Mini 816: Revenge of the Monkey(GAME OVER!)

[dramonic]

@Konowa

Currently, I don't have 2 real scum reads. Considering we have multiple lurkers onboard (Pim, SC), Player who freshly replaced lurkers (RBT, MME) and a claimed cop, that leaves three players. Me, who surprisingly I don't have a scum read on, Ryan, whom I have mixed feelings about, but mostly WIFOM and nothing lynch-worthy and Sajin, who basically is my one scum read. General thoughts are as follow:


Pim: Nothing to analyze, we need a serious replacement for this fellow here.

SC: Has shown a lot of town behaviour in my opinion. Nothing incriminating came to me when I read h(er/is) posts.

RBT: Snake didn't really do a lot game-wise, except point out flaws in Charter's posts (like everyone else). I'm waiting for more content from RBT to analyze, since her few posts are generally going with the flow.

MME: Pretty neutral read on him. Useless predecessor. Rather strange opinion on claiming investigations, but that might be just his playstyle. Also seems to refuse the fact that thinking a phrase sounds weird does not make it a rolefish

Konowa: Err... Well, some of your posts are a bit odd, but you are uncountered cop. However if you keep investigating people who die I'll start doubting the existence of an actual cop in this game. (I have played a game in which there was no cop)

Sajin: keeps trying to get votes onto me for my vote history but that's hogwash, in the whole game I voted a total of 4 times:
-Voted Charter for RVS and became real later
-Unvoted Charter because my vote wasn't pressuring anymore
-Revoted Charter with full intent to lynch
-Voted Dev because of his plain terrible play when confronted with a CC
If you see any vote history pattern to analyze then enlighten me, because I see nothing incriminating me in there. Also, last ditch jumping on Charter's wagon when he openly voiced he'd prefer votes on Dev day 1 is ridiculous.

Bottomline, if you're going to create a case on me, do it with actual facts, instead of trying to get the people who are too lazy to read back and see you're lying.

Ryan: Mixed feeling, but it's purely gut. No actual scum read, I'm just amused by the fact everyone who state actual suspicion of him (Charlatan ISO 18, SB ISO 12) end up dead

Vote: Sajin

[Konowa]

Konowa: Err... Well, some of your posts are a bit odd, but you are uncountered cop.

However if you keep investigating people who die

I'll start doubting the existence of an actual cop in this game. (I have played a game in which there was no cop)

Explain the bolded, please.

[dramonic]

It just refer to the fact that you kept your investigation for most of the day just to reveal that he was actually already dead.

If you tell me you investigated Charlatan today, I'm going to start doubting you <_<

[Sajin]

Your vote history is that you never once voted Devestation before the CC by the cop.

You also voted with him for most of the day. The fact that you voted him once he was CCed does not exclude from being scum, but rather is more likely because you realized he was going down no matter what you did.

[dramonic]

I never saw Dev as scummy as Charter before the CC. Also, I didn't vote "with him" more than anyone else on the wagon <<

[Sajin]

I have shown a reason I believe you to likely be scum with devestation.

Since you have not shown a reason for me being scum, I will now add the OMGUS vote to your case.

[dramonic]

I still believe your case on me is mostly you scum trying to make something that isn't there, and you still haven't responded to the fact you went directly agaisnt your own words with that vote on CHarter

[Sajin]

What words?

[dramonic]

ISO 7 you say we should Lynch Dev
ISO 10 you vote Charter, without any explanation of your vote over Dev.

[Sajin]

How is this scummy over your own vote history?

[Konowa]

It just refer to the fact that you kept your investigation for most of the day just to reveal that he was actually already dead.

Aye. So?

vote dramonic

Mostly for your defense of Devestation d1.

[Sajin]

/request prod/replacement Pim.

RBT, ryan: whats your opinions on dramonic?

[Riceballtail]

Based solely on his play today, I'd consider a Dramonic lynch.

I'm also interested in hearing Konowa's investigation results, since they can help us hunt scum by lynching scum/removing town from lynching.

[MonkeyMan576]

I've already asked for a replacement for Pim...

[StrangerCoug]

I'm back, but have a lot of catch-up to do. I'll read what's gone on since the day started later.

