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OMG SOCCERHATE IS NOT BEING GOOD FOR THE MORALE OF WHAT I HAVE LOVINGLY DUBBED "TEAM RETARD"dahill1 wrote:vote Jdodge
god i can't wait for when we mix up the teams
GO TEAM RETARD-
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Who do you want to be project manager, what are your opinions on their qualifications, etc.ZazieR wrote: You do?! This is something I don't hear that much.
Uhm sure... Is there anything specifics you want to hear?
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I think we have a reasonable chance of taking this one home - I think their flash presentation is probably far too over-done, and I think their name is rather awful. Thanks to Cayke for supplying me with both for my consideration.ShadowLurker wrote:JDodge, do you think you won? Who do you think was the strongest and weakest member of your team?
The strongest member of my team was easily +; he came up with the name Virgo, as well as finding the font for our logo. The weakest was most definitely Max. He did nothing but complain and contributed absolutely nothing. Honorable mentions for that spot include Zazie, who did nothing, and pacman, who wanted us to name our team "Ponzi".-
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I'm willing to take another go at PM if you'll have me; alternatively I'd like to suggest + (as he was the key contributor to the last challenge) or Max (put up or shut up).-
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It's as punchy and pithy as a dead rhinocerous, folks!farside22 wrote:First slogan
More experienced, but still kicking--unlike xyzzy!
For those who have not been to the site or don't know xyzzy was a mod who has flaked on a few games. This slogan also incorporates the team name.
ITT farside needs to buy a dictionaryfarside wrote:
Forever Young, Always Dreaming
This is just a saying not a slogan. Are you young and just dreaming? It's there more to youth then this?-
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way to not know our option before voting, oh teammate of ours! glad to see you're available to contribute shit all to the general effort again.animorpherv1 wrote:Spamming is bad. That's why I never spam unlike some people*cough*JDodge*cough*-
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have you been checked for major brain abnormalities?animorpherv1 wrote:
It was night, and Im was sleeping when you chose it. It's not my fault that I didn't see it untill I looked in this thread.JDodge wrote:
way to not know our option before voting, oh teammate of ours! glad to see you're available to contribute shit all to the general effort again.animorpherv1 wrote:Spamming is bad. That's why I never spam unlike some people*cough*JDodge*cough*-
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i never posted it, look before you speak you cowfarside22 wrote:
I'm talking about the aim stuff that JD just postedanimorpherv1 wrote:@ farside; I meant this post:
PokerFace wrote:<<Was pmed or imed by 7 different scummers who asked PF to vote for their slogan.
3 supported one slogan 3 supported another and 1 just suggested I should choose whichever I think is best nicely.
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This is a tough question. I can see a case for PEG if he isn't really doing much. I can see a case for farside/Sens as my sources tell me they came up with the slogan (but mostly farside, as i heard she was part of the "Still Kicking Mob" fiasco as well), but I can see a better case for Korts for knowing that the slogan was shit and not overruling his team. The other person I can see a case for is Cayke, solely because she gave me so much info about their stuff last task, and then voted with our shared alts this task and blamed it on me, which is just completely devoid of class. I did not vote with my alts - that would have made it a 92 vote victory.ShadowLurker wrote:JDodge, who do you think I should fire from the other team?
All in all, I'd say Korts for knowing it was a terrible slogan and then just allowing it by majority rule. He should have put his foot down and had the balls to reject the idea.-
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I actually had Drench working with me IIRC. Sorry I forgot to tell you.Eteocles wrote:For the rest... I'd have liked it if Ani spent more time rallying votes and less time arguing about the task. And for all I know, ZazieR and Drench were MIA, so I can't say anything good about their performance unfortunately.-
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Translation: I rushed it, and thought of my own sense of humour over marketability.Korts wrote:Mr. Trump, I think what went wrong is that I made a hurried decision when I realized there was a 24 hour deadline. The creative process wasn't exactly complete, not to speak of the fact that in retrospect going for humour over corniness was something we shouldn't have done. But I thought the deadline was stricter than it apparently was, so I submitted what we had there and then.-
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yeah right, if i must say one good thing about cyb it's that he's quite tight-lippedCayke wrote:And I got this from someone I will keep unnamed.Jon Kelley wrote:EDIT: I've got a bit of a rapport going with Cybele - I'm trying to get as much information about what they're doing as possible.
