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Post Post #12 (isolation #0) » Sun May 10, 2009 4:01 pm

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vote andycyca


because I've never seen him.
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Post Post #21 (isolation #1) » Mon May 11, 2009 5:29 am

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unvote, vote ortolan


For the totally OMGUS vote on Sudo.
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Post Post #45 (isolation #2) » Wed May 13, 2009 6:33 am

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@Orto- the word quicklynch shouldn't happen on day one unless its got the word don't somewhere nearby.
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Post Post #47 (isolation #3) » Wed May 13, 2009 12:27 pm

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Except of course that Empking neither wants to quicklynch nor is the quicklynch, so that logic doesn't carry.
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Post Post #104 (isolation #4) » Tue May 19, 2009 6:03 am

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No need to prod. I'm here and reading along, just haven't drawn any conclusions yet.
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Post Post #151 (isolation #5) » Sat May 23, 2009 12:12 am

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Going back to re-read later. I'll post something of substance then.
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Post Post #165 (isolation #6) » Sat May 23, 2009 8:27 am

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Eh, KMD is always arrogant. Problem is sometimes he's right, so I can't fault him for it.
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Post Post #193 (isolation #7) » Wed May 27, 2009 9:47 am

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Sorry life got hectic on me. Give me a few hours to try and collect my thoughts. Will have content by tomorrow at the latest.
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Post Post #256 (isolation #8) » Fri May 29, 2009 11:24 am

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Work sucks. Will post when I get home tonight.
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Post Post #276 (isolation #9) » Sat May 30, 2009 6:28 am

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Skipping to the end so I can weigh on this, then I'll go back and re-read Zazie vs. Orto.

OMGUS ****IS***** a scum tell. Is it a home run scum tell? No. Newbies do it a lot and so do marginal to bad mafia players. However, it is a scum tell in the fact that town players shouldn't assume that the person who builds a case on them must be scum. I'm all for someone defending against a case made on them and if they happen to present a counter attack that's founded on logic and reason and backed up with evidence then I'm more willing to to see the accused in a townie light. Its easy to say "Well I'm a townie, so if Pookie is attacking me he must be against the town." That's essentially OMGUS in a nutshell and its also craplogic, which is *another* scum tell. So yes, when I see OMGUS, I'll attack the player using it every time.

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Post Post #285 (isolation #10) » Sun May 31, 2009 8:39 am

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@Orto- have I voted you? Then you're probably not exhibiting anything I consider a scum tell at this point.
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Post Post #288 (isolation #11) » Sun May 31, 2009 9:08 am

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that's what I get for posting from work without my notes.

@Orto- Am I voting you? Then you're probably exhibiting something I consider a scum tell.

fixed.
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Post Post #293 (isolation #12) » Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:21 pm

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I agree with both of the above.

BTW- what does this mean?

"Shadow Knight is being typically useful and attentive. So many scummy people, so little time."
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Post Post #322 (isolation #13) » Fri Jun 05, 2009 3:06 am

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For those of us who have to read in snippets at work, can it NOT be in wall o text form when you do reply? I spend my whole break reading and don't have much time to post. /rant

I'll try to log in from home over the weekend.
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Post Post #401 (isolation #14) » Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:32 am

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Ok. Sorry all, should have time this evening to do my re-read and post. Summer classes started and work is kicking my ass. Don't want to be replaced though, so please bear with me.
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Post Post #441 (isolation #15) » Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:11 am

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Sorry folks. Lost this game in the shuffle. Only working for a few hours today and swear to god I will either provide content or ask for a replacement by tomorrow night. (Highly dependent on how much homework I can get done tonight.)
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Post Post #511 (isolation #16) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:47 pm

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Ok, first I want to apologize for my inactivity yesterday. Second, I wanted to say that I used the night to catch up. Am I the only one who feels that Orangepenguin comes across incredibly wishy washy in his posts?
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Post Post #561 (isolation #17) » Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:31 pm

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@OP- is that what you call contributing more?

