Dwlee99's Mini Normal Review, July 2021
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ChaosOmega Mafia Scum
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Combined doesn't make it one action, it's two separate actions forced to target the same player. Agreed, don't believe that role will work correctly, the rolestop would block the rolecop.Is it any wonder things seem so awry? We swim in a sea of confusion and don't have to think to survive, so nobody listens!-
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I do agree the setup seems scumsided. The JK can't RB any scum, although they can't block any town power which makes it a little better. The traffic analyst can get a couple different false positives and one false negative with the ascetic, 1-shot simple cop can't get any guilties, only a VT clear. Town complex rolecop and Mafia ascetic is an interesting interaction. Scum power isn't super high here, but rolecop is very useful with no tracking around to catch it. Will wait for Something_Smart's thoughts.
I can't see the review topic for that game, but the Wiki defines combined as "A Combined role necessarily performs all of its constituent actions on the single player it targets each night." The role can exist, but the rolestop will block the rolecop according to NAR since they are not the same action.Is it any wonder things seem so awry? We swim in a sea of confusion and don't have to think to survive, so nobody listens!-
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ChaosOmega Mafia Scum
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Making all PRs multitasking means the JOAT can just go crazy N1 and do 3 things, which doesn't seem ideal. You could make the mailman multitasking with a second role that wouldn't look as suspicious to the rolecop, like voyeur or some other light investigative if you don't want to make all PR's multitasking.Is it any wonder things seem so awry? We swim in a sea of confusion and don't have to think to survive, so nobody listens!-
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ChaosOmega Mafia Scum
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I would probably make the one-shot BP a regular passive instead of activated to make it more consistently helpful to town.
Is the plan to still have public knowledge that all PR's are multitasking? If so, just wondering how that interacts with compulsive JOAT, if they are forced to do something while they still have shots left or if they have to do everything N1.Is it any wonder things seem so awry? We swim in a sea of confusion and don't have to think to survive, so nobody listens!-
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ChaosOmega Mafia Scum
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I would assume it doesn't see the rolecop since it's coming from that player. Voyeur looks for actions you are not performing, otherwise you'd get a result every time from the voyeur seeing itself. And agree that the first one is the list is what is checked and not the order in the role.Is it any wonder things seem so awry? We swim in a sea of confusion and don't have to think to survive, so nobody listens!-
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ChaosOmega Mafia Scum
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Couple things:
- The role is listed as Mailman, but the PM says Announcing Mailman.
- The Traffic Analyst would get a positive result on the mailman even if he's the last mafia alive.Is it any wonder things seem so awry? We swim in a sea of confusion and don't have to think to survive, so nobody listens!-
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I think removing loyal helps scum a bit, no result is going to be treated like a guilty if loyal, so having it be a regular 1-shot cop and getting no result from the ascetic is more likely to not be pushed as a guilty.Is it any wonder things seem so awry? We swim in a sea of confusion and don't have to think to survive, so nobody listens!-
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