Mini 733- Congratulations! You are... Mafia (Game Over)

[Darox]

So I see there's a lot of good discussion here, but I'm shocked to see we haven't covered the most important topic.

Who is better?

Hulk vs The Flash
Green Lantern vs Human Torch
Aquaman vs Superman
Wolverine vs Batman

You must decide!

[Darox]

Zeez so eezee.

Ze Flazh
Green Lantern
Sooperman
Battaman

Haff I vahn yet?

No way man, how can you think that? You only got the Green Lantern right!

The Flash has nothing on the Hulk, he's way too puny to hurt him and if Hulk gets one hand on him he's done for.
As for superman, he's nothing but a mommas boy and far too pc to be a 'real' hero. He's like captain planet. Aquaman is clearly superior.
As for Wolverine vs Batman. Wolverine has claws. CLAWS. No contest.

[Darox]

To silly ol' Darox:

Flash
Torch
Superman
Wolverine

Wrong wrong wrong!

Don't you people no anything?

It's obvious what the right choices are, those other guys would have no hope, cause they're so bad.

[Darox]

Superman I wouldn't have picked against anyone else, except that Aquaman has no powers, except in water. All superman has to do is fly and Aquaman must simply sit in his puddles begging superman to come for a swim.

Please, Aquaman could flood the entire world if he wanted to, he's just that badass. Not to mention he has dominion over all the sea life. Superman wouldn't have a chance versus Aquaman's Orca warriors. Superman would have to hide like the pansy he is and go use his angst superpowers.\

Bottom line.

Aquaman is awesome.
Orca's are awesome.
Aquaman controls Orcas.
=
Aquaman is awesome squared.

[Darox]

I'm sorry, but you cannot compare batman to wolverine with anything but glowing praise for wolverine. Wolverine has unbreakable claws, super regeneration, and amazing tracking abilities. Batman on the other hand, is a guy in a rubber suit who pretends he is a bat.

And superman is an angsty pansy, there's no way he could stand up to the awesome and rugged Aquaman.

[Darox]

Aquaman is awesome.
Orca's are awesome.
Aquaman controls Orcas.
=
Aquaman is awesome squared.

[Darox]

So I see there's a lot of good discussion here, but I'm shocked to see we haven't covered the most important topic.

Who is better?

Hulk vs The Flash
Green Lantern vs Human Torch
Aquaman vs Superman
Wolverine vs Batman

You must decide!

superpowers? ability to fly, talk with fish, or turn GREEN?
they are obviously all aliens () so NONE OF THEM (except batman, go batman!)

Consider this.
Superman came from

another planet

, but Aquaman is 100% all original Earthling. He may be the lord of the seas, but he is all earthling, unlike that alien imposter Superman.

[Darox]

I think the more important question is

Who would win in a fight, a Lawn Gnome or a Porcelain Doll?

[Darox]

This is a very important issue.

There are two Aliens and three Agents

Who would win if:
They were both unarmed?
The Aliens had ray guns and the Agents had projectile weapons?
The Aliens had psychokinesis and the Agents had reverse engineered Plasma Weapons? If the Agents do not have psychic dampening fields?

[Darox]

Darox, do you have any information about lawn gnomes?

I can't talk to heathens like you who think Superman is better than Aquaman.

[Darox]

Incidentally, if Glork and EK got into a fight, EK would mop the floor with Glorks sorry face. No contest man.

Even if Glork started with a hand cannon and EK had nothing but a scrap of paper, she would still tear him limb from limb, no contest.

[Darox]

You sure haven't said that Aquaman is better than Superman, heathen.

I bet you don't even know who would win if Bruce Campbell and Michael Caine fought.

[Darox]

Darox, why are you avoiding Kmd's question?

Why are you avoiding my questions?

This is a very important issue.

There are two Aliens and three Agents

Who would win if:
They were both unarmed?
The Aliens had ray guns and the Agents had projectile weapons?
The Aliens had psychokinesis and the Agents had reverse engineered Plasma Weapons? If the Agents do not have psychic dampening fields?

Hmm? This is important stuff here, keep up.

