Mind Screw Mafia 3 (OVER)

[ShadowGirl]

Vote: Tar

And now, I'll read the first two MS games to figure out exactly what I should expect... Other then pure madness, of course.[/b]

[ShadowGirl]

Vote: Tar
FOS: Tar

I suggest we wagon this to an actual majority, since in the lat two games there was information available to the players if they did so.

Let's try it, shall we?

Unvote: Context
Vote: Tarhalindur
FoS: Tarhalindur

I actually have to start talking now.

Don't lynch him, you'll lynch me if you do.

Isn't that the point?

[ShadowGirl]

Unvote.

Well... At least some info came out of this wagon. o_o

Hope to hear more from... Tar... person...

[ShadowGirl]

Qwints PR seems like it's be problematic to get responses out of him. So he can only say things that people have already said?
Yes.
No.
[To test it out, I guess.]

I don't like the person behind Tar is hiding their votes on purpose, but I don't think we have much else to go on about the nature of their alignment.

[ShadowGirl]

@Shadowgirl: Why unvote when the wagon has gone nowhere? The risk benefit here tells us that wagoning to a lynch has a chance to give us important information early on.

Also, hiya. Good to see you again.

Hi, good to see you as well!

I'm just not quite certain if that... certain 'PR' is indicative of their alignment. As well, I don't want a lynch within the first five or so pages when some people haven't even posted yet.

@Emp:
Why the claim?

Can you elaborate on your win conditions, if possible?

[ShadowGirl]

I think its the best time to claim.

Its just regular survivor win conditions.

Well, I asked because the person speaking through Tar has said that they have two conditions that need to be met for them to win.

What I don't get is how you only have an ultimate, but no ability in a game where everyone has abilities.

So, Emp to clarify:
You're a survivor and Aries is some sort of seeking mason?

Aries:
What is your role?

[ShadowGirl]

Ah, true, I guess everyone will just have an ultimate - those without abilities I guess are the 'vanillas' of this setup.

@Aries: How is Emp mentioned in your role? Just that you can communicate to him, but no other info given about the nature of his role?

@Emp: Was Aries mentioned in your PM?

[Sorry if I'm asking questions that you've answered, I'm currently skimming the last five pages.]

[ShadowGirl]

@Aries: Is that how it's spelled from your PM? Shanki?

[ShadowGirl]

Giving a name wouldn't count as quoting your PM.

So: is that the correct spelling? Positive?

[ShadowGirl]

These two statements don't seem to match:

I claimed survivor to get my ultimate. I said that before.

Yes, I am a mason with Aeris. I didn't say so because I didn't want to out him/her.

I'm a survivor. I know that a role is looking to be a mason with me. I kept that secret. My ultimate is that when I claim I get a one shot NK immunity.

[ShadowGirl]

And there's this:

He is a seeking mason or at least that's what my role PM says.

In your PM does it say that

Aries

is the person seeking you or that just a play in general is seeking you?

[ShadowGirl]

EBWOP:

Play = Player

[ShadowGirl]

Explain: why'd you just vote yourself and then Aries?

Explain: Inconsistencies with your claim. [Unless your PM exploded upon receiving it, you should be able to look up those facts.]

[ShadowGirl]

Explain: why'd you just vote yourself and then Aries?

Explain: Inconsistencies with your claim. [Unless your PM exploded upon receiving it, you should be able to look up those facts.]

hes probably trying to trick the host into thinking 2 people voted against me, when its just him twice

Uh... What good would that do? Also... how would he do that? It's easy to just count the votes...?

[ShadowGirl]

Explain: why'd you just vote yourself and then Aries?

Explain: Inconsistencies with your claim. [Unless your PM exploded upon receiving it, you should be able to look up those facts.]

I was just annoyed.

Their are no inconsistencies.

And there's this:

He is a seeking mason or at least that's what my role PM says.

In your PM does it say that

Aries

is the person seeking you or that just a play in general is seeking you?

General.

I claimed survivor to get my ultimate. I said that before.

Yes, I am a mason with Aeris. I didn't say so because I didn't want to out him/her.

There's a different between:
a) someone seeking you and being your buddy
b) having the name of said person in your PM

[ShadowGirl]

But you said you had their name in your PM, so you would know who you were outing...

So, lynch count has been reached but he hasn't been lynched? Does that mean the total votes out are how many we need to lynch?

[ShadowGirl]

Oops. Didn't see Tar's post.

...

[ShadowGirl]

is it possible for psychologists to be in knowlegde of people other than Sk's? either way empkings behavior warranted a lynch, even if he was townie, as bad townies arent good for the towns progress

Not in general, but this is Mind Screw.