Yes, she was. She leaked firstly the fact that they were making a flash, then she leaked the team name, then she leaked the flash itself. Then she lied.ShadowLurker wrote:JDodge, was crywolf leaking information? What specifically did she leak and do you have logs to back it up?
EDIT: Unfortunately, logging on the computer where the leaking occured is not functioning properly, so no.-
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I agree fully, and want this to happen ASAP. Now is our chance to become a fresh, new company and turn around our previous disastrous record; so, let's start with revamping our image.Panzerjager wrote:I vote EagleEye and use the orignal banner.-
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Yes, considering our best score was near $320, and from their quicktopic (the one I set up for them that they're still using), their best was a $78.28 by Max.ShadowLurker wrote:JDodge, do you think you won? Why were there only four submissions?
The reason why there were only four submissions is that we were using a tiered submission process. PEG was to submit first, then me, then Panzer, then Sens and Cayke. I left for a while at around 12:45 PM, which was when Cayke was to submit her score. She was on AIM at the time, she did not have to leave until 3:30. I reminded her. She failed to submit anyways. KMD was told to submit as well after 1 PM, and he also failed to be online. Farside was unable to load the task and thus unable to complete it. If we did lose, I will likely be bringing Cayke and KMD back to the boardroom with me.-
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Mr. Trump, allow me to add to this statement. On a message on the Virgo quicktopic dated 3/31/09 at 10:44 PM ET, Drench made the following statement:Drench wrote:
I heard nothing from + throughout the whole challenge, and I didn't really see any leadership from him, nor any effects leadership from him would have caused. In this situation, I think + didn't do as well as what we needed.Drench, was + an effective leader? Why did you not submit?
As for the second part of the question, a combination of time, circumstance and (unfortunately) sheer procrastination led to non-submission from me.
So his time excuse is a crock. It does not take that long to upload a screenshot and PM it.Drench wrote:Final Income: $299.43
Final Expenses: $237.75
Liquidated Inventory Value: $3.62
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WellKmd4390 and crywolf20084, why did you not submit?
I didn't realize the deadline was today. I thought I had til tomorrow to submit, and I wanted to do one more round.
Even if you didn't know when the deadline is, you still disobeyed a direct order from your project manager.JD's Scumchat Logs wrote: [12:25:04 PM] *** crywolf20084 has joined the chat.
[12:25:14 PM] crywolf20084: Hello
[12:25:20 PM] jdodge1019: HI CAYKE
[12:25:40 PM] jdodge1019: IN ABOUT 35 MINUTES
[12:25:43 PM] jdodge1019: SUBMIT FOR APPRENTICE
[12:25:44 PM] jdodge1019: K-
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You are a liar and deserve to be fired immediately. When I was with Virgo, you did pretty much jack shit the entire time then too.animorpherv1 wrote:
I played the game when I got the time. I wasn't a big fan of uploading the picture, as it would only be used that once (altough it was a good idea on Mr. Trump's part).SensFan wrote:
Excuse me Mr.Trump, but unless I am much mistaken, animorph posted 13 times on the site between the start and end of the challenge.animorpherv1 wrote:I wasn't here for 2 days furing the challenge, so I didn't know about it, and I almost never upload my stuff on to the computer, before anyone blames me. Also, Not here on the 16th.-
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1. First task, you showed up and said "i'm not contributing." You then showed up and suggested the name "Juvenescense", citing that neither Growth nor Virgo were "good enough". I shot it down, citing that yours sounded like a shitty mainstream goth metal band. You spent the rest of the task whining.Max wrote:I would like to make the following statement in the event I get taken into the board room:
We did not hear from our project manager throughout the task. Therefore + was not a good manager
Animorpherv1 should be fired, for obvious reasons, profit of $5 is really poor, in 7 days he should easily have been able to make a profit of $20
I should not be fired because I gave the highest score and because in the last few hours I tried to rally around to get as many additional entries as possible
2. Second task, you contributed jack shit and complained all the way.
3. Third task, you string together your best effort, which still fucking sucks. Hint: I hit that on my first 7-day game. You then spent the rest of the time complaining.
Animo I agree on.
+ is a terrible person to fire; there was not much to do as project manager this task except coordinate when things were sent in. He excelled and pretty much won the entire task for us last time single-handedly. You know, the one that you contributed jack shit to except changing your sig as if anyone gives enough of a shit to read your posts.
