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Post Post #13 (isolation #0) » Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:02 pm

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Vote: Kyle99

Only lynch I would support from the get-go based on policy. Because kyle will active-lurk the hell out of this game and then newbclaim to cover it up. I don't feel like RVSing today.
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Post Post #42 (isolation #1) » Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:25 pm

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I'm so glad I took French now. I understand most of what he's saying :P
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Post Post #72 (isolation #2) » Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:25 pm

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kyle99 wrote:Hey, for all you guys who are using firefox, I recommend using this:
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You just select text and it will translate it for you.
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Post Post #104 (isolation #3) » Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:52 am

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Meh, figures policy lynching gets me votes. Whatever.
@ Nul: Why would you even consider voting No Lynch?
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@ Fishy: Are you also a miller like SSK and tubby claim to be?
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Post Post #116 (isolation #4) » Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:31 am

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wolframnhart wrote:If it is not a random vote, why are you voting him?
This.
I would also like to know why you're voting without any reason behind your vote and then claiming it's not random.
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Post Post #130 (isolation #5) » Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:23 pm

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Post Post #249 (isolation #6) » Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:14 pm

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Honestly, syke doesn't seem to be making any sense to me right now. You really have no reads 10 pages into the thread? I even have a few at this point and I'm usually pretty bad on those myself.
Stubbornness to actively not contribute even when called out for it is also making my scumdar go off. Syke also overreacted to a small number of votes, already worried about a hammer that is several votes away. I don't see a townie being worried about being at L-8 or so.
Eek, what makes Pom's case bad? I understand that meta cases are generally weak and would probably agree with you on that, but the case wasn't based solely on syke's scummy meta, but his actions he claims to be justified by his meta. Which is a weak defense more than anything.
Ray, what made you change your policy lynch vote from ace to DeathNote? If you want both of them policy lynched anyways, what has made you decide you want DN lynched even more than ace? (personally if I had to choose between the two I'd pick ace just because of how annoying his posts are to read because of his claimed post restriction :P)
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Post Post #292 (isolation #7) » Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:54 am

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sykedoc wrote:
Nul wrote:
vote: docpotter


for all the reasons stated before hand


i gues this is what you call jumping on a wagon
Im sorry Nul, you just wreak of
scum.
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Nul's coming off as a newb more than anything to me. Not that that means he isn't newbscum, just that his actions are more newbie mistakes than anything. He is coming off as rather scummy, especially the recent DocPotter wagon vote, I will admit.
Both Kyle only posted again once they were called out for lurking, and both posted pretty close together as well with a vote for the same person... my scumdar beeped at both of these things. But then again I know how kyle plays regardless of his alignment so this isn't too surprising of a response from him <_<
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- Overreacting to 5 votes. Really?
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Overreacting is not a scumtell. Saying someone is overreacting is a scumtell.
Then why didn't you FoS me, since I was the one calling out syke for overreacting first? (yeah you probably missed my post but still <_<)
ani, even if you're not willing to vote, I'd like to hear your current suspicions.
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Post Post #313 (isolation #8) » Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:43 am

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Starbuck wrote:
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I can gladly say that I don't have a post restriction.
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Vote: Kyle99

Only lynch I would support from the get-go based on policy. Because kyle will active-lurk the hell out of this game and then newbclaim to cover it up. I don't feel like RVSing today.
Why Kyle and not DeathNote?
This is the first game I've played with DeathNote.
SSK, what was scummy about my post?
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Post Post #315 (isolation #9) » Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:47 am

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kyle99 wrote:I'm thinking some people regard policy lynching as scummy. Either that, or he would prefer a PL of deathnote over me.
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Post Post #355 (isolation #10) » Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:57 pm

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I've done a reread and decided who my vote should be on.
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Not posting very often, little content when posting, bad reason for voting Datadanne, wagoned DocPotter. Caught my eye with his early posting and I feel this guy is scum from what I've read.
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Post Post #356 (isolation #11) » Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:00 pm

