Open 195 - Vengeful Mafia - Game Over

[semioldguy]

/confirm

[semioldguy]

Vote: Annachie

[semioldguy]

Me giving a random fabricated reason for my vote wouldn't change the fact of who I am voting for. Even at random it's a coin flip as to whether I am right or not, it is good to see reactions to a vote rather than pittering around random or nonsensical reasons for early votes. So far I like where my vote is.

Also now having only three of the five of us currently active sucks.

[semioldguy]

@mikeburnfire
Your vacation is now over but your limited access is just now beginning tomorrow? I'm confused. Also, if you are not certain you'll be here or have internet access to get here, do you think it wise to place a second vote on someone right before leaving? (yes, I am aware that my vote is there as well)

@kunkstar
Why did you feel you needed to give a random reason rather than just a vote and why that reason? I don't need a rehash of post 16; a lack of reason can generate discussion just as well as a random reason.

[semioldguy]

Would you mind sharing where this discussion came up?

[semioldguy]

The policy is not to discuss them. So don't worry about it.

[semioldguy]

I am going to throw a Ellibereth and kunkstar7 scum pairing out the window for now, it may be revisited upon by myself later if I see a sufficient reason.

I find Ellibereth as likely town.

I am currently happy with my vote where it is.

[semioldguy]

Did you initially have a scum pairing on Ellibereth and I?

No. But if I am wrong please feel free to correct me.

[semioldguy]

I've played several of these five player vengeful games, and a quickhammer on the first couple pages is highly unlikely to come from town. L-1 isn't as big of a deal here on day one as it normally is in most other games. It isn't a lylo (it's possible we lose on the first day, but only 30% of the time statistically and reads on players should lower that number)

With how few players there are it's almost impossible to avoid L-1 on several players throughout the first day.

@kunkstar7
What are your thoughts and read on Animorpherv1 and that wagon? He has been the player with the most attention this far in that respect yet you haven't touched upon the issue once. Why?

Unvote

[semioldguy]

@L-1 three times. Yes, once during the RVS, and the two I mentioned

If I really was a mafia member, do you honestly think I'd be at L-1 on each of the first three pages?

I think this is actually more likely to happen to scum than town if done by three different vote counts of players.

...but I see you have been lynched anyway.

@mikeburnfire
I'll have to think about you points against Elibereth. I didn't gather that read when going through the thread myself.

@Kunkstar7
You made no comments on animorpherv1 until I specifically posed the question to you. You skirted the issue a little more in your answer and then followed it up with absolutely nothing up until and including your hammer vote. If you thought animorpherv1 was guilty, or that the slip was scummy, why didn't you comment on that in one of your earlier posts before being called upon to hammer?

Vote: Kunkstar7

[semioldguy]

Waitasec Mike. You voted for me because of 39 and now you're saying it was protown?

I'd also like to see an explanation for this.

[semioldguy]

He really needs to come here and comment. There is very little in this game he has actually commented upon (most of which happens to revolve around a now dead goon). I think he is likely scum godfather. I have a good town read of Ellibereth and mikeburnfire is a town read for me as well.

[semioldguy]

A vengeance kill is only for the first day only. That's how all the vengeance games are that I've played in the past anyway. Since we have four players today instead of three we get two lynches instead of one (or infinite no lynches).

Also I am on my phone right now so checking the OP would take too long, but I'm pretty sure the role PM's are listed there.

[semioldguy]

@mikeburnfire
I have a really strong read on Ellibereth as town. I don't really see the points you bring up against him, could you detail the case a little more clearly?

[semioldguy]

[semioldguy]

I wasn't trusting of Elli on the last day. I just had no idea between the two of you and took a stance to see how each of you reacted to it. Unfortunately the game ended very quickly at that point.