In post 8, MegAzumarill wrote:Please no poke me
Why are you poking people?
~At
Oh, well unpoke me in that case, Win.In post 30, MegAzumarill wrote:It's a replacement for a vote
or scum who could be trying to trick us. Otherwise why not just straight up claim it?In post 42, MegAzumarill wrote:Schadd is claiming jester definitely
He didn’t claim jester, he voted the ic.In post 50, MegAzumarill wrote:What gave you the impression I think scum wont claim jesterIn post 48, AtE wrote:or scum who could be trying to trick us. Otherwise why not just straight up claim it?In post 42, MegAzumarill wrote:Schadd is claiming jester definitely
~At
Are you straight up claiming jester? If not just why not just do that then?In post 51, schadd_ wrote:i am in fact being very plain here
In post 55, schadd_ wrote:does like nobody else understand the joy of voting the confirmed town person??? is Nobody upset?? frustrated?? that they don't get to do it because i did it already??
So unvote him then.In post 57, schadd_ wrote:i am not claiming jester: plainly
Eli5?In post 108, bugspray wrote:if you're a nontown you help yeet the IC. tomorrow there will be three townies so all nontowns can massclaim (on day 2) and then we form an anti town voting bloc and start doing a cycle of yeet jester -> nk townie -> yeet scum -> nk townie -> yeet jester -> nk townie -> yeet jester -> nk townie and then everyone except town losesIn post 107, AtE wrote:Heyo what up, too many pages for me to read, can someone give me a tl;dr of the game state?
-one of the heads
Good point.In post 139, MegAzumarill wrote:Jester has no incentive to eliminate IC because it risks game ending before their elimination
In post 142, Not_Mafia wrote:My parents will finally be proud of me, I will finally be able to say I've achieved something
Yeah NM, let’s not do that.In post 143, schadd_ wrote:it would make me a little unhappyIn post 140, Not_Mafia wrote:If I vote Galron will you put me to E-1?
In post 127, Jingle wrote:
At first I thought this was a joke but this means that we actually have two votes on the IC now. :/2. Players may vote using the VOTE: Vote Tags or by bolding their vote as such:Vote: Jingle.Players may vote for any number of players, including themselves.Players may not unvote.
Any news on Marty?In post 127, Jingle wrote:
I think the Marty thing is messing everything up.In post 217, MegAzumarill wrote:Cowbell is intensifying
I wish people other than the blatant jesters were active.
In post 228, Jingle wrote:Replacing Snow marty.
Yay finallyIn post 236, Jingle wrote:RH9 replaces Snow Marty.
I really like this entrance. I had been considering bugspray but your comments on RR are causing me to reevaluate that.In post 248, RH9 wrote:bugspray: Reminds me of that time GrandpaMo didn't read the setup properly, started a wagon on you, and then I won as scum even though I did basically nothing while the time I actually put effort into playing as scum, I lost. That's why I think that bugspray not reading the rules properly isn't AI.In post 244, MegAzumarill wrote:Rh9 what do you think about other slots
RR: I remember that they were quite capable of emulating a Town mindset as scum and I wrongly TRed them for it. Not sure if I should trust them considering that.
Winfried: Seems all right. 26 seems like a good concern on RR's idea.
AtE: Seems very nice and considerate to want to wait for Snow marty. I agree with 53. 146 seems like good advice.
schadd:I can't tell what it is trying to do. Voting N_M and Galron both seem like disastrous ideas. The apology seems genuine. 80 interests me. Case on RR in 65 makes sense.
N_M: I think he's acting like usual, if not acting in a more exceptional way. I think that this is a bit odd because he's never been this enthused on me voting him in the two or so completed games that we've played together in.
MegAzumarill (you): 11 seems like good advice. I would definitely avoid voting unless I feel somewhat certain. 20 is obvious sarcasm. I agree with 226. I agree with 21.
Galron: IC
(Caveat: These are just preliminary reads based on a quick skim of the game. They may change at any given time without warning.)
Can you elaborate on this? I especially don’t understand RH9?In post 311, Not_Mafia wrote:Scum is MegAzumarill and RH9 btw
Yeah, maybe NM could be on to something. Don’t think I want to vote bugspray anymore.In post 326, MegAzumarill wrote:IF it is a jester flip I think the game is solved
RR, Shadd, N_M -> Jester
Bugspray, ???-> mafia
Galron, MegAzumarill, RH9, ???-> Town
WinFried/AtE making up the last mafia slot
Donk!In post 330, Jingle wrote:Not_Mafia, pack your bags. You’re going to Clown College!