[Darox]

I do know, however, that you should buy some lemonade.

How good is this lemonade?

If say, your lemonade had a cage match with apple juice, who would emerge victorious? What if the apple juice was actually hard cider?

[Darox]

So I see there's a lot of good discussion here, but I'm shocked to see we haven't covered the most important topic.

Who is better?

Hulk vs The Flash
Green Lantern vs Human Torch
Aquaman vs Superman
Wolverine vs Batman

You must decide!

I'm so ignorant I going to have to guess!

The Flash sounds cooler. Plus, I dunno, exploding green guy, meh?

I'll go with Green Lantern. Like the word lantern.

Er - Superman? Kryptonite has rqather entered the lexicon.

Batman. One movie I've seen at least.

I think not, heathen.

[Darox]

I'll let you off for thinking batman was better, because you could have been thinking of Batman Beyond who is indeed an equal opponent to Wolverine.

Now that we are on the same page, I'm not answering Kmd's question because he

clearly

has no understanding of the power dynamics of Hulk vs The Flash, Green Latern vs Human Torch, Aquaman vs Superman, and Wolverine vs Batman.

[Darox]

Aside from the fact lawn gnomes would totally crush porcelain dolls in a war, I don't know anything about them.

[Darox]

I think we all know that that picture is false because that kitten could easilly take a pair of Domo no problem. Kittens are famous for being able to tear apart anything remotely fuzzy.

Also, there's no way I'd drink any lemonade that wasn't awesome enough to take down hard cider in a cage match. It's probably actually limonade.

[Darox]

Furthermore,

Vote Glork

because not only would he lose against EK in mortal combat, but because he has two votes and he didn't vote for the second person.

Everyone knows that if you can't beat EK in mortal combat without using an Alpaca you must be scum.

[Darox]

Furthermore,

Vote Glork

because not only would he lose against EK in mortal combat,

but because he has two votes and he didn't vote for the second person.

Everyone knows that if you can't beat EK in mortal combat without using an Alpaca you must be scum.

[Darox]

Who do you think is better at not being in this game?

MeMe, farside, or Tony the Tiger?

[Darox]

Who is Ross Perot, Glork?

Seriously? Damn, I feel old now.

Could he take on Spiderman in a fight? How about if he was wearing rocket boots?

[Darox]

Unvote, Vote Ross Perot

If we get him elected he can run in the Presidential Smackdown.

He won't win of course, the finals always consists of Lincoln, Washington, and FDR.

[Darox]

I could care less if I get voted in the random phase to start things off.

No reason really.

I was going to vote her anyway and then saw a couple votes already on her. I wasn't going to not vote her just because of 2 votes though, so I said what I said. There really isn't any other motive to it or anything.

the problem isn't you voting for her
it's just weird that you said "btw this isn't a bandwagon vote". it seemed like you were trying to avoid getting voted

So if kmd and a compulsive liar had a battle to see who could contradict each other more, I think kmd would win hands down.

If you didn't care about getting voted, why did you try to explain away your vote by saying it wasn't a bandwagon vote?

[Darox]

Why would you make a disclaimer about a vote page one?

[Darox]

Very important question: Which is superior, a Lion or a Tiger?

I can say however that kmd is definitely inferior to both in a cage match, so with that in mind

Vote Kmd4390

[Darox]

Votecount

Ross Perot - -0 - [Glork, Darox, Mirth]

Cups of Lemonade Bought: 1

Ross Perot is equatable to Lemonade. Both are clearly more dangerous than stranger candy.

[Darox]

I don't get that logic.

Let's say caf is town, and the lemonade is fighting say, mineral water, and the scum knows caf is not with them, why would they be inclined to buy lemonade?
And would the lemonade still be victorious if the mineral water picked up a chair?

[Darox]

Kittens are not scum.
Kittens are never scum.

Kittens beat every other fluffy animal in existence when it comes to cuteness. Nothing that cute could

ever

be scum. They are especially cuter than puppies.

On other note, Sly, why haven't you shared your ideas about darox? Why did you need Glorken's reasons beforehand?

Also I agree with the over defensiveness thing, but I'm not voting kmd for being over defensive.

