Open 167 - Pie E7 Game over, quick like. before 844

[jasonT1981]

/confirm

[jasonT1981]

vote: Toro

we meet again lpl

[jasonT1981]

Original Roll String: 1d7 (STATIC)

1 7-Sided Dice: (1) = 1

Would anyone up for a quicklynch?

sure...

unvote
vote: Netlava

[jasonT1981]

wow, come back to a lot to read, I notice my vote got alot of tongues wagging, Well good... I thought most people would see the funny side of my vote

Netlava asked if anyone was up for a quick lynch so I said sure, and voted her to be ironic. Take that as you will, I knew a quick lynch would not happen in the RVS anyway...

Not to happy doing a random lynch though, I have always preferred to go by in game talk rather than random lynch, especially in such a small game where a mislynch and successful night kill will put us at Lynch or Lose.

the fact Netlava has not taken this into consideration upon suggesting a random lynch as a plan all be it even as a backup plan is quite interesting though.

[jasonT1981]

Why do you prefer shorter days?

Longer days lead to more boring games which lead to inactivity which lead to apathy = bad for town.

.

I am very uneasy with this statement, almost as if Netlava here does not want discussion and wants a short day, what possible reason would a town member have for suggesting a quick day, where information could be missed? - None

What possible reason could scum? - every

So you will take quicklynches as a back-up option yet you wish for a short day...

I think you might soon get your wish...

Unvote

Vote: Netlava

agreed and very understandable vote here.

I agree. Toro's vote seemed like an intentional misinterpretation of my points. I'm waiting to see how he arrived at that conclusion, though.

I don't actually see how it is a misinterpretation... you suggested quick lynch and random lynch, both work against the town more than they work for the town.

It was a joke intended to elicit a reaction. I made it clear afterwards that I don't actually support a quicklynch.

you call for it, yet when I vote for you joking about making a quick lynch you jump all over me? how does that sit?

Unvote, vote: Toro

OMGUS!!!

Quicklynch, Random Lynch, to me it sounds as if you just want to play russian roulette with your 'fellow' townmembers.

wait... fellow townmembers... you would have to know he is town to make such a statement, there is only one way you could know he is town and playing russian roulette with his 'fellow' town members and that is if you are scum and know he is town.

HOS:Toro

You don't think there's a difference between quicklynch or random lynch?

A random lynch is not an inferior strategy to a non-random lynch. Townie reads aren't perfect, either.

A quicklynch is an inferior strategy.

both are inferiour stratagy for town to do.... causes more harm than it does good.

The assumption is that power roles claim like they're supposed to if they meet an unlucky roll.

role fishing for power roles here maybe? you want a quick lynch to out possible power roles is how I read this... noted for future reference.

Btw, do you think that random lynches & quicklynches are equivalently inferior?

both are completly dumb in a 7 player game where we would be in a Lynch or lose scanario

I think a random lynch ends up with more info in the end.

I am really beginning to think your lynch will end up giving us more info, how would ANY random lynch give us information, maybe you just want to take a chance to lynch a power role?

I think a random lynch ends up with more info in the end.

See, now that's the confusing part for me.

I don't see how randomly lynching gives you more information when less discussion results from it.

exactly

Right now I am happy with my vote, it seems Netlaa wants to get a lynch done and dusted as quickly as possible or at least out a power role in waggoning a quick lynch. His play is very anti-town whatever way you look at it. But Toro's 'fellow townmembers' comment alarms me as a possile slip, maybe im looking at it wrong but I see it like that

[jasonT1981]

Well...it seems the RVS is over, so I'm just going to

unvote

I think its well and truly over, care to add anything more to your unvote? any thoughts, theories?

I find it hard to believe you just unvote without commenting on anything else that has happened

[jasonT1981]

you call for it, yet when I vote for you joking about making a quick lynch you jump all over me? how does that sit?

I didn't jump all over you. I pointed out my initial impression of you, which I also happened to call an "initial impression."

I beg to differ... you even named me as your top suspect

Anyways, atm jason is my top suspect. Jason's "sure" gives me a weird feeling. Almost like he secretly wants me to get quicklynched.

Yeah, that's what jason's vote looks like and what it's likely to be. But at the same time, it doesn't really discount the idea of a quicklynch, even though that's what he's voting me for (presumably jokingly, of course). That's why I get a bad initial impression of it.

.

I was hoping for more of a reaction to it.

Jason's vote is the one that felt weird to me.

So yea, I see that as all over me....

@ jason: Give me time, I just woke up.

that was over 24 hours ago.....

Alright, I'm going to have to explain this concept here, it's called RANDOM. That means that even though town might get lynched, scum might get lynched too (gasp).

That said, I don't really care for random lynching. I made it clear from point A that's it's called a BACK-UP option. Meaning, I prefer to lynch who I find suspicious, as soon as I do find someone suspicious.

I think its best we lynch on evidence, I will point this out AGAIN

RANDOM LYNCH IN A 7 PLAYER GAME WILL PUT US AT LYNCH OR LOSE!!!!!