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Well, I was trying to be nice there, but the real reason I said what I said is because I feel you're a bit of an egomaniacal jackass most of the time. I like how you missed the end part of that conversation:SensFan wrote:In the interests of openess:
[18:49] SensPizzaLine: Are you implying I haven't "put up" in Apprentice?
[18:49] jdodge1019: no
[18:50] SensPizzaLine: k
[18:50] jdodge1019: i'm implying that you'd be the sort of person who it would be hilarious to see try to be PM
[18:50] jdodge1019: which would give me the best advantage
[18:50] SensPizzaLine: So you don't think I can do it, is what you're saying?
[18:50] jdodge1019: no not really
[18:50] jdodge1019: i think if you do do it it'll be on the backs of your team
[18:50] SensPizzaLine: Well, I respect your opinion.
[18:50] jdodge1019: and you'll take credit for you anyways
[06:52:36 PM] senspizzaline: Wow. You really don't respect me then, do you?
[06:52:42 PM] jdodge1019: i respect you
[06:52:53 PM] jdodge1019: i just think you've got too domineering a personality for this
[06:53:04 PM] senspizzaline: Fair enough.
[06:53:25 PM] senspizzaline: Though you may note I took full responsibility for my choices and actions as PM in RSX.
[06:53:32 PM] jdodge1019: yes
[06:53:49 PM] jdodge1019: but that was an example
[06:53:54 PM] jdodge1019: of where you actually did all the work
[06:54:06 PM] senspizzaline: But I gave full credit to Panzer and PEG.
[06:54:12 PM] senspizzaline: For the importance they had.
[06:54:19 PM] senspizzaline: But whatever.
[06:54:30 PM] senspizzaline: I hope I will have your support during the task.
[06:54:37 PM] jdodge1019: of course you will
[06:54:43 PM] jdodge1019: i wouldn't turn my back on my own team
Where you doubt my commitment to the team, probably because you feel I have some sort of grudge against you, and say that "well, I take full responsibility for my actions!" when we had the gigantic conversation over me daring to say that ShadowGirl not contributing when she was clearly around and looking for direction could ever possibly be the project manager's fault.-
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Never said I didn't think we could win. How about less bitchy and more focus-on-the-tasky, since that's the winning formula that's gotten me a 2-0 record as project manager?Sens wrote:If you don't think I'm a good choice for Project Manager, you're more than welcome to feel that way. But I would have thought if you supported the team you wouldn't have supported the choosing of a PM that you don't think can win. You even admit yourself that you supported me for PM for selfish reasons related to me failing.-
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Somewhat. I feel that Sens did an OK job of coordinating; I feel that the team as a whole sort of refused to participate in the majority of the task, but I don't think Sens was pushing people enoughShadowLurker wrote:JDodge, you have expressed doubts as shown in thread about SensFan. Did this task change your opinion?toparticipate.
Unfortunately, my fears that Sens would become only slightly less dictatorial and iron-fisted than Mussolini were well-founded, as he quickly became one of the most egotistical and insufferable people I have ever worked for. Half of the time he was bitching about how "nobody was participating", and the rest of the time he was telling us that our work wasn't good enough and otherwise complaining.
For example, I spent the majority of the task working with Cayke on the riddles. We both agreed that Sens was becoming the biggest douche in the world throughout the task, and so frustratedly when Sens was going to screw up one of the submissions, she said he was being fucking retarded. He then attacked her for doing "shit all" when she'd helped me with half of my contributions. In the meantime, he completely let farside, Panzer and PEG slide by while doing nothing.
This is an example of the egotism that we had to put up with throughout the task, and honestly, he's the biggest problem on this team right now. Last task, he IM'd me early on with a score of like... $120 iirc. He said "I'm sending this in now", to which I had to yell at him to stop. Even when he's not in charge, he has that stubborn need to ignore the authority in charge and do things his own way. That needs to stop.
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I would rather you seem like you're making an effort to get people to participate. You can't just say "oh I PM'd them once" and then argue that you actually got them working.SensFan wrote:
I called them out in the QT, in addition to PMing everyone to come to the QT. What more do you want from me, JDodge? To go knock on people's doors?JDodge wrote:Somewhat. I feel that Sens did an OK job of coordinating; I feel that the team as a whole sort of refused to participate in the majority of the task, but I don't think Sens was pushing people enoughtoparticipate.
