Mini 793: Scrubs mafia- GAME OVER

[Fishythefish]

I don't understand the above post.

At this point, veerus is obvscum, MafiaSSK and Fritz having passed up opportunities to hammer. A hammer would be welcome.

[Snow White]

@MafiaSSK, you previously voted veerus. Why are you now relectant to hammer the person you initally voted for?

Secondly after reading through the 15 page thread what were your thoughts?

Thirdly, what about Gorrad's post did not seem right? If you have read through the thread then im surprised you would not have noticed how often Gorrad and veerus were tag teaming in almost everything they have done. Is there any way you can reason this? Do you not find it suspicious? Or even questionsable.

FoS MafiaSSK

@fritzler. Is there a third killer? At the beginning i read there was a maximum possiblity of four mafia. But of course that would make no sense now, because then the mafia would have had majority at this stage and town would have lost already.

A third killer is the maximum possibility atm.

If so this is LyLo and we need to vote for who we feel is mafia. From reading, what are your thoughts? Please if you are innocent state your queries.

A hammer is most welcome. Im prepared to bet that veerus is scum for reasons i have wrote up in my long post... As a matter of interest who has actually read my long post?!?? I feel as though its been neglected.

@people who have ignored my long post, has something in it offended you?

If there are three mafia, by my reasoning

-Tzee and I are innocent.
-I assume Fishy to be innocent.
-Gorrad has voted with us.

Either Gorrad is mafia covering his ass or he is genuinely an innocent.

-Considering Gorrad is an innocent, and MafiaSSK and Fritz will not vote veerus. This means MafiaSSK and Fritz are both mafia and consequently we have to wait a day for Tzee to get his internet access back and vote veerus.

However, if Gorrad is covering his ass then either MafiaSSk or Fritz are Mafia and whichever one is innocent, they are refusing to vote veerus because they dont think veerus mafia. I would like to know why.

@MafiaSSK why did you first vote veerus and now wont vote veerus? This has been your own action and not hp [leaves]. So can you please explain your reasoning.

Please someone let me know if you cant understand what im trying to say here and say the word and i will gladly clarify it for you.

[veerus]

Since I'm at L-1, I will claim and ask that everyone reconsider this train as its conclusion will lead to engame. I'm Kimberly Briggs, JD's ex-girlfriend. I'm a vanilla townie.

We're applying circular reasoning that could apply to anyone here. For example:

Tzee & Snow are town. I'm town. Therefore, three of Gorrad, Fishy, MafiaSSK, Fritzler are scum. Fishy, for one, comes to mind with his hardcore tunnel vision on me during LYLO for what he feels is an unjust lynch. Which I disagree with as Brandi exhibited some scum tells that have been observed and confirmed time and time again. And a case could be made for just about everyone here except Fritzler since he and his predecessors are yet to post their thoughts on anything. We've got to use better reasoning to back up this blind process of elimination.

[Fishythefish]

False.

Suppose three of Gorrad, MafiaSSK, Friztler were scum. Then one or more of MafiaSSK, Fritzler would be scum. Then that one would have hammered- both have posted with you at L-1.

[Fishythefish]

EBWOP: "Suppose three of Gorrad, MafiaSSK, Friztler

and myself

were scum"

[MafiaSSK]

Why would Kim be a part of the town of Saced Heart? None the less a townie?

[Fishythefish]

@mod

I have no access this weekend.

[Dr. Perry Cox]

Votecount

3 veerus

(Snow White, Fishythefish, Gorrad)

1 Fishythefish

(veerus)

Not voting: Fritzler, Tzeentch, MafiaSSK

[Snow White]

@MafiaSSK FOR THE THIRD TIME, please answer my question

Why are you not voting veerus?

@Veerus. Just because you have roleclaimed does not excuse your scum like actions.

Why have you copied Gorrad's every thought and action?

@Everyone. Everyone revealed to date has been a regular on Scrubs, Jordan, Ted, Elliot, Doug, Laverne. They are all very recognisable characters.

Outside of Tzee and I who are JD and Turk, rationally i would have presumed the 4other players would be:
- Carla Turkelton.
- The Todd.
- The Janitor.
- Bob Kelso.

But i suppose the Todd might be excusable and replaced with Kim... The rest i dont think could be ignored. Because Carla, the Janitor and Kelso are MAJOR characters. Kim does not seem like a character that rationally would be included in the game when put up against the four other options...

If "The Todd" is out there and you have not placed your voted, veerus is lying and then he is blatantly scum and your vote should be on him!!

[Tzeentch]

Sorry for the lack of analysis - not got much time online.

But this one seems easy enough.

