Pick Your Power - Game. Set. Match.

[BloodCovenent]

/not voting

[BloodCovenent]

Vote: BloodCovenent

for refusing to vote.

Scum

would twist my words. I wasn't refusing to vote, i was just choosing to not vote at the time. However, In loo of Vi's case on Seacore, I think we may have scum.

Vote: Seacore

[BloodCovenent]

Also, it's "lieu", the French word for "place".

Dude, thanks! I've been wondering how to spell that, but wasn't really bothered to look it up.

also, what does IIRC mean? Now that we've taken this path.

[BloodCovenent]

I

f

I

r

ecall (or

r

emember)

c

orrectly

Thank you! You truly are a nice person.

[BloodCovenent]

Xyl, you and I seem to have a small history of this.

Everytime I have seen three people vote consecutively, there was always at least 1 scum in that "section" of votes. What is your opinion on the matter?



-Seacore, why can't you hunt in theRVS?
-What's wrong with a VT? VT's are a major contribution to the game.

[BloodCovenent]

BC, I've honestly never noticed that before. It wouldnt surprise me though.

I know the one game you and I were in, Quick and Dirty, it occurred, it also happened in my first game ever... Newbie 794... i think.. I'll try to look up links tomorrow. It's just one of those things for players to keep in mind.

[BloodCovenent]

@BC, I still think context matters here. There probably is scum on the Fishy wagon just by probability anyway.

Freudian slip? do you mean the seacore wagon?

Yeah, I liked her old one better...

I like it! *Drools*

[BloodCovenent]

Actually...

unvote vote Vi

Blah.... A little late to be bussing?

Expand your vote please?

[BloodCovenent]

@mod - Were all of the power roles that were listed taken? Are they all in the game? I want to know, because this

is

an open set up, correct?

I'm not sure where you got the idea I was going to say who got what roles but no, you do not know what roles exist in this game. Just what roles were possible.

[BloodCovenent]

Unvote

Because we moved out of jokie phase really fast.

vote seacore

Okay, I believe he was role fishing now. What serial clergyman said. You're giving scum a list of who to kill for the first few days, remembering that there's up to 4 anti town faction kills every day.

why did it take you so long to vote Seacore? most of the town started on page 1. I know you posted at least twice since that wagon, why did it take you so long to vote?

[BloodCovenent]

tl;dr more Seacore pressure plz

Vi, this has been bothering me. Why did you initiate this wagon as a pressure wagon, you of all people should know announcing it as pressure votes nullifies the pressure.

It almost feels like you wanted it to escalate then die down, like you knew nothing was going to come of it.

The Seacore wagon isn't awesome though.

Unvote:

Vote: Vi

[BloodCovenent]

Why did you initiate this wagon as a pressure wagon,

I knew there was a chance that Seacore's slip in the sign-up topic (the focus of my argument) was a false positive, but I pushed it anyway... for... pressure.
Seacore's responses (due to that pressure) look Town. With that in mind, I don't want a wagon on someone I presently believe is Town.
If Seacore had responded differently than he had I would still be pushing that wagon relentlessly.

You still ping'd my gut.

unvote:

Vote: Cobalt

[BloodCovenent]

Unvote:

Vote: Vi

Further. You unvoted Seacore to vote me.
If I was really trying to put Seacore up as the first-wagon-that-doesn't-get-lynched (presumably because he's my partner), you would be better served calling your own bluff by keeping your vote on Seacore, as presumably we would both be scum anyway.

Negative, i would have found two scum. And it would give reason to have two decent wagons for lynch, and then the decision would be up to the town on who to lynch.

[BloodCovenent]

Unvote vote blood

Why the hell are you voting for me?

[BloodCovenent]

Unvote:

Vote: Vi

Further. You unvoted Seacore to vote me.
If I was really trying to put Seacore up as the first-wagon-that-doesn't-get-lynched (presumably because he's my partner), you would be better served calling your own bluff by keeping your vote on Seacore, as presumably we would both be scum anyway.

Negative, i would have found two scum. And it would give reason to have two decent wagons for lynch, and then the decision would be up to the town on who to lynch.

