Best Role Ideas?

[Mafiaplayer]

I've actually seen a game with an un-nkable doctor. Oddly, the Mafia still won because he got lynched for having an implausible role.

[xelada]

Addictive Cop

- You may investigate any player at night in order to learn if they are scum via an inocent or guilty read. You know that you are sane but if you are targeted by a doc your results for that night could be wrongly influenced.You win with the town when all scum are elimnated. Good luck.

Mod Notes -
if Cop is protected from a kill, his result will be paranoia
if Cop is protected and not targeted for a kill, his result will be naive

Inspiration: CEScum rules!
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 72#1363572

that is a really awesome role. It adds nifty layers of wifom and neuters the cop+doc combo.
That is how the original newbie game setup should have been fixed!

Super Classic Newbie Game Setup Remix

2 Mafia Goons
1 Addictive Cop
1 Doctor
3 Townies

daystart

add a vig and a Mafia doc (like a regular doc but for the mafia) and it is better.

[PokerFace]

The inspiration or game where CEScum had a simular cop, actually did have a mafia doc

[TonyMontana]

You are a

Drug Dealer

.
You have a selection of substances you may choose to give a person each night

Weed

- Person will be incapacitated for the night.

Heroin

- Not only will this incapacitate the person that night, but if you choose not to give them another shot the next night, they will die.

LSD

- I will send an incoherent PM to the person. If the person has an investigative action, the results will be ridiculous. If person makes a kill, he will suicide instead.

Cocaine

- Target will get an extra night-action, i.e. cop gets 2 investigations, killer gets 2 kills.
You may only give LSD and cocaine once, and only heroin to one person. You have unlimited amounts of weed.
You win with the town.

Mod note: Will get guilty result from cop. If killed by Mafia, Mafia gets weed stash.

[PokerFace]

Let's face it. Being an SK can be difficult especially if there is an FBI agent or Psychiatrist geared solely to find or rehabilitate you. Jesters can be easy because they can normally get themselves lynched very early in a game. But what if there was a role that nuetered Jesters like the FBI Agent and Psychiatrist do for SK's

You are an

Asylum Doctor

. There maybe a Jester in this game. Each day you may call a player into your office. If they are a Jester they will be rehabilitated and turned into an anytime mason with you. You can talk to each other and know for certain each of you is town for the rest of the game. You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated. Good Luck

You are a

Shock Treatment Officer

. There maybe a Jester in this game. Each Twighlight you may shedule the player with the most votes to recieve shock treatment. This will pardon them from being lyched and they will instead be given them the shock treatment. This will render them incapacited and they'll get thrown into a cell for the night unable to be killed or perform any actions. They will be imediatly released or exiled from the game at the start of the next day as a result of your treatment. This will not cause the game to re-enter night because it does not truly count as a lynch. If this is done on 2 uncrazed (non-jester) individuals your position will be euthenized from the medical field and you will be forced to leave the town in order to find work elsewhere. If the task is performed on a Jester the town will recieve an extra day before the next night. You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated. Good Luck

[PokerFace]

You are

George Bush

, a C avg student who somehow got lucky enough to be elected president of the united states twice. It would be absolutly hilarious if you could get those guys to vote for you again after all the trouble you caused. A third term in office would be awesome, but its going to take some very delicate stratejere for you to gather a majority of the votes on day 3. Hopefully you can pull this off without being killed in office ahead of time. Should you succeed you will win the game and have diplomatic immunity once again. Meaning you can help me write death scenes and what not as the rest of the game progress. You won't be harmed as you have the oportunity to watch a good show, it can be just like a cartoon for you. Good Luck Mr. President.

You are a

NAL Seriel Killer

. At night you may kill any player of your choice. You may also kill any player via sending me a PM during the day. this skill will only work if your target has not posted for more than 7 real life days without some V/LA notice in their sig, the games posts, or the V/la thread. This skill can be used any number of times during a single game day. The 7 day no post timer will reset itself at the start of each game day for each player. You are aligned with yourself and you win when you are the last one alive or nothing can be done to prevent this. Nuke all lurkers. Good Luck

[PokerFace]

You are a

Census Taker

. You have a one shot ability you may use at anytime to check the census of alignments in play. I will tell you how many players are of which alignment. You will not learn who is of each alignment or what role they are. You win with the town when all threats to its safety have been eliminated. Good Luck.

You are a

Advanced Census Taker

. You have a one shot ability you may use at anytime to check the census of Aligned Roles in play. I will tell you how many players are power roles and which alignment they belong too. You will not learn which role or alignment each individual has. You win with the town when all threats to its safety have been eliminated. Good Luck.

You are a

MacDaddy

. You have a one shot ability you may use at anytime to learn how many Prostitutes (role blockers) are in play. You will not learn who these players are or what alignment they have. You win with the town when all threats to its safety have been eliminated. Good Luck.

