Mafia 103 - Ktown Mafia (Game Over)

[CrueKnight]

/confirm

[CrueKnight]

the game hasn't even begun.

[CrueKnight]

I am confused. Why did Haylen claim so many different things? Is she messing around?

[CrueKnight]

Ok I'm new to this forum so what is RVS?

In this spirit:
Oh hi im a iron mall cop doctor vigilante! Kthxbai.

[CrueKnight]

Random Vote: J-fox

[CrueKnight]

Well, well, well...... *hugs everybody*

Ok now what? :p

[CrueKnight]

[q]Random vote...or random WAGON????[/q]
I picked a random based on the people already posting... j-fox came to my mind.

[q]Haylen's "triple vote" of Wickedestjr does not count as a vote [/q]

Bahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaaaaaa! Haylen's Scummie!

unvote,
Vote: Furry.

/ahem joke.

[CrueKnight]

failblog.org

Random vote...or random WAGON????

I picked a random based on the people already posting... j-fox came to my mind.

Haylen's "triple vote" of Wickedestjr does not count as a vote

Bahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaaaaaa! Haylen's Scummie!

unvote,
Vote: Furry.

/ahem joke.

[CrueKnight]

Wow. You actually made up stuff there Kat. :p I was surprised, because I had no idea what the votes were.

I was going to random vote you but decided not to.

unvote

Vote: Crue Knight

He looks suspicious.

I hate Haylen's love of the RVS.

Why? It may have be of some use after all. Look at what Kat got. Of coarse I would say it's crap, but at least it's something to start with.

Damn I hate being in the spotlight in the beginning all the time.

[CrueKnight]

CrueKnight - Do you believe Haylen's claim?

I already said I was confused since she claimed like 2-3 claims. After she explained what the RVS was, then of coarse I don't believe it.

[CrueKnight]

Wicked, are you wicked IRL??? Are you really what you look in your avatar? Are you a guy?

[CrueKnight]

What is it then if it isn't bandwagoning? Torqez and Crueknight both voted the same player, in quick succession without independent reasons. The only other possible explanation I can think of, is that the votes are attributed to a 'rookie mistake' as I've seen happen in a couple games before.

TBH, I random voted. And nobody else had a reason for voting. So I did the same.

[CrueKnight]

Hey guys, sorry I'm, usually inactive during weekends.
I see we're getting a little more serious.

Unvote;
Vote: SolemnJ

Scott, ur vote is baseless. You think I'm scum b/c the tone of my answer was "bad"? You think I am an SK b/c I said I wish I was? Sigh, how am I supposed to defend myself against that?

I will like to see his response to Scott's:

I never said you were a SK. Guilty conscience?

[CrueKnight]

Hey guys, sorry I'm, usually inactive during weekends.
I see we're getting a little more serious.

Unvote;
Vote: SolemnJ

Scott, ur vote is baseless. You think I'm scum b/c the tone of my answer was "bad"? You think I am an SK b/c I said I wish I was? Sigh, how am I supposed to defend myself against that?

I will like to see his response to Scott's:

I never said you were a SK. Guilty conscience?

uhh....yes, you/he implied it at least.

Your reason for voting me is bull, I repeat. /maintains vote.

I'm just voting for pressure. I do not have any intentions to lynch you.
So can you quote it? We can then look from there.

[CrueKnight]

Wow. LOL. HoS: CrueKnight This is funny.

What? Why the hell are we voting for anyways?
It's really just a squeeze until you get what you want out of the person.
I don't see what's so funny about that. You don't lynch people this early on. Amirite>?

[CrueKnight]

hello everyone, can someone tell me a good place to start reading? i dont want to go through useless jabber

your screwed...

the hell did i do wrong now?

Late to the party are you?

Well, there's a bunch of tiny bits here and there. Nothing serious... So I couldn't recommend you anything. Unless you followed closely though, then you could make your judgments and so on...

[CrueKnight]

I think telling him he is being pressured won't do any harm or dilute the effects.

I still think he should explain why he misquoted.

[CrueKnight]

I think the point is, if you're going to pressure
1) Why say it, thereby giving it away
2) Showing your intention to not lynch, thereby releasing the pressure.


Whats the point of the strat, if you just give away your objectives in the first place. He'd feel no pressure with an empty vote like that imo.

