for taking so frikkin long to reply to the pm.
Grimmy
cant stand that guy!
No. I thought it was funny. I talked to Grimmy and promised him lunch for hurting his feelings that that vote.iamausername wrote:A few questions;
Grimmy, do you think you are scum?Grimmy wrote:Vote Grimmy
he random voted the two people that preceded him.Fark, what was this all about?Farkshinsoup wrote:Vote: Channeldelibird
unvote
Good questionWhy is that, KingEnigma?Farkshinsoup wrote:KingEnigma, you seem reluctant to random vote.
your missing patience, im missing a brain, and the lurkers are missing courage. I know this place down this yellow brick road where we might be able to get these things wholesale. Ihave a membership card, so we should be ok.Elmo wrote:Sure. But you don't seem to have asked any questions yet.. I'm curious to see this in action. Maybe I'm missing something?
Elmo wrote:I don't think I'm being impatient; in the 'model game' for not random voting, Newbie 465, people ask questions in their first post, even if it's as basic as "are you scum?" - and I can't see any reason to delay doing that. Definitely, if I were not-random-voting, I'd have asked a question or two by now, so I'm curious.
QF-GOD GIVEN- TRishi wrote:
Of course, Grimmy never seems to leave the random stage - even on like Day 3. And he seems to do okay.
Reasonable.iamausername wrote:Unvote, Vote: Grimmy, because this is exactly what I voted Timeater for, except Grimmy did it later in the day, when it's even less forgivable. And Timeater has posted actual content since then that does not read as particularly scummy to me.
head up to the mod. I posted this on friday to let everyone know I wouldnt be around.Grimmy wrote:Reasonable.iamausername wrote:Unvote, Vote: Grimmy, because this is exactly what I voted Timeater for, except Grimmy did it later in the day, when it's even less forgivable. And Timeater has posted actual content since then that does not read as particularly scummy to me.
I only had time to catch up on one game that day, so I chose one I had neglected longer than this one. I will probably not get to go indepth with this game until at least monday, and that is still not a guaranteee, as todays events in RL will make my monday twice as hard, and I wont be around for the weekend.
Grimmy
giving a heads up
I have a question tied to this, andit calls Tar's post into it.Awesome Pants wrote:Can you elaborate on why you think that is so though?KingEnigma wrote:anyone defending anyone is kind of suspect.
this was the post I was refering to, and in it, TAR added the part about KE not wanting to random vote. it appears he was purposely trying to twist KE's post to make him seem scummy, and this is a scumtell on TAR to me.Tarhalindur wrote:Let me get this straight.voting for someone because they are voting for me is barely more than random.
As far as I can tell, you are implying that OMGUS is a valid reason to vote someone, albeit a very weak one. This, in turn, implies that voting for you is a weak scumtell.
1) Is this logic flawed, and if so why?
2) If OMGUS is a valid reason to vote someone and you haven't found any more valid reasons for voting, why aren't you voting with OMGUS as your justification.
Sure.andersonw wrote:Grimmy: Could you answer the question I had in post 67?
Yes I think it is possible, but im a little concerned that we may lynch Time based upon what seems to be his normal playstyle. But on the same note, I tend to go with the "If you act scummy all the time, we cant trust you so its better off if your gone anyway" line of thinking. Ill wait to see what he says about his recent actions before voting though.Rishi wrote: @Grimmy: You didn't answer my question. Do you think it's possible that both Fark and Timeater are scum together?
sorry for the delay. Major RL issues kept me from surfing as much as I would like.MacavityLock wrote:Grimmy and camn still owe cylon-claims.
the amnesiac comment is more aligned with everyones memory loss. I was trying to paraphraseFarkshinsoup wrote:I don't like grimmy's claim at all. It doesn't fit. Any name or model number, Grimmy?
Given this info, I have to throw the two fingers, one is telling the truth while the other is lying. From the Wiki, im seeing that there are copies of the cylons, but I cant see more than one version of the same character.Flask of Pestilence wrote:Rishi wrote:You guys are allowed to discuss this game outside of the thread and you still came down on the side of being mysterious and evasive (at least at first)? Lovely. By the way, in response to FoP’s later question, the original post was evasive. FoP did come forward on their own, but it still looked like they were waiting to see how things would shake out before coming forward.