[Darox]

Buy: Hard Cider

Cause it's better that lemonade. Limonade too.

[Darox]

I keep thinking how this is a Bastard Mod game and figure most mechanics and mod info will be red-herrings. I came in asking about the Lemonade because it sounded interesting, reminded me of BALCO and I thought maybe we'd learn something about the person selling it.

Maybe most of this stuff has been covered earlier.

Are you saying you haven't read the entire game? Not reading the game in its entirety

is

scummy.

What?

[Darox]

Which is more real, aliens or sasquatches?

[Darox]

He name claimed Sasquatch (I think) and implied that as a Sasquatch he couldn't be caught, suggesting lynching him would fail. If we lynch him and it does fail, it would pretty much confirm some type of lynch immunity.

Personally I think a Sasquatch has nothing on either a Yeti or ManBearPig.

[Darox]

Oh yeah, who is Jeep?

It's a well known off-road vehicles brand. It's easily better than land rovers, no contest.

What question?

[Darox]

Lie! You have never previously voted, KMD! (I think ...)
Vote KMD <3 you

(I'm so bad at German )

There are no lies there. I was anxious to vote before the game even started.

(You're better at German than me.)

Seems like it .

I have no idea ...
(^ ^ The only sentence that I know from my head )

Do you have proof that we can trust you?

You have more votes than I do

unvote vote Caf19
FoS SlySly

He bought lemonade, without knowing what it could do.

No
If I could, I would, how I hate German.

Mirth loves Kittens ...
That is why I have a surprise:
...
If my private ad is correct, then I also love Kittens

A slightly better translation.

[Darox]

And of course, Deutschland is infinitely better than those tossers in France.

[Darox]

Destructor:

You must not post in German ever again in the thread. Period. If you make another post in German, you will be lynched. Got it?

Why?

[Darox]

I mean, why should we stop destructor speaking in German? it does no harm, and German easily beats Spanish in any kind of competition. (Damnit)

[Darox]

Are you suggesting you're going to lynch him by yourself if he doesn't comply?
It seems like you'd need other people for that.

And nobody has answered my Tiger vs Lion question. I'm disappointed, the answer is so apparent to even the most base philistine.

[Darox]

Alright, well, my gambit failed, because you all ruined it and completely missed the point. I guess I will just explain it, and we'll be back where we left off.

I didn't expect to push it till he was modkilled. I figured there were four possibilities, and they had four distinct reactions...however they all relied on him agreeing, which he didn't, which pisses me off (uncooperative = fail).

Town/honest = Acceptance with a tone of resignation to his death. Sort of martyr look to his response. This would result in me letting him post in German again.

Town/lying = why this would be the case, I don't know. I didn't factor this in, since he'd have to be retarded to fake a PR as a townie.

Scum/honest = Acceptance would be complimented by a tone of fear, and of an eagerness to end the day before he was modkilled.

Scum/lying = Acceptance would be super calm. He wouldn't really be concerned, due to the fact that he knew he wouldn't die.


There, now you all see. I hoped there'd be enough pressure to have him accept, but then everyone suddenly turned against it so fast, that it failed miserably. Had he accepted, I feel very strongly that the tone of his reaction would have told us a lot about him. However, now, we shan't know. I never expected, though, to have it last till a modkill.

I can't imagine why you thought he would ever accept it in the first place.

In other news, what are you doing sly?
First you claim you're a Sasquatch and imply you would be hard to find/kill, then you say you don't have any immunity, then claim you'll reveal specifics if the majority wishes. Then you reveal that you're not allowed to claim specifics on pain of modkill.

I mean seriously, a Sasquatch? It's nowhere near as good as a Yeti.

[Darox]

Now destructor seems to be taunting Issac by placing the German is not related to the content of the game.

-------

KMD, there is the possibility that Z and destructor interpretted their role differently, but the answers from destructor, combined with his lack of concern for the reading of the game, which I think he's scum.

-------

Darox lynching is another good candidate as he ignored the questions and he has offered little in the way of actual game content. Who would win in a lynching, or Darox Destroyer? I would be happy if they beat each other.

