AI UPCIK PART II | Compromised

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Gottem

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Why can’t we be friends, and unite against the real enemy, the jocks?
VOTE: Superbowl9

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Yeah I didn’t get back anything like my submission
I wonder if we should do something like what happened in 3d20, or if that’s more likely to just give scum more information than town
Was anyone in the previous run of AI UPick?

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Yeah I submitted a real role lol

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Why can’t we be friends, and unite against the real enemy, the jocks?
VOTE: Superbowl9

Sure.

VOTE: Superbowl9

Taroumaru, come join in.

Damn why do you guys hate owls? Especially really superb ones

My vote was based on reading it as “super bowl”

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Hammerer becomes universal miller and hated
Scum could hammer and thus have an excuse for any red checks on them

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My guess would be that the 2 Mastina's role pm has them start the game dead and they either affect the game from deadchat or come alive later on.

VOTE: KittyTacky
Ka-bam

I’m kinda thinking IC treestump but I’ve seen these sorts of roles in RC Upicks before

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Yoink!

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That’s interesting

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Obligatory One Piece shitpost from Umay

YASSS
What’s your favorite thing about One Piece?

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I think that’ll produce less content overall

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But like, if you want fast...

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No we don’t???? I saw nothing about scum roles

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All it said was role name

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Mine

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Good image choice lol

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._.

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Momrangal is a she

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VOTE: momrangal
superbowl saying that makes me wanna go there

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Perhaps

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I feel like unwnd has a point because I’m trying to think about my opinions and they’re just about non-existent
Give me a couple hours to actually sit and work something out, then I’ll try to break the ice a bit

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Mine

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The only read I feel confident in rn is Yuki!town

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She’s like, the only other slot I can recall real effort to drive the game forward from

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She’s like, the only other slot I can recall real effort to drive the game forward from

What about A50?

I wasn’t sure about this but checking the activity overview it’s pretty clear A50 is town
He’s become about as bad as Creature/Bell in how divergent his gameplay is

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How’d I miss that one?

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Do you have any reads rn RR?

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Do you object to my A50 TR? I feel like that read is kinda self-evident

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Actually looking at the CONTENT of his posts it’s all mech talk
A50, what are your reads? I want a full list, I know you can do it!

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VOTE: Almost50
Tell your crystal ball it’s fired.

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Better, but I’m not taking my foot of your neck after the shit you pulled in LN 234

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Enough to know A50 won after I’d pressured him early then dialed back
He got his Captain Midnight decoder ring confiscated because of that.

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I prefer to be called Jet Jackson, thank you.

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Vote Kitty.. see if he still does

P-edit: I'm on fire. I can "think it" and people just do it.

Second edit: Just do it, unwnd

I almost did it because I kinda think what you noted might be scum indicating for kitty, but I don’t think it would be in good taste to do that before I actually make sure you’re on the level

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VOTE: kitty
Eh, I can always go back to A50 if I still think he’s suspicious after this.

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What dog 0_0

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Did something happen to Tarou...?

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What dog then?

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;-;

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I just looked it up, I’m sad now

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OH
YOU MOTHERFUCKER

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Let’s change the tone a little, eh?

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12-or-so-year-old me sends his regards with that one

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You gotta type “youtube” out all the way for the tag
It’s not like the vote tag unfortunately

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I’ve never actually watched FMA but I’ve osmosed a bit of it from my sister and some more (read: this exact topic we’re on now!) from PM Seymour videos

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I was gonna vote KittyTacky for those posts but my vote’s already there!

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I think umwnd is town here

I do too
I dunno if it’s defensible tho

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Unwnd, keep talking, you are sounding more town.

It is hard to get reads when people don't talk.

Skybird is probably town

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It feels like she’s picking up on a little of the same idea I’m getting wrt unwnd and how I’m reading him
Tho I’d love to hear more about how I seem off, because she’s probably right in some regard but I wanna know if that’s what she’s thinking

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I feel like you’re on the right track solving-wise. Obviously the read on me itself is wrong but with a proper dialogue I think that can be remedied.