If you looked at the context, all I wanted was for him to explain the situation.
As for why I told him is because he asked. :p But still, it won't stop him from explaining. Well, maybe I shouldn't have told that to him. But it wasn't my goal anyways to sneak up and ambush him.

[CrueKnight]

1: So that was the only reason? Because in Post 173, you say it was just a pressure vote. Why all the flip-flopping?

2: No he didn't. He said;

SolemnJ wrote:
Your reason for voting me is bull, I repeat. /maintains vote.

And then you claimed it was a pressure vote in response to this. Also, even though SolemnJ didn't ask for reasons for you voting him, whenever a person does, don't say "it was a pressure vote." You explain why you have that suspicion.
[/quote]
Ok, let me put it simply:
He said my reason was bull, avoiding my demand to explain why he misquoted... or falsely claimed something.
I repeated, I wanted him to explain. After seeing his previous response, it sounded if he thought I was going to lynch him or something. At least that's how I looked at it since he said his vote on me remains.
I thought it was harmless, and friendly to tell him the reason for my vote.

But my ONE AND ONLY PURPOSE out of this whole thing was to get him to explain some stuff and not just call it a bullshit argument.

[CrueKnight]

please excuse my dear bbcode mess up.

[CrueKnight]

unvote Vote: CrueKnight

You really got angry about having 2 votes on you

ORLY? I wasn't angry at all.

I will if you promise to preview your posts. Deal?

K. Deal.
Btw, all Wicked's questions I believe I answered. Maybe I did make a mistake in letting him know I was pressuring him... why are you guys making a big deal out of this? So he knows now! OOoooo..... weregonnadie!
This doesn't make me scummy.

I agree with Wicked, VistaSoldier's point wasn't really pointful. I got some guys asking me to explain myself, so what are you going to do?

So I got what, 5 votes on me...?

So let me ask you guys,

do you want me to claim or to LYNCH me?

NO YOU'RE PRESSURING ME AREN'T YOU!!!

[CrueKnight]

CK, what was the purpose of asking those questions earlier?

I was being a ridiculous fool. :p Just joking around.

[CrueKnight]

I think I have. :/

BTW, I'm going to be a bit inactive over the weekends.

[CrueKnight]

Alright I'm back... went Turkey hunting on Saturday. No luck. :/

Let me read this thread...

[CrueKnight]

You dont pressure vote people you dont want lynched. You never vote people you dont want lynched. Pressure votes are more for medium suspects who you wouldnt be against a lynch of, but you like other lynches more.

Or a no lynch. I would vote someone just to get results... if satisfactory I would unvote.

Oh, and one more thing that I didn't catch before. SolemnJ asked CrueKnight if he had forgotten the reasons for voting and CrueKnight said he thinks he did. So CrueKnight, why are you still voting SolemnJ?

Right.

unvote

[CrueKnight]

CrueKnight - My earlier case.

Which was:
-I defended myself
-I told someone that I am pressuring them

How does this make sense?

[CrueKnight]

CrueKnight - My earlier case.

Which was:
-I defended myself
-I told someone that I am pressuring them

How does this make sense?

That was not my whole case. Please respond to the below:

He said my reason was bull, avoiding my demand to explain why he misquoted... or falsely claimed something.
I repeated, I wanted him to explain. After seeing his previous response, it sounded if he thought I was going to lynch him or something. At least that's how I looked at it since he said his vote on me remains.

Which post seemed he thought you were going to lynch him? What made you draw that conclusion from that post?

Also, what is wrong with him thinking you want him lynched?

But my ONE AND ONLY PURPOSE out of this whole thing was to get him to explain some stuff and not just call it a bullshit argument.

Then why did you say it was just a pressure vote?

Damn I hate being in the spotlight in the beginning all the time.

One person FoSes him, and he feels like he's "in the spotlight." I see no reason for a person to hate being in the spotlight anyway.

I still think he should explain why he misquoted.

Where did he misquote?

Note that these points I have also covered.
The argument isn't on SolemnJ anymore. It isn't about me accusing him. It's about the results. I don't want to go back and point out the details but by this time, I have forgotten what SolemnJ said that got me suspicious.

As for me being in the spotlight, there were 2 if not 3 guys Fingering at me while we were in the Joker Mode.