But you already have me as your top suspect, so instead of spouting this crap on random lynches why have you not started to build your case against me? after all I am your top suspect and already have found me suspicious?

Mod note: CSL is V/LA until Wed. With the holiday weekend I will check for prods starting tomorrow.

Carry on.

fair enough, I will wait until he returns to pressure him some more

Netlava, you have me as your top suspect, you say you want to lynch suspicious people...well if I am your top suspect I ask you then to start building your case on me... Stop with this random lynch crap once and for all and realize it is a retarted option only benifiting scum

[jasonT1981]

I must also point out, I find it funny I am mentioned as his top suspect he has yet to even put a

FOS,

let alone a vote on me...

weird eh?

[jasonT1981]

Sim post with Netlava there, I don't know why you have not started to build a case on me? maybe you don't think there is a strong enough one? anyhow, as your suspicion on me was, as you say at the beginning of the game who would you say is your top suspects now?

Yes, so will mis-lynching put us at LyoL however it would give us more info (due to generated discussion in day 1) than a random lynch as you are basically playing Russian rolloute

[jasonT1981]

What's weird about that? Or is there a pattern here?

I just found it very weird that I was at the time your top suspect (not sure if I am now or what) yet you did not place a FOS or even a vote on me.

[jasonT1981]

I think you have been very scummy, I have already outlined that and shown how I feel you where trying to out a power role along with other things in post 78.

Out of interest, have your suspicions on me grown stronger or weaker?

As much as I am actually enjoying this back and forth with you, I feel I should call it a night as it is nearly midnight here.

[jasonT1981]

Eh, there's more to the Toro case. I'll post the rest later.

Why? why later, why not now?

[jasonT1981]

I never said that my suspicion of jasonT was only at the beginning of the game. I said that jason was my "top suspect" at the beginning of the game. Considering the fact that it was the beginning of the game, being my "top suspect" doesn't necessarily mean that I firmly think a person scum yet.

Right now, I am mildly suspicious of jason & Toro.

Really, cause your very last post before this one (103) seems to suggest otherwise?

My suspicion on you at the moment hasn't changed much from the early game.

So if your opinion still hasn't changed, then you still suspect me as scum then? seems like you contradicted yourself.

[jasonT1981]

also, if your suspicion of me has not changed how come then it has gone from...top suspect

I said that jason was my "top suspect" at the beginning of the game.

to mildly suspect?

Right now, I am mildly suspicious of jason & Toro.

if your suspicion has not changed as you say, why downgrade from top suspect to mildly suspect? in fact you called me your top suspect and mildly suspect me in the same post?

[jasonT1981]

Jason, what do you think of Toro at the moment?

I think he is trying to scum hunt, he has built some things on Netlava also, not sure if he is just hopping on the bandwagon or not... his 'fellow town-member' post did make me think though, but I think I am willing to give him the benifit of the doubt on his eplination.

[jasonT1981]

Eh, there's more to the Toro case. I'll post the rest later.

this is later, you are still yet to post the rest of your case!

[jasonT1981]

Also, the apparent attempts to out a power role... refear to post 78

[jasonT1981]

Eh, there's more to the Toro case. I'll post the rest later.

THIS IS NOW 3 DAYS LATER AND YOU HAVE AVOIDED ANSWERING SO I WILL ASK AGAIN TO POST THE REST OF YOUR CASE

[jasonT1981]

Is there

ANY

reason why you keep ignoring the question of when you are going to post the rest of your case on Toro?

[jasonT1981]

As it is, your case consists of you trying to push the square peg through the circle hole.

Fit, damn you fit!

[jasonT1981]

LOL Zach, I guess you will always know me as that...

but yea the lurkers are annoying, even more so because this is a 7 player game and it looks like you and I, Toro and Netlava are the only ones actually playing this game.

So far

afatchic -6 posts not posted since Saturday
CSL - 7 posts with NOT ONE contribution to the game
Haylen 6 posts with NOT ONE contribution to the game
JasonT1981 (me) 19 posts (20 after this)
Netlava - 44 posts (Damn)
Toro - 31 posts
Zach - 26 posts

So yea, Afatchic, CSL and Haylen NEED to get their asses into gear and catch up or request replacement, in a 7 player game having 3 (nearly half the game) MIA is crazy!

I may even start to support the random lynch idea on one of those 3 lurkers!

REQUEST MOD POKE ON INACTIVES

[jasonT1981]

Sotty7 is already aware off this, but this weekend I am not going to be about much... I plan on getting very drunk and have fun and actually leaving my computer screen and going outside (oh noes!!!)

Normal service will be resumed Sunday evening/Monday morning whenever the hangover disappears!

[jasonT1981]

Hey, and Welcome KittyMo

[jasonT1981]

I am in the middle of writing up my thoughts. I have a bunch of notes right now, and I cant post them cause that isnt perfect. I will try and have it done by tonight, but it's 1am now..