[ShadowGirl]

Would Jesterbomb only kill one person, though?

Since SSK was the only one on his lynch that just died.

[ShadowGirl]

Ouch. Does that mean you lost, Caboose?

[ShadowGirl]

Emp, you seem to get lynched way too easily.

Hm, for Aries' claim... I'm starting to think about the possibility that he might turn people into SKs. o_O But I could just be paranoid about this Mind Screw stuff.

[ShadowGirl]

Ouch. Does that mean you lost, Caboose?

Yeah. I personally think that it's a stupid win con. I was acting mad scummy and had a good bandwagon going. Then Empking comes in, claims survivor and immediately is lynched.

And here I thought you were just being your normal lovable self. ;P

I pity you - going up against Emp to try and get lynched.

[ShadowGirl]

Emp, you seem to get lynched way too easily.

Hm, for Aries' claim... I'm starting to think about the possibility that he might turn people into SKs. o_O But I could just be paranoid about this Mind Screw stuff.

i emphasise townie psychologist, and town seem to be triumphing so far!

Is that so?

Well, I guess ridding the town of Jesters is pretty good.

[ShadowGirl]

And here I thought you were just being your normal lovable self. ;P

Do I really normally act like I just did?

No, not at all.

[ShadowGirl]

Especially considering you voted in pretty much every post. You seemed a little too obvious.

Did you need to be specifically lynched D1?

[ShadowGirl]

Probably because we were all too interested with Emp.

Well... Emp pretty much got his dream role.

[ShadowGirl]

At least... we got rid of all the Jesters.

I definitely think we should decide whether we're going to leave Tar be 'til lylo (probably not a good idea) or whenever, or if we're going to lynch him now.

[ShadowGirl]

Qwints: Explain why you faked the PR?

I agree with Xylthixlm that tajo's posts are intuitively naff. But the same thing can be said about BlakAdder, Electra, and ShadowGirl, IMO.

How so?

Variable, you should have known what you were signing up for... So:

Fos: TehVariable

Vote: Tar

[ShadowGirl]

Alright, will do - I most certainly didn't expect the day to end within the oh so many hours it was.

The thing on Tar is... pretty WIFOM-ish. Would he put a player in charge so that we would be least likely to lynch him? Should we just treat him like a normal player, and just consider it a 'regular' PR? I'm just wondering if the Tar thing has any more.... mechanics added onto his lynch? (Ill made sentence, bah...)

[ShadowGirl]

I mean, not that it's Tar, but whether something... will happen specifically because of his lynch. (I very much believe it's a player speaking through him.)

[ShadowGirl]

No, SSK was just invisible.

[ShadowGirl]

Unvote.

@dahill: Ah, okay. Hrn... Well, didn't the person say they had limited space? I don't know how much we'll be able to get out of them. I guess it probably is better to just treat them like a regular player...

[ShadowGirl]

All votes are counting for the next person down on the player list. Votes on Tar wrap around to Context.

unvote popuarltajo, vote XSilentSinX[/b]

Xplains plz.

FoS: Xylthixlm

The PR was faked since the guy himself said so. I think that it might have been just him not wanting to get lynched. Yea, now that you look at it, it kinda looks scummy. But, I don't want people to lynch him until we get solid evidence. Qwints, elaborate on the Ultimate, cuz from what I can assume, you didn't activate it.

[/b]

He already said he wasn't going to elaborate any more on it - it seems like you're ability fishing.

[ShadowGirl]

Not really. Meta me. It's not abnormal for me to play like this.

I, as well don't like you using your meta as a defense. :/

Don't you have anything else to say about your actions?

[ShadowGirl]

Vote: qwints

(BlakAdder)

I think Tar would be a good idea - that way we wouldn't waste a lynch and possibly activate something bad...

[ShadowGirl]

At least we know for sure that Pac and DoS aren't the mysterious Tar voice...

[ShadowGirl]

At least we know for sure that Pac and DoS aren't the mysterious Tar voice...

nope it could still be DoS
Tar said he hadn't picked up his PM reminding him Day 2 had started and the person posting via Tar hasn't posted Day 2 yet, so it make sense actually.

Oh. Very true.

[ShadowGirl]

@Tar person: Didn't you say that you had a limited number of posts? You seem to be posting lots of small bits. :/

[ShadowGirl]

Right. I shouldn't try and post at the same time as I'm doing a project. I somehow misread his reveal post as him being something else other then himself and a hidden player... Not that I'm quite sure how that would work out.

Mind screw.

[ShadowGirl]

So... is there any reason to let Tar live? Because I don't really see one.

[ShadowGirl]

So, we have a cult, hm? Something seems odd about how Context says... 'that phrase' every day, but ehh...