Even if

(you know what this isn't worth arguing)

----

@Goofy: Why dramonic?

No I know. your move just struck me as something that was out of character for you.

[BloodCovenent]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 12

Benmage

- 1 - Cruciare - (L-11)

BloodCovenent

- 2 - StrangerCoug, chamber - (L-10)

chamber

- 1 - Benmage - (L-11)

Cobalt

- 1 - Seacore - (L-11)

devotress

- 3 - SerialClergyman, FishytheFish, Faraday - (L-9)

drippinggoofball

- 3 - Farside22, Xylthixlm, Cobalt - (L-9)

elvis_knits

- 1 - Vi - (L-11)

FishytheFish

- 1 - Dramonic - (L-11)

Seacore

- 5 - Pomegranate, elvis_knits, devotress, budja, TonyMontana - (L-7)

TonyMontana

- 2 - drippinggoofball, BloodCovenent - (L-10)

Players not voting: Plum, Vaya

Regardless of Goofy's comment about the large scum team, I don't particularly believe she's scum.
TonyMontana's vote is bad.
Xylthixlm would get my vote if he had a larger wagon than e_knits.

I can help you out there.

Unvote:
Vote: Tony Montana

[BloodCovenent]

BloodCovenant, on the other hand, is scum:

His second post is quibbling other wording rather than explaining lack of vote. He proceeds to attempt to use three people voting in a row as a scumtell - and, worse, to get others to use it as such. For me, this is fairly obviously a nonsense - why would this be indicative of alignment? He goes after Vi for admitting a pressure vote on Seacore, but after a very predictable response ("Seacore looked town"), he says "but you still ping'd my gut" and leaves well alone. That's no good for me - Vi didn't ping his gut, she did something specific and scummy.

unvote, vote: BloodCovenant

Examples from games that I can remember:

Quick and Dirty - Xyl was scum

Newbie 734 - I was scum in that game - Note, I that was my first game, and i didn't know someone else was going vote right after me.

I'm just saying fishy, it's plausible. I can't find any more examples, I know it happened in an ongoing game on my alt, but the game's not finished, so I don't know. I've seen it a few times, and for the most part there is usually scum in those types of successions. I just couldn't find any more examples off the top of my head.

As for asking Xyl, i was trying to see if he remembered Quick and Dirty. And if any other games he had played in, the same thing occurred.

[BloodCovenent]

Unvote

For the moment.

[BloodCovenent]

Vote:elvis_knits

Apparently he's scum?

[BloodCovenent]

that does it for me.

unvote

[BloodCovenent]

Okay,

unvote vote elvis_k

.

Only on page 7 in mah read thru, hope theres a case on her.

Well, this probably isn't going to get answered for a while... But why throw a vote on after being coached so easily? Nvm.

Plum is obv scum btw

*buzz*

Vaya

is obvscum.

One person's voting habits are piquing my interest... and of course I'm not going to tell you whose~

This person was Budja, who
*jumped on at the peak of the Fishy wagon (for what it's worth) and tried to say "oh there may already be scum on this three-person wagon"
*jumped on at the peak of the Seacore wagon (seventh vote) for unsatisfying reasons
*jumped on at the peak of the Goofball wagon (fourth vote) piggybacking on Cobalt's reason
*just now laid an egg on dramonic for laughable reasons
And I would like to know what changed between this post and this post re: elvis_knits.

Scum are
e_knits
Budja
Coug
Vaya

Undecided on
S.Clergyman
B.Covenant
Devotress
Xylthixlm
farside

Please shoot accordingly.

Vi, it seems like you have a better case on Budja, why were you still voting EK?

So stuff happened while I was gone.

DGB and Elvis are scumbuddies IMO. I'm not incredibly eager to join the Elvis wagon because this blatantly obvious wagonhopping scumbag (seriously why aren't we voting him like hotcakes) is on it, but the comedy here is that scum-driven wagons can still be on scum.

Unvote, Vote: elvis_knits

(L-3!)

Also, don't you think you should slow down a little? Not everyone can play at like 10 PPD y'know, sheesh!