You were contributing. You were important insofar that you were Project Manager. And I did say at one point that your attitude was really starting to piss me off.Sens wrote:
Funny how you never mentioned that to me during the entire challenge, isn't it? In fact, and I regret that I don't have the log, as the challenge was starting, you told me how you and I were by far the most contributing and important members of the team.JDodge wrote:Unfortunately, my fears that Sens would become only slightly less dictatorial and iron-fisted than Mussolini were well-founded, as he quickly became one of the most egotistical and insufferable people I have ever worked for.
You were privately bitching to me that nobody was participating while not actively getting people to participate. In the meantime, you refuse to tackle the fact that you continually put down our work in order to tout your own accomplishments. Way to show your self-absorption, Sens.Sens wrote:
What about the time when I was coming up with 2 of the 4 riddle submissions? What about the HOURS I put into solving the riddles? Also, now you are bitching that I spent too much time bitching how no one was participating, when just a minute ago you said I wasn't pushing people enough to participate. Which one is it?JDodge wrote:Half of the time he was bitching about how "nobody was participating", and the rest of the time he was telling us that our work wasn't good enough and otherwise complaining.
You still nearly screwed it up.Sens wrote:
Nope. I never said I was going to submit that (which was WRONG anyways, though that's irrelevant, I suppose). Farside asked me which riddles had been solved, so I posted 2-3 words about each of the solved riddles, and summed up that one with "114=14 in 100". If you are interested, I submitted VERY detailed and explained answers.JDodge wrote:For example, I spent the majority of the task working with Cayke on the riddles. We both agreed that Sens was becoming the biggest douche in the world throughout the task, and so frustratedly when Sens was going to screw up one of the submissions, she said he was being fucking retarded.
That's nice. It still showed that you're egotistical and can't take it when anyone would dare to question you.sens wrote:
When me summing up the riddle was called "fucking retarded", yes I did quickly, on the spur of the moment, reply that she hadn't done shit all, since she really hadn't done all that much IN THE QT. In fact, as soon as is was brought to my attention, by you, that she had been helping you a lot, I responded that "I didn't know that, Dodge. I just saw someone that hasn't posted much in-thread coming in and critisizing a quick summary I made of the questions we had solved." Later that night, I felt really bad for what I had done, and offered a full apology to cayke.JDodge wrote:He then attacked her for doing "shit all" when she'd helped me with half of my contributions.
I want more than just a simple "oh well" and throwing up your hands. I want you on their ass constantly until they get themselves going. I have two wins as project manager because I was constantly getting my team involved and telling them that they were going to participate whether they like it or not. You have one loss because you failed to do so.Sens wrote:
After you and I are the only ones that even ATTEMPTED to come up with riddles, I called everyone else out. Again, what more do you want from me, Dodge?JDodge wrote:In the meantime, he completely let farside, Panzer and PEG slide by while doing nothing.
You are the second-most productive on the team. You are also the biggest problem on the team. The two are not mutually exclusive. And yes, I did dictate exactly who could submit and when because the task required it. Would you rather I have just let everyone submit whenever the hell they wanted and end up like Virgo with a $5 submission for the triple?Sens wrote:
Really? Earlier, as the task was starting, you told me we were the most productive on the team. And even if you happen to think I was controlling as PM, was that not allowable, given that my ass is on the line if we lose? I mean, you pretty much dictated exactly who could submit when last time, and no one complained then.JDodge wrote:This is an example of the egotism that we had to put up with throughout the task, and honestly, he's the biggest problem on this team right now.
You were still insubordinate, which is the point.Sens wrote:
Yes, I did. As I explained to you, I misread the challenge, and thought that it was the first, second, etc... OVERALL to get the increased points. I also had forgotten we had a tribe QT. And forgive me, but you didn't need to "yell at me." You told me I shouldn't, and I immediately said ok, I didn't argue.JDodge wrote:Last task, he IM'd me early on with a score of like... $120 iirc. He said "I'm sending this in now", to which I had to yell at him to stop.
Because we won that task.Sens wrote:
Again, we talked about this at the last challenge. And if this really bothered you all that much, why wasn't this brought up then?JDodge wrote:Even when he's not in charge, he has that stubborn need to ignore the authority in charge and do things his own way.
I don't want you fired, but you quite conveniently left this out:Sens wrote:
Telling me privately would have accomplished the same thing, you know. Especially since we've talked about half of this, and you privately told me OTHER things about the other half.JDodge wrote:That needs to stop.