@Has: What's with the numbers in your posts?

@Tar mod: Can you replace DoS name with has' in the vote counts/FoS counts? It makes me think he's still in the game when he's been replaced.

[ShadowGirl]

@HasL I found the answer, thank you - all I remember is you saying something vague about you needing to remember something.

@Context: Why would say that?

[ShadowGirl]

Are you guys actually serious? You got rid of Tar without me? Grr. Oh well.

What's with asking for a prod for me? I tried to post yesterday, but the thread was locked, and I get home around now each day.

I'm for Seraphim for today, since XSilentSinX was my top suspect yesterday.

Vote: Shadowgirl

(Seraphim)

My laptop decided to commit suicide, so I'll be rather LA until I can figure out how to fix it. I'll still try to post, but I won't be around much.

Was the thread locked at some time?

Yeah, it was locked while Tar was trying to sort out D3.

[ShadowGirl]

@Vi: You're only basing your vote on my two last posts? As well, I've been asking a question in each of those posts.

@The matter of DGB: I've never played with her before but I have read a few of her games so I don't see anything too suspect, though, I am curious as to why all of a sudden she thinks Tajo is cult.

I doubt I'm the worst lurker, anyway.

I don't really like this response. :/ Just because you're not the worst that means we shouldn't pay any mind to you?

FoS: Cephrir

[ShadowGirl]

@Vi: You're only basing your vote on my two last posts? As well, I've been asking a question in each of those posts.

No, I'm basing my vote on how all of your posts are either "me-too" wagon hops/explanations, asking questions that have either already been answered or already asked, or talking about relatively mundane things about the setup. No actual scumhunting appears to be going on.

Is it a crime to agree with people? Also, the two wagons I was on were for the good of town. And considering how this game works, I think setup questions are valid. As well, I'm kind of scatterbrained - so yes, I will ask things that have been answered.

It's pretty ridiculous how many people are dying as well as how many people are posting so it a bit hard to really get a read on people, but I am formulating suspicions.

I'd like everyone not to forget in most games the mafia cannot be recruited. It'd be convenient for DGB mafia to claim a steadfast ultimate.

I'm not sure where to lean in this. DGB is near impossible to read. poptaj I haven't really paid attention to.

For now,

Vote Stef

(Cephrir)

I have to decide if I want to do something or not.

Er, isn't the pop vs. DGB more important than Cephrir? There's something EXTREMELY OFF with pop's behvior, and you're fretting over Cephrir?

I concur with this statement.

Also, why does the reveal one either of Tajo or DGB clear the other? (To a certain extent, perhaps...)

[ShadowGirl]

Under some easily fulfilled conditions relating to the number of votes I get, I am not recruitable. That condition was satisfied yesterday, and on that day, I received a mod PM stating that I was targeted. I don't know by who, or in what capacity.

I'll claim the targeting. Every action I take will trigger when my ultimate activates. My ultimate happens when I die.

That means you targetted DGB, right?So, DGB any comments of this?

EXCELLENT POINT, I missed that post.

Pesco also said: "I'm not really interested in pursuing DGB as I've already taken action there." And his targeting activates after he dies.

I suspect his action on me was not of a benevolent nature. Pesco isn't going to look too fresh after I turn up town.

GO GO GO

Let's do it.

At this rate, it seems you are pretty confident in coming up town. My question is why every one targeting you is immediately suspect to you?

Why wouldn't she be confident in coming up town? As well, I believe she previously voted herself, so...

[ShadowGirl]

Suspicion list (from what I can think of immeaditly)
Tajo for this:

I just want to ask something : If DGB comes up town that means I am scum? Or if DGB come sup scum does that mean Im confirmed town?

While I'm not sure whether he is a cult recruiter, but I do believe he is some sort of third party role. By asking this question it seems that he doesn't want to be condemned if DGB comes town - but interested to see if he'd reap the benefits if she's turns up scum.

Pesco's claim about targetting DGB interests me, as she said her actions activate after she's dead. I could see a scum gambit coming from this...

Variable:

I smell a lurker.

Vote: Stef (Cephrir)

Original thought much? Don't like this from Xyl.[/quote]
And then going on to vote Ceph in post 785 as if his behaviour had just come to light. While Ceph's next post was scummy, I don't think see how it would have completely given him a new view on him. Seems like a... placeholder vote, just so it seems he's voting and actively participating.

Ceph:

Yeah, I know it doesn't make sense. There are so many people in this game that it moves fast in terms of posts without a lot happening, and I don't have nearly enough of a handle on potential suspects here so I don't have as much to contribute.

I doubt I'm the worst lurker, anyway.