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Mirth is completely evil to remove the restrictions on the post game.

I can not post limit, in case anyone thinks so from this post.

I have answered all the questions asked of me by the good people here. If you feel I have missed one, feel free to point it out.

More importantly, why have you made this post in various different languages in opposition to your entire 'foreign languages are scummy' concept and your attacks on destructor because of his german.

I also don't like the way you've argued for a destructor lynch. Especially not with gems like this.

When your predecessor supposedly said she could NOT post in english, it sure seems like she was dishonest about that fact. You old timer MSer's know about LAL

LAL is good play in certain situations. I don't see how this is one of them.

She, supposedly, said she couldn't post in english and now you are posting in english. She was lying. LAL

It seems like whenever people provide counter points you just bang your drum louder, and your points against destructor look especially convulted when you are at least as guilty of what you are accusing him for.
The whole "I'm Sasquatch so lynching me is a waste of time" changing to "Oh I read my role pm wrong, I might not be safe from the lynch. I'll claim if you want though" changing to "Oh sorry guys I'm not allowed to claim" looks far worse than Zaizer playing it safe and only posting in German.

I think Sly could give the Catholic Church a run for their money if they had a competition.

Unvote, Vote SlySly

Note: This puts him at L-1.

[Darox]

Because I wasn't responding to them. I'm not a universal translator.

I do what I do because it's part of who I am. If you feel that the critical issues of the dynamics of Lemonade versus Hard Cider then I am sorry but you'll have to deal with it.

Cause seriously, Cider is just so much cooler than lemonade. It's made from apples!

[Darox]

Darox continues to frustrate me. He rarely posts anything original, and his content is more often the "Who would win" than anything else at all. The only time I think I see him making an actual argument is against SlySly.

What?

Maybe I'm not reading the game enough, but I felt I was at least posting

something

original.

And I think you are all together being distracted by what is superior to what, and either not realizing what I mean, or ignoring the rest of the post in which it arrives.
I mean, it's not like they are even that distracting. Shiny rocks are way more distracting than comparative statements, any day of the week.

[Darox]

No, in fact I'm ignoring all of the flavor

You are climbing my scum meter quickly.

Come on, really?

Please explain how ignoring flavour is scummy. As far as I can see, the only thing he's done is disagreed with your attempt to modconfirm yourself as town via flavour. All it looks like right now is OMGUS.

Caf, please define 'a long time', because otherwise you could apply that to most of the players that suspected Sly.

Best member of the Tea party, Mad Hatter or the Sleepy Dormouse?

[Darox]

I never thought you wouldn't get that it was a gambit. However, you knowing it was a gambit wouldn't have stopped it from working. You couldn't have known what reactions I was looking for.

Point is, the only reaction you would expect for every spectrum of alignments and the truth behind the potential modkill, is refuse.

There was no good reason for destructor to agree to your plan, no matter what he was.

Your plan makes so little sense I think it could hold its own in a pingpong match against an aggravated keep left sign.

[Darox]

Ow ow ow.
Complications have arisen. Sudden workload increase.

I shall get on this game shortly.

[Darox]

I'm still here for real guys.

I'll throw down an overview soon. And by soon I mean when it gets done.

[Darox]

Still typing.

In the mean time, could I get a vote count so I know who is the most extreme of all extreme people?

[Darox]

Right. Let's go through everybody in order, and see what they've done. Then I can get a grip on this game.

#1: Caf, the lemonade guy

Starts off with a string of posts about his lemonade and the peddling thereof. Too many options to really call this anything but a null tell, and he doesn't use this as a way to escape posting. His insistence that the lemonade needs to be bought

now

is a bit off putting, but not greatly. He makes some good points against sly. He pressures Coheed for lurking.
Mentions not wanting to end the day until lemonade sales improve, and that he thinks Sly is not lynchproof, which may show up later.
Talking about the Zaizer/Des German issue, he seems to overlook the obvious possibility that Zaizer was being overcautious in relation to any mod message about needing to post in german whereas Des was more willing to try and stretch the limits by posting predominately in english.
Reiterates some of the stuff I say about Isacc's modkill play.
Shortly afterwards, he seems sure that he's going to die overnight

