I second this observationIn post 3170, FakeGod wrote:apparently no one wants to play scum any more, which is weird
everyone wanted to be scum back in the day
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oof don't remind me, I recently reread my ISO in that game and it was rough, so close to catching each member of the team at different points but talked myself out of each of them at crucial junctures over and over againIn post 3173, FakeGod wrote:I haven't seen good scum team since...checks wiki...Guns & Roses III.
That was some high quality mafia playing."I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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The cell is going to fill up quickly if players are honestIn post 3166, OkaPoka wrote:omg u actually changed ur locationParaphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Just gonna go ahead and bring my harmonica to hang out with the cool kids.In post 3177, DrippingGoofball wrote:
The cell is going to fill up quickly if players are honestIn post 3166, OkaPoka wrote:omg u actually changed ur location"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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This was the design conceit for innocent evil people, even if I goofed the math hard.In post 3168, OkaPoka wrote:setup related solutions so if u hate scum u can be like ok i only need to play scum for one phase and then i can commit seppuku, might be more motivating for scum if they only need to survive for a single/two phases to help their team"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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I would say that overall the scumplay around when I joined was better than the scumplay in 2018, despite 2018 being a vaguely scum sided meta. And for good reason. One of my early games my strategy as scum was “bully mastina in the thread until she doesn’t have the motivation to solve the game.” That’s not healthy for anyone involved, but it used to be a fairly acceptable practice.In post 3171, OkaPoka wrote:maybe if there is a graph, scumplay remained steady up until 2019, while town play has been slowly increasing over time. and then scumplay hit a nosedive while townplay has continued to level up. i do agree that ms.net was scumsided maybe in 2018 because i remember reading about mu vs ms and how ms was the site for good scumplay and bad townplay.
I would say that for people with a truly polarized scum meta they might try hydra-ing with someone who is better at scum, not necessarily as a crutch but to have someone who could keep them invested in the game. Also weaponized hydra dissonance is a powerful scum tool that no one seems to take into account anymore."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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There’s a reason toxic 1v1s tend to lead to scum wins, and being able to incite that without looking scummy used to be considered a skill."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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I'll take a 90% townsided meta where scum win by casing partnership confusing wagon patterns over a perfectly balance meta where scum win games by making townies not want to play.
I do think players should try to care a lot about winning as scum.
You get to play a game as {me} every time you roll town. You only get to play a game as {me, northsidegal, Nero cain} whenever that masonry or scumteam is rolled. It could be a once in a lifetime opportunity.
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Could you clarify what you mean?In post 3184, Dusa wrote:Bell's performance in the last dance game was kinda colon slash-
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I didn't give a shit about being townread and I tried my best to scumhuntIn post 3167, OkaPoka wrote:additionalyl when i joined, the motto as town was just scumhunt and don't worry about being townread its not your problem
yet here we areMy favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
I have Brandi's autograph! I bet you're jealous.
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if I didn't want to play with you in the playlist, I wouldn't have joined in the first place
but you were a terrible person to me in game for no reason other than I voted you so I'll think about itMy favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
I have Brandi's autograph! I bet you're jealous.
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I’ll admit that’s on me but something to understand about me is I get an idea in my head for any length of time, and if it’s negative it then starts to grow like mold on bread, until I’ve convinced myself my preconception is reality
There’s the explanation for how I ended up reacting how I did, do with it what you will.<Embrace The Void>
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If anyone wants to run this setup in the Open Queue, you are allowed to run 14+ player games in the open queue. I tend to like to see setups without power roles getting used."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Well, yeah. I was pretty awkward and used AtE a lot to get people off me which is a temporary measure that doesn't last.In post 3190, Dusa wrote:I didn't feel challenged-
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Can I be the warden?In post 3177, DrippingGoofball wrote:
The cell is going to fill up quickly if players are honestIn post 3166, OkaPoka wrote:omg u actually changed ur locationShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
You're letting Titus win the game by herself.Good luck now I guess.You have no chance to win.~Tywin
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Waiting on nsg to make me a best back up mod badgeOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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