Oh, and for extra hypocrisy:
[23:09] SensPizzaLine: So I saw your post in the BR
[23:09] jdodge1019: it's nothing personal, just my thoughts on your management style
[23:10] SensPizzaLine: Can I ask why its a very different tune to when you flat-out told me you didn't want me fired privately
[23:10] SensPizzaLine: ?
[23:10] jdodge1019: i don't want you fired
[11:10:12 PM] senspizzaline: ?
[11:10:20 PM] jdodge1019: i don't want you fired
[11:10:26 PM] jdodge1019: but i'm not going to lie to protect you either
I would say I would be most happy if KMD were fired. I feel he screwed up this task, offered little help in solving the riddles aside from poor translation, and has done near-nothing the first three tasks.-
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Bullshit he did the majority of the work.Kmd4390 wrote:
Yes, Sens was a good PM. He did the majority of the work.ShadowLurker wrote:Kmd4390, was SensFan a good Project Manager? Who would you fire?Idid the majority of the work.I'mthe one who came up with two of the riddles, plus a brilliant one that Sens fucked up the submission of.I'mthe one who caught your translation error, as well as solving a couple of riddles (albeit I did read my hex number chart wrong; my C in the C answer was right if you convert the hex to base-8). You are also completely ignoring Sens' cavalier and confrontational attitude towards the rest of the team as well as his egotism and self-absorption. Tell you what, next task, I want you to be PM. I'm tired of you skating by and doing nothing but protecting your little buddies.
Panzer is always limited access on weekends. PEG was out at a concert and whatnot. What's your excuse for the first two tasks again?KMD wrote:I'd fire PEG or Panzer as they did next to nothing.
Anyone can translate with google, and as usual your submissions came far too late. You're never there when we actually need you.KMD wrote:To respond to JD, I offered a pretty good riddle (although Sens had already submitted, which we didn't know yet). I translated everything with google. And I worked on the riddles to the best of my ability.
IT IS PRETTY OBVIOUS THATKMD wrote:The reason he is calling me "an idiot" is because part of the translation came back wrong. I fail to see how that's my fault. I translated with google language tools and directly copied and pasted straight to the QT. If he had a better translation, he should have posted it.
IS NOT THE SAME ASCiento catorce = C en el C
Explain HOW the "in the C" magically jumps to the other side of the equal sign.KMD's translation wrote:One hundred and fourteen in the C = C-
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But you said majority, and you're still ignoring the fact of Sens' attitude entirely.Kmd4390 wrote:I think it's pretty obvious Sens did a lot. Yes, so did you. But he definitely did a lot.
You're not committed enough for this.Kmd wrote:The first 2 tasks? Well, let's see. The first one, I was in Myrtle Beach with no internet access at all. And the second one, I was still catching up on mafia games. Mafia comes before Mish Mash.
And I told you it's COMMON SENSE that the in the C wouldn't jump across like that. So you can either be incompetent by not realizing that or too lazy to check your work for something. Take your pick.Kmd wrote:
I told you this on AIM. It came directly from google. Want me to type it in again and show you a screen shot?JDodge wrote: Explain HOW the "in the C" magically jumps to the other side of the equal sign.-
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Sorry where did I once say I blamed you? I said you, Panzer and peg slid by while doing nothing. This is the truth. Sens also never pushed for any of you to contribute, and frankly for someone with such limited access, you did a good amount of posting on the QT.farside22 wrote:
Why are you critisizing me for not helping but these 2 get a free pass for basically (at least as far as PJ goes) has the same excuse as me?Panzer is always limited access on weekends. PEG was out at a concert and whatnot. What's your excuse for the first two tasks again?-
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No. At first, he did seem a bit nonchalant, but once he hit his stride he did a pretty good job. Farside or pacman should definitely be fired after this task.ShadowLurker wrote:JDodge, you said Kmd4390 should be fired last task. Do you still think that after seeing him as Project Manager?-
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Nope. We had a horrific concept that Max came up with and decided to go with before anyone even had the chance to weigh in, I was away at work all weekend and didn't have the time nor the energy to come rushing in at the last minute and save our asses like I have in tasks prior. Meanwhile, Cayke worked on the task alone while iamausername and kmd remained useless. I've noticed that KMD only steps up when it's his ass on the line.ShadowLurker wrote:JDodge, did you guys even have a finished advertisement?-
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Excuse me?Kmd4390 wrote:Fair enough.
