Mini 793: Scrubs mafia- GAME OVER

[Furry]

Look, scum

generally

don't make posts like that. However, she has done other scummy things as I've listed. I still think there's a chance she's still scum, I'm just not as sure now.

Maybe bad scum. I can point you to one hell of a lot of posts that are big and have lots of analysis and are from scum.

[Slicey]

I'm at a friends house right now but, I decided to check in briefly on their computer. I have noticed that Brain is still failing to read properly. I don't attack "anyone who looks at me funny." I attack whoever is scummy. I've been clearly very supportive of one wagon, for the sheer fact that no one is even HALF as scummy as inHim.

Isn't it a coincidence that everyone who has attacked you looks scummy to you?

HMMMMMMMM...

Slicey looking worse by not moving the vote.

vote: Slicey

Brandi picked quite an inopportune time to write 24 pages and have me respond to it.

Pay attention, I already said that in my larger post, now I'm just reiterating it. >_>

The fact you keep bringing it up and not moving over there is what I'm getting at with my vote.

I'm going to take a dip in the pool - after that I'll try and tackle the rest of the monster.

This deadline is cramping me.

The things you have said and done are scummier than the things Brandi has done.

[Dr. Perry Cox]

Votecount

6 inHimshallibe

(Brandi, veerus, Fishythefish, hp [leaves], Slicey, Gorrad)

4 Slicey

(Maturin24, Tzeentch, Furry, inHimshallibe)

1 Brandi

(BrianMcQueso)

1 Gorrad

(Debonair Danny DiPietro)

Not voting:

[Slicey]

Brian: Do you still believe Brandi is the best lynch? If not, whose lynch do you like more, mine or InHim's?

DDD, do you plan on changing your vote anytime soon? Deadline is tomorrow, and it looks like either me or InHim are going to be lynched, and your vote is on neither of us.

[veerus]

Of the top three vote getters inHim is highest on my list, with Slicey not far behind and Brandi pretty low down the list and while I won't have computer access for the rest of the night I will read anything inHim writes tomorrow before making any decision.

DDD, do you plan on changing your vote anytime soon? Deadline is tomorrow, and it looks like either me or InHim are going to be lynched, and your vote is on neither of us.

Slicey, are you reading or just posting?

[Slicey]

gah, didn't see DDD's last post. >_>

[inHimshallibe]

I'm curious as to who the town will seek to run up on Day 2, in the case that I am indeed lynched and then turn up town.

I'll try and get the rest of that response before I go to sleep tonight.

[Fishythefish]

Haven't posted for a while. Nothing really to add. I'm happy with my vote.

[Fishythefish]

Oh; one thing. We need the usual majority for a deadline lynch. Don't let a no lynch happen.

[hp [leaves]]

Anyone below this post who doesn't have his vote on inHim and doesn't hammer will be lynched tomorrow.

[inHimshallibe]

... and I fell asleep while typing the damned thing.

Ok, I'll claim, but it won't help, and wouldn't expect it to.

Mrs. Cox, Roleblocker.

lol, that looks like the worst claim ever,

if I were a bad guy.

Right now, my thoughts on who to lynch tomorrow:

I'd look to those who blew the way I was playing in the beginning way out of proportion. I said I would cut out the recklessness,

and I did

, and still people rallied around those initial points.

Also, DDD and Gorrad for making accusations and not backing them up with votes.
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It doesn't look like I'll have the time to respond to all of that. I never really wanted to in the first place. Brandi deserves an 'A' in the convincing people to vote department, through emphasis of things that aren't really important.

I'll try right now.

I never changed my reasoning for voting people. Like my very first vote on Furry - I didn't like the

way

he unvoted, and then further explained I thought he was explaining too much in that unvote. That's not changing my reasoning.

Translation: IN MY DAY, WE DIDN'T PLAY MAFIA, WE PLAYED "LYNCH RANDOM PEOPLE UNTIL THE GAME IS OVER" Seriously, not only is this a flawed 'method of play' for the town, but I don't even see how those with SCUM ROLES would be happy with playing the game if the town didn't even TRY.

Next, inhim votes DDD, for making valid points against him. ;P

Does anyone else not see how much spin she put into her post? I clearly said that I did

not

use wagons for their lynching purposes

only.

It kind of perplexes me that most of you all are focusing on intent to lynch rather than using bandwagons as an instrument of the game.

That point about my vote of DDD is more spin - notice how she takes certain pieces of my Day rather than my play as a whole to provide this case against me.

Yes, it is true, voting for players to put

PRESSURE

on them is good. But that is NOT what inhim had been doing. He wanted to bandwagon ANYONE at all whether they were SCUMMY OR NOT, just WHOEVER HAD THE MOST VOTES. He just wanted to lynch someone, anyone, with as little information as possible. That is NOT good for the game at all.