(Why?)

and starts presenting some opinions against a variety of players. One of the stranger opinions is the first one that hascow should be looked into because hascow is focusing on Sly and that this would allow him to "Focus on whoever he wanted tomorrow", which struck me as flawed, as there is no reason why you should insist that somebody should be locked onto a specific selection of people rather than being able to comment on everyone. Oh, and he mentions his previous suspicion of Coheed, who hascow replaced, which is pretty weak.
Then we get an opinion on Imaginality and his voting of Sly. I can't really comment on this yet, so it'll have to wait till we do imaginality, but the bussing comment again looks weak.
Rounding off the series of opinions is about Mephisto. He talks about how Old Scratch was late on the wagon

(Why is this noteworthy?)

and also that Abbadon seemingly came out of nowhere having not stated many serious opinions that Sly was acting scummy

(One would think placing a vote is a pretty good way of saying 'Yep, I think this guy is scummy")

and that this abrupt and previously undocumented suspicion smacks of a bussing attempt, an accusation that would hold more weight if the vote in question was not explained.
In the aftermath of this, caf responds to hascow who has pretty soundly beaten up the weak accusations leveled at him by clarifying that he didn't mean focusing on one person was scummy, and goes on to say that hascow deflected the question with his reply.

(What? How is saying "Sly is the scummiest person by far, to the extent he outshadows the rest of the game" not an explicit and full answer to the question "Who do you find suspicious?")

Brings up a legit point against Baal that he hasn't posted much about his suspicions (or lack thereof) on players besides Kmd and Sly.
Makes a strange response to Hascow's naming of people he finds suspicious, saying he is interested in seeing where hascow will take those suspicions.

(Why so interested in hascow?)

The rest of his posts are talking about lemonade/gnomes and scolding Hades for being evasive.

Overall: The scummiest thing I see here is the thing with hascow about who hascow suspects and cafs various responses to this. Wary of Caf for now.

#2: Hascow, the guy I was just talking about. Awesome.

Coheed contributes a whole lot of nothing, so hascow is starting from pretty much a blank slate here. Starts with a rundown of posts he thought were noteworthy, and a list of people he feels the need to comment on. He votes for Isacc here, which is important because Isacc blows up at this point and all sorts of other controversy stems from it. He defends himself pretty well against Isacc's knee jerk attack.
A short while later, it's brought up again, and he pretty much stomps all over the people protesting his suspicion of Isacc. Several times.
Mentions some suspicions of Sly , votes destructor for the German thing.
Slaps a silent vote down on Sly (L-2) which is kind of disconcerting considering his previously stated suspicions consisted of a couple of offhand comments and a HoS. He then goes on to treat Sly as public enemy #1, which makes me feel like he's missed a few steps.
Then we get to the part with caf, where as I said before, hascow pretty much trashes caf's weak jabs at him.
Some trashing of Isacc and his Modkill plan occurs, and refutes EK's bizarre accusation of hascow having joined in on Isacc's Modkill plan.

Diagnosis: Awesome. Totally rad to the max. Looking pretty good so far.

#3: Dahill, professional Alien hunter

Starts off with the whole alien paranoia deal, votes Diablo for his delayed response to the Gnome question, and doesn't trust the lemonade.
Finally we get to the first real issue, Kmd and his random vote, specifically, the disclaimed attached to said vote. It's hardly damning evidence against kmd, but he's got a point here, and he deals with the resulting flak well.
Disagrees with the anti foreigner stance of Sly, agrees with Plums vote based on said anti foreigner stance, and throws down his own vote. He drops Kmd pretty abruptly, but considering what he had on Kmd this isn't really a big shock.
Comments on the Isacc explosion in light of hascow's vote, and sticks him on a suspicion list under Kmd.
Follows cow on abusing Sly for meta defense and Sly's general abrasive nature.
Wants a Sly claim and doesn't see how people were coming to conclusions about no lynches and unlynchable and etc, which is reasonable considering it was basically baseless speculation.
Jabs Kmd for his sudden shift on Sly and for his assumptions about how Sly's role works, with good reason.
Disagrees with the 'scumslip' deal.