This post, as I've mentioned before (which earned an FoS): for seeming like he can just point fingers at other, worse lurkers and let the suspicion on him be put on hold.

[ShadowGirl]

EBWOP:

I smell a lurker.

Vote: Stef (Cephrir)

Original thought much? Don't like this from Xyl.

[ShadowGirl]

Xyl, are you reading the thread?

I, quite frankly, wonder if ANYONE has actually read the thread.

Thread? What thread?

I don't see no thread.

I can't think of an anti-Town reason for TehVariable to have used Whack-a-Mole offhand tbqh.

Scum trying to find a poweful PR?

[ShadowGirl]

Not even rolename?

[ShadowGirl]

Hm. I can't say I can think of an anti-town reason to activate this either...

[ShadowGirl]

I'd like to note that you'd be getting only a couple posts from every twenty four hours. (You know, school and sleep...) And that's it seems I'm only here every four pages.

Suffice to say, Tajo seems to be stubborn as ever.

I'm interested in Pesco, however - her role seems like she could possibly kill those once she dies, and I'm not sure if I want to keep her around enough rounds 'til all those actions amass to quite a number once she dies.

I'd like more from Ceph, however.

[ShadowGirl]

Seems like a... wonky kind of ultimate condition, but anyway,

In light of this news and figure out whether Pesco's abilities are for the good of the town or not. 'Clearing someone' when they're dead is pretty open ended as to what could happen.

Either that or Ceph.

[ShadowGirl]

Vote qwints

(Shadowgirl)

Come out from the sidelines please. The last 2 posts were just fillers for activity.

Not true. I'm stating my suspicions - as well, this vote seems kind of OMGUSy. As well, what do you think of Ceph whom is not posting to all?

Same response to Vi.

I'd like to point out the timestamps on my posts here as well as on my other games - there's no magical lurking that I'm specifically doing in this game.

Kai lying to us is bad, but I do not think he should be the lynch today. IF during twinight he's killed, then whatever. But with the current claim he doesn't pose any threat to us, and hopefully his abilities aid the town.

My current optimal whack a mole candidates are the same as last post. (Ceph or Pesco)

[ShadowGirl]

Kai lying to us is bad, but I do not think he should be the lynch today. IF during twinight he's killed, then whatever. But with the current claim he doesn't pose any threat to us, and hopefully his abilities aid the town.

How do you know he poses no threat since he's lying?

I meant that if his current claim is true then he poses no threat to us. I mean, he's only neutral. [If that's what he really is.] His abilities would help town more then they would hurt it, no?

I'd very, very much like Ceph post.

Can we get a prod on him or something?

Off for the night, see you.

[ShadowGirl]

Kai lying to us is bad, but I do not think he should be the lynch today. IF during twinight he's killed, then whatever. But with the current claim he doesn't pose any threat to us, and hopefully his abilities aid the town.

How do you know he poses no threat since he's lying?

I meant that if his current claim is true then he poses no threat to us. I mean, he's only neutral. [If that's what he really is.] His abilities would help town more then they would hurt it, no?

You're missing the point entirely.

Why should we believe anything he says?

What about the inconsistencies re the need to lynch Mao? Are you paying attention? If Kairyuu turns up scum... you're a good candidate to be his buddy.

It's true, we have no reason to - we all have to make our own individual conscious decision whether to or not.

He has a way to prove his claim, and thus, as has been said - if what he claims to happen doesn't, then I'm all for lynching him. I just feel that we'd be somewhat wasting an investigation about him if all we find out is that he's neutral. As well, there is the possibility of him being killed during the night. I think we should be smart if we how we use our investigation.

I'm in favour of Ceph wack-a-mole. I've already given why DGB shouldn't be WaM'd.

Unvote, Vote stef

(Ceph)

FoS Shadowgirl

. I still feel you're only posting to avoid being prodded.

Why would you think that?

Also Kai, about the pulling the thingy out of your ass, you could always have a fake-claim ability or start reading now and invent stuff. That's not any defense by any standards... especially in a MS game.

How about investigating shadowgirl? She's been shadowy enough...

Hm, I don't know what the likelihood is of him getting a fake claim. Has that happened in the previous MS games? Do you think he could really make up ten abilities that all sound legit?

Is that a gut instinct or...?

I would still very much prefer a Pesco investigation, seeing as I'm having some weird feeling about her clearing DGB. :/

[ShadowGirl]

Untrue. I've contributed to the discussion about Kai, as well to the whack a mole investigation.

Too many IRC games, I suppose. I am getting very paranoid, but for the good - what if you are a delayed vig-scum-something? If we let you live long enough, you could take a sizable chunk of town down with you. I guess I'd just like the peace of mind you're on our side. :/

[ShadowGirl]

@Pesco:

Beh, well... Mind Screw is weird like that. Though to claim like that, about your ultimate and needing to die... could be a gambit... -too much paranoia- Way too much.