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Disagree on unwnd

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Disagree on unwnd

Fair. It's early and I'm not in the moment. Just disliked their complaints on the gamestate.

I understand that, kinda did too myself. But combination of tone, content, and drive make it apparent that unwnd is demotivated town

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Crazy would do some good, and I am not one to be crazy

Unless I'm sleep deprived. I don't know if I care for your read on me Gamma, I'm not demotivated at all lol

you felt demotivated

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Uhhh, sorry?

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I feel like you’re on the right track solving-wise. Obviously the read on me itself is wrong but with a proper dialogue I think that can be remedied.

Skybird I’d still like to talk, if you’re willing

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Yup

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His posting feels weak so far but I recall him not starting off very strong in the Donner Party game we played together, so it’s tbd to some degree

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Town

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Town

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Sure
Unwnd’s reads seem somewhat solid

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I’m kinda in and out, sorry

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What do you make of Titus/Aristo/A50/Dwlee, skybird?

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I’m not sure if Tarou really thinks RR is suspicious but I do at least somewhat

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It’s Pokémon, most of it is bullshit if you think about it too hard

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...

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FOS: Taro

I think he's buddying me again. Gamma, you're the expert due to

that game

. Is he?

I’m somewhere between “doubt it” and “not sure” rn

@Taroumaru

who do you townread at this current moment?

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@Taroumaru who do you townread at this current moment?

The only townreads so to speak that I have right now is You,unwnd(Really like dhis back and forth with RR and I honestly think RR might be scum here cause of it) and of course my owner Yuki <3

Seems okay for now

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VOTE: Radical Rat
Not entirely enthused by Kop’s posting but I’ll give him some space for now

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Where the fuck do you work Ari???? They’d better be paying you handsomely!

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We should probably make tracks to going through with an elimination soon

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;-;

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Titus catch-up seems pretty okay so far

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Thoughts feels pretty sensible
I want more incisive thought on some things later though

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unwnd replaces pesto if it ain't obvious

Kop also replaced KittyTacky

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Taroumaru - GTMH town would elim

What does this mean?

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This is why I’m voting RR
This and having only me and Dwlee as TRs at one point after expressing town feelings on a number of slots.

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I am just about on the same page with Titus though wrt skybird, I don’t regard the tone as yucky but I do kinda have an opinion of “town if you care to actually look” on skybird

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I looked at the reasoning for the Ari vote by StD, idg how 383 is worth a vote in itself, it reads weird but it’s partly because of the sheer number of typos

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VOTE: aristophanes
I don't feel too great about this but I'm not confidently TRing Ari at all

also unless dwlee wants to step off for it meg has to be hammer

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What does investigation immunity mean? Are investigative actions on you treated as if they are roleblocked or do they return to most favorable outcome?

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okay yeah in that case being miller would change nothing unless the investigative was strongwilled

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I'm assuming that's a type of tree stump? So each day they can only post 100 letters?

seems so
looks like I was right all along

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I think I'm gonna be checked out of this game for a while. Not in the mood to interact with a certain someone rn

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You’re good for now and it’s not really a “recent” thing, I just kinda had a perspective shift on a player on a personal level

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bruh

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Thanks Fenrir

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All these squares make a circle

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Take of indeterminate temperature: MegA is town

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VOTE: kop
okey
I don’t have much of a mind on him but I doubt that’ll get better with time

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Flips give information. Information catches scum.
A no lim tells us nothing, and should be avoided except in unusual circumstances, such as MeLo.

If the information you seek is from my death, so be it.

This is a really weird vibe
I think under proper circumstances no elim D1 can still be telling going forward, key example being the Among Us game where I nailed I think 2 scum to the wall for weird behavior in the heat of the moment (this is probably mischaracterization of the facts but w/e)

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@Meg:

Before this wagon even starts on me, I can prove my role and I can prove its town.

I don't see why we should yeet this on D1. We can always come back to it on D2. I mean, this is no Normal Game, so we shouldn't fear "Scum 1-shot bla bla"

Tbh I think it’s real easy to claim you can confirm yourself like this, this is not just a UPick but one that’s in a sense randomly generated. I could totally see scum getting powers only town should get in theory
But tbh I should actually move my vote, I just don’t know where I want to put it.