Wow, you put a lot of effort into that. I'll answer why I was vote hoping around in a minute, but first is spreading pressure around really a scumtell?

Same question goes to all

[BloodCovenent]

yes guys let's run a wagon on BC for wagoning
genius

vote bloodcovenant

If you disagree, then why are you supporting the idea?

[BloodCovenent]

Wow, you put a lot of effort into that. I'll answer why I was vote hoping around in a minute, but first is spreading pressure around really a scumtell?

Same question goes to all

Well, how would someoned feel pressured, if he/she knows you'll switch your vote once a better wagon forms anyway?

Yea, in hindsight, that's a great answer. But in reality, they wouldn't know if i was going to take it off or not. So this type of response is null in void.

Also: Don't you think vote-hopping is a scumtell for a reason? Because it's scummy; it is in the mafia's best interest to get a lynch on town ASAP.

Yes, that would be true, But if I recall correctly, the most important wagon that I jumped on was EK's that's it.

And no, I didn't realize that vote-hoping was actually a scum tell, from what I viewed it as, was nothing more than trying to start discussion, of course I had somewhat expected to be pressured before there was a wagon + claim of someone else.

[BloodCovenent]

Consider that they're both under the "scum" header. Now consider which one had 11 votes.
I don't have preferences for which scum gets lynched, so long as scum gets lynched.

As for e_knits' claim... It should take care of itself.

---

Don't you think vote-hopping is a scumtell for a reason?

Define "vote-hopping".

---

@Goofball: And who might those scum be?

So what are you saying? we should just lynch him? Or keep him around? I didn't notice an unvote.

[BloodCovenent]

And no, I didn't realize that vote-hoping was actually a scum tell, from what I viewed it as, was nothing more than trying to start discussion, of course I had somewhat expected to be pressured before there was a wagon + claim of someone else.

Why does that matter?

what, it counting as a scum tell? or that I expected to be the first one badgered for my vote-hoping?

[BloodCovenent]

e_knits' claim gets a scummy player killed instead of lynched.
While e_knits was wagoned for some decent reasons (hint: not just "gut") and there's nothing that says the Cop must be Town, the outburst seemed Townish enough for me to not call fake.
I'm not (yet) sure where to go from here, and the vote isn't hurting anyone, so.

Well... from my point of view, it looks like you want him dead. What difference does it make whether he is lynched or killed?
-If he's scum cop, the other scum team will kill him.

[BloodCovenent]

where did everyone go..... there was a rush of unvotes, and votes on me, now everyone is gone....


Confrontation....

[BloodCovenent]

AFK - Playing madden.

[BloodCovenent]

oh come ON, NOW we support a seacore wagon?

lol.

[BloodCovenent]

I can't say no to that avatar.

unvote vote seacore

lol.

[BloodCovenent]

I'd say it is switching one's vote very often or excessively, especially to current wagons.

So, was I jumping on a lot of current wagons? IIRC, the only major one was the EK, like I said before.

[BloodCovenent]

Gotcha.

[BloodCovenent]

Well... from my point of view, it looks like you want him dead. What difference does it make whether he is lynched or killed?

One doesn't take up the Town's main weapon against scum.
What does this have to do with anything relevant?

e_knits' claim gets a scummy player killed instead of lynched.

Does the above quote refer to EK? And if so, are you presenting the theory that he

will

most likely be dead at some point in the upcoming night?

Also, what do you mean by that first line? "One doesn't take up the Town's main weapon against scum." Maybe it's just a brain fart, and it's finals week.... but... expand please.

[BloodCovenent]

Vi - what's with posting an interesting case on Budja and then not voting him, despite ripping on the other flourishing wagon?

*notices that I'm still voting e_knits*

This is what happens when people pull me away to watch Survivor.
I'll take a Budja vote.

Unvote: elvis_knits
Vote: Budja

(L-9)

Plum is obv scum btw

*buzz*

Vaya

is obvscum.

