Open 188 - Tweed Mafia - Over!

[Nikanor]

So the red flags look more like scumbuddies, you mean? I was thinking the 'Lowell lynch is just as good as Suave lynch' was fencesitting in case she needed/wanted to flip back to Lowell, but I guess it does make even better sense for it to be scumbuddies.

[Zachrulez]

So the red flags look more like scumbuddies, you mean? I was thinking the 'Lowell lynch is just as good as Suave lynch' was fencesitting in case she needed/wanted to flip back to Lowell, but I guess it does make even better sense for it to be scumbuddies.

That is a plausible possibility I have started to think about. I have also considered the possibility that she's distancing from the Lowell lynch because she knows he'll flip town.

[Nikanor]

I have also considered the possibility that she's distancing from the Lowell lynch because she knows he'll flip town.

In that case, why would she say that Lowell is just as good a lynch? It's slightly WIFOMic, but it doesn't make sense for her to be scum distancing from a townLowell lynch with her vote on Suave.

[Zachrulez]

I have also considered the possibility that she's distancing from the Lowell lynch because she knows he'll flip town.

In that case, why would she say that Lowell is just as good a lynch? It's slightly WIFOMic, but it doesn't make sense for her to be scum distancing from a townLowell lynch with her vote on Suave.

You're right, it does keep the option of his lynch open.

[Starbuck]

I had a lengthy discussion with Kittymo about it. It's the fact that she doesn't really seem very willing to support a Lowell lynch and is more interested in Suave. That whole thing just seems like a distraction.

I think you are wrong here. I mentioned it in my catch up post. She's voting for Suave, but said she'd be more interested in a Lowell lynch.

[Zachrulez]

I had a lengthy discussion with Kittymo about it. It's the fact that she doesn't really seem very willing to support a Lowell lynch and is more interested in Suave. That whole thing just seems like a distraction.

I think you are wrong here. I mentioned it in my catch up post. She's voting for Suave, but said she'd be more interested in a Lowell lynch.

Yeah, her stance doesn't really make any sense. I tend to look more at where the vote is vs what the player is saying.

[StrangerCoug]

Meh... there's actually a post from Lowell that's been eating at me because it doesn't really make sense if he's scum.

Vote: StrangerCoug

Elaborate please.

That you have moved your vote does not give you the right to ignore me.

FoS: Zachrulez

[Zachrulez]

Meh... there's actually a post from Lowell that's been eating at me because it doesn't really make sense if he's scum.

Vote: StrangerCoug

Elaborate please.

That you have moved your vote does not give you the right to ignore me.

FoS: Zachrulez

You were next on my suspicion list. I think I cover it in iso 113. The rest of it's gut.

[StrangerCoug]

OK, so you think I bussed farside22. What leads you to that thinking?

[Zachrulez]

Your placement on the wagon and a gut feeling about your hammering post.

[DTMaster]

Vote count:

XScorpion (0) -
Lowell (4) - XScorpion, Nikanor, Strangercoug, Zachrulez
StrangerCoug (0) -
MrSuave (1) - KittyMo
Nikanor (0) -
Starbuck(0)
nhammen (0) -
KittyMo (1) - Lowell,
Zachrulez (0) -


Not Voting (0)
MrSuave, Starbuck, nhammen,

5 large, massive, ginormous, enlarged, days left till the deadline.

[nhammen]

A quick KittyMo ISO gives me the impression that she hasn't attacked Lowell really heavily, if it doesn't confirm it. While I will entertain the possibility that she could be scum, I don't think she's scum with Lowell. Something about KittyMo bussing Lowell isn't ringing.

Well then, what is scumkitty's motivation for avoiding attacking townLowell? At that point, enough of the town was pursuing a Lowell lynch, that scum could get away with it without taking scumpoints. Why not do this?

I think the answer is very simple—she could want us to think that someone other than Lowell-town is scum; therefore, she would be avoiding what she might perceive as an easy mislynch. I'm more confident in Lowell-scum than KittyMo-scum, however, therefore my stating my preference for which one.

