Mini 2240: SCP Upick (SCP 682 Ending)

[SirCakez]

Gif shot down all my picks

[SirCakez]

Gif shot down all my picks

:C I got one of mine friend !

also I have a 2 dclass costing ability- not sure what it is for friends but I will use it if I have to :3 it is very useful


i'm also immune to all night actions so i cannot die ever uwu :3 there is a way around it but i will never tell >:)

Don't like this post.

What's wrong with it?

[SirCakez]

Huh, that RVS ended very quickly for a lot of people or felt like it.

VOTE: strange matter

This is a scum tell

[SirCakez]

Y'all

[SirCakez]

VOTE: roden
don't like 125

[SirCakez]

ceph's hammer reaction was actually townie cuz I've felt the same way post hammers I thought were scum

[SirCakez]

i didn't use any d class or guards last night

why the votes on us

-infinity

eww

yeah whats up cakez

still mad about the end of day 1

lmao what the fuck happened while i was gone

anyways, mech stuff:
- my role does not use d-class or guards
- i visited dunnstral last night and was told that he is town; this result is unrelated to my role

will post actual game related takes later

kinda sus

how so?

[SirCakez]

I literally dropped a poke vote on SM and came back and they were hammered

[SirCakez]

oh 999 is Koba? this feels like scum Koba

VOTE: scp 999

[SirCakez]

sorry guys I've been MIA here cuz its fall break and i've just been getting trashed every day lol

[SirCakez]

UNVOTE: SCP 999

Alright, let's give this game a little more effort. Here are my thoughts right now:

Taking back the suspicion on Zyla, they have little content but I don't dislike their last two posts, and the day 1 wasn't on them.

I'm thinking town on Ampharos, this is mostly just feels based off of playing a few games with her. Night 1 action targeting me is interesting but doesn't need an explanation today, and is more likely to be town than not. This is not a good place to be pushing today, regardless, based on how day 1 went down and them not being involved in that.

I think Dwlee is fine. Can think about this more when they have more but I'm not interested in going there today either.

Galron gets a very light town read for their posting on day 1. I'm not sure why a call was made for pressure here since they were posting on day 1.

I think LLD is more likely to be town telling the truth than mafia making a gambit. We can figure it out later with claims.

I like Roden's posts on day 2.

Sircakez vote reasoning was one of the most plausible/justifiable from what I've seen. Other than that, they haven't done anything at all, and seemed pretty unconcerned coming into today.

I don't like the places SCP 999 has decided to focus today. If I have my way today, we won't be eliminating any of those players they've pushed today. I don't like that they then claimed to not be ascetic last night, and felt the need to "prove" that they had an ability that cost 2 D-class personnel. Their "reaction test" earlier didn't make sense. Seems to be going out of their way to disrupt the day phase.

I don't like the way Cephrir acts like Strangematter was really scummy. They really weren't... they posted, like, 3 times, and got jumped on for very flimsy reasons, followed by pushing instead of pulling back after an early cop claim. Day 2 play is mostly focused on defending themself, though they do have some reads as well. I don't like their spot on the Strangematter Wagon.

Infinity Zero started day 1 with a lot of mech talk around SCP 999's role, then transitioned into voting for Strangematter in 96 for very dubious reasons (how does it feel like that and why is Strangmatter a scumread at this point in time?) They also push instead of pulling back with the early cop claim. On day 2, Gamma getting mad about something insubstantial is definitely his scum meta. 149 kind of misses the point of what I am asking (which is if they have anyone as a scumread, not their townreads.) They do a woe is me thing for a bit which does not look town to me. In 183 they ask a question that feels more like a distraction than solving (and my answer to that is that I don't care for the premise, they may or may not have done so, but that isn't how I'm sorting people.) Their vote on Ampharos is lame.


[LLD]
[Ampharos]
[Zyla, Roden, Dwlee, Galron]
[SirCakez, Scp 999, Cephrir]]
[Infinity Zero]

Middle tier is above null in my eyes but I don't want to write them off for later as there is not much to look at there.
I am looking in the bottom 2 tiers for mafia. I don't think there are less than 2 mafia within that pool of 4, at the very least.

