Mafia 93 - A Roccisi Summer - Over!

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Vote: Mixologist

Your avatar is distracting.

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who the account is an alt of is not the issue, it doesn't even matter. ogb tried to distract from the actual game of mafia by making this into a game of guess who. scummy enough to lynch right now.

You're blowing this way out of proportion, rofl.

If it requires a game of guess who to figure out who is controlling the OGB account, then you've either never heard of DGB or you need help.

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Oh. OGB isn't DGB?

I failed.

Never mind. Off that subject. rofl was right.

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Vote: alvinz95

Of all the players I recognise here (which is most of them), he's the least likely to help the town, and the most likely to slip under pressure as scum, therefore he's the best target for an early bandwagon.

I don't need no stinkin' random vote.

I would actually be willing to go along with this and see what happens.

Vote: alvinz95

unvote, vote OGB
No one cares. You're only trying to fire up wild goose chases instead of hunt scum or take a stance on anything in the RVS.

I thought OGB was obviously a DGB alt. But since he's* not, I think this is a legit arguement.

*yes, I saw the male sign under his avatar before. But I could see DGB making an alt and calling herself male.

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As for who is scum, it's way too early to say. OGB's comment is interesting, but I want to hear from alvinz.

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caboose, why would you rather policy vote/lynch alvinz than pursue what you agree is a legitimate argument in favor of voting ogb?

Not a policy vote.

You'll see....

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caboose, why would you rather policy vote/lynch alvinz than pursue what you agree is a legitimate argument in favor of voting ogb?

Not a policy vote.

You'll see....

oh really? please, do explain how voting for someone on the basis of agreeing with iaun's policy vote is not a policy vote.

I'm not trying to get alvinz

lynched

I'm trying to see if he will break down under the pressure.

which of these two things benefits the town more?

a 2nd vote for a player based on policy

a 6th vote for a player based on gameplay

Depends on the circumstances.

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caboose, thats still a policy vote. and i've never seen a policy vote actually succeed in applying real pressure to a player, because everyone knows its based on out of game reasons. policy voting players one considers to be bad in the face of perfectly good wagons replete with in game reasons is one of the more egregious forms of avoiding putting your vote anywhere meaningful.

My vote is not based on out of game reasons. I vote in the hopes that either he will prove himself town or make a scum slip under pressure.

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Ummm...
Why did Mufasa claim already?

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Reveal: Upon death, I will post the full Role PM of the dead player, including group memberships, excluding group details. All active and passive abilities will be revealed, but for the sake of brevity, the first post will only contain a catchy role name and link to the actual Role PM.

While alive, players don't know their catchy role name.

Claim: Jack-of-All-Trades

Unvote, Vote: Mufasa

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If he has a bunch of one-shots, I'm assuming that he's assuming it's safe enough to call himself a Jack of all trades.

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Reveal: Upon death, I will post the full Role PM of the dead player, including group memberships, excluding group details. All active and passive abilities will be revealed, but for the sake of brevity, the first post will only contain a catchy role name and link to the actual Role PM.

While alive, players don't know their catchy role name.

Claim: Jack-of-All-Trades

Unvote, Vote: Mufasa

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If he has a bunch of one-shots, I'm assuming that he's assuming it's safe enough to call himself a Jack of all trades.

Ok, Caboose is scum.

...and why's that?

Just because I bring up a valid point?

Just assuming Mufasa is scum, why the hell would he come out second post and claim? And don't just say "WIFOM" either.

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Caboose following the policy vote on alvinz is weak sauce.

It's not like I don't have a reason.

So it is a policy vote then? Please make up your mind.

No, it's not a policy vote. It's a pressure vote. But it's failing since no one is wagoning.

More alvinz wagon.

Trust me, it'll be worth it.

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Do you mean this one:

Where's the Jailkeeper? Another "mistake?"

If Mufasa doesn't have a one-shot vig, he obviously doesn't have the role in the sample.

Again, I think everyone is hung up on a rigid definition of "JoAT". When Mufasa is claiming JoAT, I just think that he means he has a bunch of one-shot abilities.

That's not to say that there isn't the possibility that Mufasa is lying. Also, even if Mufasa does have the ability, that doesn't necessarily make him town.