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and by that I mean
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Post Post #385 (isolation #12) » Sat Jan 30, 2010 2:44 pm

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Parama wrote:I've done a reread and decided who my vote should be on.
wolframnhart

Not posting very often, little content when posting, bad reason for voting Datadanne, wagoned DocPotter. Caught my eye with his early posting and I feel this guy is scum from what I've read.
I am going to have to side with Wolf on this one. He soundly voiced his opinion on Data, which I agreed with, then wagoned one of the scummiest people in the game going off reasons that were previously stated. Your vote sucks.
Why thank you. I'm glad you think that. Anyways I didn't post my full thoughts on him, just a brief summary. I also don't have the time to post full thoughts right now either. So be patient.
Anyways, I would support a DocPotter lynch. Points brought up by everybody else, and he seems to have given up, resorting to AtE in his most recent post. Wasn't sure about it when the wagon was first forming but his reactions reek of scum. Just not good at all.
unvote, Vote: DocPotter
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Post Post #395 (isolation #13) » Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:09 pm

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Amished wrote:How many games have you played, Parama?
4 games finished (2 on this site), 3 games dead (2 on this site), 4 games ongoing (3 on this site). Looking at my sig is another option for answering this question.
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Post Post #417 (isolation #14) » Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:25 am

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Oh look it's Richard. Another player on my Policy Lynch list. But I'm not policy lynching right now.
Anyways, Richard didn't overdo that silly claimed post restriction like ace did... makes me think he's faking it? At this point I can't really tell. To be honest I prefer that over ace's post by miles.
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Post Post #435 (isolation #15) » Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:43 am

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Rifka Viveka wrote: There has been a few players that gained and lost PR in this game. Nul i believe it was, replaced by amish, said he could only post 4 word sentences and amish isnt under that restriction. Im curious.
I'm not sure if Nul was the one who said that, but whoever did also added that they were joking about the PR.
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Post Post #533 (isolation #16) » Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:51 pm

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Meta-based defense is lame.
Meta-built case is also lame.
Meta-based defense to a meta-built case = contradiction. One of the two has to be wrong by definition. At this point, I don't know which.
But seeing as sykedoc caused this contradiction by forming the meta defense, his reaction is what makes me want to lynch him more than anything. He overreacted early on to having 5 votes all based on a meta case, not a townie thing to do at all.
However, DocPotter's vote on kyle doesn't make sense IMO. If Doc was scum I would think he'd find a good reason to jump on the syke wagon. But then again... syke was pretty reluctant to vote DocPotter. And he only switched after the Doc wagon lost momentum and was head towards him. I think we may have found a scumteam here. Syke's bussing his partner to save himself, whereas Doc doesn't want to vote his partner in fear of being called out for bussing. But if I look at it that way, then either decision would've gotten them called out... kinda WIFOM. But if any response would make them look scummy, that could mean they're both scum. Eh. There's some sort of logical fallacy in my argument it seems that's causing this problem. Can't be bothered to find it right now. If anyone figures out the problem I'd be glad to fix it and see what impact it has on this theory I've set up.
For now, my vote stays. If both are scum, then I don't have any reason to switch from one to the other.
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Post Post #536 (isolation #17) » Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:57 pm

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Pomegranate wrote:The case on Syke is not meta.
It's where the case started. I understand that the case on syke isn't purely meta anymore, heck, how could it be?, but the initial case started with meta arguments.
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Post Post #539 (isolation #18) » Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:10 pm

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Pomegranate wrote:The case on Syke is not meta.
It's where the case started. I understand that the case on syke isn't purely meta anymore, heck, how could it be?, but the initial case started with meta arguments.
^this

This is why I feel bringing up meta is a fair step at this point.