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VOTE: Almost50
I wanna give RR some room, and agree that this feels like a sus angle from A50

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VOTE: RR
I definitely prefer this to A50.
This is probably the towniest A50 has been in my experience with him; he's been heavily advancing the game, his tone is well-intentioned, and the high activity is also a good sign for him.


@Gamma, What does 'some room' even mean this late into the day phase?

I mean I want to give him another day phase or two because I think he’s not in a great spot to legitimately show his alignment because he’s kinda trapped

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Ari vote A50

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I’ve been suspicious of him for a decent span of time, but more recently he tried to armtwist RR into support his own elimination

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VOTE: aristophanes
sighhh

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>_<

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Well this is a game.

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Names were submitted and then fed thru an AI

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Just adding to the goodvibes :3

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A50 are you willing to bet your Ari read is correct

What I'm seeing is, Ari is scummy D1 to the point where he's consensus over RR/A50/Dragon, he almost dies, but A50 claims an inno which people EASILY accept and then the 2mastinas having dragon as scum + dragon being

the wicker man

leads to people being like "Ah shit guess we gotta lim Dragon ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"

Also, how good at scum are you, Ari? (or anyone else) Or is Ari known to be LHF. I've never had the pleasure.

Ari is kinda LHF yah

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Well yeah, he claimed he was miller to start not hated
What’s your point?

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sparring with Pooky is one of my favourite pastimes

where's the base image from
that's really cute

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Vote:RR

Tbh we should have lynched Ari last day.

Ur not supposed to use the L-word, Shiro

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wait mastina is conftown in this game


lets just flip her readslist around

ala LLD

It feels mean

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I think she was more accepting of it last time it happened but the skepticism makes sense given tarou did that as scum the last (and iirc only) time that happened

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This game has *issues*

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What if people are asleep at the the posting time

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I’ll do list on PC probably

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So in other words, you goof off as town but play the game seriously as scum. Does anyone have any experience with Yuki to know this is true?

Particularly Titus since Yuki is calling her out for voting her despite not playing in her scum meta, apparently

that's about right from my recollection, at the very least, it's a position she's maintained consistently

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I don't particularly feel like yuki is manipulating her meta rn

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ive used this shit before its awesome

fuck yeah
didn't you use it in WF?

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my post is p much done

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MT do you have any sekrit alts?

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Almost50
Radical Rat
tweetie
NDmath
Aristophanes
enchant
Taroumaru
pooky
Titus
Dwlee99
Skybird
Yuki
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Here’s my list, since we’ve all but thrown timing these things in any manner out the window

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That’s a byproduct of the fact I c/ped it from my place I had it before without updating it for newer posts

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Almost50
Radical Rat
NDmath
Aristophanes
enchant
Taroumaru
pooky
tweetie
Titus
Dwlee99
Skybird
Yuki
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This should be more accurate

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I’ve used similar tactics myself, mostly just asking for a set sized scumpool

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Vote:RR

Tbh we should have lynched Ari last day.

Why? I've been town reading Ari. What do you see?

Town Ari is much more engaged always. I might have been away from the game for quite a bit but it seems this ain't changing.

This is a lie

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so it's more "this is ironic" vs. "this is scummy", then

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I liked skybird’s play around me
Some get pissy when I make reads this way but a recent game showed they can actually be really damn good

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How the fuck did I forget Titus was in the game despite having done the rankdown semi-recently?

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I think I’m kinda jaded to A50’s bs atp? So while I probably thought it was fake I didn’t care to say anything because it was so implausible I figured no one else bought it

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I’m having a relapse of a certain other game where I was kinda shitty before, I think

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It’s fitting that a lim order is being decided this way in an AI-generated setup

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Let's go..