Thought "last challenge" meant the one we just finished. That was why I was confused. The QT was just so dead in this one that not much really happened. I wouldn't argue against either Max, Iam, or JD being fired. Preferably Max because JD has helped in other tasks and Iam is still new and may prove himself later.
You have the gall to say you'd have no problem with me being fired for being away for most of this task when I have a 2-0 record as PM, set you on the right track for your term as PM and have in general contributed more than anyone to every task we've had so far when all you've done is contribute jack shit except when your ass was on the line for it?
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So what? You brought me in to save your ass? You're bringing me back when you don't even think I was the worst putting my ass on the line to try and help you out?Max wrote:I don't expect you to get fired, that's why I brought you over Iam, I don't genuinely want or expect you to be fired
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So you're bringing me back because you want some muscle to throw KMD under the bus?Max wrote:No, if I was fighting for my own ass I would have brought back Iam, it would have been easier to get him fired than myself?-
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were max and iam smart, they would realize that us losing last task was a fluke - hence it makes most sense to reshuffle to better our chances of not getting picked off one by one.-
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Because quite simply I suck at chess - I even had a massive advantage but made one wrong move and screwed it up.ShadowLurker wrote:JDodge, why did you lose to dahill1? Was chess a bad decision to assign you on? Who should I fire?
It was a pretty bad decision to assign me to chess. Iam claims to have done research, but anyone researching would notice that I never had the patience to finish a game and I was always losing. He can't claim to have done research and overlook such a glaring fact. In fact, the only reason I was in the chess tournament to begin with was to fill out the field.
Either Iam or Prozac should be fired. Personally, I would say iam; his predecessor did nothing, and he honestly hasn't done anything worth mentioning. In the picture-finding task, he even supplied the tool which I used to find the majority of the images for the task. He was just too lazy to use it. Meanwhile, Porochaz has mostly been busy with other things and has a 1-0 record as Project Manager. I don't think one can have a 1-0 record and have it said they've done almost nothing for the team.-
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That was then, this is now. You have a 1-1 record now.iamausername wrote:
I was PM on the previous task, we won, so I had a 1-0 record at that time. So basically, you're completely contradicting yourself here.JDodge wrote:Personally, I would say iam; his predecessor did nothing, andhe honestly hasn't done anything worth mentioning. In the picture-finding task, he even supplied the tool which I used to find the majority of the images for the task. He was just too lazy to use it. Meanwhile, Porochaz has mostly been busy with other things and has a 1-0 record as Project Manager.I don't think one can have a 1-0 record and have it said they've done almost nothing for the team.
Yeah, but you were still too lazy to use your own tool. The only thing you weren't too lazy to do is reject one of my submissions for a lame reason.iam wrote:And as far as "too lazy to use it", that's just utter bullshit. You found four of the images using the tool that, as you say, I supplied (and without which, we would have had a lot fewer images to submit). I found two that I posted, plus one I rejected based on the assumption that the size of the images had to match (and that one was one of the four you found). I later found two more images in the right size that we'd already found in the wrong size. I made a wrong assumption, sure, but I was absolutely not lazy in that task.
You're still missing the point of "I suck at chess", which is also obvious to anyone who looks at those games.iam wrote:Jdodge wrote:I never had the patience to finish a game
Information that I did not have. There was nothing in the chess tournament thread to indicate that you didn't sign up purely because you wanted to, and your stated reason for dropping out was that you didn't have the time, not that you didn't have the interest. I don't see why I should have assumed you were lying.JDodge wrote:In fact, the only reason I was in the chess tournament to begin with was to fill out the field.
I would've swapped myself and Prozac, and you and +.iam wrote:Let me ask you, how do you think I should have assigned the games? How would you have done it?
But you still failed this task, which is the point. And quite frankly, you won the last task for two reasons:iam wrote:
I've also WON a task as PM. That was pretty useful, I think.Porochaz wrote:He has now failed a task as PM and honestly off the top of my head I cant think of anything useful he has done...
1. The other team failed to submit
2. I found most of the pictures
First of all, in business, you need to know the strengths of your employees to succeed. You need to be able to properly utilize them. You have proven yourself unable to do this.iam wrote:And, for the record, when he didn't post in this thread at all the day the tasks went up, I did send a PM to + to make sure that he was aware that the task had started. Beyond that, there really wasn't anything to do as a manager; this task was about individual skills, not the ability to work in a team. But I think I proved on the previous task that I can manage effectively when teamworkison the table.