Dunn is town here
I'd sheep this logic to vote IZ

[SirCakez]

dwlee feels like a scum-designated mislim

[SirCakez]

lmao Deadbeat lived up to their username

[SirCakez]

Sircakez as well - i thought roden non-tmi slipped based on saying i was a potential save but obviously scum wouldn't know I was non commuting because I know they didn't tartet me with a kill - (which was why I said they were locktown)

what does this have to do with me?

wait i just realized zyla is in this game and has flown under the radar- better vote imo VOTE: zyla

scummy vote

hey friends - I want to just let people know lets not get into the trap of only attacking people who talk a lot because its so easy to do that ! friends friends!

You make a decent point

VOTE: SirCakez
How was commenting on the fact that RVS ended early a scumtell on SM?

it's something I remembered from past games
like scum will comment on it as a way to say something without actually involving themselves

Ceph why did you feel the need to justify your vote on someone who is already dead?

[SirCakez]

dwlee feels like a scum-designated mislim

why do you say this? we're not even voting dwlee atm

-infinity

This is totally a slip

LMAO

VOTE: infinity zero

[SirCakez]

oh 999 is Koba? this feels like scum Koba

VOTE: scp 999

What about them?

Pedit: same except not getting trashed lol

what do you mean what about them?

[SirCakez]

happy cake day!
don't let the harassment get you down

[SirCakez]

i literally said dwlee is a scum designated mislim with no mention of any names and you somehow felt the post was addressed to you IZ
guilty conscience

[SirCakez]

hey cakez - why am i scummy?

why was my vote scummy?

i feel like ur playing to scum meta
and that vote feels like it's trying to stir the pot and put a new wagon on the table

[SirCakez]

i think cakez entrance into this day was incredibly scummy and trying to just push agendas rather than solve


he was 100% reactionary to what has happened rather than genuinely analyzing anything. thus why the vague 1 liners about "hurr this scummy" kind of stuff.


also if im scum - why do I make up reasons to discard my reasoning to vote dwlee when they are very clearly playing not to town meta and very sloppily? nah lol im just not scum and the reasoning is bunk as fuck.

(connecting cakez saying dwlee is scum designated mislim to their supposed scumread on me)

i don't care LOL you're scum

[SirCakez]

cakez state your zyla read. i'm waiting for some non reactionary content.

null i havent thought about them at all

how am i playing to scum meta? what is your idea of what my scum meta is like cakez? and how does that differ from my town meta?


you're being interrogated right now.

stay sharp and answer my questions.

im fucking drunk LMFAO how am i gonna stay sharp

cakez I really don't care that you don't care because your analysis is shallower than a kiddie pool right now.

it's never deeper and u know that

to put my earlier thought into understandable words

i feel like scp's response to pressure seems to consistently be to ask a ton of basically bad faith questions in an attempt to bury the person suspecting them because it takes longer to answer a question than to ask one so when they can't answer them all scp has "won the argument"

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

i literally said dwlee is a scum designated mislim with no mention of any names and you somehow felt the post was addressed to you IZ
guilty conscience

there have been 2 votes on dwlee this whole game come on dude

-infinity

ok and?

it's like getting all up in their face in real life

why'd you do that huh?
what's with this huh?
[without waiting long enough for them to answer] why arent you saying anything huh huh huh?

i say the last thing when people decide to start other conversation topics without answering - point out where i do so without the other person posting.

you've been playing mafia since 2006, had perhaps a higher expectation of you to understand basic mafia concepts.

ur also just being rude

@cakez you still haven't answered why dwlee felt like a scum-designated mislim

I SR the people pushing them and the reasoning for them being scum is not good

[SirCakez]

thats always true about koba - koba is always scum when they're mad and say a lot of words and put pressure on people - literally 100% read rate guys

you do this regardless of alignment
stop with the boo hoo act
why me fry me

ok and?

you're acting like it's a weird stretch to think that you're accusing me of being scum pushing dwlee. and i was one of two slots pushing dwlee. i don't get how this can be considered a slip at all. same thing @dunn

i also feel like gamma's vote on dwlee was pretty clearly not trying to elim them right away but whatever

-infinity

honestly even if it's not a slip I don't like the reaction anyways

VOTE: roden
don't like 125

oh 999 is Koba? this feels like scum Koba

VOTE: scp 999

Both of these pushes suck imo

-Gamma

why?

