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Post Post #1224 (isolation #200) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:15 am

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std who is hu tao's partner
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Post Post #1225 (isolation #201) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:16 am

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I am going to go get lunch but wow this is so cool we're all here besides pere lol
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Post Post #1231 (isolation #202) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:20 am

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ahhhh
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Post Post #1232 (isolation #203) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:20 am

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idk man im rly like 90% of the way there to hu tao/peregrine
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Post Post #1233 (isolation #204) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:22 am

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invis just feels town here

and I think we are perceiving hu tao's play today in identical ways

each time he defends himself is just like remarkably unconvincing to me but he presents it as like "aren't I so obvious here" and the unconvincingness makes me like 1% more confident each time

I find the supposed softs remarkably unconvincing

I find the arguments about his defenses of people remarkably unconvincing
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Post Post #1250 (isolation #205) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:46 am

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In post 1247, Peregrine wrote: Also I feel there is a lot ofnposturing and insinuation around my slot but no one seems to be willing to vote me which, knowing that I am town, feels like mafia will want to it are trying to sell others on me for a final elim! (This is mostly for my notes when I read back more!)
yeah mechanically we vote in hu tao / std today because theres guaranteed to be at least one mafia there
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Post Post #1252 (isolation #206) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:12 am

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blahaoie
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Post Post #1253 (isolation #207) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:12 am

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I am just ready I think
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Post Post #1254 (isolation #208) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:13 am

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wait
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Post Post #1255 (isolation #209) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:13 am

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maybe we should im peregrine lmfao

invisibility is like 95% town here

if it's hu tao he's with peregrine

if it's std he's with peregrine
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Post Post #1256 (isolation #210) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:15 am

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I think peregrine not even attempting to COMMENT on the std vs hu tao thing is definitely just their wolf partner

if he's partnered with STD, he's about to win but he's scared to screw it up so he doesnt do anything there

if he's partnered with hu tao, it's just so confusing what to say about him in this situation lol idk

but yeah not having an interest in the v.s. I dont think is town
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Post Post #1257 (isolation #211) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:15 am

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this could be correct lmao
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Post Post #1258 (isolation #212) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:18 am

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I think peregrine ISO looks very pattered with both STD and hu tao lol.

hu tao is an unexplained strong townread, including "I don’t think I could be convinced to vote Hu Tao or Drew today! They feel town to me even if some of their posting is weird sometimes!!"

STD is the whole time null/poe but never pushed/sussed
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Post Post #1259 (isolation #213) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:19 am

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In post 218, Peregrine wrote: Dunnstral and Save the Dragons are both null for me as well, I don’t feel like I’ve seen anything from them that was really telling!!!
In post 323, Peregrine wrote: if I am correct in my reads even partially the remaining mafia are found in Not_Mafia/Bella/Dragons
In post 1074, Peregrine wrote: I targeted STD because I did not feel comfortable protecting anyone on the HEM wagon and I thought their posts were town!
:sob: eh
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Post Post #1260 (isolation #214) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:21 am

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ok never mind

that was a funny dream but it's probably still correct to go hu tao here
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Post Post #1261 (isolation #215) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:29 am

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final justification post in case it's wrong: I think invisibility said something similar to this that best describes it, like, hu tao came in today 100% with an agenda of me -> std lims, but in a way where if he's town it's not well justified enough

like I dont believe he ever truly considered invis or peregrine as town shouuuuuuuld

and the reasoning why he didnt do that is simply too weak
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Post Post #1262 (isolation #216) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:31 am

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and yeah like, every line of self-defense reasoning he does is just so unconvincing to me that it's wolfy

"I directed votes away from bob" is just one example but it keeps coming to mind
the recent "why would I claim a guilty here as scum" was just like not at all a convincing line of thought

and then, I think he's portraying himself as obvious town in a way that just objectively doesnt make sense, and I think that LAMIST attitude feels rly Forced rather than he genuinely thinks it
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Post Post #1263 (isolation #217) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:31 am

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ok

VOTE: hu tao

go with god
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Post Post #1264 (isolation #218) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:10 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #1265 (isolation #219) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:10 am