One person's voting habits are piquing my interest... and of course I'm not going to tell you whose~

This person was Budja, who
*jumped on at the peak of the Fishy wagon (for what it's worth) and tried to say "oh there may already be scum on this three-person wagon"
*jumped on at the peak of the Seacore wagon (seventh vote) for unsatisfying reasons
*jumped on at the peak of the Goofball wagon (fourth vote) piggybacking on Cobalt's reason
*just now laid an egg on dramonic for laughable reasons
And I would like to know what changed between this post and this post re: elvis_knits.

Scum are
e_knits
Budja
Coug
Vaya

Undecided on
S.Clergyman
B.Covenant
Devotress
Xylthixlm
farside

Please shoot accordingly.

Vi, it seems like you have a better case on Budja,

why were you still voting EK?

Damnit Vi!!!

what took you so long?

[BloodCovenent]

Actually, that's not entirely true. I wasn't sure where to go (Budja being one direction) at the time of my first post after e_knits claimed, so I decided to procrastinate and come back later. Then I left and forgot all about it :\

So aside from my short-term memory, who or what is scum?

Survivor... for 4 hours!!!

[BloodCovenent]

Actually, that's not entirely true. I wasn't sure where to go (Budja being one direction) at the time of my first post after e_knits claimed, so I decided to procrastinate and come back later. Then I left and forgot all about it :\

So aside from my short-term memory, who or what is scum?

Survivor... for 4 hours!!!

Not quite. I went out for two hours, started catching up on this site, then got called in. 'Doesn't really matter anyway.

You're not answering the obvious question.

It wasn't really obvious at first.

I'm suspicious of Budja. After all, you did put a good case against him.

Vote: Budja

[BloodCovenent]

Convenient, I know.

[BloodCovenent]

work has been taking most of my time, working on a post right now.

[BloodCovenent]

So, lots of people were saying Seacore was town. So I reread him, and they turn out to be right.

unvote, vote: BloodCovenant

I don't like this type of post, anyone could say that someone looked town after a few players announced it later. Does that automatically make it right?

-I like plum.

Cobalt, is only voting twice a scumtell?

Cruciare, What is bad about strange coug? I haven't seen him much in the game, but that didn't make him scum in my books. Why does he deserved to be lynched?

On who is scum: I'm finding the Xyl/DBG interaction very difficult to get a handle on. I've got no clear read on either atm. I like my BC vote, because he is scum. I have no objections to a Budja wagon either.

Wait, why am i scum? The suggestion to Xyl about the three consecutive votes?

Benmage doesn't look good with his explanation of how he went about elvis_knits...

qft

I agree with all who say Benmage's answer sucks and Devotress's unvote sucks.

I dislike Cobalt's vote for Deathnote. Any reason for that vote at all?

unvote, vote BC

, noone else seems that interested in voting dram.

So budja, you think those answers suck. So what does that mean? Are they answers from bad-town or bad-scum? What are you reads on both of those players? And then answer why you decided to vote me in that post.

[BloodCovenent]

So wait... did Coug put up a case on Dramonic based on dramonic voting EK, and then Coug said he couldn't find a case on dramonic?

Unvote:
Vote: StrangeCoug

[BloodCovenent]

Yes however my case on dramonic is crap. It's debatable of course, but I disagree. My case was 'alright.'

MOAR VOATZ

i wasn't referring to you.

Also, more BC votes <3

<3

[BloodCovenent]

Vi, do you think you could explain a little more how that whole list is set up/ scored?

I don't really understand it that well, and i hope i'm not the only one.

[BloodCovenent]

EBWOP: Is 22 the place I was in in the cumulative wagons? and number 7 was how many wagons I was on?

[BloodCovenent]

Ok, sorry guys, I've been super busy with the holidays and actually getting some work hours. Tomorrow afternoon I am free. I will work on updating all 5 of my games so that means it might take a little while getting to this one, but i will try to have updates on all of them by tomorrow. if I don't, please bare with me. i have off work on monday, so monday morning i

will

have updates. So, while waiting, please enjoy this cool song.

-Love BC.

[BloodCovenent]

Vaya has only posted once all game, is that the norm for him to lurk this much?

In one game I'm aware of Vaya posted only once or twice and needed to be replaced. Vaya was scum.

p.s. That's a horrible way to meta people.

fos

[BloodCovenent]

Vote BC

Cool... anything else?