Its now the next evening and still nothing....

[jasonT1981]

unvote
vote:Haylen

Post your bloody thoughts already DAMN!!!

[jasonT1981]

*sigh*
i am trying to but you keep posting which means i keep replying. Now if you stop posting until I have posted my thoughts, we might get somewhere.

So stalling conversation as well? awesome

Lynch please!

[jasonT1981]

Haylen said she is a Vanilla Townie, I said I'm Vanilla Townie as well. If I survive Day 1 I invite the Cop to come and investigate me.

So you would be happy to out a cop to verify your status? fishy indeed

[jasonT1981]

or we cud lynch you now to avoid that.... just sayin

[jasonT1981]

or we cud lynch you now to avoid that.... just sayin

Does that mean you find Toro scummy? You seemed to think he wasn't really that scummy earlier.

I find the fact he is wanting a cop to clear him strange, it seems like he is trying to out the cop

[jasonT1981]

The claim is premature. I think people should claim only when a 4th player intends to hammer.

not really considering she is at -1

What? You don't think someone would've came out of nowhere and just dropped one? I still say there's a good chance that Haylen is scum now though.

Why? I just claimed Vanilla.

But nobody except the cop can verify that, so it's still possible that you are in fact scum.

Hmm again hinting at a cop clearence/guilty... I really see Toro as desperate to out the cop, I really do

Problem with that Haylen, we weren't throwing more questions at you, we were just telling you to post your thoughts which you constantly failed to do.

Yea, but the problem with that is the more we posted at her, the more she responded taking away from her posting her thoughts....

Wanted to hear from the lurkers before I made up my mind, but now that it's been partially addressed,

Vote: Toro

any reasons?

I still prefer lynching Haylen, but I also wouldn't mind one of Toro at this point either. I'm not getting good vibes on him, and he's really been buddying up to me hard.

I think I would support a Toro lynch right now, it does seem he wants to out the cop despritly as I have pointed out before.

Mostly waiting for a possible hammer at this point.

not really sure if I like this comment. Seems like you want a hammer to cut off discussion

Of course you are, scum. If I'm lynched I'm guarenteeing that the rest of the town will take you down D2.

I'm saying, we don't know exactly what Haylen is.

But you know Netlava is scum and aren't voting for him?

was about to make the same point about this......

Haylen said she is a Vanilla Townie, I said I'm Vanilla Townie as well. If I survive Day 1 I invite the Cop to come and investigate me.

AGAIN trying to out the cop????

Haylen said she is a Vanilla Townie, I said I'm Vanilla Townie as well. If I survive Day 1 I invite the Cop to come and investigate me.

So you would be happy to out a cop to verify your status? fishy indeed

Only as a last resort just to prove myself on Day 2, but I doubt that will be necessary.

last resort? but you have been harping on about it as if it should happen...I am really uncomfortable with your constant calling for a cop

Can you summarize why you think I'm scum again? Also, why do you think Haylen is scum?

You're kidding right?

no, he asked you to summerize, I think its a fair question.

or we cud lynch you now to avoid that.... just sayin

Does that mean you find Toro scummy? You seemed to think he wasn't really that scummy earlier.

I find the fact he is wanting a cop to clear him strange, it seems like he is trying to out the cop

No, no, not at all. If he doesn't want to come out and clear me then he doesn't have to me, he's not my puppet y'know.

but if a cop can clear you, then he really should for if we mislynch its Lynch or Lose, I just feel you are trying to out a cop

OK now for Toros wonder post... WOW lol...

I can buy Haylen being sick and not posting, sure if you can post when sick all and well but i can relate as when I am sick i like to kick back and not bother with mafia at all.

Right that major post has me wondering.. I was considering a vote on Toro effectivly hammering him before obsobrbing that huge clusterfuck but I do agree with Zach that he is now seeming more like fustrated townie from that post. I would be happier with a Netlava lynch right now. Still not 100% on Haylen. I think I need a bit more convincing on that.

[jasonT1981]

Sorry, my thoughts cut off. Netlavas vote on Toro seems very weird to me, he puts someone at -1 and gives absolutely no reasoning to it what so ever. seems very bold and ambitious... not wanting to make a hammer but wanting to be on the wagon.. his comment about just waiting for the hammer tops it off for me...

I cant find the right word to describe Netlavas vote, Its on the tip on my tongue but i cant remember it! ARGH!"

[jasonT1981]

Ah the word has come to me... his vote was very opportunistic.

[jasonT1981]

Welcome to both new people. Hey Nika... Fancy meeting you here!

[jasonT1981]

Cop claim guilty....

Doc claim when Doc already dead....

Yea, this is pretty open and shut.. Open Set-up, only one Doc. Case closed

vote:Nikanor

DIE SCUM!!

[jasonT1981]

Drunken Hammers FTW!!!!

[jasonT1981]

good game folks, thanks to Sotty for modding this game.I will see you all again I hope in other games... Many of you I am already with in another lol

[jasonT1981]

I totally agree with Zach