Secondly, you didn't really prove you can manage effectively since we won after I ignored your orders and found over half the images on my own.-
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K. You're still going to be PM regardless of when the task starts.Porochaz wrote:Heh, I have my new laptop but my ex flatmate broke in and stole the internet and tv and ironically my old laptop. Ill be home (as in non uni home) on sunday with all brand spanking new internet so if the task wont start before then then I will accept Project Manager.-
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And I'm sick of you dodging responsibility because you're too busy.Porochaz wrote:Well, if your going to take that tone maybe you should be PM, because Im not going to be penalised for something I cant help and Im not going to put up with you when your in one of those moods.-
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Whine all you want, this team would be better with you gone anyways. Maybe we'd be able to get someone else who actually has the time to help us.Porochaz wrote:like you and mafia games then...-
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I find it amusing that you can't find anything to attack on my record in this game and you have to resort to personal accusations to try and get your point across.Porochaz wrote:Basis of one task, Ive been with you in. Hard to get on when you dont have a computer/internet and your moving out. So hey, judge me on that if you like... I just find it amusing that your complaining about my lack of activity in this game when you consistently fail with activity elsewhere on the site.-
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And I need to know your performance as PM.Porochaz wrote:Im taking which is true from elsewhere on the site because you are complaining about me being inactive when in the year and a half Ive been here I havent been replaced once in any game where you are known for being totally inactive in other games, its pot calling the kettle black. In this game sure you've been active, Im not trying to put you down here. I want to win this next task and I won't resort to trying to take you down before the task has actually started. I need to know your performance for the tasks that we have been in together. I have a thread to pull back from for everything else and Im sure Jathan can make reasoned desicions... I have my opinions of you in this game but I think its a better idea to focus on this next task rather than trying to take your other team members down. Hopefully it won't come to that.
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A few things firsthand. I woke up Wednesday morning to news that my closest friend had been admitted to the hospital with a collapsed lung, which through some complications I don't quite understand has lead to his other lung collapsing and him ending up in the ICU. I really think my disappearance is excusable.Porochaz wrote:Oh never mind. Cayke obviously has absolutely no idea what she is talking about. Based on previous experience I found Max to be decent. The others I dont know however I did find pickem to be fairly quiet and useless during at least one of the other tasks. As for this task, I did itallmyself. Wait thats not entirely true. JDodge didnt like the podium in the video so I took it out. The event planning was done entirely by me, the photos were done entirely by me.
JDodge made a reply early on, when I suggested the event stating a lot of what he didnt like but not really offering anything else. + made a reply about 40 minutes before I sent in what I did. Suggesting that we use "cute animals" instead. I was out in RL that night so when I came back and found nothing there to use I went with what was mostly my original idea and built the event off of that.
When I say JDodge and + did nothing during this task I really do mean nothing. Its also not like I didnt try, the quicktopic was made early on and I suggested my idea in the first post. I also sent out a reminder that I needed help early Friday morning when the quicktopic only had 2 posts by me and 1 by JDodge.
I dont know what the other 4 did, so I cant choose anyone out of them however my two "team"mates. 1 complained how I didnt do anything during the previous task, insisted that I be Project Manager, then did a miniscule amount. The other didnt turn up, up until after the deadline, posted some pictures about cute animals and suggest that the litost theme was crap and we should go with this instead. The members of my team were a joke and I would be happy with either of them going. If I had to choose between the two based on his previous performance I would save +. JDodge was definetly around, he complained so much at the beginning of the task about me not being around and then failed to give me any support during the task. I think JDodge should go.
Secondly, I feel that Porochaz did do all the work - However, I feel that he shut both myself and + out of the creative process, which is just simply bad leadership skills on his part. I feel he has continually shown a lack of commitment and an overall lack of teamwork. Furthermore, his saying that I should be fired is ludicrous and solely based on a need for revenge after I called him out during the project manager selection and he had to resort to personal attacks on my character.
This is difficult for me to answer, but I'd have to say Max's contributions as a whole have been overall the worst throughout the process, which is definitely a reason for him to be fired. While pickemgenius has been the least contributory, his contributions have been consistently on a much higher standard than Max's.JDodge, who do you think should be fired out of the entire 7 remaining for this task? Who of the entire 7 has done the least during this process as a whole?-
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