Mini 910 - Empire Records Mafia ~Over~

[Papa Zito]

vote: RayFrost

lulz

What's with today, today?

[Papa Zito]

You have a space in your name and that's different, different makes you stand out, standing out in this case is clearly a scum gambit, why are you WIFOMing already?

I am a special snowflake. No other snowflake is just like me. See me twirl in the cold January winds. Admire my crystalline geometry.

[Papa Zito]

unvote, vote: Papa Zito

You're not special.

Philistine.

[Papa Zito]

Well! If I weren't confirmed mason buddies with Papa Zito, I'd think you were right!

Unfortunately, he and I are confirmed town.

Dammit Ray.

Back to the QT where I can berate you properly.

[Papa Zito]

Did one of our masons just claim on page 1?!

unvote, vote: RayFrost

Did you just vote our claimed mason?!

unvote: RayFrost
vote: CallMeLiam

[Papa Zito]

Ok lets say (and right now I am thinking you are right) they pulled a joke. Even if it was a joke to be voted for claiming mason is a bit odd you have to agree.

I certainly agree.

The next question that springs to mind, though, is why you aren't voting him.

[Papa Zito]

A

n

dromina. With an n. Sheesh.

[Papa Zito]

Perhaps Excedrin wants to bring Rex his lunch?

CallMeLiam just voted someone for claiming a useful townie role!

Do you think the claim was serious?
Should we lynch CallMeLiam?
Do you know where Harvard is?

[Papa Zito]

If you're going to claim mason, just come out and do it. With details. Are you both confirmed as town to each other or is it just shared night talk? What characters are you?

Let's pretend he wasn't joking for the moment. How does the information you're requesting help the town?

[Papa Zito]

Sup Reck.

The first post kind of gives off this vibe of "Oh, guys, see how I'm joking about being confirmed mason with RF? It's funny... so I have to be town!". I dunno, it's hard to explain.

Ray's claim was obv joke, especially since I know my role PM. So I went along with the gag.

The second post seems to try to twist the joking-ness around back on CML's head. Like... "Oh,

IIIII

was joking, but

you

weren't!". It may seem like a joke vote, but then a few posts later, he pushes the issue in a more serious manner. He can't have it both ways - he can't say he was joking in the first post, but then vote/push a wagon on CML for joking right back.

His post wasn't a joke. And votes are srs bsns.

On top of that, this seems very bizarre for PZ's meta. I've played a few games with him, and he seems much more aloof/out of character/not-serious right now.

Oh noes?

Andromina, I asked you three questions and you chose to answer only the joke one. Moar answers plz.

[Papa Zito]

No, it's just that your argument was

that bad

.

[Papa Zito]

Is that L-1?

I'm lazy.

@Mod: Votecount plz

[Papa Zito]

Is that L-1?

I'm lazy.

@Mod: Votecount plz

[Papa Zito]

Oops.

[Papa Zito]

lol Reck.

I'm agreeing with wolf a lot. CML: You have a post restriction y/n?

Andromina, for your reference:

CallMeLiam just voted someone for claiming a useful townie role!

Do you think the claim was serious?
Should we lynch CallMeLiam?

I need answers to these.

[Papa Zito]

<3 Reck.

Hey Nik.

Liamisobvscumguyswhyisnthelynchedyet {snipped for sanity}

Vote: CallMeLiam.

Nope. I'm more sure that Reck is scum than CML being scum, anyway.

How did Reck become more scum than obvscum CML?

[Papa Zito]

loooooooool

A Shot rings out of no where and you find...

Warren (Andromina), Mafia Goon, dead on the floor.

I mean, the irony, amirite? ^5 vig.

vote: DragonsofSummer

obv lurking scum.

[Papa Zito]

vote: DragonsofSummer

obv lurking scum.

Do you think someone who has as much mafia experience as DoS would intentionally lurk as scum?

Yup.

[Papa Zito]

Guys, guys.

This doesn't have to be so hard. Stop trying to find the hard scum when we can lynch the easy scum.

