Babylon 5 Mafia: Severed Dreams - Over

[Empking]

I'd voye For but if its meta.

Vote: Natrishka

Self voting in the random voting stange = scummy.

[Empking]

Fos: HP[leaves]

Voting with dice = scummy.

[Empking]

Unvote

Vote: hp [leaves]

[Empking]

[Natirasha (1) - Natirasha, Empking
10, 2008 at ~6:00 P.M. (GMT -6)

Was that an error?

Yes. - Tar

[Empking]

Yeah, I don't think that's helpful.

FoS: For

[Empking]

I don't think he's saying Mafia is scum, just anti-town.

[Empking]

Un fos

Darox; Why Lord Gurgi?

[Empking]

Are you suggesting random bandwagoning to a claim?

[Empking]

Not yet.

What were you suggesting?

[Empking]

Is a policy lynch actually being considered?

[Empking]

oh thank goodness.

I was worried about that for a moment.

[Empking]

Yeah, if you're a survivor claim.

[Empking]

There are many reasons for a survivor to claim, therefore:

If you're a survivor claim.

[Empking]

Survivopr claims are completely different from Villager claims. Personally, I feel that the fact that you attempted to lump them in together very suspicious.

[Empking]

I thought the villager claims would also make the mafia target the other people of the town, making the power roles easier to hit. Was I wrong?

What villiager claims?

[Empking]

Cybele, why are you voting Nat?

[Empking]

Are you trying to bandwagon for a claim or lynch?

[Empking]

Nat, please explain more fully. Please.

[Empking]

SWhat the alignments are.

Cybele; About your last point. why would non-survivors care about benefits to survivors?

[Empking]

Why?

[Empking]

In addition, as Natirasha pointed out earlier, based on my role PM I can also deduce that there are at least 5 alignments present in the game. Which also implies that my enemies likely have similar win conditions to mine only with roles obviously reversed. Kinetic's and Empking's failure to understand this and attempts to force Nat to explain it makes me think that their role's win condition is, at the very least, anti-me and quite likely anti-town.

FOS: Empking

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Saying their's five win conditions while still keeping his optiomns open.

FoS: Veerus

[Empking]

Of course, are we considering races 'Factions'?

My Pm alerts me to the existance of

three

seperate factions, one of which is mine, and three races.

Technically, because I know all races have a win condition where they win if only members of that race are alive, and I know the win conditions of two of the factions, I know five win conditions.

Is the bold an error?

[Empking]

Okay thoughts and more thoughts.

Empking: Random vote is random vote whether by die or just picking a person just because what is the difference? What is with the vote hope from page one and then page 2 with no reason?
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Fully random votes or self votes take away from the town's information. Only scum want to do that. I changed my vote when I learnt it was Nat's meta and therefore not a tell.

[Empking]

Unvote

Vote: Nat

I still think Hp is scum but not as much as I think Nat is not town.

[Empking]

I find the timing of RandomGems posts very suspicious. I can imagein a role along the lines of "ill post your fakeclaim in thread if $condition".

Did you miss the post that the Mod just did on this page?

FOS Vis

I don't understand that. Would you please explain.

[Empking]

I'm saying there is no town in this game because each alignment wants someone else dead. Ergo, there is no town. Just people who want other people dead.

What do you think Town normally wants.

[Empking]

Yes.

[Empking]

a lot of text

Just saying that I know of two more factions that aren't in your post.

I think you should claim them.

[Empking]

Yeah, the race claim won't have the effect I think Kin thinks it'll have.

[Empking]

.9999999 does not equal 1.

[Empking]

If it gets a moajority I'll do it reluctantly.

[Empking]

Or, you know, people will want to kill the people who are targeted in their WinCons with all the races claimed.

But since there are so many races, they're unlikely to achieve majority to get the lynch. Whereas if we unite on the AOL WC, we can achieve majority which would give us our best chance to win.

That's a definate point.

[Empking]

If we do claim.

I say popcorn starting with Cybele.

[Empking]

Still against.

[Empking]

Unvote; Dybeck

He obviously hasn't been reading the thread and is still attacking Kinetic despite that.

[Empking]

Vote: Dybeck

He obviously hasn't been reading the thread and is still attacking the plan despite that.

[Empking]

Has your "people who support/oppose Kinetic's plan" list changed yet?

[Empking]

I think I've worked out a bit of the plan.

I'm now for the race claim.

[Empking]

Yeah, KoC should claim race.

[Empking]

So if you're telling the truth, most players can only win by completing their race win con.

I don't think so.

Unvote

Vote: Hp[leaves]

[Empking]

KoC, is V/LA.

I'd like a Darox claim.

[Empking]

You would Nat.

Anyway, currently it looks like to start:

2 votes dybeck
1-2 votes Knight of Cydonia (Can't remember if Emp was one of the ones voting KoC/Cybele before)
1 vote Darox
1 vote Kinetic (Nat)

I think I was.

[Empking]

If you want to claim first, I think you should. We don't have much time.

[Empking]

Babylon 5

[Empking]

Of the B5s, I think the two Vsc are the most likely as scum.

[Empking]

b]Vote: Farside[/b]

I can see a scum motive for false claiming but not a town motive.

[Empking]

Vote: Farside

Fixed

[Empking]

Vote: Farside

Fixed

Why?
?

Because its silly to have a non-counted vote.

[Empking]

Would you mind explaining that wikipedia comment.

[Empking]

Unvote

Vote: HP

He's known not town andf it'd test the semi-cop.

[Empking]

I'm really confused. I think that we should lynch Nat. Nat is (IMO) acting like he'd prefer to win by race.

[Empking]

RandomGem is still alive? He has last posted in October.

Empking, why on Earth would we want to lynch a confirmed townie over a CONFESSED SCUM THAT KILLS TOWNIES AT NIGHT? If there's a reason, I'd like to hear it. It might be funny.

He's confirmed non-town.

[Empking]

I don't believe the three race groups, 1 member is scum theory.