At this point I've exhausted my defensive options. So, unless there's a change, turning point, or question, I can't do much more right now.
Nope, using meta as a defense to a meta built case just makes you look stupid. If you read my earlier post, there is no reason to use meta to defend a meta built case, especially if you're stuck on the meta arguments while the case has moved on to reactions and scumtells. Urgh. This post is really making me want to change my vote.
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Post Post #540 (isolation #19) » Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:12 pm

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Pomegranate wrote:It started with meta, but many of the people on the wagon aren't voting based on any meta. I know I'm not. Starbuck isn't either. I don't know specifically about any other players. I think the only one still hanging onto the meta argument is DocPotter.
Yeah, I know. Syke also seems to be caught up in the meta part of his case and is ignoring why people are now voting him, his reactions to the initial case and reactions to the DP wagon.
And DP hanging on to the meta arguments means he doesn't care about current arguments, which would mean he probably finds them invalid, which makes no sense. More reason to believe in a syke-DP scumteam.
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Post Post #552 (isolation #20) » Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:38 pm

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I'm not a country, sorry.
And don't worry about kyle lurking. That's kinda why I wanted to policy lynch him. For him active lurking is a nulltell <_<
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Post Post #593 (isolation #21) » Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:38 am

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LlamaFluff wrote:Time to move wagons

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Reasoning after midterm tomorrow + massive HW load
ZOMG Llama ur liek the leeder of teh town I will follow evrything u says.
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Post Post #599 (isolation #22) » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:01 pm

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LlamaFluff wrote:
Parama wrote:Nul's coming off as a newb more than anything to me. Not that that means he isn't newbscum, just that his actions are more newbie mistakes than anything. He is coming off as rather scummy, especially the recent DocPotter wagon vote, I will admit.
Both Kyle only posted again once they were called out for lurking, and both posted pretty close together as well with a vote for the same person... my scumdar beeped at both of these things. But then again I know how kyle plays regardless of his alignment so this isn't too surprising of a response from him <_<
Some major fence sitting here. Nul is more newb, but he could be scum, but more likely newb, but is coming off scummy. I dont think ive seen someone go back and forth that many times in two sentances. Then kyle is lurking, and scummy, but it a nulltell for him (out of interest, have you seen town-kyle?). Either way, he just sets up two players that he can go and throw a vote on at will.
I said that his play is consistent with average newbie play, but that I'm not going to dismiss the possibility that he isn't scum just because of newbie play. And he comes off scummy because of the newbie-play that people find scummy. It's not going back and forth, it's presenting my read.
Yes, I have seen town-kyle. In fact, in the very first game I played, which was offsite. He got wagoned pretty close to a lynch on D1 for similar play that I've seen out of him as scum.
And I could have voted them, but I didn't, and I haven't, because I do not feel they are scum. Of course, this might change at a later date.
LlamaFluff wrote:
Parama wrote:Not posting very often [wolf], little content when posting, bad reason for voting Datadanne, wagoned DocPotter. Caught my eye with his early posting and I feel this guy is scum from what I've read.
Why him over the other lurkers in the game? Why is his data vote bad? (hint it isnt)
It was because he was active lurking, not posting much and when he did post most of the time it wasn't saying much.
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Well damn. Rereading the thread again his posts actually make a lot of sense.
I have no excuse for my vote on wolf. I misread his posts :/ Go ahead, lynch me for it. I dare you.
He's still not posting that often regardless. Whatever.
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Parama wrote:Why thank you. I'm glad you think that. Anyways I didn't post my full thoughts on him, just a brief summary. I also don't have the time to post full thoughts right now either. So be patient.
Anyways, I would support a DocPotter lynch. Points brought up by everybody else, and he seems to have given up, resorting to AtE in his most recent post. Wasn't sure about it when the wagon was first forming but his reactions reek of scum. Just not good at all.
unvote, Vote: DocPotter
. Still would like a wolf lynch but this one's just as good IMO.
lol what?

