Mini 695 - Futurama Mafia - Over

Xtoxm · Post Post #16 (isolation #0) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:43 am

Confirm.

Llama - I wasn't expecting a reunion. Was happy to see you, Kloud and GW sign up.

We might be able to get some people to replace in though!

Assuming we'll need replacements...

Xtoxm · Post Post #29 (isolation #1) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:47 am

Are you trying to imply i'm lurking an hour into the game?

Are you softclaiming that you're a robot with that circuits comment, btw?

Xtoxm · Post Post #32 (isolation #2) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:20 pm

Vote Gorrad

Xtoxm · Post Post #34 (isolation #3) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:54 pm

There's no way that's a coincidence.

I can only assume that Porochaz is a Mafia Day Rolecop, as town definatley wouldn't have info like that.

But I can't win without him dying and when his role is revealed my game would be over, thus I cannot win.

However, I would love for you guys to let me stay in this game and I can play as a vig, and you can lynch me once we've caught the mafia.

Please!!!

I don't want to exit this game early.

And think about it. You'll basically have a confirmed pro-town scum hunter, in a sense of speaking.

Unvote Vote Porochaz

Xtoxm · Post Post #36 (isolation #4) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:58 pm

Yes, I am an SK, however I will play as a vig, and I believe Porochaz is some kind of Mafia investigative role.

So, no matter how you look at it he is a better lynch for today than me.

If you give him another night, he would find another role, which is harmful for town. You want to get rid of him right away.

Xtoxm · Post Post #37 (isolation #5) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:59 pm

And he will say he was just saying it as a joke, but I have never been an SK before, so he's scum.

Xtoxm · Post Post #41 (isolation #6) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:16 pm

No, that's complete BS.

And we didn't even argue about that, I pretty much had him figured as mafia and no one woud listen to me. And I was also basically confirmed town.

viewtopic.php?p=1184165#1184165

Here's your proof the role exists.

Xtoxm · Post Post #42 (isolation #7) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:19 pm

What, claim as mafia? Riiiight. No you wouldn't.

I've accepted that i've lost. I don't much care for SK as a role anyway, I think it's silly to have one guy on their own against everyone. Like I said I will be playing as a vig from now on.

Xtoxm · Post Post #43 (isolation #8) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:19 pm

I lost from the moment you crumbed your result on me.

Xtoxm · Post Post #48 (isolation #9) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:25 pm

Porochaz is also a confirmed anti-town role, and a much more dangerous one at that.

Guys, watch out for the ones trying to get me killed. I'm a vig, so the mafia are the ones who really want to get me lynched today, town doesn't.

Don't let them waste this for the town, guys.

Xtoxm · Post Post #49 (isolation #10) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:25 pm

And given what Wolf just said, I like there's a good chance he's mafia.

Xtoxm · Post Post #52 (isolation #11) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:37 pm

No, you were clearly crumbing it for your buddies should anything happen like you getting lynched, with the intention of me taking it and calling it a joke.

Xtoxm · Post Post #53 (isolation #12) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:37 pm

And you wouldn't claim Day Rolecop as it's a scum role.

Xtoxm · Post Post #54 (isolation #13) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:40 pm

Yes, I am the good guy.

I cannot win as I am outed but i'd like to continue and play for town. It's also in towns interest to keep me around and try to catch mafia, atleast while there are mislynched anyway.

I cannot win, so keeping me around does absolutely no harm, and has many advantages.

Hopefully people i've played with before like Llama/Kloud will know this.

Xtoxm · Post Post #58 (isolation #14) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:46 pm

Xtoxm wrote:What the hell are you on about?

I just looked through Alvinz posts, he barely talks about EG, only some very light attacking at the start.

I can very easily see Alvinz as scum with EG.

vote Poro

What? Yeh, this just backs up what I said, so why you link to it I don't know.

Xtoxm · Post Post #59 (isolation #15) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:50 pm

Porochaz wrote:Hopefully players like Llama and kloud will think SK = anti town = "hes trying to feed us bullshit" = lynch.

No, that's just complete bullshit.