[SirCakez]

VOTE: roden
don't like 125

oh 999 is Koba? this feels like scum Koba

VOTE: scp 999

Both of these pushes suck imo

-Gamma

I agree - and i will ellaborate that SC has shown no higher thought process in pursuing these pushes when as town they do - when i faced them as scum when they were on fire as town(and i got them mislimmed by saying they bussed xD) -> it was a cakez that could parse stuff. paragraph level stuff.

this is 1 sentence cakez.

2 words and a vote cakez.

this is not town cakez thought process being shown.

what game was that even?

God fucking dammit
I never would have thought the day would come where infinity felt like a burden but it’s here and I feel like shit for thinking that way but I’ve had a very minimal role in how things have played out so far so I feel like this doesn’t fall on me
We’re I playing alone in this situation I’d probably do something rash and spiteful but I’m trying to not let my friend down here. Instead, I’m going to fight this elim with every fiber of my being so that even if I don’t succeed maybe after the flip you idiots will WAKE THE FUCK UP and push ACTUAL SCUM!!!!!!!!

Dunn, I know what you’re playing at here, and you’re having a very uncharitable view of my meta. I don’t know what “small thing” you think I overreacted to but I assure you you’re taking a bad sample, which is fucking ironic given how delusional I made myself that game! As for why I thought SM reacting like marcistar was voteworthy, maybe because I wanted to probe further and try to get more out of SM + people familiar with Tarot UPick? And instead it got speedlimmed, which while I’m not happy about it I also am with Ceph that SM wasn’t exactly doing herself any favors by being so abrasive (which is why I find his SR on us remarkably stupid).
As for me saying you hadn’t justified your vote on us, I’d only skimmed the posts in the thread since I last posted when I said that. I actually saw your case when I saw Cakez’s quoting it when I responded to that post.

-Gamma

y'all chill out this is ridiculous

[SirCakez]

how can people complain that I am not approaching them in good faith
I entered in here with some dumbass drunk posting last night and people started FLIPPING their lids and just made no attempt to hold an actual conversation with me - instead it went straight to "cakez is scum"
I will talk to y'all but you can't just call me scum and write me off if you want that to happen

[SirCakez]

if I'm wrong about IZ/999 then I'd probably look at Zyla and Roden

[SirCakez]

I don't know if I've ever seen scum fake claim vigilante

I have, once. It was just to get a CC though.

Koba has yet to provide a reasonable explaination for their tinfoil on me and continues to push this narrative despite being told why it is unreasonable.

also @Koba I agree with this

if there's a Zyla wagon I'll join

[SirCakez]

LLD. - if you are town here i implore you to consolidate onto zyla because i hard tr infinity here - like the fact that out of all your reads and my reads differences and im hard pushing the one read we do share scumread wise, you should be able to at *least* consider good faith for getting zyla out - you have many reasons for scumreading her - and i have a similarly strong read there for other reasons - mainly that she is the least towny( my method of sorting now primarily focuses on how much i townread someone as thats my strong point - finding townies)

You should understand that my pov that you likely can be a scum doing a gambit to avoid being limmed and control the gamestate at the same time.

I also ask others leave infinityalone at least 1 day phase here - and reconsider on zyla's flip.
If zyla does flip town - I'll start reevalling - but until then i dont think i need to because i believe its a hit.

I agree Zyla is scummy but why is IZ town?

[SirCakez]

Ok this is a random question for everyone : but who feels that Roden has flown really hard under the radar?

I'll +1 this

Cakes I just wanna know what exactly you didn't like about my post. Because I'm constantly getting scum read as town for calling out bad town plays and getting frustrated with town in general. If you say "vibes" I'm just ignoring you, give an actual reason.

what post are you referring to here?

498 is not really great in general. A lot of words that don't really say much - barely any real stances taken.

[SirCakez]

why?

it looks like you're throwing out suspicions and seeing what sticks

-Gamma

i've sussed 4 people - that's pretty reasonable for a mini theme with no scum dead...

