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[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Tajo XD

!vote Phate

Prepare, to be abused.

!abusers

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

!vote zwetschenwasser

WTF is up with your posts, at least try to stay on the topic of the thread, granted that it is pretty random right now, there is no need to joke post over and over, and it makes me think you want DGB to look at you as town just because you are joke posting, which, trust me, will not work.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Hardly an overreaction, just a semi-random vote.

Answer my question, much?

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Pretty sure mafia-ally wins with mafia but comes up town (I forget what happens, as the only time I've been it, I got NK'd N1), might want to ask Xyl on that.

Also, Xyl said he had "pre-balanced" the 19p wacky setup (Some setups from the bot are completely broken, or ridiculously swingy or unbalanced, not to mention wayyy too confusing if you have never played wacky before...), so I highly doubt there is much of a crazy unbalanced factor that there is in so many other wacky games. Maybe Cult + Mafia + SK at the worst, possibly a survivor and very unlikely a mafia-ally (Due to them not being used on the forums like, at all.), but nothing out of the ordinary, at least I'd hope.

On actual game topic:

@Tar Why do you think he isn't being carefree or silly? I've just finished pressuring him about joke posting, that's the opposite of your reasoning.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

IRC (Internet Relay Chat) is a chat medium used commonly by PC users.

It's based on servers and channels, and Xyl runs a mafia channel and has a bot programmed to set up games which are played with small amounts of players at an extremely fast pace. Basically, Xyl is taking a sample setup from the IRC bot and doing it here, although with some actual Moderating, and is trying to make it "feel" like a big, drawn out IRC game.

This is obviously @zwet, btw.

Also, no idea where your vote went, just re-vote.

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I vote that the bot crashes during the game and we have to restart XP lol

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

EBWOP: Wow, I just looked at my post... that XP is a smiley face, not referring to windows XP... 8D

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

!unvote

Tar, I think I see what you are getting at, I'm gonna go back and read in context.

@Everyone Else

Tar plays like this in the beginning of most games, and I am usually able to see town-Tar's thinking, if he's thinking what I believe, it makes sense, but I know Kevy too, so I have reason to believe that this is genuine kevy play and not the scum tell Tar is making it out to be.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

I think kevy is fine, but I definitely see Tar's points.

@Kevy

How I read Tar's post, the "Am I clear?" wasn't asking if he was clear as town, but that he was being clear in his explanations.

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I'm getting town vibes from Tar, based mostly on the fact that I can read what I think he is trying to do and it makes sense, but kevy isn't affected by the argument for the points he brought up in his last post.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Tar might be reviver trying to prove himself, there's way too many possibilities in wacky to speculate, but Watcher Reviver or some other semi-investigative with a reviver power would work for town-Tar, not sure if he is actually trying to draw attention to himself or not.

Jester's do not exist in wacky IIRC, ask Phate or Kevy though, maybe if I could do month's of testsetuping I could tell you for sure but I don't know.

!vote zwet

He knows exactly why, too, in Open 117 he saw the drawbacks of claiming early and following other experienced people, I believe that he is smart enough to testsetup and find out what a MUP is and fakeclaim, or, if he is town (Or mafia MUP, if that is poss.) he is much stupider town than Tar, that plus his bullshit vote on Tar and the continuation of my random vote, this stays until I find a better target.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

That's bullshit in the 3rd degree, if you want to massclaim, at least pick someone to go next.

@KScope

Huh?

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

That's great, I don't feel like we need a mass claim just yet, so you get to wait until I clear some shit up in my mind.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Oh really, DGB?

That's bullshit.

!vote DrippingGoofball

Sadly, I don't see scum-DGB stupid enough to follow his buddy if zwet is scum, but that's lessening in my mind, I think it may be scum-DGB hopping on a convenient wagon.

IRC'ers might know what I'm doing, and will surely know what I am doing after I actually claim.

Also, @zwet, I did not "partially support it" that's total bullshit, I said that you would need to pick someone to claim if you wanted a mass claim, which doesn't make sense that you would stall and support a mass claim.