[CrueKnight]

you're avoiding it, CrueKnight.
You wouldnt have made that vote without at least a slight reason.
You can't just forget why you do things. You need to take responsibility.
Where did I apparently misquote?

I gave a reason. I'll say it for the last time: (Valid or not valid, this was my reason back then)
-Someone (i forgot who) said SolemnJ accused someone of something. I said I agree to this and I wanted to hear SolemnJ's response.
-SolemnJ said my argument was bull. And that is no reason to vote him.
-I say I wasn't planning to lynch him so just explain.
---*Everybody gets all over me at this point because I revealed that I was pressuring and not lynching so ZOMGIE were all gonna die and now CrueKnight is a scummie ZOMGZOMGZOMG!

I am going to leave it at that because I feel like we're going in circles.

CrueKnight:

Why did you unvote someone midway through the RVS and vote yourself? Why do you hate being in the spotlight at the beginning?

1. I thought RVSs was the joking stage, so I was messing around. A vote doesn't count unless there is a reason for it. And I didn't have a reason. (For who vote without a reason should get FoSs on them)
2. Because out of experience, it usually gets me killed early on the game. I either get killed by a scummie that is claiming a Vig or something and excuses himself because I looked scummie. Or I claim something important and and of coarse die because the mafia wishes to rid of me.

Low profile games usually keep me alive... well, I only won one mafia game in like 12 games so far so I guess I'm a natural scummie player. :p

[CrueKnight]

This entire post is gross. You don't even bother to look back and see why you placed a vote on SolemnJ. You wanted an answer to my question. He told me that I called him a SK, when I did no such thing. So I mentioned that he could have a guilty conscience. This was 7 pages ago. Not exactly a long time ago. Laziness is a scum tell.

Ah there you go. That's the story.
The reason I'm not going back to scum hunt is because the first several pages are messy full of jokes and non-sense. That is why I didn't pursue SolemnJ any further as you couldn't really tell if someone was really scummie unless you

pressured

them.
If I dogmatically looked at voting habits and scummie wordings, I'd say Haylen is definite scumball. But everybody knows that most of the guys were not even serious back then and could only pick on a few things in the air. (like Scott did and I backed him up)
7 pages is a lot to me, btw to put on top of that.

Also I don't like how you put your own survival in front of the town's. If you are town, you win when the town wins. Even if you do not survive. Keeping a low profile or being anti-town purposely in order to stay alive is a terribad strategy

What do you mean putting my survival in front of the town's? I'm not putting the town at any risk that I know of.... except for me myself getting lynched which I don't think is a good idea.

And this is what being in the spotlight gets me.

I would go back if I knew it was proper evidence for the town, but I know I would be digging mud. How would SolemnJ know that Scott was a SK? He wouldn't know.
It's all guesswork and only time and lynches would give out real reliable info.
The RVS could "real" or not "real". But let's get the facts straight. (Almost) everybody threw votes around everywhere. It was a joke.
It was the very nature from the start. And if you go back to my first few posts, you know I was confused of the chaos. After a bit I chimed in.
So don't point at me and say I did the town harm for voting myself or SolemnJ for little or no evidence.

Hm...it was more of the WAY he voted for me, not THAT he voted for me. So no.

I voted for you in support of Scott's accusation.

[CrueKnight]

Sorry, busy weekend like most.

Unvote Vote: CrueKnight

He looks to be the biggest bandwagon that I actually prefer, and we only have three days. I'm going to start catching up now.

Why do you pick wagons?

If you noticed in the beginning, like in the RVS, Wicked was asking a ridiculous amount of questions. Most were not even relevant. Most were "why this why that" kind of questions. Like Sir Chris, he could be scum being overly town because he surely is over doing it.
Not really a valid scummy argument, but something to throw out there.

But I really don't like the fact that he is hopping on wagons.
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[CrueKnight]

Sir Chris: Why are you opposed to a Haylen lynch? She is clearly the best pick. And no, we don't have a ton of time here.

Clearly? Enlighten me if you will, but no-one as I know of is anywhere near a best pick.

One wagon is much stronger than the other.

Also this. Picking wagons again. Although I see nothing that DeathNote said (besides possible lurking) that would contribute to scum wagoning.
(I do love how you work for the pope and all. :p)

[CrueKnight]

IIOA is information instead of analysis.