@Ceph:

Posting, but no participating.

You're doing the same thing as before, pointing at the other lurkers and using that as an excuse to shift back into the shadows.

If you have more time on your hands, then post. :/

[ShadowGirl]

Vote: Stef

(Ceph)

[ShadowGirl]

Well, at least I have peace of mind that our local lurker is town.

@dahill: What makes you so sure that Kai is scum? Also, I just realized that tajo could just use that claim to keep hopping on townie wagons and get away with it. Ugh, too much paranoia...

[ShadowGirl]

Slow post is slow. I should have pressed reply before I picked up the phone.

[ShadowGirl]

Slow posting 'til Christmas.

[ShadowGirl]

Eh? When has Seph been confirmed as town? Do you mean because of his ability?

[ShadowGirl]

That he's a lie detector? I don't know if I can say that completely clears him in my mind.

[ShadowGirl]

How can he be a jester? All the jesters died on day one - from having another jester fufill their win condition before them.

So, you all lynched Kai...

[ShadowGirl]

May I suggest lynching Rule 0? If it's out of the game, we get to see the rest of the rules right?

I like this.

[ShadowGirl]

I think the whole point of lynching rule zero is so we can see all the rules - which is an alright idea, but perhaps not this late in the game.

[ShadowGirl]

Or you know... Tar could just be screwing with us and making us paranoid.

[ShadowGirl]

Based on the evidence available to me, zero unless it's possible to be culted without knowing.

If someone died and was culted, would it show?

[ShadowGirl]

So, what we should all just say...

Mafia Safeclaim?

@MM: What's with all the voting? I thought that was has' thing.

[ShadowGirl]

... third, it's a bad idea for a Mafioso to quote a post containing the words "Mafia falseclaim" when the mechanism of my player aspect's Death Note was posted in the thread. Right, DGB?"

Guys, I think it's mafia falseclaim, not mafia safeclaim.

[ShadowGirl]

Sorry for the triple post, was looking for the ability.

Death Note - Each day, you may name a player and a word or phrase that has been posted by that player in the thread. If the targeted player has received a mod PM which contains an ability whose name is the chosen word or phrase, that player will be killed. (For example, the name of this ability is Death Note.)

So, I don't think the plan works - I think that phrase was only for yesterday.

[ShadowGirl]

Due to Tar's ability, DGB died yesterday because she said the words mafia safeclaim. And I'm saying it probably won't work because that was yesterday and the key words change every day.

[ShadowGirl]

But the thing is, the phrase he might have chosen might not include the word mafia. :/

But here's to giving it a shot:
Mafia safeclaim
Mafia falseclaim
Mafia kill
Mafia groupkill
Mafia factionkill
Mafia nightkill

[ShadowGirl]

@Xyl: DGB died because of Tar's ability....

[ShadowGirl]

I'd like to note that I'm going to be away from the 4th to the 10th.

[ShadowGirl]

Death Note - Each day, you may name a player and a word or phrase that has been posted by that player in the thread. If the targeted player has received a mod PM which contains an ability whose name is the chosen word or phrase, that player will be killed. (For example, the name of this ability is Death Note.)

Even if his ability still works, it wouldn't likely be the same phrase the next day.

[ShadowGirl]

@Xyl : It does say 'each day', so I just assumed it would be different... each day. :/

[ShadowGirl]

That's what I've been saying all this time - that there's no gurantee that what we're doing will work.

[ShadowGirl]

because if activating your ultimate is good for the town, then faking [a post restriction] would have been pro-town.

This is obviously wrong.

How so?

[ShadowGirl]

The thing I did to activate my ultimate would still be anti-town if I failed to activate my ultimate.

So you're saying that your fake post restriction was a bad idea?

Yes. It also was not the only way of achieving my ultimate.

Did you ever think it might be a bad idea before you did it, or is this purely on retrospect?

[ShadowGirl]

@About the phrase: I've already said/ammended that it is possible for the same phrase to be chosen, but that we shouldn't be discouraged if the 'plan' doesn't work.

SG: Have you done anything useful this whole game?

I don't understand what you want me to say? I've been here and posting, which you can't say for a few other people.

[ShadowGirl]

o_O

Just testing this out if my vote works...

Vote: Stef

[ShadowGirl]

Why do I have the feeling Kinetic is town?

As well, what was the basis behind lynching him?

[ShadowGirl]

I thought he was quicklynched on the last page (three votes), but one of the votes was actually a confirm vote.