Furthermore, stalling a mass claim is not a scum tell at all, if you are smart town not wanting to reveal roles, you would stall a mass claim, so don't just hop on me because of that.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

If I had to fret about fakeclaiming, wouldn't I be on IRC right now testsetupping like hell and not posting all this shit in the thread, that would make me look scummier...

The wagon is small, but if two people are on it instead of one, it's much easier to snowball, the 2nd vote on a wagon is quite convenient for scum because they don't look like they are pushing it near as much.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

EBWOP: Also, if you are against mass claiming, you shouldn't claim as town, especially if you know outing yourself might hurt the town in the long run.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

You go on the irc server and channel (#mafia@irc.globalgamers.net) (If you don't know how to do this, I'm not going to explain it to you...) and then message TestBot for the testsetup ("/msg TestBot testsetup wacky 19").

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Xtoxm, Xyl hates it when people testsetup with XylBot, especially in-channel, it lags XylBot like hell.

zwet, follow my instructions.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

The wagon is small, but if two people are on it instead of one, it's much easier to snowball, the 2nd vote on a wagon is quite convenient for scum because they don't look like they are pushing it near as much.

So you're really really really worried about a

second

vote?

No, I'm not worried, but I am voting you because of the jumping on, call it OMGUS, but it's a valid reason.

@zwet

Not annoying, just I'm lazy and can't explain it too well.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

No, your wrong.

Your reason is less valid, you know well enough that stalling a mass claim is a townie thing to do if you don't want to let scum rape the game from D1.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

I did not notice Vir's simul-post earlier, I am reading it now.

@zwet, exactly that, if they aren't lying, we have just outed a very strong power role, so why are you in favor of mass claiming? This is a stupid, stupid idea.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Now that I have read it, Vir is basically saying what I have been saying, mass claim is stupid, I will not claim right now, I do not support it, the end.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Why me over him, rabbit?

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Actually, we (had) the same number of votes, so that's bullshit there...

@tajo

Technically, yes, but only if the bot even has this setup in it, remember that Xyl "modified" the setup used in this game so it would be balanced, there is no guarantee that that plan would work.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

/me thinks...

wait can we pick the setup? or is it already planned?

It's already planned. I'm not quite crazy or stupid enough to run a random large XylBot setup without vetting it for minimal balance first.

You sure?

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Well, he's lying somewhere.

Maybe your plan would work, just not sure on the reliability of it.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

DGB, RTFT.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

vet (v trans): "to evaluate for possible approval or acceptance"

???

RTFT is what zwet said, although that is cleaned up a bit...

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Nice job, yaya.

Fox, if you ever read this, you deserve to beat your little brother.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

@tajo

I like Kevy because he seems to be playing how I am used to him playing, and his comments seem more like he is talking from his experience in IRC than the bullshit Tar was throwing, but Tar is following his town-meta extremely closesly. Good enough for you?

@Kevy

Phate never said (At least in-thread) that the claiming idea was a joke, it may very well be a way to find scum, like those that push the MC. For this very reason, I am now convinced of zwet's townie-ness, however stupid he may be.

@DGB

That last post plus your pushing of the MC doesn't look good, your lucky I have half a mind to not vote you.

@Tar

That makes sense, but how are you attacking me AND saying it may be town bullshit at the same time? I don't want to claim because I know it will hurt the town in the long run, please don't try and make me look scummy for that. Also, I have been far from actively lurking, although you will only be able to tell definitively if and when I make it to Day 2. I am trying to make cases with my limited time, but I am not sure who to blame for pushing this MC shit, considering it could be a town-Phate gambit or anything else.

@Everyone

Xyl posted "vet" for a reason, he apparently looked over the setup, and if he didn't like it, re-randomized it (Basically a new testsetup) until he found one he liked, so tajo's plan may work, but I doubt that that is what Phate was thinking about doing.