(I'll deal with this more when I reach EK/Imaginality)

Suspicion list as of Sly's question equals Kmd/EK/Beelzebub, and pushes Kmd to hammer in case of a Supersaint eventuality.
That's about it for notable dahill contributions.

Summary: Could have more content, but what's actually there looks pretty solid to me.

#4: Lucifer

He's pretty cool. Yeah.

Conclusion: Pretty cool indeed.

#5: elvis_knits, famous for puppies and scumslips

Shanks the mod by posting before the rules are up.
Mentions searching for something, gives nothing more on it. Distrusts lemonade.
Slaps a vote down on Coheed for not attempting to scumhunt, which seems pretty hypocritical given EK's current contributions.
EK discovers the musical talents of the Numa Numa guy.
Does make a good point when questioning Sly's accusation of Kmd being overdefensive.
"Sly's Foreign Language Stance is scummy" agreement, and attacks sly some more for his "Trying to start conversation" deal.
Calls Old Nick scum for an unexplained vote on Kmd

(Uh... What?)

and then links Baphomet and Sly together in a pretty bizzare and unexplained way.

(No really, what?)

Defends Isacc against Hascow, saying hascow singled out Isacc when several people were defending Kmd. It seems odd, since Hascow had already clarified his point when Isacc first exploded.
Makes good points about the 'unlynchable' deal as well as Sly's changing story. Mirrors the general consensus that Isacc's modkill plan is dumb, but psuedo-defends him stating he's done it before.
And then, the 'scumslip' deal. It starts with something pretty weak, taking Imaginalitys comments on Sly not grouping himself with the 'townies' and declaring it to be a scum slip. Strangely, the biggest complaint to this is raised by Plum who manages to miss the mark completely, attacking EK for changing the subject after Sly explained why he used the phrasing he did. This completely falls through though, because Sly explained it before EK ever called it a scum slip. Isacc also tries to push this "changed the subject" angle. It's very bizarre and really, out of all the people involved in the argument over the Scumslip thing, EK comes out looking the best despite not really showing anything of substance against Sly.
After Sly fails at being lynched, she announces her runnerup suspects to be Dagon, for his 'weird bandwagon vote' on Kmd

(What?)

and Hascow, for supporting Isacc's modkill plan.

(What?)

As above, hascow trashes this ridiculous accusation and EK asserts that there is something wrong with hascow voting destruct while thinking Isacc's modkill plan is bad, and votes him.
Then she posts a really hurtful accusation that the Antichrist was not going to deliver on his promise, and that's EK all wrapped up.

Synopsis: EK has been acting pretty strangely, and there is several things that strike me as being off. A bit suspicious of her, but mostly confused.

#6: Glorken, and several bottles of alcoholic potatoes.

Those poor V's. So used to easy times, they have been mercilessly overworked by Glorken.
Apparently he cannot vote for players in the game. Distrusts lemonade without knowing cafs alignment, and calls Imaginality's Numa 'boolsheet'.
Calls Chernobog Obvscum, no reasons.
Adds Destructor to the Obvscum list, again no reasons.
Adds Sly to the list of people he would like to see lynched. No reasons given.
Demotes Destructor from Obvscum to 'Maybe just Stupid'.
Suggests that scum would be more likely to buy lemonade because they would know Caf is pro town, which is strange.

(Already covered this)

Hilarious condom animals ensue.
Blam! A real post from Glork flies onto the page after an 11 day hiatus. Calls EK town for questioning the way people assumed Sly's unlynchable status.
He then proceeds to burn Destruct for his German posts. The biggest problem here though is his theory involves Zaizer faking a restriction, Destructor coming in without noticing and posting in English, then having to make something up to explain the English posts. This falls apart though because the first 2 posts Destructor made were in German.
He also calls Isacc town for his Modkill plan, and Plum suspicious for attacking said modkill plan.
Also calls Dahill town. And Kmd. Reasons are scarce.
Turns out Destructor went Godzilla on Glorken's faked PR theory, and he admits as such. He keeps destructor at the top of his supicions though, shifting the reasoning to destructor's asking Glorken to claim and calling Glorken useless because of his lack of vote.
Responds to Isacc and Plum yelling at him for using 'Obvtown' to describe Kmd and EK. His full response is good and has so far gone untouched by either Isacc or Plum.
Finally, he posts another good post about the Prince of Darkness wagon, and specifically Destructor's vote on it. He sums up exactly my thoughts on Destructors apparent train of thought.