Vote: Veerus

[Dr. Perry Cox]

My Housecleaning

Step 1: Get a pen.
Step 2: Write down the patient’s name.

Now I can understand how you can run into trouble by this point, these being tasks so difficult that an admitting nurse might not master them until their second hour on the job. I mean, what if the pen’s out of ink? What if all I have is a pencil? Or, it’s the 21st century, aren’t I supposed to be doing all this on a computer?

So, if you had this much difficulty identifying that veerus’s name wasn’t Kimberly Briggs, you may as well give up any hope of ever being a capable diagnostician. Hurricanes descending on a coastal town, or that ex-girlfriend who makes out with your best friend across the room, they both have names even though you and I and 100,000 evacuees know that they’re just unstoppable forces of nature. So despite veerus claiming to adhere to the societal standard of moniker, we all know that he was so chaotic that we may as well forget about niceties and just call him as he really was: “The Janitor”. I have no idea what his ultimate goal was here, but, I’m familiar enough with the general idea of “systematic elimination of everyone opposed to his regime” to not care about the specific blueprints he’d drawn up.

Now, if you’re expecting me to sink to my knees and thank some divinity that it took you only 3 operations to excise 1 tumor; well, by the time you get here tomorrow morning, I might be finished laughing at the idea, and might instead be able to manage a pained grimace as I observe your over-cocky egos bungle your next case.

veerus (

The Janitor

, Vanilla

) was a member of

The Brain Trust

.

Day 3 Final Votecount

4 veerus

(Snow White, Fishythefish, Gorrad, Tzeentch)

1 Fishythefish

(veerus)

Not voting: Fritzler, MafiaSSK

(It is Night 3.)

[Dr. Perry Cox]

My Silence

A quiet night. Time for rounds, newbies.

(It is Day 4.)

[Fritzler]

Wow guys. Way to go. It is definitely mass claim time.

[Gorrad]

I concur. Care to go first?

[Fritzler]

I concur. Care to go first?

No, I didn't lynch a townie.

[Snow White]

In regard to no one being killed last night, Fritzler may have a valid point, maybe it is time for a mass roleclaim. Id like some other peoples opinion on this. But if there is a doctor in our midst then the responsiblity of their claim is theirs. Im kinda worried of the possiblity that if there is a doctor, they will be targetted if mafia skips under the radar today. But only the individual can make the decision.

Generally i dont like the idea of roleclaiming anyway but I have no qualms about it in this game, as my role has already been disclosed, i am Dr. Turk, Tzee's mason.

@Fritzler. Im not clear by what you meant in your last post. Can you please explain what you meant?

[Gorrad]

Considering how few night kills we've had, I think that a doctor claim would be very useful.

I'm Dr. Cox, vanilla.

[Tzeentch]

(It is Day 4.)

Considering how few night kills we've had, I think that a doctor claim would be very useful.

I'm Dr. Cox, vanilla.

Innnnteresting.

Obviously, I'm JD, Mason with Snow White.

Everyone else?

[Gorrad]

(It is Day 4.)

Considering how few night kills we've had, I think that a doctor claim would be very useful.

I'm Dr. Cox, vanilla.

Innnnteresting.

Yeah, I knew that reaction would come as soon as I got the role PM.

If you're interested in flavor, it basically says that due to my good looks, talent, and awesomeness, I don't need any powers.

[MafiaSSK]

I'm Carla. I'm a Cop because Cox trusts my judgement so much that he's willing to share his informaiton about the person I select. so n1 my predeseccor investigated BMQ and got a guilty N2 got a guilty on veerus. N3 I got an innocent on Fishy.

[Gorrad]

N2 got a guilty on veerus

Why didn't you lynch him, then?

[MafiaSSK]

N2 got a guilty on veerus

Why didn't you lynch him, then?

Thought I could be paranoid.

[Gorrad]

So we either have SW and Tzee pulling a fake masonry gambit or SSK pulling a fake cop gambit. Joy.

[Tzeentch]

I'm Carla. I'm a Cop because Cox trusts my judgement so much that he's willing to share his informaiton about the person I select. so

n1 my predeseccor investigated BMQ and got a guilty

N2 got a guilty on veerus. N3 I got an innocent on Fishy.

First things first, I know you're lying, so

Vote: MafiaSSK

.

Your play at the start of D3 kinda supports you getting a guilty on Veerus, given how hard you drove it, but hp[leaves]'s play does not remotely support him getting a guilty on BMQ.

He only voted BMQ towards the end of the first day after voting Slicey, inHim, Maturin, inHim again, Slicey again and inHim again.

He didn't even mention BMQ in day one except by replying to him in one post, with not a shred of suspicion, and eventually lurker-voting him - which he had repeatedly made painfully obvious was his preferred voting method.