@tubby

You are at least experienced enough on this site to follow a game and post your thoughts, the fact that you say you are confused would be enough, and the fact that you didn't bring any of this up until Tar called you out makes me feel iffy about you.

!vote tubby216

I feel better having my vote here instead of on DGB atm.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

*sigh* I don't know how to enter a game or talk to people. I've tried joining channels and PMing people but no one says anything. What am I missing?

Can we get off of this IRC shit? You don't need to play games on IRC for this game, chill out.

FTR, IRC is commonly quiet, but if people are active and playing, it is painfully obvious how to play.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Rabbit, why do you continue to think I am scum with no backing, much less why I am scum with DGB?

Please make a case.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Really?

Just because of that, I think there is a possibility that I know your role, and it may be a dupe role, just saying.

And, no, I just want you to make a case instead of doing what you are doing, but the softclaims are nice.

Rabbit, I am not a doctor.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Really?

Just because of that, I think there is a possibility that I know your role, and it may be a dupe role, just saying.

And, no, I just want you to make a case instead of doing what you are doing, but the softclaims are nice.

Rabbit, I am not a doctor.

Oi! Threats, emotions, it's all here!

That's no threat, that's me saying I think I know what he is hinting at (softclaim). No emotions either, I simply told him to make a case and then told him some information that might help him if he is doing what I think he is...

You are so stupid that I want to lynch you, sadly I'm pretty sure that you are town.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

!vote UnofficialRulerOfEveryone

!xmafia votes

Also, it is useless and annoying to continually ask the mod for vote counts, its only one vote by Jesus.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

I'm interested in the following people right now:

DGB
Rofl
Zwetchenwasser.

I'm not so sure about rofl, if he is what I think he is, we need to leave him be, at least for today... No arguments on the DGB thing, and I completely understand the zwet thing...

And now that Tanarin has replaced (Hi Tan!!!)...

I will claim...

I am Tanarin, the all-powerful. I have every ability and I can ban each and every one of you (Except for the OPs, inc. Phate and Tan...) and win the game at any point. Ha. (This is a joke, obv. Some of the IRC'ers will get it)

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Hmm... Kevy and Kscope, cases, please?

I am still not a doctor, rofl.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

No Lynching seems beyond the nut low.

What?

Also, No Lynching is a possibility, but I don't think we should do it here, it's different than on IRC, just has an IRC setup.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

tanarin has a higher than average chance of being

a uroe scumbuddy

both sane (personally, not in-game) and a very talented and experienced IRC player

.

incidentally, uroe still needs more votes to get lynched.

hop to it guys.

Fixed.

This is D1, I think that we should at least try and listen to what the more experienced IRC players say. I expect them to be killed because they will be the ones to really spot fakeclaims and such. Also, knowledge of the bot spitting out killing roles is helpful, so I see where Phate is going, but it's stupid.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

@Tanarin. Well those quotes are way before the idea of Tar acting scummy on purpose came up.
Look my problem is the next one. Tar never acted protown in this game. I dont understand why UROE was so quick to give him townie status. Confused minds would put him at neutral, minimum. My other problem is that he never took a stance in the Tar-Kevy fight. Why?
Do you know UROE and how experienced would you consider him?
Ill wait for UROE and his comments/answers/opinions and such.
@All, Opinions of Tar claiming in his next post?

I took a stance, I said I thought it was both of them townies, just arguing over nothing...

Like I've said, my Tar-meta leads me to believe Tar is a townie in this game.

What other things do you need from me?

Also, sorry I've been running behind, my work load has increased sharply the past week.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

URoE is pretty experienced, IMO, and I definitely agree with the case on him now. Tanarin, why are you defending him? The mass claim thing isn't the only case against him, you know.

What case?

Are you drunk or this stupid?

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

attack the man

instead of trying to defend himself, he tries to get whatever you have on him thrown out on the grounds that you're "drunk or stupid"

Not trying to get anyone to throw anything out the window, I can't defend myself from a case if it has never been stated.

