Mini 862 ~ Mafia of Order (Game Over!)

[a cold starry night]

Suggesting massclaim. Or at least mass post-count claim. Transparency > scum strategy in a game where conversation has to be extremely concise.

Thinking along Cobalt's lines, this will be more helpful than hurtful. People wont be able to renege on their post counts. It will also help with scumhunting people who waste posts, draw people into arguments with poor logic/fallacies, etc.

Vote: VP Baltar

for reasons Locke Lamora stated. Also wagoning.

49 more posts from me.

[a cold starry night]

I was being upfront about my own wagoning, not accusing him of it. I'm saying that I dont care I'm wagoning this early. Pretty scummy abstraction.

Parroting a good reason for a vote is not invalid or a scumtell.

If you are town you have nothing to lose by claiming your post count restriction.

48 more posts.

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My biased shotgun summary.

vp baltar - jumpy, defensive, reactionary, strange pregame "gut" reaction

scotty - crimeless wagon, 1 post

fuzzy - claims 50 posts like myself, hesitant to enter fray but willing to discuss logic

goat - interesting first post, preemptive lurk alert, claimed 3 fake claims

cobalt - flip-floppy, scatter-brained, unexplained OMGUS juls, claimed fake claim, claimed 85 posts

kmd - post claims: "I don't see the benefit.", claims to have large post count

sens - against post count disclosure, claims 3 win conditions (possible red herring), tells people what to "expect" from mafia

dtmaster - claimed 65 posts, rants/votes against kmd for 5 word sentence, enabling heavy discussion

juls - preemptive lurk alert, votes cobalt based on fake claim

How is it scummy for me to misread something that wasn't very clear and I argue more likely to be taken the way I interpreted it over the way you meant it (especially considering Cobalt jumped on the same thing)? You'll have to be pretty slick to convince me of this one.

My post was mainly condemning Cobalt, whom I think is scum. I apologize. I was trying to be succinct. I shall endeavor to be more clear in the future.

starry night-do you have any original thoughts, or just "I agree" thoughts?

I would like to think I have original thoughts.

Since multiple people have put out the extra information released in their roles, e.g the "fake claims", and the "3 win conditions", I shall go out on a limb and release my "modnote" or whathaveyou. I have information that states that there are at least 2 power roles in the game - which is kind of a durrrr in a game like this. Oh well, at least the information is out there. You heard it from me.

I think its strange to say you

aren't mafia

so early in a game like this. In IRC mafia thats usually grounds for a quick lynch.

Just in case you missed that part up above, VP wants to lynch me for having a falseclaim ability and said "he didn't say he was town, just that he wasn't mafia". Town win condition only requires the mafia to die, ergo VP is not town.

Fallacy alert!

Cobalt's Premise: All townies

only

want to lynch mafia.
Cobalt's Conclusion: VP is not town because VP believes Cobalt is a third party.
Problem: There are other possible win conditions that could be detrimental to the town. This argument is given further credence by Sens semi-claim of multiple wincons.

Affirming the consequent! Juls addresses this; Cobalt just proceeds to repeat himself

*cut* ~Vi

Unvote
Vote: Cobalt

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Oh ok.

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This is where I pat you on the head and watch you get lynched in a page or two.

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people who dont know what a fallacy is

horrible facepalm-inducing logic

obvious scum behavior

attacks that are so stupid that dont even deserve a retort

are all of you this bad? i dont forsee myself enjoying this game if so. only sense im seeing is from sens, juls, dt, fuzzy, kmd

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that was me obviously forgetting about my restriction

obviously

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sorry

cant be arsed to explain myself to stupid people, gets tedious

i will interject every now and again when I can, try to point the town in the right direction, restriction permitting (44-45 or so posts left I think?) lol@"hurrr explain yourself, wait dont, you'll waste posts"

cobalt needs to be lynched. there is no excuse. baltar rolling in at a close second