He goes from wanting wolf lynched in part due to wagoning DP to wanting DP lynched, but still wanting wolf lynched... I know he says he wasnt sure at first, but this is a sub 24-hour turnaround
And the reasons I gave on DocPotter were partly influenced by posts he had made in the last 24 hours. Got a problem with that?
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Parama wrote:However, DocPotter's vote on kyle doesn't make sense IMO. If Doc was scum I would think he'd find a good reason to jump on the syke wagon. But then again... syke was pretty reluctant to vote DocPotter. And he only switched after the Doc wagon lost momentum and was head towards him. I think we may have found a scumteam here. Syke's bussing his partner to save himself, whereas Doc doesn't want to vote his partner in fear of being called out for bussing. But if I look at it that way, then either decision would've gotten them called out... kinda WIFOM. But if any response would make them look scummy, that could mean they're both scum. Eh. There's some sort of logical fallacy in my argument it seems that's causing this problem. Can't be bothered to find it right now. If anyone figures out the problem I'd be glad to fix it and see what impact it has on this theory I've set up.
Look at all this stuff on SD-DP. He has just lined up to lynch either of them based on presented information regardless of what either of them flip. Stunning really.
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Really? No. That's a misrep. I'm saying here that they are a likely scumteam and giving my evidence. And my argument fell into WIFOM territory at the end. I would not be against lynching either of them, so I'm not going to change my vote simply to hop off one wagon I agree with onto another I agree with.
LlamaFluff wrote:
For now, my vote stays. If both are scum, then I don't have any reason to switch from one to the other.
Oh and more reasoning to shuffle back to a SD lynch
Actually, a reason why I'm not going to jump off the DP wagon yet. Like I said, I think both are scum together. It's kinda setting up lynches in advance but the logical connections I've made between them seem to hold up. I don't see why you'd want to criticize me for building an argument that I feel links them as scum. If you don't agree with it then I'm not going to care but if you call me out for using logic to try and catch scum I'm not sure you're even playing the right game here.
Hmm, I don't even remember if I ever voted syke .-. I don't think I have.
LlamaFluff wrote:Just go read everything he has been saying about SD-DP and see if you cant reach the same conclusion. Nothing has been solid, everything has allowed him to just wander around between the wagons regardless of what happens for the rest of the game.
I never make anything definite. Nothing is definite. Anyone is free to switch wagons as they please. How is it a scumtell if I'm happy with two lynches on two people I find scummy individually and potentially a scumteam as well?

I'm just going to say that your case isn't solid and is full of misrep or misreading. The only valid point is my failvote on wolf.
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Post Post #621 (isolation #23) » Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:49 am

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Amished wrote:
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Amished wrote:
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LlamaFluff wrote:this is a sub
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Plus the fact that you made this post calling out Bogre, then didn't vote him, but when Ray does vote him, you instantly jump on the wagon... were you waiting for another player's reaction before deciding whether you could get away with a Bogre wagon without looking scummy?
Though I like the expansion of your case on Bogre further down the page a lot. Like I said, meta-based attacks and defenses are both equally worthless. That's a pretty big contradiction on his part :/
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Post Post #626 (isolation #24) » Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:44 am

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wolframnhart wrote:
Nul wrote:Yepyep.
Just posting to let you guys know I'm still here, but I really don't want to post that much in case the scum kills me off at night... You know, the people who talk the most and seems to be doing the most for townie gets killed off first in such a large game as this.
Hopefully I won't die because of this comment but I will be more active as the game gets smaller that is if I'm still alive by then.

With that said... Goodluck fellow townies!

No I'm kidding. If I just disappeared again, I would most likely get replaced.
To those who suspect me, can you explain in more detail than "I think his scummy, no his a newb townie, hm I'm not sure I'll go for scummy... On second thoughts newb townie, haha I just wrote all this yet I have not explained why I even suspect him lololol".