Using meta as a defense only works when others have attacked you using your meta or if it's really easily provable (e.g. you always vote self in RVS). Otherwise, it does nothing for me.

I'm not interested in punishing you for your absence. I'm interested in lynching the scum. Which is you.

As for your "gut" that's not remotely helpful to the town, and it's a way to try and escape responsibility for your own actions.

So I say again, Haylen: Confess your sins.

To everyone else: more votes on Haylen.

You know who is scum but you cannot prove it. What are the procedures for inquisition?
Investigation, trial, torture, and punishment.

So far have failed to do the first.

[CrueKnight]

Crueknight has only spammed
and defended himself. And was kinda dumb about it, too.
His voting pattern consists of his random vote, and then his self vote.

He fits my mold of scum/badtown.

-Spamming (which almost everyone was doing)
-Defending himself "dumbly" (what exactly is 'dumbly' and why is it a tell?)
-Random/selfvote (why is this a tell?)

SJ is already saying that he could easily be newb town though, still keeping the groundwork for a jump if its needed.

This is misrepresenting SolemnJ. You are starting to look scummier. Also, the SolemnJ case isn't good.

Let me ask you, why? Why is this misrepresenting SolemnJ? What do you think of SolemnJ? And why are you defending him so?

His points were very valid tbh.

[CrueKnight]

Why do you pick wagons?

If I continue to vote for foilist, what good will that do?

If you have valid points against him, reveal it and we may all agree upon it.
Now you are acting pretty scummy.

[CrueKnight]

Hmm... now we're getting somewhere. I really don't believe Hayden's claim either.

But I say we choose someone for her to kill. That way it gives her less room to make excuses.

And Inquisition, I understand your point about Hayden now.

[CrueKnight]

If i were to kill anyone tonight, it would be either CrueKnight, Cruety or WKD.

Fuck off. My name isn't Hayden. Carry on calling me that and i'll policy kill you tonight.

Sorry, typo. Except the [d] is a bit far from the [l] so I dont know how I did that... but I meant Haylen.

As for killing me, I prefer if you don't. Reasons I will explain later... aside from the obvious reason that I'm townie.

I will also like to hear why the other two?

It's time we hear from you. At least give a lite version of your article.

[CrueKnight]

I should be able to post something substantial later today once I get back to PA. One thing that makes me curious is why is furry so strongly defending ck as if he knows he's town... this was going on yesterday as well. I can understand saying that there isn't enough evidence to support ck being scum, but I certainly wouldn't call him town enough to avidly defend against his lynch. This sorta reeks of hypo-scum furry wanting to get town cred for trying to prevent a townie mislynch.

vote: furry

Goodposting.

I also agree with this. Furry is hugging me a little too tightly.

While I agree with Furry that the arguments against me are not strong at all, I disagree that I played perfect and am definite town.
And according to my role, there is nothing in it that hints at another townie knowing my role either.

This makes me question Furry's alignment....

[CrueKnight]

Back... sorry. I'm usually busy on weekends.

.... as was this weekend...

*Reading through last 2 pages*

[CrueKnight]

I find it interesting that the only people who would seem to want Scott brosius dead are CrueKnight and Furry. Scott Brosius only posted a couple of times. So actually...

unvote
vote:CrueKnight

Wrong. I don't have any intention to lynch Scott. The guys in my suspicion list are Furry himself, and I also agree with bits in the Wicked area.

I have no solid evidence against Furry, but I think Wicked is pretty obvious. I can elaborate when I have the time.

[CrueKnight]

Bussing a scumpal?

vote CrueKnight

What are you talking about? And it that reason alone you are voting for me? Please elaborate on that.

[CrueKnight]

I might be less active in the next several days...

[CrueKnight]

Bussing a scumpal?

vote CrueKnight

What are you talking about? And it that reason alone you are voting for me? Please elaborate on that.

I've been attacking you for a while.

Your post about your suspicions against Furry about him "being on the top of your list" for "no particular reason" really interested me.

Not no particular reason... he is defending me a bit too closely. He "knows" I'm townie because of "gut feeling". I feel a bit itchy about this.