1. NDMath
2. Taroumaru
3. Enchant
4. Titus
5. Skybird
6. Pooky
7. Yuki
8. Gamma Emerald
9. A50
10. Ari
11. Radical Rat
12. Dwlee99
13. Morning Tweet

Dwlee's posting EoD1 is something i liked which compounds with the role claim and their surprise at ppl thinking they would fakeclaim it. I've gone over that i agree with RR a ton and I want to say the wagons are +town for RR assuming my scumreads are closer to right than not

I find it more likely im missing something on skybird and they're town as opposed to titus being town

But I find ND/Tarou actively suspicious and Enchant i regularly forget is here and i at least have vouching for titus. ND i went over, Tarou is less actively bad per se more easily fakable. I also recall not liking their vote patterns

I have no idea how to read unwnd or pooky but he's so gosh darn cute so he has t hat going for him

Why am I middle-of-the-road if you think I’m outside my scumrange?

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VOTE: NDMath

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Why would you push someone who is AFK over people who can give reactions? you see how that is not helpful, yeah?

I disagree.

5-6 votes on lurker are pretty motivating.

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Why?

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:/

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Ok, Enchant is looking more like town now that he's posting.

UNVOTE: Enchant

Explain?

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Okay

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Reminder to have Dwlee as hammer vote

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the aggregate spreadsheet is on my computer and i wont have access until later

I could prolly do the math myself, how long is it until you get to your PC

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aight
should finish my schoolwork by then, so I'll handle it

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I'd be good for any of those bottom 4 except Titus

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VOTE: NDMath
bad vote on pooky imo

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Just a gut feeling you’re town

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r u really giving me shit for not analyzing a survey that half the fucking game didnt even bother to fill out

When you put it that way you have a point.
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I am a 'Purely Cleric'.
Each night I investigate if a player can use dark magic, defined as magic involving the dead, curses, or controlled by antitown.
N1 I checked Taroumaru because they seemed to be a universal nullread and got that they couldn't.

Is that like, a cop check? Pretty handy if so

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@MT there’s no guarantee people got back the mutation of what they sent in
I didn’t get mine, that’s for damn sure

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Role abilities are determined by interpreting with the AI spat out
Gaming this is basically impossible especially with the fact a solid part of the game is dead atp

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VOTE: Enchant

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Enchant was also repping into a contention slot, and his real contribution was basically nil in that game

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Can you read PYP: HoS_S and tell me what you think of Rnchant’s scumplay there

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VOTE: TarouMaru
meh

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On further thought Idk what that role would even accomplish
It sounds like based on that the scum flavor might be centered around magic, which they’d probably be aware of and have planned claims around accordingly

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Idk if I believe it
It’s also not a hard clear

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I can give a kinda solid reason to be voting where I am

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In time.

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Is Ari actually in his scum meta by falling off? i have heard someone say that but i dont know ari

That used to be his scum meta but it became NAI around the time of TM 2018

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@Dwlee you may wanna unvote just for now

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What are you confirming?

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Yeah where’s their post

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2m

ReadsL=N2
Game >rand
DON'T lim Ari
PLEASE lim PTMB
MT=powerwolf OR

gem

what? I think the wiki link might be saying I'm town, but I don't get the conditional of "morning tweet is scum or gemerald is town"

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Gamma EMerald
and emerald is a gem

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I already said I thought it was a conditional read

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Unless they're saying either I'm scum or you're town which is just a very oddly phrased read

yeah that's literally what I said I thought they might have been saying

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I have no clue of what's going on this game, I saw something that was posted and it was like passing a magnet over a hard drive, just a complete disk wipe

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VOTE: almost50
wynaut

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there's actually an interesting conundrum, does king power result in the same thing of becoming a hated miller?

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p sure yuki is the leading wagon with 3 atm

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Yuki is Yume

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it was in the signup thread

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VOTE: NDMath

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I’m an edgy loner so I unfortunately will not be dropping by

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I think ND probably used Ari's to base his claim from.

Enchant, the way I am reading ND's win con is there are two groups in the game and he would have won if one person from each group was executed. I believe the two groups are kingdom and scum faction. The fact that we only had one kill last night means we had a serial killer and a scum faction. We executed the serial killer, hence only one night kill.