So...in other words you aren't going to comment on events so far, but you wont "dissapear" because you don't want to be replaced, and in other words you are going to active lurk until end game so you don't get killed off at night?
I couldn't really tell if Nul was being sarcastic in the first part of his post or not. I hope he is, because otherwise that's just a stupid thing to say :/
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Post Post #678 (isolation #25) » Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:02 am

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Everyone should vote me now.
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Post Post #702 (isolation #26) » Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:26 pm

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LlamaFluff wrote:Right now though we lynch Parama
I can assure you that today will not end with a lynch of me, though if you want to wagon me for a bit go ahead and do it.
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Post Post #705 (isolation #27) » Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:10 pm

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Sorry Rich but your meta logic fails because you haven't actually seen me as scum <_<
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Post Post #707 (isolation #28) » Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:24 pm

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RichardGHP wrote:
Parama wrote:Sorry Rich but your meta logic fails because you haven't actually seen me as scum <_<
Yesh, I have.
Oh really?
RichardGHP wrote: In the two gamesh I've been in with him, he'sh been town, sho put two and two together, and you can guessh that he ish shcum.
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RichardGHP wrote:Beshides, that'sh irrelevant. My vote on you ish not meta-bashed.
Oh really?
RichardGHP wrote: Thish ish a prime ecshample of him ushing a. reverse pshycology (either a shcumtell or
meta
-bashed, leaning towarsh to former in thish cashe) and b. hish VERY aggresshive (almosht on par with DrippingGoofball)
meta
in order to shave himshelf. Thish is not the Parama I know. (
meta
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Lashtly, to note, he'sh lead mishlynchesh on townies as a townie before, who'sh to say he won't do it ash shcum thish time? (
meta
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RichardGHP wrote:I know your town meta well, but thish game ish just a new level of aggresshion and arrogance.
The arrogance is intentional, if you want to know. Don't ask.
The aggressiveness is actually less in this game than it has been in previous games I've played.
RichardGHP wrote:Alsho, way to defend yourshelf. Shaying that my logic failsh only sholidifiesh my vote. :roll:
Well um, as you can see here you're contradicting yourself quite often.

Note: Rich's vote on me came immediately after two other people placed their votes on me.
Call this an OMGUS if you want,
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Post Post #710 (isolation #29) » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:22 pm

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RichardGHP wrote:Time to reshpond point by point!

Firsht quote: I've SHEEN you ash shcum, not played with you ash shcum.
The only game where you could've possibly seen me as scum was a game I didn't even care about...
RichardGHP wrote:In you fourth quote of me: Firsht bold: I gave two exshplanashions for your reversh pshycology, it'sh either a shcumtell or meta-bashed. You highlighted 'meta' in your defensh, where I shaid that I wash leaning towardsh the former. Learn to read, shcum.
Yes, I did see this, but you said it could still be meta.
RichardGHP wrote:Shecond bold: PART of my reashoning, not my only reashoning.
Doesn't mean anything.
RichardGHP wrote:Third bold: Shee above
Same to you.
RichardGHP wrote:Fourth bold: Exshplain to me how that is meta-related in the shlightesht.
It's referencing past games.
RichardGHP wrote:Fifth quote: Ish your arrogansh a PR? Becaushe even for you, your arrogance ish atricioush in this game.
No, I don't have a PR. And I'm not answering this.
RichardGHP wrote:Shixth quote: Even if I wash, it's neither a shcumtell nor an aid to you in your defensh.
So you admit it? Contradicting yourself really is pretty scummy you know.
RichardGHP wrote:Your note: Irrelevant. If you're going by the "Third on the wagon ish shcum" rule, you're not playing for the town, shince the rule ish innaccurate and there are countlessh exsheptionsh to it. If you meant that I wash bandwagoning, I don't care. It'sh a nulltell anyway.
It makes your vote come of as opportunistic bandwagoning. I don't mind the reasoning of the two before you but your reasoning fails on several levels, as I have already pointed out.
RichardGHP wrote:Lashtly: If OMGUSh wash your intention, you would've voted me. Otherwishe, I undershtand why you FoShed me, but it doeshn't really bother me.
I left the OMGUS note because otherwise people would have called that vote out as OMGUS to try to make me look scummier. Yes, I do know how scum typically play.