You are a

Pimp

. You have a one shot ability you may use at anytime to learn how many role blockers are on your town pay role and how many aren't. After all its your job to keep the ho's in this city inline so your know if someone is taking money from you. You win with the town when all threats to its safety have been eliminated. Good Luck.

You are a

Police Chief

. You have a one shot ability you may use at anytime to learn how many Cops are in play. You will not learn who these players are or what alignment they have. You win with the town when all threats to its safety have been eliminated. Good Luck.

You are a

Commisioner

. You have a one shot ability you may use at anytime to learn how many Cops are on your town pay role and how many aren't. After all its your job to keep the cops in this city inline. You win with the town when all threats to its safety have been eliminated. Good Luck.

You are a

Chief of Medicine

. You have a one shot ability you may use at anytime to learn how many Docs are in play. You will not learn who these players are or what alignment they have. You win with the town when all threats to its safety have been eliminated. Good Luck.

You are a

Hospital Board Director

. You have a one shot ability you may use at anytime to learn how many Docs are on your town pay role and how many aren't. After all its your job to keep the cops in this city inline. You win with the town when all threats to its safety have been eliminated. Good Luck.

Exploit mass claims.

[PokerFace]

You are a Porn Star. You cannot be targeted by any night actions except investigations because you are too busy having sex. Even though you are town aligned, when you are investigated, all the weird sex you have makes you look guilty. You win with the town when all threats to its safety have been eliminated. Good Luck.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 29#1488629

[White Castle]

Two-kill Godfather

- in addition to showing up as innocent by cop investigations, it takes two kills for you to die. A kill can be a lynch or an execution.

-balanced against-

Two-kill town leader

- it takes two kills for you to die. A kill can be a lynch or an execution. Further, as long as you are alive death notices during twilight for the lynched will not reveal anything that could be used by the mafia at night. For example, if a cop is lynched while you are alive, I'll merely confirm that the player was lynched. At the start of the next day I'll reveal that the player was a cop. However, if a mafia goon is lynched it will always be announced during twilight (since it is good news for the town).

Mod notes - probably use this in an open game setup with at least 12 players. For any other town roles, it must make sense for the town leader to not reveal anything after their lynch. The two-kill gf should show up as "mafia" when investigated by an insane cop. Either of the two-kill roles would be aware that they were successful execution targets at night, and down "one life". After all, they'd feel it for sure.

[White Castle]

Sledgehammer!

- a vanilla townie who gets NK immunity when casting the hammer vote.

This can make the end game interesting, as a lylo may not actually be lylo. For example, if there are 2 mafia and 3 town going into night and the Sledgehammer! has NK immunity, the next day could still have 2 mafia and 3 town. This may also speed up games as a hammer vote in encouraged.

[Jahudo]

That's strange. Someone has hacked into the system and erased whatever files used to be here.



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[BlakAdder]

Maybe inform the other Mafia members that the player is a Rat? Then they'll have the option of NK'ing him just to prevent him from converting and stabbing them in the back. Of course that could be unfair to the rat...
Maybe tell the other members that there is a rat in the Mafia, but not say who it is? But that doesn't help much...
Eh, ignore me, I don't make any sense.

[roflcopter]

inform all other mafia players that they suspect there's a rat in their group, but not who it is

[PokerFace]

Rofl's idea is one solution which is sometimes done with Mafia Usurpers in play. I'll also post the fowling 2 real roles I've seen in order to help Jahudo perfect the Rat role if he wants to do more than that.

You are a Saulas. You are currently aligned with the Mafia. It is your job to help lynch the town so that your side out numbers the town or nothing can be done to prevent this. When you are first lynched or nightkilled you will be ressurected as town where your new win condition will be to eliminate all threats to the town's safety. If you die a second time after this, you are dead for good without your win condition changing again. Good luck.

You are a Judas. You are currently aligned with the Town. It is your job to help eliminate all threats to the town's safety. When you are first lynched or nightkilled you will be ressurected as Mafia where your new win condition will to help lynch the town so that your side out numbers the town or nothing can be done to prevent this. If you die a second time after this, you are dead for good without your win condition changing again. Good luck.

Niether role is ever told who is in the mafia nor can they ever chat with, simular to how a mafia traitor works. Also Lynching is sometimes the only way these roles will change alignement meaning getting night killed will kill them for good as whatever alignment they currently have. The could potentially never switch in that scenario. When either role first dies, the player is ressurected. All other players in the game will learn of the ressurection but they will not learn the players real role or new alignment value at the time of the first death.