Pretty sure ND was a condemner-like role

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I already said I wasn’t going, and I meant it

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Yeah it seems like provable roles are what scum are most worried about, Kop professed to be one as well

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I don't think scum cared whether Tarou was Town or not. It would have been nearly impossible to eliminate via day play, and regardless of whether it was Town, 3P, or the other scumteam, the slot needed to be dealt with eventually. Why not get rid of it early?

You’re probably town for this multiball shtick but pls stop

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I don't think scum cared whether Tarou was Town or not. It would have been nearly impossible to eliminate via day play, and regardless of whether it was Town, 3P, or the other scumteam, the slot needed to be dealt with eventually. Why not get rid of it early?

You’re probably town for this multiball shtick but pls stop

I'm not the only one who thinks it's multiball though. Why do you think it isn't?

Just a gut feeling tbh

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THE WORST IS SCUM! The vote on Pooky with no further discussion/contribution IS A HARD SCUM CLAIM.

VOTE: the worst

I'm down possibly
that's like the one person the Tarou kill implicates I think

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@Gamma: I see you active elsewhere, but not in this game. I want you to claim your role, if you please.

OH YOU CAN SUCK MY BUTTHOLE
You are not allowed to play the ellitell card on me after deserting me in Booneytoonz XV: Dance of the Dark Fairy!!!!

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@Gamma:

BEHAVE! And I don't see the relation between this and that tbh. And as for that Booneytoonz you keep bringing up, I am sorry I ever accepted to make that hydra with you in the first place. HAPPY?

NOW BLOODY CLAIM

@Mollie: Talk to the hand. I am only talking to mastina when she does come back (IF I'm still wake)

In that game I had ellitell brought up despite me only not posting because I was so behind it was actively blocking me from being able to do basically anything with the game until I cut the cord on you because it was too much effort to switch to hydra and then try to chunk out time to deal with the game. So you bringing it up here is FUCKING RICH.
And I'm not fullclaiming, but I'll state I am a killing role, and am responsible for the meg kill, which is why I'm so sure this ISN'T MULTIBALL.

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I really don't know atp, which is why I've been somewhat avoiding this game out of basically shame, I feel like that was a really dumb kill in retrospect but my best guess would be she felt off from her towngame in some way

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btw I'm gonna just throw caution to the wind on this, I may end up deeply regretting this but: A50, you do know who Tarou's main is right? And you have no problem with that?

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btw I'm gonna just throw caution to the wind on this, I may end up deeply regretting this but: A50, you do know who Tarou's main is right? And you have no problem with that?

What problem do I have with Shiro?

Huh. I'll PM you more in post-game on this subject. But it looks like progress can be made on a certain frontier.

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I basically claimed vig lol
damn I know it was kinda wedged into another post but was my claim really that missable?
also VOTE: the worst

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I rolled cop in my first game on this site and I crumbed my n1 inno lol

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3

or

2 and 2

is what i have been operating under the assumption of

Or maybe it's like 3 and a SK-like

Also why are you asking me

Depending on the alignments of NDmath’s targets I think 3 or 4 groupscum is what we’re looking at

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So wait, Skybird is getting PoE’d? I will admit it’s been a while but she was pretty towny early on, so I think there’s some sort of issue w the PoE

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So are you going to talk about how you claimed vig and there have no more nks since n1?

I merely claimed killing role, and I haven’t made a kill since the first one
If I were SK this would be shit play tbh

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Hmm
Tarou said she had a neighborhood with someone

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Tarou claimed neighborhood. Take wild quess with who and win whole nothing.

You can use any pronouns.

So what did you two talk about? Odd that Tarou did not mention this.

Our neiborhood in a nutshell:

Hi
Hi
Pshshsh replace
Hi
Hi
What's in this game?
Spphphphp silence
I forgot we have neiborhood!
That's reason why i thinked you maf
:<
it's not anymore i think
Tarou ded.

Hmm
Nothing about Tarou role :/

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If the claim had come up in the hood I’d say the scum slip you mentioned wasn’t a thing but you might actually have a point

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VOTE: dwlee99

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I’m not sure what the hell is going on but I know I’m town soooo

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VOTE: Enchant
Okay

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Well that happened