My thoughts right now are that Ort is SK, with OP and KMD as scum. The backstep by KMD about Ort's actual alignment makes me think he's scum covering his butt.
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Post Post #583 (isolation #18) » Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:29 am

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@KMD- ignore that part of my last post. After re-reading that following a good nights sleep, it doesn't look anywhere near as weird as it did before.

@OP- more is a relative term. technically, I have MORE money than the homeless dude I saw on the way to work, but when I've only got a nickel in my pocket, that doesn't mean much.
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Post Post #601 (isolation #19) » Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:50 am

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I was hoping for more information. I don't see the point in rushing a lynch and I wanted to hear from everyone before the lynch.
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Post Post #617 (isolation #20) » Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:14 pm

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4th of July. I'll be back Sunday or Monday.
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Post Post #646 (isolation #21) » Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:46 am

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@Empking- there is absolutely no reason why OP should have to fully claim. I agree that OP revealing his ability when he did and the way he did was extremely protown and as such he can possibly catch scum in a fake claim. Even a small chance that this can happen shouldn't be thrown away. I'd like to hear a concise reason why you think it will help the town for him to claim or I'll be voting you.
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Post Post #650 (isolation #22) » Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:01 pm

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vote empking


the disadvantage is that he could counter claim someone and if he claims, we lose that possibility.

there is NO advantage to him claiming now.

I can only think you're scum that got caught slinging craplogic.
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Post Post #674 (isolation #23) » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:50 am

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Jesus Christ, watching Empking's rebuttals are like watching a retard try out for mensa. Your points don't make sense. When the everyone else thinks you're speaking gibberish and you think you're writing Shakespearean sonnets, its not everyone else who's insane.
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Post Post #712 (isolation #24) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:17 am

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unvote


Although I agree with Tony. I'm not letting a claim of mason with no discernable backup coast to the endgame. After all, without a partner claiming, there is no way for us to know that he's mod confirmed to his partner or not. I've seen games where scum was partnered with town.
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Post Post #721 (isolation #25) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:16 am

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Does your role specifically confirm that your half-orc mason partner is townie? If not please PM the mod for confirmation and report back to us whether you can guarantee that your alleged mason partner is town.
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Post Post #785 (isolation #26) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:45 am

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Sorry folks, got busy at work over the past couple days. Just caught back up again. My thoughts on Emp? I voted him before for his behavior regarding the flavor claims and then unvoted pending further developments and hearing from his mason partner. When his mason partner shows up, its to tell us that he's been misrepping their conversations. Its too early in the game for Dizzy to be lying about that, so I'm back to thinking Empking is the lynch for today. I'll do the hammering if no one else does, but I want to make sure we give everyone a chance to speak before we end the day.
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Post Post #794 (isolation #27) » Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:27 am

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I agree that Izzy is town based on Empking having no reason to lie. I don't have good reads on anyone in this game, so I'm going to go back and see who OP was suspicious of.
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Post Post #802 (isolation #28) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:22 am

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Judging by the flavor, I'd say I was targetted for killing last night and survived?
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Post Post #826 (isolation #29) » Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:38 am

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Yeah, but there really isn't anything that would cause us to think you're not cleared in this case. A townie claimed that you were mod confirmed town. Seems pretty open and shut to me. Granted, being confirmed doesn't do much beyond put a target on your back. I have to admit, I'm somewhat lost as far as what direction to go in.
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Post Post #829 (isolation #30) » Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:39 am

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@Goat- what is the case on Tony?
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Post Post #832 (isolation #31) » Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:26 pm

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While I can't say a whole lot about the lurking, I have to agree that the vote before getting his bearings posts seems odd.

@ mod- can we get a prod on Tony?


@Tony- care to explain/defend?
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Post Post #834 (isolation #32) » Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:15 am

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Bump.
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Post Post #836 (isolation #33) » Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:40 am

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How could you be suspicious of kmd before you got your bearings?
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Post Post #844 (isolation #34) » Fri Jul 31, 2009 8:55 am

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Tony reads too much like scum who's trying to fast talk his way out of the noose. I'm good with a Tony lynch today.
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Post Post #857 (isolation #35) » Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:08 am

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I'm fine with a mass claim, but I think Tony should go first, followed by me, then we assign an order randomly by dice roll in thread.
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Post Post #860 (isolation #36) » Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:51 am

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I'll claim my role only then we'll talk about who should claim next and how much. Deal?
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Post Post #863 (isolation #37) » Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:06 am

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@CDB- I don't recall nominating a king.