[SirCakez]

what if we lawn mow Roden and Zyla and then if they are both town we kill Koba

[SirCakez]

i'd prob just selfvote out of embarassment at that point tbh


but i wouldn't just plow both without reevalling in between.

tbh I don't believe that you would do this lol (the selfvote)

This one.

oh I didn't like the "wtf happened" and confusion and comments on those lines - they felt very faked and LAMIST

I gave stances and reads on more than half the players still in the game lol. I also already gave my takes earlier on Lady and Dunn (they're most likely town), and I've said all I can wrt Ampharos.

I mean looking back at it

IZ - you say probably town okay
999 - "abrasive but that isn't scum indicative" ok that means nothing
Dwlee - "not interacting with them" also means nothing'
Cakez - you question me but take no stance on me alignment-wise
Cephrir - "I don't TR you but your defense makes sense" - again means nothing

like all of these leave the door open for you to townread or scumread them later

[SirCakez]

@cakez

where is your head at?
I'm kinda feeling less suspicious about you rn

-Gamma

I'm thinking
Either this game is really easy and the scum are the people who are posting less and I don't know well
Or it's like Koba and you and this game is hard

[SirCakez]

If LLD hadn't claimed the vig then I'd probably be sussing them right now

[SirCakez]

I don't see what's so LAMIST about it, I don't think anyone would or should town read me for that post. It's not faked either, and I don't really know how it could be unless you think I expected a page 5 flash wagon on a Cop.

I think it would be easy to construe that kind of post as townie confusion

[SirCakez]

@cakez

where is your head at?
I'm kinda feeling less suspicious about you rn

-Gamma

I'm thinking
Either this game is really easy and the scum are the people who are posting less and I don't know well
Or it's like Koba and you and this game is hard

who are these people you think can be scum that are posting less?

-Gamma

Zyla and Roden. Maybe Galron.

[SirCakez]

I don't really have much to say right now either
Is anyone against ending the day early?

Because I'm not against an IZ elim if no one has reason to keep the day going longer

I've sat on this game for a bit and honestly I feel best about this now
VOTE: Zyla

[SirCakez]

@zyla why aren't you against elimming us? in your last readslist you had us as null and two people on our wagon, cakez and ceph, as scummy.

you also seemed to have a lot of null and lean reads, so i'm not sure why you want to end the day so early. what would you get out of it if we flipped town? how about scum?

-infinity

and this is good logic and 595 is ugly

[SirCakez]

that's L-1 on Zyla now

[SirCakez]

VOTE: roden
I believe the claim

[SirCakez]

You two think lld vig claim is fake

[SirCakez]

?

[SirCakez]

The vig claim is entirely NAI because its unproven so it has 0 bearing on my read on her

i mean the only way it's fake is if scum literally wasted a NK on a free mislim
or ig there could be some bs like a SK or whatever

[SirCakez]

honestly im at the point where its just like spin the gun and shoot any lurker lol

[SirCakez]

Roden/Galron/Ampharos
one of these can go

[SirCakez]

what makes Dunn mech town?

[SirCakez]

Koba and Ceph are actually trying so they r fine for now
Zyla and LLD have good claims
Infinity seemed genuine earlier today

Dwlee could be scum maybe? idk

[SirCakez]

just stay in then, i'm literally working until 6 and i'm getting high tonight and watching Halloween Kills.

Because that's an activity I actually enjoy.

ayyy sounds like a good night lol

[SirCakez]

I forgot cakez was even here. He's usually sr me hard by now.

Let's see where this goes.

VOTE: Sir Cakez

????
based on what?

[SirCakez]

everyone help me kill Roden so we can move this dead game on

[SirCakez]

Roden/Galron/Ampharos
one of these can go

Why isnt dwlee in this group for you?

i liked some of his posts but I could probably kill him ig

[SirCakez]

i think deadass a third of this game's posts are Koba

[SirCakez]

just vote Roden

[SirCakez]

Man i just want a hammer
Also is there supposed to be 3 votes on IZ

[SirCakez]

Sheeping IZ, Cakez, whoever.