My win condition is anti-town, but I have already lost. I am not playing for my win condition anymore, I am playing for town, thus I am protown.

Any townie should be able to see that. Only scum want me dead.

As far as the scum are concerned, I am a mislynch on a vig. Want to follow the game I linked to so rigorously? Ended in scum win...

Xtoxm · Post Post #62 (isolation #16) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:56 pm

Further, Xtoxm is saying that Porochaz needs to be a scum daycop trying to breadcrumb the claim. Is there a great reason that a town daycop role wouldn't consider outing a threat to the town day one even if it was a SK rather than mafia? I don't know enough of how these two play to have a read on how they've chosen to interact thus far.

Rolecop is a scum role, only scum get it so he can't claim it and claim town. Town cops only get alignment.

If they can't win there's no fundamental reason for them to play in a pro-town manner. I respect the move to stay alive using whatever means necessary but I don't buy the motive given.

Not on the surface, no. But I like the line up of players here and i'd like to be able to play as town in this game, and so I would like to stay around and do that despite have "lost". Although I don't consider it lost as such, me being lynched today is what i'd consider lost, but that's irrelevent in terms of win conditions.

Xtoxm · Post Post #63 (isolation #17) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:59 pm

Porochaz wrote:sorry you quoted 1364, I dont know if you read this right but I said 1353, which is this post

xtoxm wrote:The main thing that makes me doubt AJ is I really can't see him killing the doc, rather than making maf do it.

Infact, i've been thinking it's Poro who's SK
cos EG is the only one I can see doing that.

AJ, why did you kill MM?
Now please, put your glasses on, those post numbers are difficult to read...

At Pacman
meh, whatever, I missed the joke. I wasnt frustrated or annoyed at the confirmation stage, just asking the mod to clarify which she clearly did.

I don't even remember saying it, but now you post it I do:

That is a horrible misrepresentation of the game. I held that as an opinion for an incredibly short period of time, and the endgame was mainly focused around the SK claim from AJ, and I was quite clear in that I thought you were mafia, for a quite long time.

Xtoxm · Post Post #65 (isolation #18) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:01 pm

Town doesn't get Rolecop's.

Nice try though.

Xtoxm · Post Post #69 (isolation #19) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:15 pm

Well, I guess it's possible, in a theme. It wouldn't be in a Normal, I don't think.

I highly doubt it though.

Xtoxm · Post Post #87 (isolation #20) » Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:56 am

Volunteer for my nightkill right there.

Xtoxm · Post Post #89 (isolation #21) » Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:15 am

No. And I believe i've played you twice as scum and me town, and town won in both, and I was part of lylo in both.

So that's just bullshit.

Xtoxm · Post Post #92 (isolation #22) » Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:41 am

Gorrad wrote:Why do you think the scum let you get to LYLO?

I think it had something to do with the fact that scum did not have the power to kill in either of those games.

Xtoxm · Post Post #109 (isolation #23) » Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:27 pm

Why hasn't the Mafia Rolecop been lynched yet?

Xtoxm · Post Post #112 (isolation #24) » Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:10 pm

Hey, maybe if i'm lynched today Farside will let me replace in...

Xtoxm · Post Post #114 (isolation #25) » Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:00 pm

Xtoxm · Post Post #117 (isolation #26) » Sat Oct 25, 2008 2:41 am

I do not intend to repeat myself.

Anyway with the way you're all acting I don't really feel like helping you anymore so go ahead and lynch me if you like.

Xtoxm · Post Post #119 (isolation #27) » Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:30 am

Well, maybe I did screw up and take a joke the wrong way. But I can't do anything about that now.

I can't win anymore, so now that it's had time to sink in I guess I don't care how long I survive.

It's still Mafia that want me lynched today, but whatever.

Xtoxm · Post Post #121 (isolation #28) » Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:50 am

Well when I say play as vig, I mean play as I would play as a vig, and shoot who I think as scum, not to who people tell me to kill.

Xtoxm · Post Post #123 (isolation #29) » Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:53 am

No, you lynch me because you're an asshole.