Not Mafia was a jester and has won the game!
I’m torn now between RR and Meg. I haven’t liked bugspray but I don’t like how both of them have been pushing them.In post 341, schadd_ wrote:i continue to be willing to vote rad rat as well incidentally.
Why would we ever want to elim the IC? That just helps scum. You want to risk the game on jesters townsiding or is this a troll?In post 362, Radical Rat wrote:Alright so.
I had a thought, and it's PROBABLY a horrible idea, but I want to get opinions on it anyway.
Intentionally eliminating Galron.
I know I got onto schadd_ for voting him as a "joke," but hear me out. By putting ourselves into MeLo, which is what any Town elimination would do, we put the game in danger of ending. Any surviving Jesters are now incentivized to hunt scum, because another Town elimination is game over, with them still alive. They are also disincentivized from simply pushing each other, if they find the other, because it's going to be exponentially harder for the last Jester to get killed.
So we have Jesters forced into Townsiding while we hopefully find the scumteam, and though by the same token the Jesters must Scumside after the first Mafia is hit, the change in behavior should be noticeable enough to avoid eliminating them.
You never elim IC period!In post 364, Radical Rat wrote:It's counter-intuitive, yes, but consider bugspray does flip Mafia, as expected.In post 363, MegAzumarill wrote:Okay maybe you are jester
We never elim galron
Why intentionally make elo if we hit it worst case scenario anyway?
We try to get scum and if somehow bugspray is town we are just in that situation but better.
Now the remaining two Jesters will play indistinguishably from scum.
Eliminating Town though, that forces the Jesters to help us find scum, and then when they have to change sides after the first scumflip they expose themselves as Jesters, and we know to avoid them
Say what?In post 383, Radical Rat wrote:bugspray is likely MafiaIn post 381, MegAzumarill wrote:Additionally even if ideally they'd be identical, in practice it is unachievable
What are your other reads?
schadd_ is likely Jester
RH9 is likely Town
You and WINFried could be anywhere, but I lean Town on you and lean Jester on WINFried
AtE is Town if you're not, Mafia otherwise
Galron is confirmed Town, obviously.
Rn, probably RR. I don’t buy his elim IC argument. I don’t think jester seriously makes that argument as you I think pointed out initially, that jester doesn’t want to touch the IC and he isn’t just voting the IC, he’s actively encouraging an elim on them. So I would elim RR for that.In post 384, MegAzumarill wrote:Looking through ISOs I found thisIn post 359, AtE wrote:Yeah, maybe NM could be on to something. Don’t think I want to vote bugspray anymore.In post 326, MegAzumarill wrote:IF it is a jester flip I think the game is solved
RR, Shadd, N_M -> Jester
Bugspray, ???-> mafia
Galron, MegAzumarill, RH9, ???-> Town
WinFried/AtE making up the last mafia slot
AtE who would you prefer to vote now and why
Galron is already town and why is your name juxtaposed with bugspray?In post 385, WINfried wrote:Bugspray seems even more obvious today as they did not self hammer yesterday and I really do not think they are town. So, I don't see anything else that could be preferable today really.
I don't think RH9 is town after their entrance yesterday and I am puzzled why both RR and Meg see him as town, what. I mean he hammered NM, when bugspray was at E-1 and actively did not self-hammer. What about that is town?
Assuming bugspray flips scum, town would then be for me:
Me, Galron, AtE, Shadd
Which leaves for not town:
RH9, RR, Meg
RH9 leans into jester, as them voting for NM looked pretty bad, and I think intentionally. This way they got NM eliminated and started to set up their own elimination.
RR leans into scum, I think they clearly don't want to get elimmed but their votes still seem like they don't care much who exactly goes down.
I am getting conflicting signals by Meg. Don't really know where in which camp to put them.
I don’t know why any of that necessarily makes him town? Both jester or scum could pretend to act townie in this setup.In post 387, WINfried wrote:After their entry, almost all of their posts seem to be driven by town motivation. And as I said before, it wouldn't be the first time some townie did some silly bs after entering the game.
So this was the bad stuff and now just comes a wall of townpings?
+townIn post 55, schadd_ wrote:does like nobody else understand the joy of voting the confirmed town person??? is Nobody upset?? frustrated?? that they don't get to do it because i did it already??