Once again, not at all close to what I have expressed as my intentions within

any

game I play here at 'scum.

BS. NOWHERE, Not ONCE at the point in which the 4 person scum group was being debated did inhim even post his THOUGHTS on the matter. Post subject: 48, all inHim did was vote for him and said he liked his bandwagon better. That doesn't look like him "AGREEING" to ANYTHING.

But it does to me; voting someone that other players vote very much means you agree with them. You have a point that I added reasoning after the fact - I have no way to prove that I was thinking this when I hopped on the wagon, except the fact that I hopped on the wagon.

Now first of all, Slicey wasn't STATING anything, he was asking a QUESTION. "Thats not what he said, its what he meant!" Also is a very odd reason to vote someone. But again, inHIM did say that, blatantly, MULTIPLE TIMES.

I don't know what to make of this blatant defense of Slicey. Ugh, let me find the context for this.

You're saying we should lynch players based on who has the most amount of votes, not based on how scummy they are?

Once again, Slicey has my intent on bandwagoning wrong. Tzeentch read me correctly, Slicey did not. Slicey was using this question as an attack, as Brandi completely missed/blew over/didn't want to admit.

[He has a habit of disregarding anything someone says against him that makes LOGICAL SENSE as someone having a bad attitude.]

No. I don't even have the energy to do this anymore. This is more of the same spin from Brandi.

Next, if I understood any of these fallacies I'd try and make a more reasonable response against them. As to the Relativist Fallacy, I honestly don't see it's application to Brandi's argument, as she constantly adds words to my posts.

I'm trying to generate a lot of possible information with many bandwagons.

a complete opposite of:

That's just more garbage to wade through on a reread, and doesn't help anyone, as far as I'm concerned.

Before he said that he didn't care about gathering information, he said that it was too much trouble/effort. Now, he's saying the point is to gather information. Which, if I hadn't said it enough already: Bandwagonning, with no reason behind it, and killing off a possible townie, just because you want a QUICK LYNCH gives little to no information to be brought out.

My head is going to explode. I can't believe someone is purposefully being this dense.

No, what I said is that I didn't want to create garbage, ie. useless posts, "to wade through." Nowhere did I say I was against information. I don't want a quick lynch, for the umpteenth time.

I'd like to note the Word file I have Brandi's quote and my response is "response to brandi oh lord in heaven how long does this have to be".

Second of all, If you notice, every time I make a valid point he just says "lol."

Not only is that flippant, it shows he has nothing to argue with, or any way to back up what he has said. He thinks that if he treats my points like they are 'funny' then he wont have them brought up again. Guess he was wrong.

With the "lol" posts, I was merely relating many other experiences where people were lynched without cases, and was trying to convey how naive Brandi was if she thought all lynches have cases. As to being overdramatic, I'm still responding with "lol".

He thinks that if he treats my points like they are 'funny' then he wont have them brought up again. Guess he was wrong.

You just

don't

read me correctly, OR you just read me how you want to and not how things are.




There might be more to come, later.

[hp [leaves]]

if I were a bad guy.

Can someone vote already?

[Tzeentch]

Gaah. Sorry all, there's been a crackdown on net use at work so I've barely been able to post.

Anyone below this post who doesn't have his vote on inHim and doesn't hammer will be lynched tomorrow.

Threatening people for having a different opinion to you, and saying so, is not good.

But the deadline is looming, and we don't want a no-lynch. inHim is not at the top of my scumdar at the moment (I find Slicey more scummy even now), but he's still a much better lynch than none at all, and on the brief readthrough I've made he's a perfectly reasonable choice.

And the claim certainly doesn't help.

Vote: inHimshallibe

[Brandi]

I'm at a friends house right now but, I decided to check in briefly on their computer. I have noticed that Brain is still failing to read properly. I don't attack "anyone who looks at me funny." I attack whoever is scummy. I've been clearly very supportive of one wagon, for the sheer fact that no one is even HALF as scummy as inHim.

Isn't it a coincidence that everyone who has attacked you looks scummy to you?

Not everyone who has attacked me looks scummy. I noted you were more anti-town than scummy, and I noted that BRIAN doesnt READ. =P But you're saying things that just aren't true.

[Brandi]

heh, haven't read everything page 10 yet. Well guess we have a lynch. =P Hope to see more from you tomorrow Tzeentch.

[Tzeentch]

Whoops, just got a reminder from our friendly Mod.