I'm a tracker. Does that satisfy you, Tony?
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Post Post #865 (isolation #38) » Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:16 am

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Fine, fine. I'm impatient to hear from Tony, and fighting just gives him more time to make up a good fake claim.

I'm Wood Elves. I targeted Orange Penguin night 1 and got no result. Night 2 I targetted KMD and saw that he targetted CDB. Last night I targetted Tony and apparently got beaten to a pulp. Since I had previously gotten no result without bruises on Orange Penguin, I'm pretty sure the beating had to do with Tony's role, not me being blocked.

Tony. You're up.
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Post Post #867 (isolation #39) » Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:18 am

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Wow. Talk about sarnath'd.
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Post Post #869 (isolation #40) » Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:20 am

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I feel pretty confident that Tony's going to have a hard time coming up with a plausible reason why I was beaten for following him anyway. You can see why I'm pretty freaking sure he's scum.
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Post Post #876 (isolation #41) » Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:22 pm

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@Dizzy- what do you mean? I think I was pretty freaking straightforward with my claim once I gave in.

@Tony- I don't know that I believe this claim. You're an un-nightkillable, self-watcher? Comparatively speaking, if this role is real, its blatantly anti-town. How many targetting roles do mosts towns normally have vs. scum. Its *built* to out power roles.
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Post Post #969 (isolation #42) » Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:58 am

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I'm not targetting Tony tonight. I hate to throw this monkey wrench into everyone's plans, but I'm not scum. Goat or CDB must be scum with Zazie. I say we lynch Zazie and go to night. That leaves 5 players alive. Me, Goat, Tony, CDB, and Dizzy. I don't think there are 3 scum left regardless of whether there are 1 or 2 factions, because if there were, then the 3 scum could simply agree to share vicotry over the town and the game would be over.

The scum will want to leave me alive so they can lead the mislynch against me tomorrow. They can't target Tony because even if he's lying about being un-nightkillable, he'd probably still mark whoever targetted him. Dizzy is confirmed town. That means the remaining scum has to be either Goat or CDB.
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Post Post #973 (isolation #43) » Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:03 am

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Oh, and I meant to say this earlier, but there is a difference between "no one targetted so-and-so" and "no result". I got "no result" on OP. I targetted KMD because I wanted to know who he targetted (aka who he was suspicious of). He chose CDB.
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Post Post #977 (isolation #44) » Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:08 am

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It makes no sense to agree to this plan. I want to catch scum. I think the last scum is among CDB and goat. I'm going to watch CDB or goat tonight. either I see who makes a kill tonight or the other one did. *That* makes sense. It also forces the scum to kill me tonight instead of pushing a mislynch against me tomorrow. Its insane for me to waste my ability getting beaten down again when I could be catching scum.
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Post Post #979 (isolation #45) » Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:14 am

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Actually, Tony's PLAY overrides what I think about his ROLE. Speculating on his role is gaming the mod and doesn't accomplish anything. It matters to me who a claimed cop is targetting, as I'm a tracker and cop could be a ballsy (if unlikely) false claim. He was my only lead at the time, so I watched him.
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Post Post #981 (isolation #46) » Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:17 am

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vote ZazieR
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Post Post #1015 (isolation #47) » Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:59 am

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I reserved the right to call "no joy". I even tried to float the idea that the mafias share the victory, but no one wanted to listen.
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Post Post #1017 (isolation #48) » Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:10 am

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I figured there was no way for me to win, so I might as well shoot Goat. Once Zazie came up Elven mafia, I was a dead man.
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Post Post #1026 (isolation #49) » Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:11 pm

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Because I was tracking every night trying to find PR's and Zazie was using the spell every night (I thought). What exactly happened with that every night??
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Post Post #1035 (isolation #50) » Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:18 am

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The first night was a ploy to unbalance the town if I recall correctly. After that, we were just content to let the other team make the kills. I was hoping to be able to hand over a scum and get myself confirmed at townie tracker.
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