Also...
RichardGHP wrote:All I ashk ish that you don't do anything like thish again:
Panama in Mafia 107, ISO 27 wrote:
RichardGHP wrote:He asked me where my comment came from, and I told him. I see no problem with that.

By the way, your post suggests that you could be a mafia-aligned PR, because you demand I stop "speculating". For all I know you could be a scum PR trying not to slip.

FoS: Parama
Okay, sorry, but I've had enough of your save-your-own-butt-ignore-the-greater-good-of-the-town play. Add this to the scum slip, PLUS the earlier reaction to your wagon, AND the roleclaim that I don't believe, and we get...
Input >>> syobitggott play + scumslip + reaction + roleclaim = ?
*calculating in progress*
*calculation finished
Output >>>
Unvote, vote: RichardGHP.
Firsht, and I know that thish ishn't that game, but thish is for othersh' reference:

My posht was in no way save-my-own-butt-ingore-the-greater-good-of-the-town, I wash shimply making an obshervation.
StrangerCoug wrote: [*]Discussing an ongoing game gets you a warning the first time and a modkill the second time.
Just FYI.
RichardGHP wrote:It'sh thish kind of mishinterpretation that makes people dishlike you and your fail aggresshive meta. Then you follow up with trying to look shmart whilsht mocking me with your equation/calculation. REALLY pro-town.
Needs more ad hom and more referencing an ongoing game.
RichardGHP wrote:In the shame game, he led a mishlynch on a Vanilla Townie ON DAY 1, and attempted to mishlynch another VT Day 2, IIRC. It shocked me when he actually flipped town. Even if he'sh town in thish game, we should polishy lynch him. That way, besht cashe shenario - we hit shcum. Worsht case shenario - we hit a town PR, but one who would've led at leasht one mishlynch. If we hit VT, that'sh fine, shince losing one VT to a mishlynch on our part ish better than losing ~2 to a mishlynch on hish part.
Stop referencing ongoing games. People called you out for this in the same game you're referencing right now. It's a violation of game rules.
Also, sorry that townies don't know who is scum and have to use logic to try to figure out who IS in fact scum without anything else to go on - sorry I'm not omniscient like you obviously are.
Anyways, you're sounding like you're reaching for excuses to vote me - your policy lynch theorem fails because I DO scumhunt and contribute as much as I feel necessary, though my reads are not always correct. You policy lynch people who play terribly in general, like active-lurkers and trolls. Plus it's a little late to be policy lynching (though I realize that you did replace in.)
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Post Post #731 (isolation #30) » Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:38 am

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[quote="dramonic"]I'm not going to go read all the newbie games and the integral woodstock mafia.
Newbie 867 IIRC.
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Post Post #771 (isolation #31) » Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:19 am

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Kk, this is about the time i should be responding methinks.
DeathNote wrote:I don't want to lynch Prama. Not because I think he is town, but I think other people are more likely scum. Not to mention, people who say "Fine then lynch me" don't tend to encourage my vote on day 1 or 2.
Which people?

I am really REALLY not liking Amsihed's 738 here. You didn't explain what was bad about my defense, just said it was bad.
And after calling out both me and Rich your vote remains on Bogre.
RayFrost wrote:She (fishy the fish) needs to vote parama with us.
Just FYI, you're not voting for me at the moment <_<
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My vote on Bogre isn't doing jack all (if somebody wants to find/kill scum and doesn't have a better option.. *hint hint*) After an ISO I can see a parama lynch better than before. I see a fair amount of nervous newer scumtells from him so here we go. I haven't paid as much attention to DP/Syke lately; and with the town's momentum the way it is I think this is the best place to find scum and get a lynch out of it.
What are those scumtells, and again why have you failed to say what you find scummy about me without providing evidence?
This just seems like wagoning to me.