Final Thoughts: Although to start with his posting was seriously lacking, he's picked up the ball.

--

So, this is only 6/12.

Since the deadline is soon

(Unless the request for a deadline extension is accepted, which I would like to

second

, by the way)

I have decided to post this half prematurely.

If I get the chance I'll post up the other half and combine the two to decide who is most suspicious.

Unvote

[Darox]

I think Darox is the play today. His participation has been pathetic. The fact that he has promised things and not come through really makes me suspicious. Combined with the bandwagon vote on KMD with no explanation, he remains my choice.

what are your thoughts on him now that he's completed the review?

I don't like his review. It's only of half the people in the game. I don't like that at all. When you pick only certain people to review, that makes me suspicious... like he's shaping his answers. Why choose the people he did? Why leave out the people he did? It's not like his review was only people he found scummy. He said I was scummy, buddied up to hascow and lucifer, says a whole lot of nothing about caf, dahill, and glork. I don't agree with him about hascow, and feel he was sucking up. And the only person he accused of being scummy was me, and that's basically OMGUS.

I still support his lynch.

Those are the first six people listed on the front page.

That's why I picked the people I did, and that's why I left out the people I did. Because I was only half done.

[Darox]

Glork shouldn't claim, he's picked up a lot recently in my eyes.

Big posts are hard and take time.

[Darox]

I think it was nonsense. Doing it because of his vote restriction is hardly likely to shed any light on if it will ever end

(Go ahead and count all the people that had said they can't reveal parts of their role PM)

and if anything we're just going to get "I can't vote" and maybe out a power role, neither of which sound like a good thing to do now based simply off his lack of vote.

If it's because he's scummy, I don't see it and I also don't see why Glork should claim unless we are about to lynch him.

[Darox]

I can't tell you anything about my role that won't result in death on my part.
I'd rather not have that happen. Modkills are not fun.

Vote: Destructor

, the Glorken business is a load of rubbish.
In other news, damn I'm terrible. I'd say I'll have it posted in time but I'm not sure that I will.

[Darox]

Darox I think you are lying.

At least some part of your role should be able to be revealed.

Where are you drawing this from?
The fact that Mirth is a kind and generous soul?

Ha ha ha.

[Darox]

You're suggesting that if I was lying about not being able to reveal my role, that would be anti town?

Give that man a medal.

[Darox]

I don't think we have anything better. I don't think we can get a des lynch together before deadline.

Would you prefer a Des lynch over a Darox lynch, ideally? Inquiring minds want to know.

I don't liek des's push on Glork and pushing him to claim. It's something I would and have advocated as scum. You can say: "Get rid of the guy who can't vote because that hurts the town!" But what you really mean is: "This guy is an easy lynch! I don't care who dies today as long as it's not me!" Unless Glork is acting scummy, there's no reason to auto lynch him because he can't vote today.

So, I'm not a fan of des. But every time darox opens his mouth, he makes me nervous. He hasn't provided good reasoning for his votes, and has promised us stuff like reads on people, and then not finished them, buddied up tremendously to hascow for no reason, voiced suspicions of me which are blatant OMGUS. And his "I can't claim or I'll be modkilled" could be true, but it's also ultra-convenient.

Hot tip, calling it OMGUS might be a good way to discard points against you, but if it's not actually OMGUS you start looking scummier for having tried to throw away legit points by handwaving them.

As for the analysis, unfortunately in the pile of things I have to do, this game isn't currently high enough that I have the time to do the rest of my analysis.

Oh yeah, and calling hascow pro town =/= buddying. Try harder.

[Darox]

As for the analysis, unfortunately in the pile of things I have to do, this game isn't currently high enough that I have the time to do the rest of my analysis.