[CrueKnight]

As for Wicked, he has several things that stick out:
1. As everyone says... (and we should stop asking him why) ... he hopped on a bandwagon that he didn't entirely support. We do know why however as he explains it was a result of a deadline which forced him to hop on a bandwagon so we can lynch someone. I have to disagree with this however. If you have legit information and true evidence that someone who is on the top of your suspect list, you should always pursue it unless the bandwagon also had someone on your list.

2. He seems to be asking too many nonsensical questions that don't go anywhere. He needs to do the digging himself instead of overusing the word "why".

Here are some responses I don't like:

1: So you decided against scumhunting until the end and instead just pitched your tent and hoped for the best? 2: This is pro-town how?

1: Yes.

2: I'm not saying it is or isn't. I'm saying its not anti-town.

This is ridiculous, IMO. Stopping to pursue your suspects is anti-town activity. It may not mean scum, but it's anti-town whether you're town or not.


Re-reading through the thread I'd say wicked isn't on top of my list. There are a few I can pinch at... but Wicked is on my suspect list.

[CrueKnight]

Stop taking me out of context scum.

Oh golly, well looks like cruelty is the scummie then! Oh boy!

Conversely, given this gut town read on the most popular wagon, why did you not try to push the CK wagon over the last few days? Why did you go into shutdown mode? Limited time is not an excuse here, it's bad, bad play to apathetically let someone you suspect is town get lynched.

Exactly. The point I tried to make. Maybe... not.... scumtell, but total anti-town.

And wicked, do you actually have any proof that support your suspicions? Or are you going by gut feeling alone?

As for myself, I don't buy gut feelings.

[CrueKnight]

I have decided (somewhat abruptly) that cades is much, much more detrimental than wicked. Let me quote his entire contribution to the game.

checking in

was Vigilante a townie?

I'm still here, just watching, waiting.

post, just checking in.

If we're going to lynch for lurking/non-contribution, let's shift the kunk/mal wagon onto this guy.

Rofl! Nice observation. I find it pretty funny.

Because I have a strong town read on him. I trust my town reads much more then my scum reads, and will defend them quite aggressively when I think that they are in any peril.

Please define "strong town read". How do you know I'm town?

[CrueKnight]

Looking through the thread I noticed:

Scott Brosius was an odd kill choice btw. Not sure if it makes CrueKnight more likely to be scum, probably slightly does I think. Sure it's WIFOM but meh, doesn't mean it's entirely useless to speculate on.

Why is this? Why does it all point to me all of a sudden because Scott died?

well, it's fine with me, but I'm not switching my vote until a couple others agree. I find CrueKnight scummier, but I'm always willing to lynch for non-contribution.

Well can you give more than that? You've been awfully quiet upon this day.
The only thing you have against me is some idea that I killed Scott.

BTW, your posts in 576-580 are very weird. What is the meaning of this.

Sorry for not mentioning it earlier. I think I was too busy to catch that.

[CrueKnight]

Looking through the thread I noticed:

Scott Brosius was an odd kill choice btw. Not sure if it makes CrueKnight more likely to be scum, probably slightly does I think. Sure it's WIFOM but meh, doesn't mean it's entirely useless to speculate on.

Why is this? Why does it all point to me all of a sudden because Scott died?

Scum want to kill people who are suspicious of them, iirc he was voting you @ the end of the day.

Didn't like everybody vote for me that day? :p
If I were scum, I would kill Wicked. He has been against me probably the strongest.

Wicked also agrees that CK is probably town. But here its kind of suspicious that wicked would have a turn like that, yet his reasoning is logical. I've gotten a pretty pro-town vibe from Furry so far, yea knock it as a "gut feeling" possibly but if a pro-town seeming player defends another player as town, then I'm not going to waste my vote voting against that, when I have suspicions that the other side, namely wicked, is the scum.

I did notice this as well, when he said that, I really didn't know what to say... so he basically dropped everything he had against me and made a 360 just because I had votes on me in 20 posts?

[CrueKnight]

Not Voting (3) - cades, CrueKnight, SolemnJ

I expect 2 of you to be voting right now. why aren't you?

I'm not really sure who I want to pin. I guess Wicked would be the one planned. But if he's town, that isn't good for me. And I can't be so sure he is scummie.

As for Cades... we could get him, but is that worth a lynch for someone we don't know anything about?

I will wait til tomorrow to vote.

kunk's player slot's biggest mistake was defending wicked as I said.

I didn't really understand "kunk's player slot's"...