[Papa Zito]

Nice, I am being called for lurking in a game that is 7 pages long. I think that is the fastest it has ever happened.

This is your third post in those 7 pages. And this post is just about as good as the first two.

Given the statement PZ I hold that you got nothin.

Dear town,

Parse this statement very carefully.


Love,

PZ

[Papa Zito]

Thats why you have nothing, not because of what you are trying to imply.

I'm the one who has nothing? Let's review.

vote excedrin because I was right last time

Your RVS post. Worthless, like all RVS posts are.

Can you elaborate why PZ is scum?

This.

Also unvote vote CallmeLiam

And that is literally your entire contribution Day 1.

You want to pass this off as

meta

? Hell no. No, what really happened is that you hopped aboard the first viable townie wagon and just sat there, smiling until your buddy hammered.

And don't think I didn't notice the Excedrin links. When you flip scum, he's next.

[Papa Zito]

PZ, it was a 5 page, 8 real time days, day 1.

Yet others, somehow, managed to post something during those days.

The amount of actual talking that went on aside from speculations about cml and whether or not he had a post restriction, and how scummy the restriction (or lack there of) was.

Right. The actual talking, though, was done entirely by others.

I agreed with the wagon on cml and hopped on. So did a lot of other people.

Yay, the lemming defense. The difference is that others had reasons to hop on. You just... hopped on. Wee!

What is really my crime here? I'm not denying I wasn't posting as actively as I should have been probably, but at the same time I made my opinion on the main topic of discussion abundantly clear.

Your crime is that you're lurking scum. Those are my favorite kinds.

Excedrin, what's your opinion of our friend DoS here?

[Papa Zito]

EBWOP: Only about half of the people on the wagon had reasons. You are trying to say I was the only one who added nothing when I joined, and we would still be having this discussion today if I had repeated what everyone before me had said when I joined. I don't like that you are trying to force what I did into a scenario with no evidence of said scenario happening.

PPD++

You had no reasons

and

you only posted one real post the whole day.

aka lurky scum who got the townie lynch they wanted.

[Papa Zito]

DoS is neutral, it seems like you're trying to get him lynched instead of kyle99, which is really weird. Why are you distracting from kyle99? Or, maybe a better question, why do you think that DoS specifically is more or less scummy than anyone else on the CML wagon? Do you have a reason to exclude RayFrost for example?

Go back to Day 1 and read DoS again. I'll give you like 5 seconds.

Now look at today. I call him out and all he can say is basically "nu uh". He lies low, waits for his partner to build a counterwagon (y halo thar Nikanor) and once that gets going suddenly he's paying attention to the thread.

I've lynched too many lurkerscum to stop now. Moar DoS votes plz.

[Papa Zito]

PZ, are you in support of the lynch all lurkers argument?

I've come around to that thinking more and more as time goes on.

I'm glad you think now's a good time for a theory discussion.

[Papa Zito]

You said:

I believe that Kyle or Excedrin are both good lynches today, but haven't decided which is better yet.

But did you attempt to solidify your read on either of them and determine which one is the better lynch? No. Instead you waited for a wagon to form on one of them and merrily hopped aboard.

Also your #2 point, the only one which is really worth anything, was stolen from Wolf. So no points for originality.

[Papa Zito]

Papa Zito, I agree with you that DoS didn't contribute much on day 1, but neither did Kise, how do you distinguish between the two of them?

Kise is less worse.

Here, let me do this.

Scum

DragonsofSummer
Kise
kyle99
xRECKONERx
wolframnhart (ortolan)
RayFrost
Excedrin

Town

Reserving judgement on Nikanor until after DoS flip.

[Papa Zito]

Did you mention Kise before that post, PZ?

How is Kise less-worse?

I dunno. Did I?

He's less worse because I'm about 99% DoS is scum, but I'm not 100% Kise is scum.

If there's no counter AJ I'd say he's pretty much clear. There's no way AJ is scum with Warren, that doesn't make sense.

[Papa Zito]

You guys are overthinking this.

Also guess who isn't posting.