[ShadowGirl]

@Pesco: I'm assuming you didn't use your ability on me yesterday, then?

@has: What is it about the specific quoted post that alludes to me being scum?

[ShadowGirl]

@Pesco: I'm assuming you didn't use your ability on me yesterday, then?

Would you like to have been investigated?

Well, yes and no:
Yes: People knowing my alignment is good.
No: Would have been a waste of an investigation.

Now, I'm just interested to see exactly how many people thing I'm scummy. (Probably doesn't help that my attention sways so much.) Would you all be so kind as to FoS me?

[ShadowGirl]

Current and Final Deadline:

February 6, 2009 at ~6:00 P.M. CST (GMT -6)[/quote]

Why does it say final? Are we in lylo or something?

[ShadowGirl]

@Pesco: You still haven't answered my question.

Wow, I must be well liked. Not a single FoS? No one thinks I'm scum? ;P

Just seemed weird, is all - it never said final on any of the other vote counts.

[ShadowGirl]

Well, if we want to learn the results of the investigations then we'll need to lynch her, since the scum won't kill her. And we need to do it before lylo...

[ShadowGirl]

Qwints? What does he have to say?

Also, do you think it's worth trying the whole 'mafia safeclaim' stuff again, today?

[ShadowGirl]

Er, how would we go about doing that?

And I think qwints wasn't talking about killing her...

[ShadowGirl]

What about daykilling her? I think thats what qwints its aiming at.

Oh, I see. That would be even better, if we have the capability.

That is what I mean.

[ShadowGirl]

Would his messed up result have anything to do with that he had amnesia? o_O

Right, tajo, what are your points against me? As well, could you FoS me? [If you think I'm probably scum.] (Just so it's easier to go back and see who is suspicious of whom.)

[ShadowGirl]

I explained my reasoning behind that statement in 1477. ... Has skitzer posted in the thread recently? As well, can you... clarify your last question?

[ShadowGirl]

I thought he was quicklynched on the last page (three votes), but one of the votes was actually a confirm vote.

@skitzer: Do you mean that one time he popped up when we called his name? (This might be a reference to a different game, but I think it's this one.)

Well, yes, I am in fact - however, the question as to 'how many I need' seems odd to ask as oppose to the simple statement of 'you're begging for FoSes'. Anyway, I would like as many people to FoS me as possible.

[ShadowGirl]

Sounds like an interesting movie, and I'll definitely check into it.

I don't see the problem in the numbers very much - it is day six, so at least five would be correct... Six, however seems sort of strange, however... I don't see anything too odd about at least five (I think Tar may have mentioned that those actions still go into the shuffle.) I don't know about what could have caused a sixth, though. :/

However, may I kindly ask you to FoS me?

[ShadowGirl]

Oops.

FoS: ShadowGirl

Better.

[ShadowGirl]

Oh, sorry, that's not towards you. That's towards Tajo about you. ><

I prefer not to say the reason as to why I want FoSes, but I can say that is good for town.

[ShadowGirl]

If I tell you, whatever happens no longer becomes useful to town. :/

[ShadowGirl]

-shrug- I guess it's not so terribly bad to say it, but it would have been better not to.

If I get more then 50 % of the FoSes I have NK immunity. (This 'ability' 'activated' yesterday. Basically, my ultimate condition was to live to yesterday. [Day Five])

As well, since I believe I'm the cause of Pesco's last 'misinvestigation' I'll say the probable cause: all non kill abilities will be returned to their owner, which is why I asked whether she had investigated me, and deemed it would be a waste to investigate me.

[ShadowGirl]

Well, if I am town and scum try to use their kill on me (thinking my ability was useful, granted I had not said what it did) and they wasted their kill... that is good for town, is it not?

[ShadowGirl]

Why would I bother badgering Pesco to pick someone else if it wasn't in my interests to have as many confirmable people out there?

[ShadowGirl]

Why would I bother badgering Pesco to pick someone else if it wasn't in my interests to have as many confirmable people out there?

So that you wouldn't be investigated scum?

What would be the point? I just explained that it wouldn't work, and thus - no point in me persuading her not to investigate.

@Seraph: I am not NK Immune at this moment. I can

become

NK Immune. However, I have to go through this process everyday. As well, I can't really be cult - my previous ability is... somewhat proven, I suppose. Unless anyone else wants to say they possible tampered with the investigations?

Does everyone want a full claim from me? I'm not opposed to this, I'm just not sure I see the point, since I already explain what I do.

[ShadowGirl]

You're already voting me, but thanks for the emphasis.

I am HAL-9000 from 2001: A Space Odyssey.