I am reluctant to admit that elvis still being alive is not good.

I love you elvis but that sure ain't looking good combined with your complete and absolute lack of scumhunting.

Not really. I wasn't too surprised. i know it's all wifom, but what if scum specifically didn't want to kill him. Either that, or ya, he's a scum cop.

tried to vig devotress. I was either blocked or devo was bussed.

Don't forget bulletproof.

Devotress, being 22nd in the draft order, Bulletproof.

Hahahahahhahahahh hahahhah aha hahahhah

DIE SCUM DIE

Plum/haylen, being 21st in the draft order, Empowerer.

<insert laugh here>

^ this. Didn't randomization tests suggest that low draft picks could indeed receive power roles? Was it you Xyl that suggested that in the sign up thread?

Yeah.. maybe dev did. At 20

Wow, that really made me laugh. hard.

Yeah.. maybe dev did. At 20

No. Dev didn't.

Why do you suggest that?
*Facepalm* I see it now, DGB is scum.

Vaya has only posted once all game, is that the norm for him to lurk this much?

In one game I'm aware of Vaya posted only once or twice and needed to be replaced. Vaya was scum.

p.s. That's a horrible way to meta people.

fos

Really.

Someone asked about Vaya lurking. I stated a fact.

That's a horrible way to meta people? I didn't even try to generalize.

Oh wait - you're probably scum.

Just because someone replaced out as scum in game 1, doesn't make them scum in game 2 when they do the same thing. It actually means nothing, and is a null if anything.

Considering the above, you had time to pay me special attention? It's weird, very weird.

Oh wait - you're scum.

you were right above my post, when scrolling up i was reading superficially, then i looked deeper into your post and knew I had to post right away.

Scum motivation to draw the bulletproof claim: they know who not to target for an NK
Town motivation to draw the bulletproof claim: ???

we know who not to lynch.

Bulletproof should certainly not claim but I'm not feeling SC-scum either.

vote BC

you just hate me, don't you?
-why am I scum? is it what DGB said?

Vote: DrippingGoofball

[BloodCovenent]

That's hypothetical anyway because they didn't even try to kill EK, Haylen's group killed Vi.

Lol, I was gonna say, how the fuck did you know that.

[BloodCovenent]

---
BC fails to convince me at all.

Budja.... what am I supposed to convince you of? You mention bulletproof and another player then vote me, that doesn't make any sense. Then you say, you're not convinced. Convinced of what? Srsly d00d. Doo someding!

Unvote:
Vote: Budja

[BloodCovenent]

I could go for a devotress lynch, although happy enough w/ BC atm as I see a connection between him and Plum.

Uh what? Where?

^

[BloodCovenent]

Vaya, you've posted twice. Your first post you said that you would support my lynch. You didn't give any reasons why you would support it, or why I was even scummy. You then post once more responding to DGB, and then vote Devotress, saying that she and I are scum and you want either of our lynches. You have still failed to show where you think I am scummy.

So let me ask, what makes me scummy? Why am I scummy?

FoS Vaya.

[BloodCovenent]

[quote="chamber"]

unvote vote devotress

[/quote

Why? I agree that Vaya has been scummy.

[BloodCovenent]

unvote vote devotress

Why? I agree that Vaya has been scummy.

Shut up scum.

......wow......

[BloodCovenent]

Also what's the matter BC, wasn't chambers case against me so clear it convinced you?

nope... don't see any case by chamber.

[BloodCovenent]

Damn there is 2 scum teams.

Yep, there are two teams of three.

[BloodCovenent]

Bloodcovenant’s 784 says that Vaya lurking when he’s lurked as scum before is null. Why? I see no reason to suppose activity (and particularly activity in comparison to other games) isn’t correlated with alignment. And odd thing to defend someone about.

could you please point out where I said that vaya was lurking in this post. that is, if that's the post you meant.

[BloodCovenent]

vote:Budja

Was down for it yesterday, down for it again.

[BloodCovenent]

Vote BloodCovenent

anything else?

