were scum?

I said your lynch would be beautiful,

What does this even mean?

[XScorpion]

So you're saying that you think I'm going to turn up scum and then you would be cleared as town because I'm attacking you?

[XScorpion]

So if I provide a case against you, which would basically just be a re-iteration of my points that:
You tried to lynch Danny which serves no purpose.
You claim it is a FACT that either I or Mykonian is scum, which you cannot know for certain unless you are scum yourself.
You aren't voting for either of us.

This would make me less useless? I don't see what difference it would make, since you still haven't said why those points don't make you scum.
I also find it ironic that Mykonian points out me, Light and StK for "wishywashy" behaviour, but not you. What's the deal with that?

[XScorpion]

Care to explain why you
A) Wanted a wagon on Danny in the first place, and
b) why you named specific people that you wanted on the wagon?

Despite your eagerness to exaggerate,

I didn't claim it was fact

that either you or Mykonian were scum.

Well,

we already know that one of you is scum

, we just have to figure out which. We're currently in the process of doing so.

Then what exactly does that mean? As far as I'm concerned, saying "We already know" something is claiming that said something is a fact.

- Why should I be voting for either of you right now? Mykonian, maybe, but why you?

Better question is, why SHOULDN'T you be voting for me, or any other of the people you call "commoners"? Is there someone who deserves to be lynched right now? If so, why is your vote on one of the people you claim that are not suspicious?

[XScorpion]

At present time, Light because I don't like how he votes, and right now he isn't voting anyone which contributes to no lynch.

[XScorpion]

At present time, Light because I don't like how he votes, and right now he isn't voting anyone which contributes to no lynch.

Light Yagami over me...?

Only to avoid no lynch because no lynch is disastrous for town. If I can get you lynched I will because I think you are scum but if deadline was right now I would switch my vote.

[XScorpion]

When your responses to my questions are "eggs", I find it hard to respond differently than how you suggest.

[XScorpion]

WTF at looker hammering before a claim. If Disco is the nurse you deserve to get lynched next.

[XScorpion]

oh rofl
hes scum
my bad

[XScorpion]

SCORE!!!!!
I eventually decided Looker wasn't scum and went with the next guy, who was the right choice

[XScorpion]

Sorry Looker, I respect strength, not WEAK doctors XD