Anyways, going out on a limb here and saying that I feel Llama is scum. None of his posts since he responded to my response to his case have actually given reasons why people should be voting me though I have posted plenty since then - he's urging everyone to vote and not providing the reasons himself. He's also been leading the town in circles - starting one wagon, asking others' opinions, then lying low until the next opportunity to form a wagon arises. So call it OMGUS if you want,
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I would like everyone voting me to summarize their case, restating the crucial points along with evidence for them. Because I feel the wagon on me is very weak, to be honest.
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Post Post #777 (isolation #32) » Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:07 pm

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LlamaFluff wrote:...not provided reasoning? Really?

I know I can be persuasive at times but there has to be something there if people are wagoning you. Since when is changing a suspicion a scumtell too?
You provided reason initially, but since then have not commented on anything I've posted, instead just constantly urging people to vote me.
Changing suspicion isn't a scumtell. I never said it was.
The problem is, 1. everyone seems to follow what you say in this game, so 2. you're switching suspicions often and ending up confusing the town and leading them in circles.
I honestly don't like how so many people seem to follow your every move this game, regardless of how good the case is or not.
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Post Post #813 (isolation #33) » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:50 am

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LlamaFluff wrote:Claim time
I'm a goddamn cop, k?
If you want the flavor specifics I'll be more than glad to give them.
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Post Post #817 (isolation #34) » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:44 am

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Flavor specifics incoming.
I am an Anti-Greek-Mafia cop. So if there's any other potential mafia factions, I can't find them, just this one faction.
Which implies there is a second faction at the very least.
If you still want to lynch me, go ahead, this game has been a disaster anyways.
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Post Post #828 (isolation #35) » Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:39 am

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Some days I wonder why people even ask for claims anymore. Because they rarely if ever change people's minds.
I'm what I claim to be. It's your choice to believe me or not, but it's to the town's advantage to believe my claim. Since I'm, y'know, a cop and all.
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Post Post #837 (isolation #36) » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:44 pm

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LlamaFluff wrote:Claim full flavor. I highly doubt your role just says "Greek Cop" and thats it. Do you get guilty/innocent? Greek/not greek? Are you checking to see if a player is of greek decent or is greek mafia?
I claimed my full flavor name.
If I am sane, I get guilty on the Greek Mafia only. I do not know if I am sane or not.
RayFrost wrote: waiting for parama flavor claim before deciding on that.
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Post Post #843 (isolation #37) » Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:52 am

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LlamaFluff wrote:Flavor is more of the "why" behind your role, not the role itself.
The greek mafia have invaded, I know how they operate, I can find them.
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Post Post #938 (isolation #38) » Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:48 am

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animorpherv1 wrote:I've said this before, someone PLEASE explain the wagons to me.
sykedoc's wagon is based on his reactions to the initial meta case against him (a case which failed miserably IMO.)
DocPotter's initial wagon was based on Doc's bad reason for joining the syke wagon, which was at the time based solely on the meta argument. This is also the wagon I am staying on because nothing has changed my mind. I mentioned earlier about the possibility of a sykedoc/DocPotter scumteam, and I think that's where people started calling me scum.
Guess what. I stand by what I said. If you find it scummy, then you're reading it wrong.
Though now I would prefer a DocPotter lynch over sykedoc's if it matters.
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Post Post #1005 (isolation #39) » Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:07 am

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Riceballtail wrote:
Yeah, I think he's town
Suddenly, the sound of 6 billion facepalms was heard across the globe and the sound resonated throughout the entire universe.
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Post Post #1006 (isolation #40) » Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:07 am

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EBWOP tag fail
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Post Post #1136 (isolation #41) » Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:26 am

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Wow, I miss lots when I'm sleeping it seems.
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Post Post #1205 (isolation #42) » Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:29 am

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CSL wrote:Hmmmm. Seems to me ani's claim looks sketchy. Of course, Stranger is the mod, so I'd believe everything for now.