Obviously you can't speak for hp[leaves] yourself, but it looks to me like you replaced in, saw an opportunity, and went for it.

N2 got a guilty on veerus

Why didn't you lynch him, then?

Thought I could be paranoid.

This doesn't ring true to me. If you thought you could be paranoid, why did you immediately vote him, without explanation, in LyLo? You asked permission to vote Veerus, someone you apparently had a guilty result on, but then declined the opportunity to hammer him - twice.

You should also know now that apparently the only possible unsane cop possibility is you being a random cop, which is incredibly unbalancing in a mini. If you therefore assume you are a sane cop - which would be, in my opinion, the only logical choice - why did you not come out and vote Snow White at the start of the day?

One other quick point: There is no flavour reason to assume any character is pro-town or anti-town. The Janitor flipped as a member of the Brain Trust, which makes sense as a scum group, but both Ted and Doug flipped as town - and they're member of the Brain Trust in the show (Doug, admittedly, is kinda part-time though).

Also, the flavour is interesting here. Apparently, Carla is a cop because Dr. Cox trusts her enough to share opinions and knowledge. Also apparently, Dr. Cox is a vanilla townie who has no specialist knowledge. We also know that Dr. Cox is the mod's role. Something very weird is going on with the flavour here...

[Snow White]

Let me get this straight. MafiaSSK. You were told that you were "Cop." And i was told i was mason. If you are telling the truth there is a MASSIVE conflict of interests here.

Your actions to me have been the scummiest to date and you have ignored any questions i have put directly to you regarding hp [leaves] action and your own.

-Threats of "if you dont vote such a way this makes you look scummy"
-"if you dont vote the other way i will start a lynch on you tomorrow"

And i can back up the above with links if they are required.

Hypothetically, if there were a "cop". Im curious as to your "being cop" MafiaSSK and knowing veerus was scum, you:
- First put a vote on veerus.
- Retracted it.
- When people piled the pressure on veerus, you "knowing" veerus was scum did not re-place your vote on veerus
- Instead you asked permission BEFORE Gorrad placed his vote (the third vote)
- and AFTER Gorrad placed his vote you still left tzee to place the hammer although you found the time to ask

why would kim be a part of the town of Sacred Heart? None the less a townie?

You refused to hammer veerus and now you are claiming to know that he was scum. For a cop you dont seem too sure. You havent even placed a vote on me and my guess is you are waiting to see who agrees with you before you try to bandwagon me.

Id given up on you answering any questions posed to you as you

ignored every single question

asked of you and i will not waste my time asking you a FOURTH time for answers when you have exasperated all benefit of the doubt in my mind by accusing me of being scum and ignoring what was asked of you before you carried out your so called "investigation"

Ordinarily i would humour the idea of a random cop. But why then have you:
-Failed to answer any questions?
-Why did you not vote for me off the bat supposedly "knowing" i was mafia day1?
-Instead you voted/unvoted veerus.
-Then asked permission to vote for veerus while it was OBVIOUS we were waiting for a hammer.

If you really are a cop, which i find extremely unlikely given hp's and your own actions, you are a random cop. Which is the only possiblity in my mind. This means the answer recieved for my alignment was grossly wrong, you should have back checked me again, before leaping into your flawed "investigations" because i am innocent. Instead you investigated fishy. Because of what?

If i was scum i would have jumped on fishy too before veerus's lynch and waited for a scumbuddy to jump on alongside. Instead i acted rationally in asking Gorrad to retract his vote on fishy and think clearly, because in my opinion he had clearly acted irrationally.

You knowing veerus' guilt. Then wrote.

...I'm loathe to say it, but Snow White is right.

Unvote: Vote: Veerus

.

Let's pray you're right.

This post doesn't seem right...

Oh as well as this i believe i was one of the people who drove for veerus' lynching. In fact i listed him as second most likely to be scum UNDER YOU. You were the first to vote for veerus

without reason

and unvoted him without revoting him, assumedlywaiting for peoples "permission" when it was CLEAR you did not need anyones permission.

@MafiaSSK, i had seen you as potential scum before this and now, hence the previous FoS. I now see this as an attempt to claw a victory for you with one scum down by implicating Tzee and myself as liars.

Whoever wants to believe MafiaSSK's claim and vote me off, thats fine. At least in my death you will know Tzee is an innocent and to lynch MafiaSSK tomorrow if your given that chance.

Vote MafiaSSK

@Gorrad's claim. I am rather unsure of what to make of it. I dont see why he would make such a crazy role claim of Dr. Cox. unless he is actually Dr. Cox. But this means that consequently either Dr. Bob Kelso or the Todd has been made redundant.. which blows my earlier theory to the wind.