I suppose you could notify the mafia of a possible judas or saulus in play at the gam'es start but I've never seen that specifically done in a game I've been in.

http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Judas

[Jahudo]

That's strange. Someone has hacked into the system and erased whatever files used to be here.



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[PokerFace]

Then perhaps you are looking for this:
http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Usurper

You are a

Mafia Usurper

with XXXX, YYYY, etc, and ZZZZZ (Mafia Godfather). You my chat with them at night in order to select and kill a member of the town. The one who sends me the action does the kill. You win the the game if you outlive ZZZZZ and your side takes control or outnumbers the other players in the game. ZZZZZ can die in anyway while your alive in order to help fufill this win condition. Good luck.

Sometimes the Usurper can gain all the powers the GF once had when the GF dies (Inocent on investigations and possible NK imunity). If the GF dies after the Usurper or the Mafia wins before the GF's death, then the Usurper looses regardless of whether the rest of the mafia wins. If GF dies, Usurper dies, and then the other members survive and win, The Entire mafia wins.

GF can sometimes be told there is a Usurper but not who it is. When this happens the GF has to find and eliminate the treacherous usurper in his team's rankings in order to win. The Usurper always knows who the GF is at the game start.

[Apll3ez]

Here's some ideas:

You are a

Defence Lawyer

. Each day, you may announce

Defend:Target

. It then takes one more vote than usual to lynch that target for that day. You win with XXXX

Balanced with:

You are a

Prosecution Lawyer

. Each day, you may announce

Prosecute: Target

. It then takes one less vote than usual to lynch that target for that day. You win with XXXX.

Should the Prosecution Lawyer be town or mafia? I don't know-you judge.
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Watcher+Tracker:

You are a

Stalker

. You have a stalkee, who you watch during the night phase, knowing who visited them and who they visit, but never the related alignments or roles. If your target dies, you commit suicide the next night. You win if you are alive with your target when another side wins (e.g. Target is mafia, mafia+you remain. Both of you win).

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Reversal of Princess:

You are a

Police Pet

. When you are night killed, the police in the town are extra vigilant the next night, skipping the next night phase. You win with the town.

[PokerFace]

I really like the Stalker's win condition. Simular to Treacherous Lovers cept no night Chat and you can see watch and track stuff. So its like the half way point between Mafia Spy and Mafia Treacherous Lover. Does the Stalkee know he's being stalked? I assume no

The 2 lawyers should probably be able to be any alignment based on game setup. Otherwise if someone anounces/posts

Defend:Target

or

Prosecute: Target

in thread, that basically confirms the poster as town or scum imediatly to everyone. The Prosecuter could only use the skill followed by an imediate lylo hammer or else town should quick lynch him for he's obv scum. Defender being able to auto confirm can hurt mafia bigtime in the end too. So its best you allow the winconditions to be interchangeable. Both skills and ideas kick butt otherwise. Can add interesting depth to a game esentially giving a Prosecutor a double vote and the Defendant an anti-vote.

Police Pet is pretty cool. Killing bombs or PGO's hurt scum; now they got to avoid killing another target. Should probably make its skill only activate if its killed at night otherwise Town can mislynch a player and get no night penalty. If you lynch wrong town should always pay by going to night in my opinion. Either way, only NK activation or both activation, its still a pretty interesting oposite of the princess role

[Apll3ez]

I really like the Stalker's win condition. Simular to Treacherous Lovers cept no night Chat and you can see watch and track stuff. So its like the half way point between Mafia Spy and Mafia Treacherous Lover. Does the Stalkee know he's being stalked? I assume no

No, they don't.

The 2 lawyers should probably be able to be any alignment based on game setup. Otherwise if someone anounces/posts

Defend:Target

or

Prosecute: Target

in thread, that basically confirms the poster as town or scum imediatly to everyone. The Prosecuter could only use the skill followed by an imediate lylo hammer or else town should quick lynch him for he's obv scum. Defender being able to auto confirm can hurt mafia bigtime in the end too. So its best you allow the winconditions to be interchangeable. Both skills and ideas kick butt otherwise. Can add interesting depth to a game esentially giving a Prosecutor a double vote and the Defendant an anti-vote.

Edited:Left it as XXXX.

Police Pet is pretty cool. Killing bombs or PGO's hurt scum; now they got to avoid killing another target. Should probably make its skill only activate if its killed at night otherwise Town can mislynch a player and get no night penalty. If you lynch wrong town should always pay by going to night in my opinion. Either way, only NK activation or both activation, its still a pretty interesting oposite of the princess role

Went with NK activation.

I'm thinking maybe of making the stalker always come up as guilty or innocent, but I'm thinking against it.

Suggestions?

(Man, we should totally run a game with roles from this thread).

[PokerFace]

Indeed a game like that should be run.