Someone being evasive generally doesn't want to commit or wants to wait for others to speak up first; I could have easily said nada and just happily let (at the time) a deadline lynch go through. I don't see why you find it bothersome that we didn't race claim in that particular post; would there have been some advantage to that that I'm missing? I'm starting to think you're trying to throw doubt on me rather than curious.
Knights of Cydonia wrote:Actually... hang on. Five claimed Cylons. I'm a Centurion allied to Natalies/D'Anna (forbiddan)'s faction. Fark claims to be a Number Two, and forbiddan claims to be the last remaining Three... I'm seriously thinking Flask of Pestilence and MacavityLock for scum now. Assuming Fark and forbiddan are telling the truth - two scum seems a bit light, so I'd assume we have another scum who is lying about being human, or Grimmy is the 6th Cylon, and 3rd scum.
Vote: Flask of Pestilence .
Ok, I've just noticed something interesting. Farkshinsoup claims to be a number 2 but doesn't have a name, a wiki search reveals number 2 to be Leoben Conoy. My role name is Leoben Conoy. I don't know anything about the theme, and the wiki seems to contradict as to whether number 2 is a single being or several beings; so I'm unsure as to whether Farkshinsoup has just been caught in a fake-claim or not. I'd like some people who know their BSG stuff to comment on this; today could potentially be simple. I'll keep my vote on Macavity for now, but will vote for Farkshinsoup if it turns out our claims contradict each other.
Also, I'm a cylon who wants to join with humans; hopefully that's fairly obvious from Post 398. I think Knights of Cydonia is more likely to be town because of his unpressured claim and attempts to look for easy solutions, but I'm not comfortable assuming all of the scum are found in the cylons. However, after Grimmy's rather surprising claim, I'm pretty sure at least of the cylon claimers is scum, because my PM suggests there's only five cylons in the game. Interesting indeed.
(Patrick)
lets just get that part out of the way.MacavityLock wrote:Typo here, right? I assume you're saying here that "at leastFlask of Pestilence wrote:However, after Grimmy's rather surprising claim, I'm pretty sure at least of the cylon claimers is scum, because my PM suggests there's only five cylons in the game. Interesting indeed.
(Patrick)oneof the cylon claimers is scum," yes? Given the multiple copies we now might be seeing, I'd like to ask how this particular clause of your PM was worded (don't get modkilled). Were you told that there are only 5 cylon players? Only 5 cylon models? Only 5 cylon human-form models?
Right now, again depending on what Grimmy is, this does not necessarily contradict the "only 5 cylon models" reading: 2 (FoP, Fark), 3 (forbiddan), 6 (ML), Centurion (KoC), 8 (Grimmy).
I only put my vote on him to give a bit more pressure for a full claim. I do not have any strong suspects at the moment, but the whole "two people claiming the same person (#2)" bothers me. The more I read about BSG on the Wiki makes it seem more and more possible, but with the limited amount of people in this game, im wondering why the mod would do so. It could be a mindf*ck on the mods part to make this game harder, or one of you is lying and hoping that it just falls by the wayside (which is seems to be doing)Flask of Pestilence wrote:Why would you unvote immediately after a claim has been posted? Who would you be willing to lynch today then?Grimmy, in 558, wrote:I will unvote once the claim has been posted.
The way you phrased this, you make him sound guilty no matter WHAT he would have done.Rishi wrote:Because it's an obvious move to avoid suspicion. If you jumped on the ML bandwagon, it might have been seen as bussing. If you jumped on the KoC bandwagon, then it would have seemed that you were trying to save ML. You took the "safe" approach instead, which is why it seems scummy.andersonw wrote: May I ask why this is scummy?
Anything for my second-favorite meerkat.Rishi wrote: Thanks for letting us know that you're going to continue to not participate in this game. Thanksgiving was a week away when you posted this.
i did not get to pick the target. I misread farks description, which now puts me in a bit of a dilemma.Elmo wrote:I have to admit to a little bit of irritation, camn. I would have specificallyavoidedanything like a nameclaim or a roleclaim, because that gives out too much info. The only reason I was willing to do a race claim was that I strongly suspected that race wasn't correlated with role, which it apparently isn't. Do you accept that, in retrospect, you could quite happily have claimed "I'm a cylon" and nothing bad would have happened? Especially, Iam could have investigated someone else.