However, I'm going to ISO ani in a bit.
What will that accomplish?
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Post Post #1207 (isolation #43) » Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:40 am

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Mmk. No defense?
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Post Post #1222 (isolation #44) » Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:50 pm

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Care to explain your vote?
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Post Post #1224 (isolation #45) » Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:51 pm

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Inno on DocPotter
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Post Post #1228 (isolation #46) » Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:53 pm

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RichardGHP wrote:Bah.
I've never seen a "Bah" post from somebody replacing out before.
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Post Post #1233 (isolation #47) » Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:09 pm

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DocPotter wrote:
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FYI you're not clear, you're just not Greek.
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Post Post #1252 (isolation #48) » Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:45 am

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Kairyuu wrote:@all: Given that Parama did not die last Night, it is somewhat more likely that he's scum. His "probably no one is" comment leads me to believe he might have made up the idea of a Greek mafia. Not necessarily valid to pursue right at this moment, but something to consider.
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2. Maf may want to keep me alive to see if they can get me lynched

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Post Post #1255 (isolation #49) » Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:12 am

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animorpherv1 wrote:Kairyuu makes sense, but I'd give another day at least before we lynch him/ I kill him.

And I'm not dead. Wow, scum are idiots, not to kill the dayvig.
WIFOM does not make sense.
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Post Post #1272 (isolation #50) » Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:10 pm

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If you're implying that we should look at RBT because of CSL's vote...
If you missed it, RBT is dead. Daykilled by ani.
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Post Post #1281 (isolation #51) » Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:13 pm

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I haven't really been paying attention to DeathNote. Can anybody link posts that the case is being built upon? (come to think of it I don't remember seeing very many posts by him)
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Post Post #1306 (isolation #52) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:46 am

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Kairyuu wrote:PFFFFT. DN's claim reeks. Shoot him ani.
Fake-claiming a power role is basically suicide with the dayvig. Only a total idiot would be fakeclaiming a power role now <_< I believe DN's claim.
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Post Post #1307 (isolation #53) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:49 am

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PoisonIvy wrote:I fear the lynch is misguided. I take cop claims in any shape or form. Very seriously. I vill not participate in this lynch until i see a well structured case.

If DN wanted to stay alive he could have easily claimed "greek back up cop" or "american back up cop". Instead he takes a shot in the dark? LOL. Someone explain this to me? Logic it does not make.

Parama lies.

Ivy.
It means that either the Greek or the Russian mafia doesn't actually exist.
Also your post here comes off as paranoia.
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Post Post #1326 (isolation #54) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:26 am

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I wonder if I have a back-up as well. If I do they shouldn't claim.
Anyways, I don't think we have both Russian and Greek mafia factions due to last night's flavor (implies 2 mafia factions + SK)
Anyways I think we shouldn't lynch any of these cop claims yet... wait until we know what the other faction is.
Also, I realized that this post:
Parama wrote:
Kairyuu wrote:PFFFFT. DN's claim reeks. Shoot him ani.
Fake-claiming a power role is basically suicide with the dayvig. Only a total idiot would be fakeclaiming a power role now <_< I believe DN's claim.
Just opened up >9000 WIFOM possibilities. Go me. Failing every chance I get FTW.
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Post Post #1328 (isolation #55) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:29 am

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Post Post #2481 (isolation #56) » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:41 pm

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woohoo
I personally feel that ani's role was a little overpowered but really it was almost blind luck that a VT was never hit until the very end.
I want to put an "I told you so" here on the wolframhart/zoraster slot though. But that would be rude.
With the mod's permission I'll post the Dead People QT.
Also the SpyreX/ani team was just awesome. Day 3 blew minds.
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Post Post #2482 (isolation #57) » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:42 pm

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Also the game ending on page 100 exactly only increases the amount of awesome.
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Post Post #2499 (isolation #58) » Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:13 pm

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Someone post it in the quicklynch thread, I'm too lazy.
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Post Post #2501 (isolation #59) » Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:21 pm

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StrangerCoug wrote:Dead Thread
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Post Post #2516 (isolation #60) » Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:34 pm

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Oh. Remembered something.
LlamaFluff wrote:... I really dont get you a lot of the time. Remind me to comment on this when the game is over.
You asked me to remind you ;)
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