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This is true.

But, as Seraphim should know, I'm not a really big fan of LAL, though it's hard to rationalize why a pro-town player would lie in this situation.

It's also really hard to rationalize why scum would lie in this situation.

Fine, I might be up for a Mufasa lynch, but first, alvinz wagon.

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1. Caboose is town, and a 'tard at the same time.

Thanks.

He's trying to stay under the radar, the best scumtell in all of mafiascum,

Well, he failed at that.

Still keeping my vote, and encouraging more.

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Clearly I said OGB was scumtarded.

Yeah, because OGB is the easy target.

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Clearly I said OGB was scumtarded.

So has everyone else. What are your thoughts on the rest of the game outside of those three?

I would like alvinz to answer this.

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Caboose, is there anyone else you see as suspicious other than alvinz.

Yes. skitzer

I generated a lot of misunderstanding yesterday. Let me rectify the situation.

I have role based information that skitzer is scum and yesterday, I had role based information that alvinz is scum.

May we please lynch one of those today and the other tomorrow?

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I would really prefer that we didn't lynch Alvinz without even hearing a claim (even if

some

people seem to think that's scummy). Caboose may have had "role based" info on Alvinz on Day 1, but he didn't vote for Alvinz initially, and today, he hasn't voted for either of the people he's supposed to have info. on. So, I still have questions.

I was seeing which wagon would build first: skitzer or alvinz.

Can I drop the hammer now, or does anyone insist on an alvinz claim?

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Darn! I hate millers.

tubby's either godfather or town.

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Vote: darkdude

That last post gave me no reason to believe Darkdude is town.

Caboose, who do you plan on investigating tonight?

Why do you want to know? So you can frame him/her?

FoS: Seraphim

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Please look at the roles. There is no framer ability.

Do you want to throw any more bullshit accusations my way?

There also wasn't a "multitasker" ability.

I have a gun, alright? I just can't use it yet. If Caboose is a gunsmith(which is still possible), then I will come up guilty.

Vote: Seraphim

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Let's go back to the alvinz wagon yesterday.

I don't exactly trust Caboose yet, but I always like it when people put themselves out there, so let's rock.

He questions my claim, but he still votes. Bussing?

Godfather flip heavily implies investigative role(s). Surprise!

Rolefish
+scumpoints for ekiM

There is a strong Howard/alvinz connection. alvinz' 414 post, other than being OMGUS, seems to damn Howard more than Caboose, but he votes Caboose and not Howard. Distancing probable.

I agree.
+scumpoints for Howard

Alvinz's post-hammer post seems town.

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X didn't unvote before voting so let's hope that wasn't the actual hammer.

+lots of russian mafia points for darkdude

Unvote

Vote: darkdude

More later...

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Howard is godfather or town.

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17. HowardRoark - Innocent result on him, hum. Are we really looking at two godfathers in italians, or 4 russians all with power roles including two extra NKs? Thinking this result may be accurate.

You're neglecting possibility of an SK?

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QFT. As for why he isn't dead yet, tajo, that's a pretty stupid question. Tubby was protecting him up until now. Any intention to lynch Caboose right now, especially the way you're trying to twist things in 689, is likely scum doing some damage control before it's too late.

This, I agree with.

me thinks a town cop would at least want to be less obvious about his guilty result even in day 1, like you know, trying to not get night killed by the mafia partners of the guilty result you have or like, you know, trying to get another result.

I was trying to get more results, but I wanted to breadcrumb aggressively enough to where alvinz would get lynched if I got NKed N1.
I'm not sorry if it didn't meet your standards.

If Caboose still isn't dead tomorrow, I'm willing to consider his lynch, considering that there is no protective masonship and no protective JOAT anymore.

This, I don't agree with, and it bothers me.

Korts trying to set up a chain lynch + the fact that there was no Italian kill on night 2 (when Korts was blocked) bothers me.

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I see some things that fit and share.

It also fits that you're scum that's trying to a) get a mislynch and b) avoiding a cop investigation at the same time.

Tajo or Korts seem the most scummy to me.
I will vote later, when I have more time to post.

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Sorry I haven't posted, haven't had much time.
I'll post sometime this weekend.