This basically confirms Iam's ability, by the way, which is nice. I'd be pretty surprised if he was scum, based on the crumb + ability.
Grimmy, did you pick the target? The shot didn't hit scum, in fact it hit the person the scum would most like dead, so I would imagine it's a scum ability. Is there any flavour justification for Helo acting like that? I suppose I'll be the first to say it; what comes to mind is obviously something like Sharon Valerii's programming, but that doesn't mean Grimmy is anti-town, I think. I wouldhopethat it's a one-shot ability. The missing kills would mean either we've been really lucky somehow, or we have strong potential to block kills, and the scum would need compensation for that. I really can't see Grimmy using that kill as scum (WIFOM mode engaged).
I still think vanilla-style scumhunting is the way forward.
1) IN the QT, I posted the assumption that YOU were the one who sent me for the kill. Your posts afterwards made me think otherwise, as you were questioning me as to what happened and why.andersonw wrote:@Grimmy: could you still explain why you didn't post in the QT, when you had like 3 days to do so? Also, could you explain why you thought that you would have been targeted tonight or tomorrow, and why you implied you would have died?
His belief that Farkshinsoup was guilty matches up with what he said in the quicktopic. However, he did not imply that he was forced to do a vig kill, he said that he received a vig kill.
This is also the reason I tend to believe Camn's claim. I was in that game with you, and my character, while it seemed scummy (the guy from Mystery Science Theater 3k), I was actually town.Knight of Cydonia wrote: *No claim is too outrageous. I survived for two days in Sci-Fi/Fantasy Mafia by claiming 1-shot bulletproof vig (Samwise Gamgee) as the Mafia Godfather (Sauron).
You sent a prod on Friday, and was recieved today. It is in my sig and was made mention of in the beginning of the game that I have NO access on weekends.destructor wrote:Grimmy hasn't posted in eleven days and will be replaced.
For incogGrimmy wrote:1) IN the QT, I posted the assumption that YOU were the one who sent me for the kill. Your posts afterwards made me think otherwise, as you were questioning me as to what happened and why.andersonw wrote:@Grimmy: could you still explain why you didn't post in the QT, when you had like 3 days to do so? Also, could you explain why you thought that you would have been targeted tonight or tomorrow, and why you implied you would have died?
His belief that Farkshinsoup was guilty matches up with what he said in the quicktopic. However, he did not imply that he was forced to do a vig kill, he said that he received a vig kill.
2) RL issues. I check certain spots sporadically when i get a free minute or three. These issues will continue over the next couple of weeks as the holidays wreck havok on my deadlines at work
3) In most games ive seen, declaring masonship makes you a target for Night kills. Also, the fact that I even did the kill made me think I would be NK'ed, because I was under the impression that I killed a scum and they would be targeting me. I also assumed that if I lived to the day scene, the town would quick lynch me for the kill the day before.
Grimmy
For incogGrimmy wrote:1) IN the QT, I posted the assumption that YOU were the one who sent me for the kill. Your posts afterwards made me think otherwise, as you were questioning me as to what happened and why.andersonw wrote:@Grimmy: could you still explain why you didn't post in the QT, when you had like 3 days to do so? Also, could you explain why you thought that you would have been targeted tonight or tomorrow, and why you implied you would have died?
His belief that Farkshinsoup was guilty matches up with what he said in the quicktopic. However, he did not imply that he was forced to do a vig kill, he said that he received a vig kill.
2) RL issues. I check certain spots sporadically when i get a free minute or three. These issues will continue over the next couple of weeks as the holidays wreck havok on my deadlines at work
3) In most games ive seen, declaring masonship makes you a target for Night kills. Also, the fact that I even did the kill made me think I would be NK'ed, because I was under the impression that I killed a scum and they would be targeting me. I also assumed that if I lived to the day scene, the town would quick lynch me for the kill the day before.
Grimmy