[StrangerCoug]

Currently, I don't have 2 real scum reads. Considering we have multiple lurkers onboard (Pim, SC)

I am

REALLY

not fond of being called a lurker while on V/LA. I understand that this is only my second post since the 5th, but the first time I checked this thread after that, Devestation was hammered but had not yet flipped. When I checked it again, he had flipped Mafia goon. This is the first time I've been on site at all in about two days, so I'm out of the loop with everything.

SC: Has shown a lot of town behaviour in my opinion. Nothing incriminating came to me when I read h(er/is) posts.

I am male, by the way.

Konowa: Err... Well, some of your posts are a bit odd, but you are uncountered cop. However if you keep investigating people who die I'll start doubting the existence of an actual cop in this game. (I have played a game in which there was no cop)

Wakey, wakey, dramonic. Konowa counterclaimed Devestation; the latter has been proven not to really be a cop. That you have played a game with no cop in it does not discredit Konowa's claim. Town cop has, in my experience, investigated someone who died the same night (Mini 714 and Mafia 91 are the two examples coming to immediate mind).

Vote: dramonic

mostly for attempting to discredit someone essentially confirmed, but your falsely accusing me of lurking is noted.

[Konowa]

Oh and to throw it out there, there is a mafia role-blocker.

Continue.

[MonkeySudo]

Vote Count
With 8 alive, it is 5 to lynch

Dramonic(3) - Sajin, Konowa, StrangerCoug
Sajin(1) - Dramonic
Not Voting - My Milked Eek, ryan2754, Riceballtail, Pim

[ryan2754]

I think dramonic is the scummiest player currently still in the game.

I agreed with SB's logic of dramonic in his 182, and even voted dramonic.

Also, see my 293. Of the players on my suspect list, only SC and dramonic remain.


Voting:
Round 1
Final Vote Count
With 12 playing, it requires 7 to lynch
Charter(7) - Dramonic, Devestation, StrangerCoug, Ryan2754, Sajin, Konowa, charlatan
Devestation(1) -Scott Brosius
Dramonic(1) - Charter
Scott Brosius(1) - AdamNW/MME
Pim(1) - Snake/RBT
Ryan2754(1) - Pim

MME, RBT, PIM randoms, and other players all on Charter (town)

RBT hammers, citing the game won't advance. Not much read
MME playing similar to meta.
PIM no read.
Konowa - Cop
SC - slight to no suspicion
dramonic - suspicious
sajin - neutral, nothing striking as scum

I have been thinking about this for a while, and now is a good time.

I am a town mason.

My mason partner is Sajin. However, his alignment is NOT confirmed.

Wanted to put it out there before LYLO, worst case scenario.

[dramonic]

This is rather strange. I am a town roleblocker and I targetted you night 1 Konowa, since I was unsure about you, yet you still got a read. Wouldn't 2 roleblockers in a single game be a bit much?

I blocked Sajin N2, btw.

[Konowa]

I investigated Scott N1. He died, flipped town. Thus, I got an innocent result.

I investigated RBT N2. I received nothing.

There is a mafia-roleblocker.

Lynch please.

[Riceballtail]

Well, clearly that would make a mafia RB. I'm not completely convinced dra is faking yet.

Dramonic: Who'd you target N1?

[Sajin]

This is rather strange. I am a town roleblocker and I targetted you night 1 Konowa, since I was unsure about you, yet you still got a read. Wouldn't 2 roleblockers in a single game be a bit much?

I blocked Sajin N2, btw.

Then the reason you are voting me makes no sense. You should of been pushing for konowa's lynch if this was true.

[Sajin]

I am a town mason.

My mason partner is Sajin. However, his alignment is NOT confirmed.

Wanted to put it out there before LYLO, worst case scenario.

Confirmed, I am a mason. Ryan's alignment is unconfirmed (which I totally don't understand why he is a mason, it should be neighbor, meh)

I am not sure what good claiming now did, but sure. Its better than me dieing tonight and have ryan claim town mason and skate free if he is scum. But I have a town read on ryan based on our QT.

[Sajin]

Well, clearly that would make a mafia RB. I'm not completely convinced dra is faking yet.

Dramonic: Who'd you target N1?

Clearly either konowa or dramonic have lied to us. Since scum have already CCed konowa, I am more inclined to believe him over dramonic because if konowa and dramonic were scum partners that was an absolutely fail bus.

Thanks for defending your scum partner though.