Scum caught not wanting to give the town more info.

Town Darox would consider this game high priority right now.

God that is terrible logic.

That's like the assumption that only scum fight hard to avoid their own lynch.
News flash buddy - I'm not a jester, so dying hurts everyone who shares my alignment. Period.

[Darox]

How can you manage to miss this again and again?

I don't have anything coherent and readable I can post right away, because I haven't been able to devote the necessary time needed to do so.

[Darox]

Calling hascow pro town is buddying? I must be buddying with Glork then too.
Blimey, I am a bad person aren't I?

Isacc, maybe you shouldn't try lying through your teeth and simplifying everything down till you corrupt its meaning. Go on, please take a look through what I said on hascow and try to say with a straight face that I think everything he did was right. I'll be waiting here when you are wrong.

[Darox]

Oh yeah, and anyone saying "we can't do anything about it now" is lying through their teeth and trying to not get involved.

[Darox]

Darox: I'm lying through my teeth? HAH. Funny. OMGUS much?

Let's look through your post again, at your request...

Line 23: "The scummiest thing I see here is the thing with hascow about who hascow suspects and cafs various responses to this. Wary of Caf for now."

You find Caf suspicious for disagreeing with Has.

"He defends himself pretty well against Isacc's knee jerk attack."
"he pretty much stomps all over the people protesting his suspicion of Isacc. Several times."
"hascow pretty much trashes caf's weak jabs at him."
"Some trashing of Isacc and his Modkill plan occurs, and refutes EK's bizarre accusation of hascow having joined in on Isacc's Modkill plan."

Wow, you didn't buddy up AT ALL!

I will admit, you make one comment where you say Hascow confuses you, for jumping on Sly so fast. But instead of calling it suspicious, or scummy, you say it seems like he was confused. Wtf?

Yeah, I am DEFINITELY lying through my teeth there. You are SO right...Oh wait, no you're not.

Hey Darox, explain to me why we should trust the guy who has posted so very little real content so far? You've actively lurked 90% of the game. Scummy much?

You fail at lying and diverting suspicion btw.

Please quote for me where I said it seemed like he was confused.
Please quote for me where I ever used the word confused.
Please tell me how believing the incorrect attacks (Like EK saying hascow was in on your modkill plan) were wrong makes me hascows buddy.

Please tell me how any of this is relevant and/or scummy.

Take your time.

Also sly, firing off a quick response and doing an analysis are two very different beasts with very different time consumptions.

[Darox]

Darox: Your "please quote me" defenses, are irrelevant and don't disprove the point I was making. You're arguing straw man here, which is majorly scummy.

Also, I have explained more times than should be necessary why you are buddying. If you do not feel you need to disprove my points, then feel free to keep acting the way you are. However, you are doing a crap job of being pro-town.

"Please tell me" how a player can contribute next to no content and still expect to act scummy and not be lynched?

Bzzt wrong.

You spouted off that I was saying several things. I'm challenging you to actually back up those words with proof.

So tell me, why is this perceived buddying relevant or scummy?

As for your question, why don't you tell me, master?

Also Sly: Yeah, I said that. I haven't done much about it.

[Darox]

Darox: Again, strawman arguments, ignoring the issue.

And if your analysis isn't ready, list off everyone and tell us whether you find them more scummy or more townie. Hell, do SOMETHING than just pathetic strawman defense. You're being as unhelpful as can be. Stop being anti-town.

Thanks for telling us what you're doing.

Why don't you actually answer my questions instead of shrugging them off in the smug self satisfaction that you think it won't matter cause I'll be dead.

[Darox]

Elvis, Isacc, and Destructor.

[Darox]

Oh yeah, and I stopped the Versus thing because I completed what I had to do.

[Darox]

I'm slightly regretful over lynching Darox, because I was enjoying his "who would win in a fight" questions. lol

It was the best way I saw to fulfil my win condition quickly and painlessly. Worked surprisingly well.

I definitely had the feeling that if I had procrastinated less I probably wouldn't have been lynched though, so damn my lazy attitude.