[Papa Zito]

Wow. Has there ever been a better day? 2 scum dead and no NK? lulz

If Dragon flip scum then you last scum because I INVESTGATE YOU LAST NIGHT! YU GILTY, SLIMEY!

Kise, if you really have a guilty on Nikanor, please say so, because then I'm sure it's game over. But it's kinda hard to take you seriously like this.

Anything for us today, Zito?

Yar.

Even without a guilty you look hella bad yesterday. That was a fantastically bad hammer, not to mention the kyle wagon you nurtured.

Plus you decided to start out today sussing out potential PRs. A+.

vote: Nikanor

BTW, there's something on your face. Have a napkin.

[Papa Zito]

Isn't this from Rush Hour?

Dunno, haven't seen it.

Also, me think it funny that you no pick up on Zito softclaim yes'day, but then ask him today if he have anthing.

Oh. OH. Oh. Suddenly things make sense.

Dear town: Massclaim Y/y?

[Papa Zito]

Arrite. Popcorn the next person, Kise. (psst, Nik)

BTW, Ray's not spamming up the thread, which is weird.

[Papa Zito]

It is also 2am in Japan, which might have something to do with it.

Ray does not sleep. Ray only posts.

Or I'm just jumping at shadows. You know, whichever. >_>

[Papa Zito]

Zito didn't claim yet.

I approve Reck's gay scumdar.

PRETTEH SCUMMEH

Nikanor

xRECKONERx

RayFrost
Excedrin

wolframnhart

Kise
kyle99
PZ

TOWNEE, MUTHAFUCKAAH

[Papa Zito]

And, I'm hurt that I'm that low on your list, Zitocakes.

Do more useful things then. You can't just sit there and look pretty.

[Papa Zito]

I wagoned scum. And I was not on the CML wagon. That's pretty useful, no?

Wait what? You didn't wagon scum. You hopped aboard the wagon and then attacked kyle. Lots.

Being off the CML wagon doesn't mean anything. Townies don't know who the townies are, durp.

I'm not claiming my role's name if you're not.

Reck, I'm not giving you a scumlist.

Gawd. Moar Nik votes. Let's wrap this thing up.

[Papa Zito]

You left Nikanor off, Wolf.

[Papa Zito]

Zito, I want to know exactly why you think I am scummy.

I told you why. But I'll tell you again.

1. You formed and pushed a counter-DoS wagon on Kyle.
2. You actively sought to tear down the DoS wagon.
3. Your hammered someone you apparently didn't consider scum.
4. You started today trying to figure out Kise's PR.

The reason for why I refused to give a straight scumlist is right there in the post. It's convenient that you left that out.

I find your reasons poor.

Reckoner's vote is suspicious because all he says is 'That's a goooood lynch!' He doesn't even give any explanation.
Looking at Reck's scumlist, I see that the top three there are *gasp* people who have already been called scummy by others.
That's not to mention the fact that I haven't seen much scumhunting at all from Reck this game.

These are all true. Hence Reck at the #2 spot.

[Papa Zito]

Nik, I'll answer your 292 post-claim if it proves necessary. Let's get this show on the road.

[Papa Zito]

Go Reck.

[Papa Zito]

Interesting. Rolecops aren't usually town.

Yeah, claim roles. Nik, your turn.

[Papa Zito]

*twiddles thumbs*

[Papa Zito]

Interesting. Rolecops aren't usually town.

Yeah, claim roles. Nik, your turn.

orly?

Ya rly.

I mean, you just linked me to a game where the mafia rolecop won.

Lol?

[Papa Zito]

And there were two town rolecops.

Of course that happens all the time. You've humbled me, Ray. Well done.

[Papa Zito]

Berko, Commuter. I'm awesome and I have a band. And a motorcycle that I can use to skip town and avoid NKs. Night 1 I stayed home, Night 2 I rode for the hills.

Excedrin gogogo

[Papa Zito]

I can't commute on consecutive nights.

[Papa Zito]

Nikanor, no flavor?

Good point.