Unvote, vote: inHimshallibe

[Dr. Perry Cox]

My Ball-and-Chain

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees, I do know how much inHimshallibe hated it when I called him Mrs. Cox, because not only did the name “Cox” remind him of the bond of unholy matrimony that existed between us, but the “Mrs.” also reminded everyone in earshot that despite spending the equivalent of the economies of Greece, Guatemala, Guyana, Guinea, Equitorial Guinea, and Burkina Faso on allegedly age-defying Botox treatments, he was an *old* married-then-divorced-then-whatever-we-were-then hag. Each night, he'd whine to me by PM about a player, and I’d ignore any nightaction they sent to me just to get him to shut up and go away.

So let me say, that for managing to rid me of that vain shrill egotistic harpy I somehow married, I owe you all a utterly sarcastic, “well done, team!” that I’m going to immediately confirm as being utter sarcasm by explaining how now the only thing dragging me back is the iron weight of your collective incompetence. Because, after watching you twiddle your thumbs around in such tight little pirouettes that I could see the miniature pink tutus on them, you ran out of time and scrambled to get a last-minute diagnosis, which, unsurprisingly, could not be more wrong.

inHimshallibe (

Jordan Sullivan

, Roleblocker

) was a member of

Sacred Heart

.

Day 1 Final Votecount

7 inHimshallibe

(Brandi, veerus, Fishythefish, hp [leaves], Slicey, Gorrad, Tzeentch)

3 Slicey

(Maturin24, Furry, inHimshallibe)

1 Brandi

(BrianMcQueso)

1 Gorrad

(Debonair Danny DiPietro)

Not voting

:


(It is Night 1. Lindisfarne replaces Maturin24.)

[Dr. Perry Cox]

My Girls’ Night Out

What? Oh, sorry, I must have forgotten to set my alarm clock to wake me after I dozed off on that leeoooooooooong night shift I had to serve with Debonair Danny DiPietro. Who is a <snore>. Oh, I’m sorry. I fell asleep again because he is so <snore> boring, that simply thinking about telling you how boring he is caused my brain to reflexively switch itself off in a desperate attempt to not have to listen to him, about him, or nearby him and all him-like things. He was way-hay-ay-hay-ay too boring to have any <snore> night abilities <snore>.

But to finish our rounds, let’s have Slicey update us on what exciting breakthroughs we’ve had since yesterday in the field of dilly-dallying-over-patient-care-until-they-die, except he’s actually *not* a Nurse and put down that clipboard. And, okay, let’s try this again, without his threats of imminent violence:

No, Slicey, you’re not a Nurse, but that’s because the Nurse ability doesn’t exist in this game. Why don’t you grumble about it under your breath later instead of taking it up with someone. Oh wait. You’re dead. Well, good then.

All of you who stuck with Slicey yesterday give yourselves a big ol’ pat on the back, because you were just as wrong as all of your colleagues who opted for inHimshallibe.

Debonair Danny DiPietro (

Elliot Reid

, Vanilla

) was a member of

Sacred Heart

.
Slicey (

Laverne Roberts

, Vanilla

) was a member of

Sacred Heart

.

(It is Day 2.)

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Bah

[inHimshallibe]

Great write-ups.

Bah.

[Slicey]

bah. go town!

[Furry]

First I think I get an "I told you so" on inhim being town. Trust the town reads, that wagon was weak, weakity weak weak.

Willing to bet slicey was a vig kill though, DDD death is a bit surprising however.

Prob going to vote Tzee for that shifty hammer. That was one of those scenarios where a no lynch was the best move.

[Fishythefish]

Willing to bet slicey was a vig kill though

I agree.

That was one of those scenarios where a no lynch was the best move.

I disagree. Except in retrospect, obviously. A lynch is almost always better than a no lynch.

This game needs a reread with the new information. I'll do that as soon as I can.

[Tzeentch]

First I think I get an "I told you so" on inhim being town. Trust the town reads, that wagon was weak, weakity weak weak.

Willing to bet slicey was a vig kill though, DDD death is a bit surprising however.

Prob going to vote Tzee for that shifty hammer. That was one of those scenarios where a no lynch was the best move.

Really? I didn't have inHim at the top of my scumdar, but he wasn't exactly the most innocent person either. And frankly, the lynch is all we (reliably) have - if we're too hesitant to use it unless we

know

people to be scum, we'll be paralyzed with fear and easy pickings.

It's better to have a lynch with a 50-60% chance of success than no lynch. And yes, it didn't pay off, but it was a gamble I was willing to take.

On the other hand, I am interested by hp's ultimatum. Discouraging discussion is not a good thing - and you effectively pressured those who didn't find inHim as scummy as yourself to not post in his defence. Even as a "final thought for the day" sort of thing.

Re-reading is now required, back later.

[hp [leaves]]

Prob going to vote Tzee for that shifty hammer. That was one of those scenarios where a no lynch was the best move.

Hey guys I have found scum.