Also, see "Personal Attacks"...

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Apparently everyone's scumdar sucks dick... I'm not claiming until someone actually POSTS a VALID case agiainst me.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

I don't see anyone jumping up to put the L-1 vote on me...

I don't claim until either that or a case is posted.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

btw claim you have good reason too now

I'm sure he's frantically studying the wiki roles right now.

Yep, because I would wiki IRC roles...

It's called dinner, genius.

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I am a Watcher (Town), I can watch another player every night and I will be told if they used an action.

For some weird reason, my Role PM says "Block" is my ability, but I didn't even notice that until now... I sent in a watch ability and got a result back, so I assume that is Xyl's typo.

DGB didn't use an action tonight, but that doesn't clear him from being scum.

^^ That's why I didn't wan to claim, if you can watch someone for a couple of nights undetected, you have a much better picture than if not, so I will have to choose a new target if I live into the night.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Is there any role that can detect abilities?

Like, which ability a role has? No.

Like, if someone has an ability? I think so.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Is there any role that can detect abilities?

Like, which ability a role has? No.

Like, if someone has an ability? I think so.

So anyone with this ability who targetted you would get watch or block?

What?

Also, I just noticed the fact that my role said block... I saw watcher and confirmed... I know enough about IRC to know what a watcher does. I have PMd Xyl about the fact that it says block.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

DGB didn't use an action tonight, but that doesn't clear him from being scum.

I have to congratulate you on a fine choice of target, but not so much for the gender bender.

Meh, at least I didn't fall back to the "it" or "s/he"...

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

(Sorry for Double Post)

I believe it.

!vote tubby216

This is the problem with claims we were talking about...

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Is there any role that can detect abilities?

Like, which ability a role has? No.

Like, if someone has an ability? I think so.

So anyone with this ability who targetted you would get watch or block?

What?

Also, I just noticed the fact that my role said block... I saw watcher and confirmed... I know enough about IRC to know what a watcher does. I have PMd Xyl about the fact that it says block.

Im asking that if someone has that role (can detect abilities) would he have got "block" or "watch"?
Also why DGB? Do you know her? Why didnt you pick any of your friends from IRC?

No, you might be thinking Robot, which gets an ability when they are targeted with it. (Excluding kill, obv.)

DGB is always a good target. Yes, I do know her, at least well enough to know that she is an extremely good scum player.

'Cuz.

Also, Xyl has confirmed that the "Block" instead of "Watch" under my abilities was most def. a typo, no harm no foul, though, as I sent in a watch action and got a result.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

hmm, ok re-reading

He's fine with my claim (So good with it that he is re-reading to find scum, btw), but doesn't unvote?

That's a classic "Crap, people are believing him and I almost dodged my lynch and constructed a mislynch."

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

EBWOP:

Add:

", but I want to try to get him lynched still."

To the end of my fake-quote in my above post in place of the current period.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Why do you think I told rofl I wasn't a doctor, please look at soft claims.

Also, your accusations our obv wrong from my PoV, try and prove me wrong, go.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Because, watcher can be a scum role, as you know...

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

I think Daz's spreadsheet has the spreads on if a role is town or scum in different setups... I'm fairly sure that the likelihood of being town is like 65% percent or more for a watcher.

Kevy has been using craplogic and contradicting himself, not to mention saying I was anxious to claim, which is bullshit (Because I vehemently denied wanting to claim unless I was given probable cause [A good case or a L-1 vote...]).

Along with his planning based on an un-confirmed role alignment makes him look like scum trying to control the game to me.

!vote Kevy

Further, DGB isn't talking

for

me, he is talking in

defense

of me, saying I am town due to the accuracy of my claim (However useless/full this is), which is yet another bullshit accusation by Kevy. I have a life, I go to school, I am not on the internet 24/7, if someone that is becoming increasingly townish wants to defend someone (Me, in this case) that s/he thinks is town in their absence, they could and should.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Nope, just puts me back at L-1