[BloodCovenent]

wow good claim.

do people mind that i'm waiting to hear xyl's rebuttal? (before i hammer)

[BloodCovenent]

wait... dgb, it looks like Vaya has a low chance of being scum, but (s)he's only posted three times, does that really make her more likely to be town, considering vaya only voted twice.

how come you didn't put yourself in that outcome graph?

Seacore

- 7 - BloodCovenent,

Xylthixlm

, Pomegranate/DeathNote,

elvis_knits

,

Cobalt

, chamber,

devotress

- (L-5)
FishytheFish - 2 - Dramonic, budja - (L-10)

elvis_knits

- 1 -

Vi

- (L-11)

drippinggoofball

- 1 - Farside22 - (L-11)

devotress

- 1 - SerialClergyman - (L-11)

Cobalt

- 1 -

Seacore

- (L-11)
BloodCovenent - 1 -

StrangerCoug

- (L-11)
Players not voting: Faraday,

Plum/Haylen

, TonyMontana, Vaya

Look at this.

wait... who are you voting in this one?

[BloodCovenent]

DGB, you keep moving me up...

according to the output picture, i have just a slim chance of being red scum. Then it becomes this...

Pomegranate/DeathNote
Faraday
BloodCovenent
Dramonic
chamber
Cruciare

and now it's this.

High chance of red here:

BloodCovenent
Benmage
Faraday
TonyMontana
Dramonic

[BloodCovenent]

INPUT:

VERY HIGH likelyhood of RED
Dramonic
budja
Farside22
SerialClergyman
Seacore

NOT BLUE SCUM A - LIKE, IMPOSSIBLE
Budja
BloodCovenent


HIGH LIKELiHOOD OF RED
chamber
Benmage
Seacore
SerialClergyman
FishytheFish
Faraday
Farside22
Cobalt
Dramonic
Cruciare
BloodCovenent

MEDIUM likelihood of red
Pomegranate/DeathNote, Seacore
SerialClergyman
budja
Faraday
Dramonic
chamber
Cruciare

NEGATIVE probability of blue
Cruciare
Faraday


HIGH for red
SerialClergyman
DeathNote
Farside22
Cobalt
TonyMontana
Vaya
chamber
Benmage

ok, so here is basically what i don't get DGB. I pulled out ONLY paragraphs that dealt with red.
I do not have a very high likely hood of being red. - check
I am not blue scum - check
I have a high chance of being red scum - check
I do not have a medium chance of being red scum - check

Negative probability of blue - wouldn't I qualify?

I do not have a high chance of being red scum - che... wait... what? you just said that I did though?
Why aren't I on the medium if i'm on one of the high chances of being red scum?

[BloodCovenent]

I've personally ignored DGB's pages of data/interpretation/conclussions because

a) I'm not going to check that she's being consistent with her data (and some people have already suggested she isn't)

b) As SC has pointed out, it doesn't take into account vital information

c) It assumes everybody (particularly scum) do the best (and in the case of scum, coordinated) voting strategies.

I'm not saying not to post it, I'm not saying it may not lead you to scum, I'm saying I'm not going to use it because I don't like it and I don't feel it'll lead me to scum.

Most of this is what i was going to say DGB, but seacore beat me to it.

[BloodCovenent]

ok, so here is basically what i don't get DGB. I pulled out ONLY paragraphs that dealt with red.
I do not have a very high likely hood of being red. - check
I am not blue scum - check
I have a high chance of being red scum - check
I do not have a medium chance of being red scum - check

Negative probability of blue - wouldn't I qualify?

I do not have a high chance of being red scum - che... wait... what? you just said that I did though?
Why aren't I on the medium if i'm on one of the high chances of being red scum?

Aw, maybe this was unclear to you.

These are ADDITIVE. Not mutually exclusive/inclusive.

I lightened the shading of one of your blue squares to account for the "negative probability."

Against, thanks again for letting us know that you're scum by only worrying about yourself.

but why wasn't I on BOTH of the lists for having a HIGH chance of being red scum?

Faild scum hunting, GG goofball.