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I returned to this tab and realized I wanted to vote peregrine cuz I could see std being the mafia
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Post Post #1266 (isolation #220) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:11 am

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but then I realized I could honestly see the way this day has gone as std/hu tao being w/w
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Post Post #1267 (isolation #221) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:11 am

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VOTE: hu tao

eh

nvm
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Post Post #1268 (isolation #222) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:11 am

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if inivisibility could come here and say hi im not quick hammering scum that could be nice
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Post Post #1271 (isolation #223) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:01 am

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wow thank u interesting
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Post Post #1273 (isolation #224) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:02 am

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What do u think about the suggestion that hu Tao/std is w/w lol
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Post Post #1275 (isolation #225) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:03 am

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If I return to thinking that it’s not then maybe I want to lim peregrine today
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Post Post #1277 (isolation #226) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:04 am

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In post 1274, Invisibility wrote:
In post 1266, sheepsaysmeep wrote: but then I realized I could honestly see the way this day has gone as std/hu tao being w/w
can you elaborate on this
Std is low motivation to fight hard and hu Tao approach today is just weird in a way that I don’t get

Idk

I forgot what mainly made me suddenly think that
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Post Post #1278 (isolation #227) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:04 am

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It’s just weird

Before I couldn’t even see it but now I can possibly SEE it

Like I was confused why he picked std lmao

This is an ok explanation
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Post Post #1279 (isolation #228) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:06 am

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like I wanna vote peregrine but thats only correct if I can be 99%+ sure that it's not hu tao/std

and it didnt feel like I can be that 99% anymore when theyre being like so remarkably unconvincing why the other is wolf lol
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Post Post #1281 (isolation #229) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:11 am

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ehhhh yeah I see it but maybe a stretch
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Post Post #1284 (isolation #230) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:14 am

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ok I concluded hu tao/std isnt w/w again lol

my reasons:

hu tao tryna push std for a while, more than just today, feels much more like w -> v than possibly w/w

I remembered I thought this point before: hu tao - std was already in an ok enough position to not need some weird guilty claiming

the set up by hu tao felt much more like w -> v than w/w, like how he did it so dramatically and how he's arguing kinda desperately / lamistly

the type of self defense std is doing also doesnt feel w/w lol idk
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Post Post #1286 (isolation #231) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:15 am

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lmao yeah this gamestate is just weird

neither side is even being convincing for themselves we are just figuring it out

and I guess I thought w/w was a good explanation lol
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Post Post #1287 (isolation #232) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:15 am

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yeah I think like

hu tao seems genuinely a bit desperate here which I think is like 90x more paired with peregrine than paired with std wolf
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Post Post #1288 (isolation #233) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:16 am

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ok

hu tao/peregrine final answer
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Post Post #1292 (isolation #234) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:32 am

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VOTE: peregrine ya sure lol
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Post Post #1293 (isolation #235) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:32 am

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scary
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Post Post #1294 (isolation #236) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:34 am

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it's even more guaranteed from my pov I think this is like objectively correct lol

sorry if a throw
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Post Post #1331 (isolation #237) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:34 pm

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gg wp

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Post Post #1332 (isolation #238) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:36 pm

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I think invis did fine there, I feel sorta bad lol I very much targeted convincing him specifically due literally just to unfortunate activity circumstances

and I think the points made for hu tao < std were all good points that made lots of sense and coming into that day it was pretty hard for town to win that
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Post Post #1333 (isolation #239) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:36 pm

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that said. I do agree that setup-wise hu tao / peregrine makes no sense lol and I didnt even notice that. I guess there is indeed something to learn about tunnel vision
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Post Post #1334 (isolation #240) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:37 pm

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In post 1324, Invisibility wrote:
In post 686, sheepsaysmeep wrote: im used to invisibility being able to super obvtown and he is simply nothing close to that in this game
oh also I wanted to ask when the game was over is this true? I'm so used to like, being incorrigibly null, but also the last time I played Mafia regularly was like four years ago
im thinking mainly of scarfolk council where u were obvtown d1 lol and generally I think people agree you have towny vibe

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