If you want to make the Stalker mafia then you can have it be guilty otherwise if only the Stalkee is the mafia, then have stalkee turn up scum and stalker turn up nuetral (thirdparty) or inocent. If niether is mafia don't have either show up guilty. Only have someone show up scum if they are. Otherwise you may be over complicating this thing making it more difficult for it to win the game.

If Stalker and stalkee both alive when town wins and astalkee is town then they win with the town. If they are both mafia and both are alive then they win when/with the scum victory. If one mafia and other isn't, if both live they can win with the rest of the scum at end game or if all other scum and town are dead then they win as a pair by themselves (treacherous lover like), everyone else looses. Probably gonna need them to know each other withot nightchat in that last scenario because scum stalkee might have differing oppion on whether or not they want to kill their stalker vs win with them, though since scum don't always know if their is a traitor helping them, you could probably still find a way to work it.

I'd personally only allow stalkee town, stalker nuetral or inocent revealed third party; basically stalker wins with stalkee and town when rest of town wins or I'd make only the stalkee mafia and now the thirdParty stalker has to help the mafia in order to win like a mafia spy cept stalkee or stalker death means a loss for the stalker. Inocent Stalker with Mafia Stalkee probably adds most depth.

There may also be some interesting scenarios where you can have the stalker die, stalkee live and somehow still have the stalker win in admiration terms, they some how want the best for their stalkee even if they aren't with them but that's probably getting too much into an anti-lyncher type appeal so altered investigations and win conditions both overcomplicate things and only done in really difficult setups outside the basic scopes

[syndromeofadown]

Hi first post. Here is a role I invented for this mafia game I was planning. (or at least I think I invented it, probably has been done before) I was trying to come up with ways to give normal villagers a way to have an interesting and strategic day time or night time action without making them power roles, since I was planning a big mafia game and I knew a lot of people get disappointed signing up for a big mafia game and getting what you guys call "plain vanilla townies"

Here's the role:

You are

suicidal teenager

,

You sleep during the night, and can vote during the day. You also have one additional ability. During the day, while the voting process is taking place, you may post the following phrase: "

I CAN'T STAND MY LIIIIIFE ANYMORE! I'M GOING TO KILL MYSELF

" exactly how I phrased it, in all caps, bold, underlined and italicized. You will then kill yourself. All votes counted towards you will be removed, and those who voted for you will have to select a new lynch target. You cannot use this ability after a majority has already been reached

Basically, if the village falsely believes you to be mafia, or is in the process of randlynching you, instead of them wasting their lynch on you, you can kill yourself and give the village another opportunity to try to lynch mafia without it going to night time. If the numbers somehow become even during the day like they normally can in big game, you can see that this can be a godsend for villagers late game.

[Fritzler]

Way to suggest your own boring role.

Holler.

[BridgesAndBaloons]

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Watcher+Tracker:

You are a

Stalker

. You have a stalkee, who you watch during the night phase, knowing who visited them and who they visit, but never the related alignments or roles. If your target dies, you commit suicide the next night. You win if you are alive with your target when another side wins (e.g. Target is mafia, mafia+you remain. Both of you win).

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with a little tweaking i think this could be a very awesome role.

[Narsis]

oh i have a brilliant idea!

You are a

Mafia Goon

. You are mafia with AAAA and XXXX. You may talk with them outside the thread at night. During that time you must decide who in the group will send in a night kill and who you will kill. If more then one member sends in a kill and they are for different targets, no one will be targetted. You win when your mafia group makes up at least 50% of the remaining players and no roles exist that may cause you to lose.

[/sarcasm]

[syndromeofadown]

Fine, you want some interesting roles?

You are

Caterpie

. You desperately want to become a Butterfree at all costs.

During the day, if whomever you vote for is also lynched, even if you did not cast the deciding vote, you will gain experience and level up. You are currently level 5. At level 7, you will evolve into

Metapod

, gaining the ability to harden during the night, preventing you from any night kills. At level 10, you will finally evolve into

Butterfree

and fly away at dusk (at the end of the day in which you leveled up, but before nightfall). You win if you evolve into Butterfree. However, evolving into Butterfree does not end the game.

You are

Whatever I say, goes

. You are aligned with XXX, YYY, ZZZ (the mafia). During the day, whoever you vote for will influence the rest of your mafia gang, and their vote will be counted as though they were voting for the same person as you. However, your gang is deceitful. They may trick the other players by lying about their votes.

Example: XXX votes person A, YYY votes person B, ZZZ votes person B, you vote person C. At the end of the day, the mod will tally up the results as 0 votes A, 0 votes B, 4 votes C.

You are the

Lazy Vigilante

. You may only kill on even nights (nights 2, 4, 6, etc.) and may only vote on odd days (day 1, 3, 5, etc.)You are allied with the village, and win if the villagers win