Rehashing what I've already said, really:
My ultimate : (called software upgrade if you're curious) activated on Day 5. (Yesterday.) If, at the end of the day I have atleast 50 % of the FoSes I have night kill immunity for that 'night'. The next day it is reset, and the cycle continues.

My passive ability:
Compute : All non kill abilities will be copied back to their origin.

[ShadowGirl]

To clarify : my ultimate condition is to live to day five, that's not the condition of the actual ability.

[ShadowGirl]

I've had it since the beginning of the game. Is that what you're asking?

[ShadowGirl]

Yes, to the first question. No to the second - only non kill abilities that target me are sent back to their owner.

[ShadowGirl]

Sorry, I realized I wasn't previously specific that it's only abilities targetting me. Well, since you can see how the majority of Pesco's investigations turned out - otherwise all of them would have been on her if that was the case. (that all non kill abilities go back to their owner)

[ShadowGirl]

That was a misnomer on my part - I didn't realize that wording copy and reflect would have made a difference. They are reflected.

[ShadowGirl]

Well, in all other statements about it I've said that it sends the action back.

That's possible, I suppose. (Obviously I know that is not truth.)

However, for the past two days we have only had one kill per night. (Which is by the mafia {unless you believe them to all be dead?})

[ShadowGirl]

What makes you so sure that these kills were mafia kills?

... Er, did you read what I wrote? I'm merely making the assumptions it's mafia considering there's only two of them dead. As per the .... "unless you believe them to all be dead?"

[ShadowGirl]

Forgot to ask this in the same post as I answered the question:
@iamausername: What makes you doubt that they are mafia kills?

[ShadowGirl]

I'm not certain - as I've said, I'm merely making the assumption that it was mafia. Of course, it is very possible there are other killers out there who are the cause.

[ShadowGirl]

@Xyl: So, your primary reason for voting me is my claim - what is that makes you disbelieve it?

FoS: ShadowGirl

Since my FoS dissapeared. :/

[ShadowGirl]

@HP: And, what are your reasons for voting me?

[ShadowGirl]

I'd still like people to specify why they're voting for me, to see they're not just oppurtunistic scum jumping on a wagon. :/

Do you mean the mechanics of it or the flavour? [Role of a villain from a movie.]

[ShadowGirl]

I am HAL-9000 (from 2001: A Space Oddyssey)

Reflector: All non kill abilities will be redirected back to their owner.

Ultimate: Software Upgrade. Condition: Live to Day 5.

If I recieve more then 50 % of the FoSes I will recieve NK immunity for that night.

[ShadowGirl]

Win Condition : All other groups have left the game. [Trying to paraphrase.]

[ShadowGirl]

Eh, that's my bad.

My 'title' is town reflector. -shrug-

@Tajo: I don't make this game. I can't fathom way.

At the very least, if you do lynch me, can you at least all FoS me?

[ShadowGirl]

Way = Why.

[ShadowGirl]

All of you do realize that I volunteered information about Pesco's 'misinvestigation', without any need of doing so, right? How would that in any way be benificial to me as scum?

@All who are voting me: Do you believe me to be mafia, SK [if there is one?], cult, etc?

[ShadowGirl]

Because I can give to somebody else.

[ShadowGirl]

Though, I could be lying - I've been lying a lot recently. Hmm. Maybe sleep will help clear my mind.

[ShadowGirl]

Oh, and needless to say I do

not

believe ShadowGirl's current claim about the FOS's. It wouldn't even work - if she needs the FOS's at the end of the day, she'd be dead before she could use the ability.

... Eh? We're taking about FoSes, not votes.

Hook, line and sinker, keep those votes coming.

But yeah, the FoS thing I made up. And some other things. (maybe?) I haven't been keeping track.

@Vir: Did you just think all my wishy washyiness about my claim makes me more pro-town? o_O

Tajo: Why ze unvote?

[ShadowGirl]

@Your vote will be at the end of the day? Didn't you say that you needed to be the first three votes (granted it's scum, which I'm not.) to be confirmed.

[ShadowGirl]

Well... I don't think anyone is listening to you. :/

Does no one like to type? Sure 'obvious'. At least say if it's because of my claim or something else.

[ShadowGirl]

They probably should listen to me.
SG you may as well admit your scum status so that we could entertain ourselves while we wait for skitzer/more reactions.

Contrary to popular belief, I am actually not scum. Such a curious thing.

[ShadowGirl]

Do you believe I am scum, Tajo?

[ShadowGirl]

Do you believe I am scum, Tajo?

Or out of me and skitzer, who do you belive is more so scum?

[ShadowGirl]

@Xyl: Mm. As do I.

I think there's a possibility he's [Tajo] scum as well. The first three votes on a scum wagon seems shifty. Too bad you won't be able to disprove with mine.

