Mini 694 - Office Supplies Mafia [Game Over]

[raider8169]

Vote Green Crayons

The term shut up and color is not meant to be taken literally.

[raider8169]

vote: Porkens

That's just a scummy sounding name.

Porkens is in this game?

IGMEOY

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IGMEOY

Help me out here...?

Vote: pacman123456

for voting for crywolf because I wanted to vote for crywolf because he voted for Raider who I really wanted to vote for in the first place.

IGMEOY I got my eye on you.

Seems I was right, you wanted to vote me! Nice logic though lol

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Honestly, though, I'm really not impressed by Charter's double vote with no explanation on green crayons.

Yeah, me neither. ...So I guess I'll bite. Better than last on the list, at least.

Unvote, Vote: Charter

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Is this actualy a real vote?

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I'd prefer votecounts in their own post, makes it easy to search for them.

I always have been a fan when they are at the top of each page. Makes it easier to keep track of changes.

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I actually don't have a preference either way, but the "The crywolf-stole-the-top-of-the-page" header to his post seemed to indicate that he wanted the top of the page for vote counts.

I think it was more meant to just toss something in there as a header.

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Porkens did you copy and paste your reasoning? It is just word for word of the post above it. Not that I do not think it is good enough of a reason right now, it just strikes me as odd.

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Would also be happy if a wagon formed on Porkens. I would gladly join.

Then, for the sake of getting a ball rolling.

Unvote, Vote: Porkens

. Oh, and because he followed some bad reasoning.

Not sure how salempc wasn't contributing on a page two post when he already has a vote out there. Are you saying that there shouldn't be flags raised?

FoS: quints

for artificially high expectations. That looks like a flag to me.

Bad reasoning? At this point I think it is better reasoning then anything else.

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I have no intention to join this bandwagon based on just that. Its a good place to start discussions however I do not want to see this lead to a lynch.

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Pabibaboom.

What?

[raider8169]

OMGUS!

Unvote Vote pacman

You are not making any sense. Are you even useful in this office?

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This is gonna suck if he is a VI.

VI?

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GC, ff you had a point to your last post I missed it.

[raider8169]

Sorry everyone I have to leave for a few days. I will be back on Friday.

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Skimming under the radar seems to be the thing I do. I will post like crazy if someone makes a case on me but I like to step back and read everything and once I make an opinion I say it.

My thoughts thus far are that town will change their votes around. Changing votes draw attention and that is what scum try to avoid. This is not true in all cases and some people try to mantain a meta by changing their vote alot.

OMGUS votes are only votes that have no case or reasoning behind the votes. If there is a reasoning even if not always a good reason it is no longer a OMGUS vote.

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Unvote, Vote Stef

If you say you are going to post something and then fail to do so is worry of a vote at this point.

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@Raider: yeah.. i deserved that. Sorry. Got to tired ( literally ) to post and went to bed. I'm +2 GMT .. not like you guys.

Unvote

[b/]

Its better then what I have done thus far. Time is a very bad for me lately.

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Pro-town extra life?

Anyone know what that means?

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Vote salempc

Purposely OMGUS voting, yeah I have a problem with that.

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raider, he didn't vote me.

He just FOS'd

Your right, thought it was a vote.

Unvote

I miss read it and thought it was something much more then it was.

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The above post was hard to read without the correct quote codes.

I thought you were trying to push a OMGUS case as legit. An FoS doesnt mean squat to me only shows your intentions. Intentions change like my daughters diapers so its does not hold much ground for me. Rereading it I jumped the gun atleast for my vote.

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I just noticed that Vamparific is on the player list. He has yet to post in this game once.

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Vamparific has decided this game is not good enough for him, and will be replaced. He is very active on-site, but has told me he has no intention of posting here.

Wow! Really this is all I can say. Thank you for the update.

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I got my prod, Im ok with a salempc lynch. Sorry in the middle of moving and didnt mean to get behind. I have internet at my new house and that is where I am posting from.

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Im still here, sorry been busy. Will post something soon. Would like a vote count though.

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Ok I have been going through the last few pages and the only bandwagon that happened was on salempc. Salempc has 14 posts and no where did I see a real case worthy of a lynch. Looking back I do not even see why I have an FoS on him.

Can someone post a case on him otherwise I do not see it.

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Stef - I think that there is now enough evidence to lynch salempc. His last post was extremely scummy. To sum up the case:

1) Complained about lack of content instead of producing it
2) Only makes long posts after constant prodding
3) Most of his posts lack content
4) Extremely defensive post after I pressed him.

I was hoping for a real case. This is the same thing we have on a few people in this game. I will need to look for the defensive post, I didnt see that the first time through. That may be the only thing separating a couple of people.

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Nice reply salem.

The issue has been explained "some pages ago", with no reference to what the explanation was, who made it or pointing to the posts.

Saying that gut reasoning is unconscious reasoning.

Yet again, we have you making completely unhelpful comments.

vote: salempc

uh. Ok

Excuse me for not referring to the exact post numbers.