+townIn post 65, schadd_ wrote:ok here's my first good vote
VOTE: radical rat
pedit hello! i do know the voting rules and am town. i voted galron for fun, which is actually very obviously a possibility
- so this is a blitz game and it looks like we have a handful of dawdlers in the pl here. everytime you say "poke player" imagine youre poking me in the eye socket/temple to try to give me a headache. anyway if i want to move towards a good execution meaningfully it occurs to me to act fast
- i do think that radical rat voting me was a sign of someone wanting an excuse to get a vote down, which is something that non-town alignments are generally happy to do
- idrc if i end up voting a jester. crack eggs to make an omelette
+townIn post 67, schadd_ wrote:i'm not really sold that jesters will like fool around to try to get voted
+townIn post 74, schadd_ wrote:Well i just have the one vote & incidentally i dont believe it was from town
+townIn post 94, schadd_ wrote:idt jesters would do that
+townIn post 88, schadd_ wrote:i dont think not mafia needs to be voted necessarily
+townIn post 114, schadd_ wrote:for now i might place winfried as town
+townIn post 123, schadd_ wrote:i don't see why it is most likely that they are jester
+townIn post 136, schadd_ wrote:the thing about it is that any player is capable of doing some sort of jester-like performance whenever they feel like it. i think a key aspect of bugspray's play here is that they chose to vote galron.
+townIn post 138, schadd_ wrote:was there something that changed your mind about that
+townIn post 169, schadd_ wrote:sooort of neutral on azumarill. i slightly suspect that they arent a jester ?
+townIn post 190, schadd_ wrote:do u have any ideas as to who your partner is
+townIn post 281, schadd_ wrote:id be inclined to think rh9 is one of the several town. which also helps explain the period before the rep in where it felt like everyone that was posting was a wolf
Makes senseIn post 391, Galron wrote:In post 270, bugspray wrote:So you want jester!me to win?In post 254, Radical Rat wrote:Alright, and did you also not read the game's description before signing up?In post 252, bugspray wrote:mod error occuredIn post 247, Radical Rat wrote:And this is a lie because the role PM also requires you to confirm the voting rules explicitlyIn post 246, bugspray wrote:I stopped reading at vanilla town and replied confirm vanilla town
Because your elimination order suggestion also assumed the existence of nightkills, AND would have just led to a Jester victory, even without the killsHere is bugsy's reaction to being put at E-1, which was about 1.5 hours after it occurred. Agree they are not a jester.In post 271, bugspray wrote:if i get yeeted and scum wins i'm gonna blame it on mod error confirming me when i had not truly confirmed =[
Yeah, this should never have happened that early and another reason why I don’t think RR is jester because he advocated for this , which is counterintuitive if he’s jester no?In post 392, Galron wrote:RH9 what did you hope to accomplish by putting N_M on E-1?In post 300, RH9 wrote:Fine.In post 299, Not_Mafia wrote:Would you help to free me from this prison?
VOTE: Not_Mafia
You think bugspray is a better lim than RR?
In post 428, MegAzumarill wrote:Key note here is that they ARENT voting the IC.In post 427, AtE wrote:Rn, probably RR. I don’t buy his elim IC argument. I don’t think jester seriously makes that argument as you I think pointed out initially, that jester doesn’t want to touch the IC and he isn’t just voting the IC, he’s actively encouraging an elim on them. So I would elim RR for that.In post 384, MegAzumarill wrote:Looking through ISOs I found thisIn post 359, AtE wrote:Yeah, maybe NM could be on to something. Don’t think I want to vote bugspray anymore.In post 326, MegAzumarill wrote:IF it is a jester flip I think the game is solved
RR, Shadd, N_M -> Jester
Bugspray, ???-> mafia
Galron, MegAzumarill, RH9, ???-> Town
WinFried/AtE making up the last mafia slot
AtE who would you prefer to vote now and why
~ head banger
IF they actually wanted IC dead they would've
Hence why i prefer jester to mafo n them
In post 428, MegAzumarill wrote:Key note here is that they ARENT voting the IC.In post 427, AtE wrote:Rn, probably RR. I don’t buy his elim IC argument. I don’t think jester seriously makes that argument as you I think pointed out initially, that jester doesn’t want to touch the IC and he isn’t just voting the IC, he’s actively encouraging an elim on them. So I would elim RR for that.In post 384, MegAzumarill wrote:Looking through ISOs I found thisIn post 359, AtE wrote:Yeah, maybe NM could be on to something. Don’t think I want to vote bugspray anymore.In post 326, MegAzumarill wrote:IF it is a jester flip I think the game is solved
RR, Shadd, N_M -> Jester
Bugspray, ???-> mafia
Galron, MegAzumarill, RH9, ???-> Town
WinFried/AtE making up the last mafia slot
AtE who would you prefer to vote now and why
~ head banger
IF they actually wanted IC dead they would've
Hence why i prefer jester to mafo n them
VOTE: JingleIn post 430, Jingle wrote:The criteria for allowing hydra in this game was that they would make an effort to sign consistently. Please pick a signature each and do your best to maintain them.