[CrueKnight]

@SolemnJ:

Nope, unfortunately I don't have any special role, just a vanilla townie.

Ha. Can you explain why you would RC like that???

Vote: Kunkstar

This is very suspicious to me. He may not have been acting scummy like his predecessor, but this is surely one.

You should NEVER RC unless you're forced to. If you were town, you would have just said that it wasn't your role.

SolemnJ, this didn't prove anything... he most likely re-read through mafiascp's posts and knew about the RVC.

[CrueKnight]

@SolemnJ:

Nope, unfortunately I don't have any special role, just a vanilla townie.

Ha. Can you explain why you would RC like that???

Vote: Kunkstar

This is very suspicious to me. He may not have been acting scummy like his predecessor, but this is surely one.

You should NEVER RC unless you're forced to. If you were town, you would have just said that it wasn't your role.

SolemnJ, this didn't prove anything... he most likely re-read through mafiascp's posts and knew about the RVC.

I don't like the reason for this, especially the last. What makes it unlikely that he IS vanilla? That he claimed?

For one yes, that gives him a parachute landing if he were scum. If he really is town, then it gives scum a chance to eliminate someone from their list.

I guess I could see it as a small mistake... and since the deadline is soon, I'm going to:

unvote
Vote: Wicked

I am agreeing with the arguments against him.

Wicked has been actively contributing to the thread, creating more valid info for finding scum.

He posted alot, but what did he contribute? He did ask a lot of questions of why.

So he can be an active scum.

[CrueKnight]

Hey just stopped to say Merry Christmas! I'll be on Monday.

And I am very dissapointed. No mafia yet! :/

[CrueKnight]

I believed the vanilla claim because I saw that dana had been subbed in, and I felt like believing her. I like to think I can figure out a person's role by the way they post, in the categories: Cop, Doc, Vanilla. I've already narrowed down the people I think are Cop. And Dana's story fit for being a vanilla.

What am I?

[CrueKnight]

I wish Cruelty would explain his vote.

[CrueKnight]

What exactly would be part of the "cadres case"?

So, the problem with Cadres? He was lurking.

Now, Heilograph isn't lurking.

Case solved.

Why are we acting like Cadres is still some scum of some type? He was clearly inactive, but now it's just another unknown player that needs to be tried like the all of us.

Oh and:

Happy Birthday Furry!

[CrueKnight]

Cadres was lurking I will give you credit.
Besides him being a dick by even joining the game, I must say I have provided more content than me previous person.
So besides that is there other reason u have against me?

I agree to that there is no other evidence. I think we should just watch you just like we would every other person.

We could be wrapping up alot more evidence against some other player.

[CrueKnight]

Well, that's weird. I was going to post a comment to cruelty about his voting pattern lately, but when I went to iso him for backup, it posted that tidbit.

I sort of see a bandwagon quickly forming here, just voting SJ with not too much reason, I mean basically cruelty is just hopping on to get the game sparked. Yes he has a little bit of reasoning for it but still. Unfortunately I do agree this game needs a jumpstart, mainly we need to get players back posting. Without Crue, Dana, SJ, posting its hard to build a current case on them, or to confirm if any of the cases we have now are well founded.

I agree. Remember, the mafia is almost a majority now. We have to watch for certain bandwagons.


Oh and BTW, my graphics card on my computer fried up last Friday. It'll take 2 weeks before I get it back from the manufacturer, so I'm going to be less active for the next 2 weeks.

ALSO, I'm going on vacation Jan 7-14. Sorry mates. If that seems like too long, you can replace me. Otherwise I won't mind to keep playing.

V/LA is noted.

[CrueKnight]

I'm back. Will read through and will try to post tonight.

[CrueKnight]

lol. Sir Chris is on firee! :p

And what the heck is up with posts 950 - 964?

As for the over-defensive Sir Chris, I would normally look at that as scummy. But as said before, the mafia really has nothing to lose. They're all living. They hold 3+ votes.
The mafia would normally act cool in this situation.

As for my thoughts... I'm still trying to decide between DJ and Sir Chris.
DJ because I didn't really feel comfortable with SolemnJ. (Have to re-read though)
Sir Chris because cruelty made a few pointers on him that may be valid. (post 948)

As for Heilograph, I don't think he's lynchable yet, but he's asking for it if the only thing he's going to give is a choice on a bandwagon. That goes for Yoshi-whats-hisname too.