[Papa Zito]

Apparently, I'm a whore that will get it on with any guy. There's a mention of some dude named Rex manning in accounting or something like that as well.

Yeah. She and Rex get it on.

He's not in accounting though. ???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szvt8iWJ0oo

No Kise, Papa no coppa.

[Papa Zito]

Is this correct?

xRECKONERx - Joe, Rolecop
Papa Zito - Berko, Commuter
kyle99 - AJ, VT
Kise - Lucas 1-shot bulletproof?
RayFrost - Gina, 3-shot Vig
wolframnhart - ?
Nikanor - Mark, VT
Excedrin - Eddie, VT

Let's make sure we have everything down before we vig someone.

[Papa Zito]

Er, yes. But wolf hasn't actually claimed that, has he?

[Papa Zito]

Arrite.

xRECKONERx - Joe, Rolecop
Papa Zito - Berko, Commuter
kyle99 - AJ, VT
Kise - Lucas 1-shot bulletproof?
RayFrost - Gina, 3-shot Vig
wolframnhart - Jane, VT
Nikanor - Mark, VT
Excedrin - Eddie, VT

Gina doesn't make sense, but we've seen it happen in thread, so.

Kise and wolf are clear yes?

But Reck isn't necessarily.

Rex Manning is probably the last bad guy.

[Papa Zito]

Also Lucas is not 1-shot BP (just regular old Kill Immune).

Kise, is this trufax?

Oh, Gina does the daily totals. Ok.

[Papa Zito]

Er, Reck. Kyle claimed Day 2. Wolf just claimed ^^^ up there.

[Papa Zito]

I'm scratching my head here. I thought for sure we'd break this thing open with a massclaim.

unvote

hmm

[Papa Zito]

Anyway...

I'm shooting excedrin.

I intended to earlier in the day, and not much has changed it, really.

Excedrin why?

[Papa Zito]

I'M MORE THAN MY ROLE.

But yeah you can vig me if you want.

[Papa Zito]

Had a thought.

What if one of our VT's is a Godfather who returns a fakeclaim if investigated?

[Papa Zito]

Lawl. I'd rather be vigged than lynched.

[Papa Zito]

He can do it every day the first three days.

Go ahead and vig me but don't forget the Godfather thing. I'm betting our last scum is in the VTs.

[Papa Zito]

That seems... plausible, though the only VT I've investigated is wolf, and the odds of me investigating the godfather randomly on D1 seems highly improbable, though I won't rule it out.

It wouldn't have to be one that you'd investigated.

[Papa Zito]

lol Ray you bastard. I hate getting lynched.

[Papa Zito]

That's true. But you're still an ass.

Also, this game is weiiiird.

[Papa Zito]

Anyway, when the town ends up with a win, you can thank me.

btw, reck claimed kise is lucas with one-shot BP, right?

kise said he is one shot BP or fully BP?

if kise is fully BP, reck fakeclaimed that shit.

I don't know. I'm still confused about Kise.

[Papa Zito]

...

Really? You picked Excedrin over this guy?

[Papa Zito]

RayFrost killed me on my birthday.

Bastard.

x_x

[Papa Zito]

Ohhai.

Had a thought.

What if one of our VT's is a Godfather who returns a fakeclaim if investigated?

People should listen to PZ moar.

Also:

That seems... plausible, though the only VT I've investigated is wolf, and the odds of me investigating the godfather randomly on D1 seems highly improbable, though I won't rule it out.

For maximum lulz.

Well done wolfman.

[Papa Zito]

PZ, I know she was only alive for a short while but how did Andromina like the game?

I spoke to her about it now that it's over.

I think "extreme frustration" pretty much sums it up.

[Papa Zito]

Eh day 1 wasn't my best, but I would like to say, my lurking d1 literally had nothing to do with me being scum. I would also like to point out that had PZ been at all flexible on what he thought I would have gotten out of it. I had numerous people on my side of the LaL argument, and had PZ wavered at all I wouldn't have been lynched, at least not for that.

I don't tend to waver much unless I have really good reason to, and you didn't really give me one.