And that makes me mafia, together with the me always doing completely unhelpful comments, which of course is not quoting any, say "no reference" please?

I've been busy lately, so I'll begin to read what I missed until now.

Im not see anything that I would qualify as overly defensive. Maybe its just me.

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I'll be keeping track of the people who don't read it Moratorium. Also, what's wrong with ZONEACE?

I tried to read it but wow. I need like an hour to verify everything. Something I do not have right now.

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All I know is that Porkens copied me for reasons I don't know.

I'll deal with the rest of the new content tomorrow.

Deadline is tomorrow, I will have something up today.

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All I know is that Porkens copied me for reasons I don't know.

I'll deal with the rest of the new content tomorrow.

Deadline is tomorrow, I will have something up today.

I am now open to lynching raider.

Wow, way to let the day end before making such comments. I was just getting to this game right now. Something will be up soon.

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First up is porkens. With 18 posts in the game this shouldnt take long.

5th Post wall of text seems good to me. 6th votes quints, 7th unvotes, 8th post votes salem, *disappears* night happens *still gone* 9th post comes back and votes salem again. *disappears again*. What is with being gone for so long? From the 31st of Oct until the 21st of November you posted a total of 3 times? Yes there was a 4 day night in the mix, still what happened? After that you got better but the big disappearance has me wondering. I did not see anything saying you would be gone for so long.

You say you were scumhunting but your player by player does not show proof of that. I did not see any questions to anyone just general comments. I am of course not one to push the issue as I have done more less the same thing.

Up next qwints

General comments are that I did not see anything obviously scummy. I did not see how porkens and qwints are tied together to a point where they are scum partners together. Sure one could still be scum but I do not think both are. No real questions as everything seems self explanatory. I will look more into qwints if time allows.

Next I am looking at Salem and Gurgi.

Salem admitted to having an OMGUS vote. Not liking alot of his posts. Seem like he is new to mafia so that may explain it. I dislike that he is not trying to explain anything from the person he replaced and says he just will not do it. Just because he replaced in does not mean that Salem did not post and those posts are erased. His second post I can not make heads or tails of. I said it would take time to go through it all. I do not have that time right now. Why did you not format that in a way to make it easier to read? How many people are you tracking that did not read it? It seems like it did take a while to put together and a response may happen later. I like the recent posts but I do not think it fixes the things found on salem. Still I would like to read more posts from Gurgi before I would consider voting him.

This is all the time I have for today, I need to get the kids to bed. I hope to have time before the deadline hits to vote. I have not seen a vote count in a long time so I do not know where we stand.

Porkens, why are you waiting on just me? There are many others who need to get more involved in this game.

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The last six days of the gap(from the 15th to the 21st) I was V/LA due to a family emergency.

Prior to that, I felt I had commented on what I could and was trying to encourage other players to take the initiative.

You're the only one (that I can recall) who promised to post before the deadline :p

Fair enough, I was not trying to pry in your personal life. Sorry if it felt that way.

You right I was, only I was hoping more people would post this close to a deadline. I failed to find anything worth pursuing during my quick review of the main 3 players.

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vote: Porkens

Nothing has been said that has helped me understand the Day 1 voting behavior.

When did you ever try to understand the Day 1 voting? You have not said anything about Porkens all game. You have not asked any questions about the voting. Your vote seems like total crap and it seems like you just want to get Porkens lynched for no real reasons. A better care on Porkens will get my vote removed but as you only post once very couple of days I do not see this happening before the deadline.

Vote Moratorium

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I feel that the wagon on salem_pc has been, and I'll quote myself as you indicate that I haven't said anything about this:

...weak (OMGUS) and feels scum driven. I'd like to see that votecount, but right now I'm more suspicious of anyone joining the salem bandwagon than anyone else at the moment.

In this particular case, you, raider, are actually the player that voted first. But I'm not voting for you because it is plausible (and as it happens, my belief) that you are just voting for a crappy reason that you actually believe in. But the players that jumped on behind you (in this case, and here I'll type their names out explicitly for you for the first time since apparently you need your hand held, qwints and Porkens), to me, are doing so because they are taking advantage of your proposition and trying to freeroll into the next day.

I dont have time to look back but are you refering to when I voted, then realized I mis understood what was said and then unvoted before anyone else voted?

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I agree Stef, if everyone just PM'd the mod asking for more time then we would have had a little longer to figure this out.

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Im here, I need to reread the long night made it so I do not remember alot about this game.

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@raider: Are you just saying that to keep from being proded? Because its serously it's not worth our time and a spot in the game if that's the case.

That was the intent. Finals are next week, my son was born not even a week ago, and my wife and I are still unpacking into our new house. I can not say I have been thinking about this game due to the long night. Once I reread and get back into it I will be good to go. Why are you so jumpy? Whats the rush? And you better believe that I am worth your time otherwise you will be highly disappointed.

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vote: Lord Gurgi

Good catch, I am not pissed off, forgotten yes, not pissed off.

[raider8169]

I had fun with this game. I didnt even notice the pissed off part. Once point out the game was done. LG, you did get thrown into a bad role. Thank you though.