Why would you sheep me when you just said you were suspicious of me

[SirCakez]

Sheeping IZ, Cakez, whoever.

Why would you sheep me when you just said you were suspicious of me

You showed up.

Because I have no idea who to vote for, and the three of you were the latest posters.

i don't really buy this - super sketch

Sheeping IZ, Cakez, whoever.

Why would you sheep me when you just said you were suspicious of me

You showed up.

And you scum read me. Which is normal when we play.

what game is your reference here?

@Cakez: Trying to push a mis-elim on me in a low activity game when I'm clearly not even on site and already said I was on vacation is just cartoonishly scummy. Can you walk me through your thought process here? Because if you actually managed to flash wagon me before I came back, everyone would see my green flip and you'd be gone Day 3 for flash wagoning town two days in a row.

I didn't realize you were on vacation
My viewpoint atm is scum is probably in the lurkers/low content players. Zyla was one of them but they have a good claim. You are in there too.
Also I barely had a hand in that stupid StrangeMatter wagon so trying to pin that on me is ridiculous

[SirCakez]

The problem is exactly that: I’m recognizing that all you’re putting out is noise. Your solving this game feels very weak-spirited, sure you sorted a good number of slots but it felt like your sorting wasn’t meaningful. Your activity doesn’t help but this is like when I prosecuted CheekyTeeky in LN 231, it’s all about

what you do with your time

that determines how you’re read, for me. Where’s your sense of

direction

?

-Gamma

I completely agree with this
Roden - it seems like you only put effort in here when the game is pushing you. You pretty much only showed up last time when I pushed you the first time. Your sorting doesn't feel town-motivated at all.

I don't see how you can see me picking apart each detail of a post and decide I'm putting in zero effort, when the person I'm arguing with is barely even bothering to respond and won't admit that they can't argue against my points and thus just ignores it instead.

honestly I meant to respond to the rest of that but I forgot
it's not a big part of my current reasoning for SRing you anyways

[SirCakez]

I could definitely do a Galron wagon as well - his posting on the last three pages was AWFUL

[SirCakez]

who are you even trying to eliminate right now? all I'm seeing you do is retort at people pushing you

[SirCakez]

Koba and I can work well together to find town and kill scum.

Their list was this:
Lady lambdadelta
SirCakez
Roden
Galron
Dwlee99

I would like to vote in:
Infinity Zero (Infinity 324 + Gamma Emerald)
Cephrir
Roden
Zyla
Galron

Crossing off the names I do not want to kill in that list gives me:
Roden
Galron

I think Koba is wrong somewhere here (or maybe more plausibly one of the names I crossed off is scum but that's to be reevaluated some other time.)

For now I want to vote where Koba and I agree, and that's either Roden or Galron. In my own poe I still think IZ is the scummiest. I think they straight up perspective slipped but I'm shelving it for now at least because I townread koba and they've drawn me away from bad tunnels other times

I would vote IZ with you if you changed your vote. Because their push is just illogical and forced at this point, and I'm getting the same vibes I always get from scum teams when town decides to LHF me over literally nothing.

I know I'm town and the almost complete lack of resistance to my wagon should be telling. The fact no one seems to be against Galron being in the PoE makes me think the entire thing is just wrong and that the scum team is in a really good spot. I really don't want to claim and pushing my wagon any further is a really really bad idea.

this is all just ridiculous
you're basically OMGUSing IZ and me
you're claiming there's no resistance to your wagon when you're not even at L-1 despite deadline being close

[SirCakez]

I said I was on vacation days ago.

In this game state only like three people aren't lurking at this point so that's not really telling.

You literally jump started that mis-elim and said he scum told.

yeah it was an opening push. I obviously did not want to elim someone in the first 48 hours. I had no idea that was going to happen when I dropped my vote. you're trying to frame this like I personally ensured SM was elimmed.

[SirCakez]

I'm trying to catch up and defend myself? Am I not allowed to do that?

yes you are but you're not doing any scumhunting from what I can see. your only recent pushes are on IZ and me for pushing you.
who is scum? who is town?

