Legacy of the Ancients Mafia (That's All, Folks!)

[DragonsofSummer]

Vote: Deathnote

because I can.

Kinda of topic-

There is a commercial out there where one person does something nice for someone else. While they do this, someone sees it and in turn, passes on the act of kindness. The process continues until if reaches back to the man/woman who started it. I can't remember what the commercial was advertising and if anyone knows it, please tell me.

Are you talking about the one for ATT or whatever where a group of people find a little girls dog for her and bring it back to her?

[DragonsofSummer]

EBWOP: Before we even get into it I am against the LaL argument, because I feel like that might come up in the near future.

[DragonsofSummer]

EBWOP: Before we even get into it I am against the LaL argument, because I feel like that might come up in the near future.

With LaL I'm guessing you mean Lynch all Lukers and not Lynch all Liars, right? Well, why are you against it? I rather go for scummy people, but lurkers are always good targets if there isn't anything specially scummy in play at the moment. With a lurker lynch, town loses an unhelpful townie at worst, and lynch scum at best. Seems good enough for me.

Yes I mean lurkers. And I am against the argument because we as a town gain very little, if any, information from lynching a lurker imo. (Note: My definition of lurker is someone who posts very little. Not someone who posts but never really says anything. I am perfectly fine with lynching those people because they do harm the town and you do gain information from their lynch)

[DragonsofSummer]

That. Is. So. Helpful.

QFT

[DragonsofSummer]

Yes I mean lurkers. And I am against the argument because we as a town gain very little, if any, information from lynching a lurker imo.

How should lurkers be dealt with then?

Replacement. There is nothing to be gained by lynching someone who is saying nothing and interacting with no one.

[DragonsofSummer]

I think it would be best if I were lynched Day 0...

Sounds good to me.

Unvote, Vote: SSK

Reck is scum BTW. Starbuck most likely is too.

unvote, vote Slicey

Nice hop onto a wagon thats gaining momentum for no reason whatsoever, and calling out two people who pointed that out. If we lynch SSK now with no other interactions between players the amount of information gained from such lynch will be minimal. We are on page 5 of a 25 player game, and I don't like the speed of this wagon (yes I realize he is nowhere near lynch yet, but it still bothers me that ssk said jump and a ton of players basically said how high?) The reason I vote slicey rather than anyone else is because he jumps on the wagon and then to look innocuous throws suspicion at two people with no reasoning behind it.

FoS:Xylthixlm

for agreeing and trying to create more suspicion with no reasoning.

[DragonsofSummer]

Somehow... I knew that was going to be your first statement when you saw my post...

[DragonsofSummer]

EBWOP: If you have legitimate reasons for why you think Reck is scum I would love to hear them, but you have given none, and not voted for him, simply because SSK said he wanted to be lynched. That is very scummy.

[DragonsofSummer]

Nothing takes priority over someone who asks to be lynched. I'll happily lynch you tomorrow.

But why? I have never seen someone who asked to be lynched do anything beneficial for the town upon their death. Do you have any reasoning beyond the fact that he said, "lynch me" that it is a good idea to lynch him?

[DragonsofSummer]

I have never seen someone who asked to be lynched do anything beneficial for the town upon their death.

Fallacy. Generally the point of "lynch me" roles isn't that lynching them does something good, but that

not

lynching them does something bad.

Do you have any reasoning beyond the fact that he said, "lynch me" that it is a good idea to lynch him?

If he is lying, we should lynch him as a liar.
If he is telling the truth, we should lynch him on his word.
MafiaSSK is not sufficiently village idiot to try to get lynched for no reason here.

1. Okay so do you have any examples of something bad happening because someone wasn't lynched?

2. That seems like fair logic, and I agree SSK isn't that random of a player.

unfos Xylthixlm

[DragonsofSummer]

Ebwop:

unvote

[DragonsofSummer]

vote MafiaSSK

The role from MS3 gives me sufficient reason to believe that it isn't the worst lynch for today. But I really would like to hear more from him so we can get some read off of his player interactions.

[DragonsofSummer]

True Maemuki, but its not necessarily the same thing. SSK wants to be lynched for what he is implying are pro-town reasons on day 0, and xyl makes an excellent point. He is either lying or telling the truth and either way it is good for the town to find out, and since SSK feels that whatever his power is should be activated today why not?

[DragonsofSummer]

EBWOP: Reck its Mind Screw 3.

[DragonsofSummer]

Thats what he implied in my opinion. But going down the path of whether or not he has pro town or pro scum reasons is a wifom discussion we don't need.

Why do you feel its stupid?

[DragonsofSummer]

He is currently at L -6 I just counted so I think we still have a little bit of time before he gets lynched. I really want to hear something from him as well.

[DragonsofSummer]

Wow I missed stuff while I was at work today. I will not drop the hammer since someone else has requested the ability to do so.

@Slicey: How do you know that every outsider is protown?

[DragonsofSummer]

On an unrelated note, Happy Birthday Slicey!

[DragonsofSummer]

Thats the hammer right? Also thanks Slicey and Kai!

[DragonsofSummer]

Suffice it to say one way or the other we need someone to break the suspense!

[DragonsofSummer]

On a more useful note

Xyl

Foooooooooooooooooooooooooorsaken

I can't confirm that he is forsaken, but I can tell you he definitely isn't an ancient.

[DragonsofSummer]

vote Xylthixlm

[DragonsofSummer]

vote Animorpherv1

I really really don't like that last post by him.

[DragonsofSummer]

True, but I don't like that you are basically asking people to claim right now either.

[DragonsofSummer]

I'm a little upset he even gave out my name...

[DragonsofSummer]

EBWOP: A little clarification on the Xyl thing. I know his race isn't Ancient, I cannot comment on his faction.

[DragonsofSummer]

I'm a little upset he even gave out my name...

Explain please. I want to know why you're able to hammer and what this little "group" is. Also, I want you to explain why anyone else hammering is a bad thing, and anything else you know about DeathNote's role.

Also, the way you just said that implies that you knew of this "bad thing" that would happen. Why didn't you mention it before he claimed?

I know nothing about DN role. I am unwilling to talk about the group I think he is implying, but we do have the towns best interest at heart (as far as I know). No the way I said that shows that I don't like that he pointed out to scum that I am a part of a town group that has some sort of power.

[DragonsofSummer]

I am willing to lynch DN at this point because he has now waffled to he doesn't know what his ability does when Xyl posted 5 separate things he has said that all make it sound like he knows exactly what it does.

unvote vote DeathNote

[DragonsofSummer]

Ha Ha... i have yet to change anything. The fact still remains that if I am lynched, town suffers. To bad you didn't listen to me...

Ohh... DoS lynched me. Then I recant my previous statement.

To bad you only listen to me every now and then.

Does this sound like a "crap my gambit didn't work" post to anyone else?

[DragonsofSummer]

Okay jester.

[DragonsofSummer]

So I want to appologize to Kairyuu. I let myself get manipulated extremely easily, and you paid for it.

That said I felt like such an idiot. I should have realized that it was basically DN saying. If you lynch me DoS you will die, instead of what he was actually saying, and I didn't. I felt very well positioned to actually take over the council at some point especially after two councilors died night 0, but my rash decision got the better of me. Good job town, you guys played very well at end game.

[DragonsofSummer]

Ebwop: /pre-in for MS4