Ummm... what? Why would scum want us to think someone else is scum if Lowell's town? I don't get your argument.

On nhammen

Lowell flipping scum would practically confirm a few players as town.

I'm uncomfortable with you assuming this.

Yeah, I can see why that could end up being a bad assumption, but there are a lot of players that I don't see as being partners with both farside and Lowell.

So the red flags look more like scumbuddies, you mean? I was thinking the 'Lowell lynch is just as good as Suave lynch' was fencesitting in case she needed/wanted to flip back to Lowell, but I guess it does make even better sense for it to be scumbuddies.

That is a plausible possibility I have started to think about. I have also considered the possibility that she's distancing from the Lowell lynch because she knows he'll flip town.

OK, do you think kitty or Lowell is more likely to be scum, because this looks like you are saying one thing and voting another.

I have also considered the possibility that she's distancing from the Lowell lynch because she knows he'll flip town.

In that case, why would she say that Lowell is just as good a lynch? It's slightly WIFOMic, but it doesn't make sense for her to be scum distancing from a townLowell lynch with her vote on Suave.

I agree, which is why SC and Lowell's accusations against kitty don't seem right to me.


Also:
Lowell, claim.

[Starbuck]

Mod: Lowell's last post can be found here on Tuesday.

Prod please.

[Nikanor]

I think Lowell already claimed VT, tbh.

[Lowell]

Yah VT. Don't lynch me until I can give you a full list of scum. Thanks.

[StrangerCoug]

Make your last words quick.

[MrSuave]

Scum will be on Lowell's wagon. Scum flip or not. He was just too easy of a target. Nik and Zach both earn points on my scummy list. One person on my top 3 is scum. I say top 3 because I'm thinking Lowell is as good as dead. Again when I say one, I imply at least 1. Beause I still feel that all the scum were on my list. As a reminder my list was kitty, zach, Lowell, and nik. In that order.

[XScorpion]

Why does no one have anything to ask me? If I was scum it would be gg for town right now :/
Either kill Lowell already or at least pressure me, I'm getting bored.

[Zachrulez]

Let's keep in mind that the day ends Wednesday and we need a hammer for a lynch by then, otherwise there won't be a lynch.

[Lowell]

Okay I'm a convert. Scorpion, Zach, and especially SC are all town. More thoughts coming.

[Starbuck]

Lowell, you are the one stalling this game.

More thoughts at a quicker pace please.

[nhammen]

Make your last words quick.

I wish he would.

Why does no one have anything to ask me? If I was scum it would be gg for town right now :/
Either kill Lowell already or at least pressure me, I'm getting bored.

OK, this isn't the first time you have decided to add WIFOM to the discussion by mentioning the "what if I were scum" factor. Why do this?
And since you want questions: you have on multiple occasions stated that you don't believe farside was bussed. How much will Lowell's flip affect this belief?

Let's keep in mind that the day ends Wednesday and we need a hammer for a lynch by then, otherwise there won't be a lynch.

Oh, don't worry about that. I will hammer him. He just keeps saying that he has more info to give, so I am willing to wait. It really looks like he is trying to stall though, hoping that someone else will draw attention. The only reason I haven't hammered yet is that I don't see any harm in letting the day last just a bit longer and having that bit more discussion.

Okay I'm a convert. Scorpion, Zach, and especially SC are all town. More thoughts coming.

Why did it take you that long to post that little information? Why don't you post these "more thoughts" now instead of later?

[Starbuck]

Lowell, can post in other games but can't post here. I'm sorry but I'm tired of waiting.

Unvote, Vote: Lowell

[Zachrulez]

We still had two days to deadline, and I was curious whether Lowell actually had more to say, but given all the stalling he's done, I can't say I mind that hammer overall.

[Zachrulez]

I saw DTM around posting while the hammer went down.

Nikanor, if you would be so kind as a prod DTM with your fists at the next available opportunity?