[SirCakez]

do you have other suspects that are outside people's poes besides us? lld and dunn are towny to me based on their roles, and koba and zyla are quite towny based on their posting. with 4 townreads i feel good about, poe'ing seems like the best strategy to me.

i'll be honest, your recent pushback has felt pretty genuine to me, but gamma disagrees obviously.

-infinity

I wanted to do Ceph but no one wants to do Ceph. Zyla I'm lean scum on because I've seen her fake town tells before and do it convincingly. Ampharos hasn't really done anything. I don't understand Cakez' scum reads and he only committed to going after me when he got support for it.

My case on your slot is that scum loves to play devil's advocate and defend me when town gangs up on me to get town cred. It's happened literally every single game, and if you're scum then it's a unique twist where one head plays good cop and the other plays bad cop. I want to believe Gamma's AtE rant was genuine but his logic against me is just so bad.

why is Ceph scum?
do you think Zyla's claim is fake?

[SirCakez]

How so? Seems NAI to me

[SirCakez]

Scum could definitely use it though? Makes it easier to push through mislims

[SirCakez]

Dwlee is L-1
should I hammer? hm
p-edit: or Roden can do it too ig

[SirCakez]

Koba why won't you intersect our poes after that large normal?

the fact that this is how they reacted to being L-1ed definitely makes me want to hammer

[SirCakez]

bruhhh was that really a slip

[SirCakez]

Holy shit T3 combine your responses in one post

[SirCakez]

I don't think I've ever seen a 12 in a row post..

[SirCakez]

He's not listening aaa

[SirCakez]

I am more enticed on other scumreads atm so you're good for now

[SirCakez]

Why would you not claim when you've said your role is very strong?

[SirCakez]

He should claim then we'll reeval

[SirCakez]

Ohhhhh I know what it is

[SirCakez]

Nobody fucking say it

[SirCakez]

God would scum have that?
Scum have scps too right?

[SirCakez]

It is in the top ten highest rated scps if you quickly skim each you'll know real quick what it is
Hope that's vague enough

[SirCakez]

God would scum have that?
Scum have scps too right?

Bruh
We

just

went over this with Zyla’s claim

-Gamma

Remind me?

[SirCakez]

I'll pass if you're gonna be rude about it

[SirCakez]

I don't know why you're so standoffish constantly all of a sudden

[SirCakez]

Ok you could have just said that Gamma and I would understand

[SirCakez]

Dunn that's where I'm circling around to
These claims might be legit but just scum

[SirCakez]

I tried to pick things that felt sufficiently “vague” because I have some

feelings

that SCPs kinda tie into. This next bit is gonna be some personal talk involving my plurality/DID.

I’m at the point where I’m willing to actually disclose the full names of alters since I’ve got names for basically all of them (B I’m still debating whether I want to use my

real name

for it, because while B feels the most “me” I also feel like it’s disrespectful to give my rl name to an alter like that, it feels preferential.
Anyway, my alter Z has the full name Zero, which wasn’t fully intended to work with the hydra name I set out with Infinity 324 (because well, the hydra was made before I was fully conscious to my plurality) but it’s thoroughly fitting since in the source material that made gave this hydra name idea unto me (the Terraria Mod “Ancients Awakened”) there is a creature known as Oblivion that resides in a “place” known as the Void. It has control of a number of machine-like things known as “Zero”, and one thing that is known about Oblivion/Zero is

it hates attempts to learn its nature

. It tends to become present in times where I’m under pressure to provide answers to a question, and has very little of the access to my brain that the rest of my alters seem to. As such SCP 055 would have been a very fitting pick and I’m upset I wasn’t aware of it when making pick submissions.

-Gamma

okay so
am i really dense or is this a scumclaim

It's not

[SirCakez]

I don’t get how that entirely differs but okay
And on thinking about it’s not

perfectly

clear in what was said to Zyla, so here: everyone was required to submit picks pregame, before alignments were randomized. It wouldn’t make sense to snub scum their picks because there’s a chance they have real attachment to what they submitted. So scum likely have SCPs of their own. It made sense for Zyla to be confused since she’s new but you’ve played in UPicks before Cakez, so you should get how the design process works maybe.

-Gamma

I know this
Aren't alignments picked before roles are made though?