[ShadowGirl]

I was tied between qwints and ShadowGirl; but since qwints is confirmed,

vote qwints

Previous from this post, where have you made intention to vote me?

[ShadowGirl]

Damn. Guess I'm not going to get any answers out of HP. :/

I'd like to hear more from Vir though, and his current thoughts.

I've got my eye on MM for the oppurtunistic vote. Really, does no one like to type out simple sentences any more? At least then everyone can know whether you're actually following the game or just tacking on a vote.

And bringing these questions up again:

All of you do realize that I volunteered information about Pesco's 'misinvestigation', without any need of doing so, right? How would that in any way be benificial to me as scum?

@All who are voting me: Do you believe me to be mafia, SK [if there is one?], cult, etc?

[ShadowGirl]

@Xyl: Thank you for at least answering my questions. Regardless of what my alignment is, you should still be paying attention to what I say. (This is to everyone, not really to you.)

[ShadowGirl]

Hm, should I bother with my real claim (which I have partially said, just played around with some of the details... well, most of them) or are you all satisfied with what I've said already?

[ShadowGirl]

I had the impression all of you were going to lynch me anyway. I really am a town copier, minus all the bullshit about the non kill abilities on me and the FoSes.

'kay, I'll just hang tight.

Vote: MM

(HP) For the sake of showing who I'm suspicious of.

At least I'm useful once more, even if I'm lynched.

[ShadowGirl]

I had the impression all of you were going to lynch me anyway.

Seems to turn out that way, mostly. Plus, it was interesting to gauge all of your reactions and whom were actually paying attention to what I was saying.

[ShadowGirl]

And just jumping on the wagon for the sake of it, as well.

[ShadowGirl]

Technically, I added to the claim, I think.

I just realized Compute was a lame name. No wonder I didn't bother using it again.

[ShadowGirl]

UnFoS.

Now that I've said it doesn't do anything. xD

I still want to hear from Vir. :/

[ShadowGirl]

Well, now that I'm L-1. Again? I'll do my real claim:

Hal-9000, obv.

I am indeed still (really!) a town copier. (Target someone, whatever abilities they are targetted with are copied back) Just my second ability is different, a little: my second is reflect/reflector (whatever it is) and any abilities that person is targetted with are bounced back.

And they are not exclusively used on myself, I can choose who I want to use them on. I chose myself the first couple days, then Ceph, then Xyl, then Ceph again and I did myself last night. (It's kind of that order. I think Xyl was when we got two actions.)

So, in short, this is mainly for my own amusement and partially to see if anyone cares who I target before I die, because I'm sure scum will have lots 'o fun having that nightkill being sent right back at them.

[ShadowGirl]

When did you choose which ability?

Well, I only received reflect on day four (ultimate condition was to live to day four). So up until then I was using copy. And to clarify, I used reflect on myself yesterday. I was sure Pesco was pulling some sort of bomb/vig thing. I would have believed her to be scum 'til the end.

I was hoping that all of you would have believed me enough to try out the FoS thing at least one night, and hopefully I would get killed. Better NKed then lynched.

@zwetch: No kidding. I already admitted it. xD

[ShadowGirl]

FoS: Shadowgirl

Little late on the uptake.

[ShadowGirl]

Huh? Oh noes! Shadow died!

Not yet.

Nobody wants my reflect?

[ShadowGirl]

I already did, actually. Like three days ago.

Just wondering if anybody wanted it.

As well, please look at Vir again for thinking I was more pro-town when flip flopping. And hp and his oppurtunistic wagoning, alright?

[ShadowGirl]

Wow. Just realized my role is pretty strong. Hmm. I should have only changed my claim twice. Ah, always next time.

[ShadowGirl]

I already did, actually. Like three days ago.

Just wondering if anybody wanted it.

I am town, actually. Should be interesting to see if my statistical research will end up being correct or not.

[ShadowGirl]

Nothing, nothing.

Good luck town, you'll need it.

[ShadowGirl]

Oh, and it was nice meeting you zwetsch. <3

[ShadowGirl]

Oh, tajo, you were on my wagon. ;_; I'm afraid I can't be in a relationship with someone who will backstab me. </3 xD

Well, I'll see the both of you hopefully in xylbot mafia. Unless I decide to stick to the whole 'one game' thing. Maybe that'll work better for me.

[ShadowGirl]

Off the top of my head I think HP is likely scum, MM is possible.

I'm torn on Tajo. 60/40 split.

If I have more time I'll comment on others, but at the moment I have to get off the computer lest I face dire consequences.

[ShadowGirl]

This is why you people shouldn't lynch me. I'm useful. ;P

/Bah post.