[BloodCovenent]

ok, so here is basically what i don't get DGB. I pulled out ONLY paragraphs that dealt with red.
I do not have a very high likely hood of being red. - check
I am not blue scum - check
I have a high chance of being red scum - check
I do not have a medium chance of being red scum - check

Negative probability of blue - wouldn't I qualify?

I do not have a high chance of being red scum - che... wait... what? you just said that I did though?
Why aren't I on the medium if i'm on one of the high chances of being red scum?

Aw, maybe this was unclear to you.

These are ADDITIVE. Not mutually exclusive/inclusive.

I lightened the shading of one of your blue squares to account for the "negative probability."

Against, thanks again for letting us know that you're scum by only worrying about yourself.

but why wasn't I on BOTH of the lists for having a HIGH chance of being red scum?

Faild scum hunting, GG goofball.

also, why weren't those lists the same? they had a large variety of players on one, but not the other.

[BloodCovenent]

but why wasn't I on BOTH of the lists for having a HIGH chance of being red scum?

That's because each list is derived from a specific vote count. I look at one count, and from that count, I assess, say, that certain players on that one wagon have a high prob of being red scum.

Then I look at another wagon, independent of the first one. A different list of players may have high probability of being red scum.

So if I look at 6 wagons, I'll have 6 lists. If you're on all 6 lists, it looks worse than being on, say, 3 lists.

Also, for some wagons, I realize that I can only give light probability of scum on the list, and I take that into consideration.

But why do you take one VC and use it for determining a high chance of being red scum
then another VC for a medium chance of being red scum
Then one VC for a high chance of being blue scum
that is just poor analysis.

I noticed that you had 10+ vote counts, why weren't there 10+ lists? why did you pick and choose?

how come you were not on ANY of those lists? Surely you used a VC with you on it... wait.. you would have to be there somewhere.

Glowing Red Hot Chipotle Hand of Suspicion: DGB

[BloodCovenent]

how come you were not on ANY of those lists? Surely you used a VC with you on it... wait.. you would have to be there somewhere.

I know my alignment. If you don't want to believe it, do your own analysis. I'm doing it to find scum for myself taking into consideration how I know scum to behave from my numerous stints on scum teams. I'm merely showing my calculations.

just because you did analysis, doesn't make you town, not giving analysis on yourself, IMO is scummy as well.

[BloodCovenent]

just because you did analysis, doesn't make you town, not giving analysis on yourself, IMO is scummy as well.

Pfffffft!

Doing an analysis taking our own alignment into consideration, which I've routinely done since the dawn of time, that's scummy? ...haha, again like Xyl, you are grasping at nanotube straws.

No, you should do analysis knowing your own alignment, it's like a math problem, you have to show your work to prove you know the equation.

Use the vote counts to prove your town.

[BloodCovenent]

I just told you, that's a big part of how I find scum when I replace or in end game when a lot of the scum is dead and many townies eliminated. You should consider it a privilege to get a glimpse of it.

The proof may be that I found YOU.

Do you own scumhunting.

Oh wait.

You don't need to.

Use the vote counts to prove your town.

you still didn't do this. If you're town, your information should conclude so. if not conclude you town, it should show you as unlikely to be scum.

[BloodCovenent]

I can't see the Chamber case. Not helpful but not scummy.
I still dislike BC but I've kind-of forgotten why . Going to reread and make sure I'm not mixing feelings from another game.

why don't you find out why.... oh wait, you never stated why. Ever.

well.. you guys are going to vig me, i might as well claim... right? I'm VT. I chose the tracker role, but I didn't get it. That gives you a starting point.

Vote: Chamber

[BloodCovenent]

Lol, i'm not scum.

[BloodCovenent]

Well, I'll die for the greater good. I'll vote budja once I get back to my pc. I'm just on my iPod right now.

[BloodCovenent]

Vote: Budja

^ Right? Is that where we're going?

[BloodCovenent]

I don't think you have much to worry about dying farside, i'm getting vig'd tonight

Unvote:
Vote: Budja

[BloodCovenent]

Good game guys. I feel like i did rather poor this time around though. I look forward to the next game. Possible Pre-/in?