Yup, this.In post 454, schadd_ wrote:oh wow i missed that. no, that isn't a good idea. confirmed townies are wildly +ev for town in nightless games. if you're worried about jesters scumsiding, you can execute a mafia and then let the jesters scumside & magically get town executions through, and then we're in a better position overall and we can check out who made a 180 after the mafia execution. this is assuming for the sake of argument that jesters will behave in this cookie cutter way which is also barely believable. that seems like a caricature of an idea someone would put forward to seem like a jester
Doesn't contradict what I said.In post 470, RH9 wrote:To clarify, MegAzumarill has been posting a lot of content to work off.
Actually At was the more active, better, smarter and funnier head but tE might challenge that assertion.In post 445, RH9 wrote:Or should I pretend that tE wrote most of them?In post 444, RH9 wrote:So which head wrote which posts?In post 443, AtE wrote:Okay, we’ll get our signatures straight.
~At
I’ll make them sign with tE okay?
I did tell them to do that on discord but then they started doing the “head” thing, so I went along with it but I’ll talk to them. You’re not fun anymore. :/
No, I just disagree. You got a problem with that?In post 446, schadd_ wrote:putting this in my big folder labeled "things posted in this game that seem to completely abandon the idea of scumhunting people based on their behavior/posts/actions"In post 431, AtE wrote:I don’t know why any of that necessarily makes him town? Both jester or scum could pretend to act townie in this setup.
Why did you vote Meg? You know we can’t unvote right? We need to discuss this first.
I want RH9 as my new hydra partner. What do you say Jingle? They aren’t cooperating with me. :/In post 470, RH9 wrote:To clarify, MegAzumarill has been posting a lot of content to work off.In post 469, RH9 wrote:Unless you mean that you think MegAzumarill has a boring ISO, for which I disagree on.
I still think RR is scum. I hear the possible arguments for jester but why would jester keep arguing for killing the ic?In post 472, AtE wrote:Doesn't contradict what I said.In post 470, RH9 wrote:To clarify, MegAzumarill has been posting a lot of content to work off.
-tE
I’m actually starting to come around to you possibly being town, because I’m less confident on everyone else.In post 482, schadd_ wrote:well... you're like rejecting this premise that townie posts are a sign that someone is town. like you stated that so plainly that idk what is left as a reason you might believe someone to be town. which is consistent with your play actually, in fact (both of) you have never stated a belief that someone in this game is town! 251 could be construed as such although it is ambiguous. so what gives? are you uninterested in finding town or unconvinced it's possible or what?In post 476, AtE wrote:No, I just disagree. You got a problem with that?In post 446, schadd_ wrote:putting this in my big folder labeled "things posted in this game that seem to completely abandon the idea of scumhunting people based on their behavior/posts/actions"In post 431, AtE wrote:I don’t know why any of that necessarily makes him town? Both jester or scum could pretend to act townie in this setup.
~At
Ummmmm . . .In post 510, Radical Rat wrote:What do YOU think we should do?
Why must it be others who decide your actions?
Works for me. Radical Rat, wanna be my new hydra partner?In post 478, AtE wrote:I want RH9 as my new hydra partner. What do you say Jingle? They aren’t cooperating with me. :/
Boring ISO, as I said earlier.
>Say a non-empty set of Meg's posts are boring.In post 544, RH9 wrote:Which posts would you consider the most boring?
I think jesters have got this unfortunately. :/In post 585, MegAzumarill wrote:I am jester
I object!!!!In post 626, schadd_ wrote:yeah i'm fairly willing to place winnie as the town. so i'll plan to vote rh9 & ate today. anyone object? no?
I’ve been sr you this entire game, why do you tr me?In post 629, Radical Rat wrote:I object because RH9 is Jestery, and AtE is TownieIn post 626, schadd_ wrote:yeah i'm fairly willing to place winnie as the town. so i'll plan to vote rh9 & ate today. anyone object? no?
Did anyone seriously think Meg would flip jester?In post 630, schadd_ wrote:i wanna say rh9 is the least jestery slot to me