Xtoxm · Post Post #125 (isolation #30) » Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:57 am

I only said that because i#m not trying to keep myself alive.

Xtoxm · Post Post #141 (isolation #31) » Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:00 am

Wrong, L-2.

Xtoxm · Post Post #146 (isolation #32) » Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:36 am

Poro would be a good lynch tomorrow. Would have been today too.

Agree on Wolf.

Kloud looks good.

Goodbye cruel world.

Unvote Vote Xtoxm

Xtoxm · Post Post #149 (isolation #33) » Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:27 am

Unlikely means nothing.

It's possible, and it's the case in this game. Your comment is not a joke and makes no sense unless you are a Mafia Rolecop.

Xtoxm · Post Post #153 (isolation #34) » Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:40 am

No, now you're just lying, it's the SK you outed with your role.

Xtoxm · Post Post #156 (isolation #35) » Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:35 pm

Cult.

Xtoxm · Post Post #485 (isolation #36) » Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:12 am

Hey guys!

I promise i'm town this time

Anyway, the only thing I remember thinking about this game, is that Wolf was scum.

Vote Wolf

Anyone wanna give me a summary or sth?

Actually i'm not as certain about you as I gave off first time round, it was more kickback, I think I may have made a minor misjudgement on your first post. However you could still well be scum, but I like a Wolf lynch first.

Xtoxm · Post Post #488 (isolation #37) » Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:21 am

Aw bollocks, was looking forward to playing this role

Eh, well better make it known that I die if I hide behind Mafia, and I hid behind Jahudo last night, which means he's clear unless I was RBed. Pac did not submit an action N1, unfortunatley.

And yeh, I would say we're almost certainly in lylo, town has too much power, and there's only ever a 2 man scum team if the game is like near vanilla, as well as being in Normal rather than Coney.

Infact, I am quite confident to say there are 3 Mafia here.

Xtoxm · Post Post #489 (isolation #38) » Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:22 am

Porochaz wrote:So yeah Xtoxm, It would be useful for you to read over and then tell us if your for or against the massclaim?

Not today. I think lynch Wolf-Scum today, and MC tomorrow.

Yeh, reading over may have to be done...At some point...

Xtoxm · Post Post #491 (isolation #39) » Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:40 am

Why are you trying to teach me how to scumhunt?

Anyways, I think i've got an idea for another person being scum...

Llama replacing back in has confused me a little...

Xtoxm · Post Post #492 (isolation #40) » Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:41 am

Also didn't think much of Dukes lynch btw. I can't rember what I thought of him, but from what i've checked he looked very pro-town.

Xtoxm · Post Post #494 (isolation #41) » Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:15 am

Dead doc, RB, hider.

Umm, as explained.

Because I already know who I want to lynch. We can MC if y'all really want.

I thought i'd hang on to it for the mo. I can say if you like. Not read the whole thread yet, either.

Am I mistaken in my thinking Llama has replaced GW?

Xtoxm · Post Post #496 (isolation #42) » Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:24 am

So would you vote for or against a massclaim right now? We are pretty much split on this issue, so a definitive stance is helpful.

I'd rather vote no tbh. If a town power had something useful I think they'd have come out by now. On the chance there is a someone out there with somethign to get, i'd like to let them stay hid, and just lynch a scum today. It's also very possible that town hasn't got more power, but I suspect that there is.

Yeah, I replaced GW. Llama was NK'd as a town RB, and hasn't come back in.

Lol, don't know where I got that idea from.

Xtoxm · Post Post #498 (isolation #43) » Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:17 am

I know it.

Mmk, see if I can find what made me think he was scum.

No. There are already too many town power's present for there only to be 2 scum.

Xtoxm · Post Post #503 (isolation #44) » Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:36 pm

That makes me sus of Poro.

In a game a played with him, already heavily referenced in this game, there was 3 Mafia and an SK (Town had 3 powers, plus lovers which hurts town). I could link many games where there have been 3 Mafia and an SK. P is just plain BSing when he suggests a 2-man team, especially with a dead doc and RB.

Xtoxm · Post Post #504 (isolation #45) » Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:38 pm

Also, I looked back at Wolf, and I can't rember why I thought he was scum.