[CrueKnight]

lol. Sir Chris is on firee! :p

And what the heck is up with posts 950 - 964?

As for the over-defensive Sir Chris, I would normally look at that as scummy. But as said before, the mafia really has nothing to lose. They're all living. They hold 3+ votes.
The mafia would normally act cool in this situation.

As for my thoughts... I'm still trying to decide between DJ and Sir Chris.
DJ because I didn't really feel comfortable with SolemnJ. (Have to re-read though)
Sir Chris because cruelty made a few pointers on him that may be valid. (post 948)

As for Heilograph, I don't think he's lynchable yet, but he's asking for it if the only thing he's going to give is a choice on a bandwagon. That goes for Yoshi-whats-hisname too.

Yes the mafia would act cool. Just like your post.

You think DJ might be scum because you feel uncomfortable with him? And what about Sir Chris's thoughts on cruelty? Or are you just siding with cruelty without regard to the other side? You don't care who gets lynched seems like to me.

Vote: crueknight

Yes, those two are the ones I'm stuck at deciding. I have cruelty in mind as well. Figuring out Sir Chris, I think would be my first step though.

Sir Chris' argument about cruelty isn't as strong an argument, I think, to take that first step.

Why those two?

Why not me? Given that someone [dj?] brought up the fact that both chris and I were on both mislynch wagons, why do you not find me suspicious?

Why do you find chris to be suspicious because of something I said? Is that the only reason? Has he said anything that set off alarm bells for you, or are you entirely basing your suspicion on things I've said?

I find most of us were on the mislynch wagons. Reading back, I find Sir Chris to be pretty townie actually.

I must admit that most of my suspicious of Sir Chris was based off your post. But while reading back, there were so many posts in the DJ-Chris debate that I just had to pick a side. That's why I want to choose between them.

After scanning back to old stuff and studying voting patterns I find solemnJ/DJ and you, cruelty, to be quite off-town. You tend to vote off the worst choice of players with little reasoning.

As for DJ, he is beginning to act like his predecessor. Lurking a bit now?

As for the Yoshi guy, besides being inactive at times, I don't see how him or his predecessors were any bit scummy.

[CrueKnight]

I suggest the wagon that actually has a good case for it, see: Kirbyoshi.

If i get it right, your lynching him because of inactivity?

Can you wrap it up in a nutshell for me please?

[CrueKnight]

Woah long damn extension. 1 week. But what the heck, I have no idea who to lynch. We don't have enough imo. But my mind is blank right now. I have so much going on irl. SO I will post more once rested. :p

I suggest the wagon that actually has a good case for it, see: Kirbyoshi.

If i get it right, your lynching him because of inactivity?

Can you wrap it up in a nutshell for me please?

Amazingly you completely missed my case. In fact when he was just an inactive I didn't want to lynch him. Also, read post 1004 for a nutshell.

I didn't really see real evidence based on that thread. I though your previous arguments were better. On Dj and what not. I don't know how the heck you base your theories on scum.

[CrueKnight]

Vote: Helio

Reading back, him and his predecessors "could" be scum. As much as anyone else. Their voting habits such as the recent one on Yoshi would probably fall into being scummy.

Anyways, better than anyone else.

I have a big feeling this is a scum catch. The votes are sorta different than the previous ones. I'm feeling good so far.

[CrueKnight]

Not much to say anyways, but my internet is terrible at home and down at work. Is it just my luck or what?

[CrueKnight]

Why in hell did Furry claim before we even decided we will mass claim?

We are so damn close to a mafia majority we better put some deep thought into our next move.


A No Lynch is extremely stupid as it will give the mafia another free kill placing them only so much closer to a majority.

If we make it a Mass Claim, what will we use to decide whether someone is scummy or not?

If we don't, well I think we are taking a 50/50 chance as all our decisions in the past has let to utter chaos.

I am in favor of a mass claim.

I am so far suspicious of Furry. Claiming so quickly AND favoring a no lynch. What does this say?

[CrueKnight]

Doc....! Doctoooor!

Good game guys.

[CrueKnight]

Haha. Good game guys.

And I had a damn feeling you were Scum Furry. Good job in trusting me as a townie.