Infact, he looked alright..:s

Unvote Vote CKD

Xtoxm · Post Post #507 (isolation #46) » Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:53 am

Vote DP

Xtoxm · Post Post #511 (isolation #47) » Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:01 pm

Don't flatter yourself.

Xtoxm · Post Post #513 (isolation #48) » Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:21 pm

How many games can you link me where there is a 2-man scum team and 3 PR's?

Pretty certain i've never seen any.

Xtoxm · Post Post #517 (isolation #49) » Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:57 pm

Porochaz wrote:Remember you were the SK here.

Yes. With SK. Links please.

Xtoxm · Post Post #520 (isolation #50) » Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:11 am

Ok. I would likely also support a P lynch.

Xtoxm · Post Post #550 (isolation #51) » Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:28 am

Q's for X:

Why do you think pacman was unsure about his role's abilities?

PM is very unclear. I sent several PMs to the mod to ask about technicalities etc.

]Why do you think Dukes was lynched over pacman?

No idea. Haven't looked at it in any detail.

Why do you think it was a evenly split suspicion between them and do you see scum influence there?

???

Why do you think DP is scummy?

I just get a scum feel off him.

Xtoxm · Post Post #581 (isolation #52) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:03 am

So you're leaving you're vote on me when you're uncertain? Only scum would be that careless with their vote in lylo.

Xtoxm · Post Post #590 (isolation #53) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:29 am

I think scum win.

Xtoxm · Post Post #592 (isolation #54) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:48 pm

Yeh, I can see that being an honest mistake. I'm thinking you're town, ani.

DP is my best guess atm, but I can't see a non-us lynch today. So eh..

Xtoxm · Post Post #598 (isolation #55) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:03 pm

I can go with that.

Unvote Vote KMD

Xtoxm · Post Post #600 (isolation #56) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:07 pm

It's the only option if the alternative is an NL in lylo.

Xtoxm · Post Post #607 (isolation #57) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:14 pm

farside22 wrote:
vote count:

Xtoxm 3 votes: (Zorblag, Jahudo, Kmd4390)

animorph 2 vote: (Drunken Piper)
Kmd4390 3 votes: (kloud1516, Porochaz, Xtoxm)

Not voting

animorpherv1

With 8 alive it will take 5 to lynch
Deadline December 11th, 4:30pm PST

Why am I in red when KMD got the votes first?

Xtoxm · Post Post #611 (isolation #58) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:31 am

That's stupid, he reached it before me.

Doesn't matter anyway now DP hopped back on.

As i'm lynched anyway, i'm gonna self hammer twice in one game for the pure novelty of it

Unvote Vote Xtoxm

Xtoxm · Post Post #633 (isolation #59) » Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:43 pm

Told you.

And no, I didn't hurt the town. I self hammered when I was already lynched as I had 4 votes was first voted. I was onto DP and KMD, Zor I was unsure about, but by the end I was thinking Animo, Poro as town, and I thought Kloud was looking good especially with the KMD vote.

I also found Zor's first post after N1 highly suspicious, but I didn't say anything.

Xtoxm · Post Post #634 (isolation #60) » Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:45 pm

Jahudo wrote:I was sure from my role pm that there would be a Zapp Brannigan but that didn't affect my idea of mass claim because I could see him just as likely scum.

Llama wrote:Killing the claimed hider was just wrong though. Especially if you werent going to massclaim the same day. I dont know how that was managed
The different explanation of what happened when they hid behind scum made me wary but alot more was X's non commitment and his self-hammer before we could try for a last minute change.

Anyway, good game.

Don't try and blame me. You voted wrong.

Xtoxm · Post Post #636 (isolation #61) » Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:29 pm

That lynch was not changing. I don't care what you say, i'm happy with my play this game. (Second role)

Yeh, I screwed up with the SK.

Xtoxm · Post Post #637 (isolation #62) » Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:30 pm

And it was me that was right about the number of scum, you were wrong.

Xtoxm · Post Post #641 (isolation #63) » Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:27 am

I don't think you failed.