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populartajo · Post Post #44 (isolation #0) » Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:50 am

Tarhalindur wrote:In other news, Erratus Apathos is obvtown.

No.

Vote:Erratus Apathos.

populartajo · Post Post #55 (isolation #1) » Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:00 pm

Its not Xotxm. Also fail at that smiley.

Unvote Vote Jebus

populartajo · Post Post #57 (isolation #2) » Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:48 pm

Hey TSPN.

populartajo · Post Post #83 (isolation #3) » Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:02 am

Im bored.
Im vanilla.
Discuss.

populartajo · Post Post #90 (isolation #4) » Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:41 am

massive wrote:Man, and I thought random-voting on this site had gotten bad in the 12-person games.

Shut up.

Unvote Vote : massive.

populartajo · Post Post #115 (isolation #5) » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:55 pm

Notice the old fart.

populartajo · Post Post #117 (isolation #6) » Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:03 pm

Notice the Im bored.

populartajo · Post Post #136 (isolation #7) » Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:05 am

Now that I see that post, the reasons why Sierra FOSes me and votes Seraphims arent scumtells at all.
And that italicezed sentence really feels off as Thar notices. He's a wise man.

So, Vote : Sierra

populartajo · Post Post #140 (isolation #8) » Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:23 am

Judging by his avatar and his goon status I wouldnt take him so serious until a big big scumtell.

populartajo · Post Post #142 (isolation #9) » Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:29 am

Read my post again plz. I never said that.

populartajo · Post Post #144 (isolation #10) » Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:31 am

What strong scum tell?

populartajo · Post Post #146 (isolation #11) » Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:35 am

And why cant he be a dumb newbie (again judged by his avatar and his goon status?)
Why is that a strong scumtell?

populartajo · Post Post #148 (isolation #12) » Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:42 am

Ok but why is he scum in page5?

populartajo · Post Post #151 (isolation #13) » Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:48 am

Where can I find that information?

populartajo · Post Post #171 (isolation #14) » Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:02 am

What's my case again?

populartajo · Post Post #176 (isolation #15) » Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:29 am

Tarhalindur wrote:poptajo: Horrible Sierra vote + really bad vanilla claim + defending Stef w/ newbie card

1. I explained my vote on Sierra. Its not horrible. I explained that the things he suspected arent scumtells.
2. My vanilla claim was because I was bored and I wanted to generate discussion. Null tell, IMO.
3. I didnt defend Stef. All I am asking is why are people so sure about scumtells. Yes, I know they are indicative of more probable alignment, but didnt I just say that this guy could be inexperienced?
My question is why CANT he be a newbie? Im not saying he is not scum. My point is why are people so sure of his allignment in page 6? This may be related with experience with scumtells and such but I just watched three games in a row where a dumb townie was lynched because he was full of scumtells.

FOS : Thar and Armlx.

They should know this.

populartajo · Post Post #178 (isolation #16) » Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:43 am

My question is why CANT he be a newbie? Im not saying he is not scum. My point is why are people so sure of his allignment in page 6? This may be related with experience with scumtells and such but I just watched three games in a row where a dumb townie was lynched because he was full of scumtells.

populartajo · Post Post #196 (isolation #17) » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:59 am

Regarding my vanilla claim.
This isnt WIFOM. Its common sense. If I were scum, why would I bring unnecessary attention to myself with that claim? I WAS BORED. I hate the random stage. I wanted discussion. Yes, its antitown but it doesnt suggest allignment in the context it was used : random stage. Thats why its null.
I dont have problems when people attack me but please, think before you post.

Regarding Stef's case.
The only thing Im saying is that since he's a newbie then he's more prone to make scumtells. I NEVER SAID HE WASNT SCUM. What worries me is that some experienced players think that scumtells are infalible and that they are the ultimate truth and that if I dont agree with them that makes me OBVIOUS scum.
This is the logic used : Stef could be scum, Tajo says he could be a newbie, then Tajo is his scumpartner. WTF??!!
I even said that its like the third time that I see "experienced ones" lynching a newbie townie for being a bag of scumtells. Stef could be scum but ITS TOO EARLY to be so sure about that.
Thar and Armlx are taking this argument further than Id like.

Now look for a better target. Ill analyse reactions later. Kthxbay.

populartajo · Post Post #202 (isolation #18) » Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:50 pm

Armlx, is my vanilla claim a scumtell? Is it my disagreement in Stef's situation?

populartajo · Post Post #233 (isolation #19) » Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:35 am

Do I have to explain again why I am not scum, Thar?

populartajo · Post Post #234 (isolation #20) » Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:41 am

sekinj wrote:@PT: you have yet to address my post 150. Please explain your flip-flopping.

Theres no flip-flopping.
Theres a difference between defending him and only pointing out that if he has a goon status and a Saddam-Sattan avatar we should think twice before wagoning/lynching him.
I understand he could be scum. Ive played with newbies before but newbies ARE MORE PRONE to scumtells.
Thats all ive been saying in this freaking game and NO ONE seems to understand.
And if someone should be lynched it must be him and not me because what I did (as some people call "defending" HAS ZERO MOTIVATION as scum.

populartajo · Post Post #236 (isolation #21) » Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:58 am

When did I deny saying he was a newbie?

populartajo · Post Post #238 (isolation #22) » Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:08 am

WHY IS MY OPINION OF A BANDWAGON OF A NEWBIE CONSIDERED A DEFENCE AND WHY IS IT SCUMMY (I.E. MOTIVATED FOR SCUM REASONS)?

populartajo · Post Post #259 (isolation #23) » Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:32 pm

THAR STOP PUSHING THIS STUPID CASE. EITHER YOU ARE SCUM OR YOU ARE JUST A HORRIBLE PLAYER.

The case on me is based in a bulshit assumption that I am defending Stef, who you assumed he was scum.

THE ONLY THING I WAS SAYING IS THAT HE HAS A GOON STATUS AND A SADAM/SATAN AVATAR. THEREFORE HES A NEWBIE. THEREFORE HES MORE PRONE TO MAKE SCUMTELLS. THEREFORE ITS IDIOTIC TO JUMP AGAINST HIM WITH SUCH SECURITY IN PAGE 5 OF A GAME WHEN NOT EVEN ALL THE PLAYERS HAD POSTED.
IF ARMLX THE EXPERIENCED HAD MADE THAT SCUMTELL I WOULD TOTATLLY HAVE VOTED FOR HIM. BUT I WOULDNT HAVE DONE THAT FOR STEF THE NEWBIE. I HAVE TO THINK TWICE BEFORE VOTING HIM. IF HE WAS NEWBIE SCUM THEN PRETTY SURE HE WOULD CONFIRM HIS STATUS LATER IN THE GAME.

Thats the only thing I said. Armlx and you are making a big case out of this. My commentary was just to BRING MY OPINION to the game and ITS MOTIVATED TO PREVENT NOT OPTYMAL WAGONS.

And I repeat, theres no motivation for scum to do that. If you think I was scum siding with a townie then what a horrible and idiotic play because I derailed a perfect wagon to bring all the attention to me. If you think scum defending scumpartner, then the person you should voting is him, not me.

The bussing theorys are shit shit shit. You think you found two scum in one day? YOU KNOW THIS GAME ISNT THAT EASY.

IF YOU WANT ME TO CLAIM NOW AND AVOID THIS STUPID CONVERSATION JUST TELL ME.

populartajo · Post Post #272 (isolation #24) » Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:50 pm

OF COURSE IM A POWER ROLE. I WOULDNT BE FIGHTING THIS HARD IF I WERE VANILLA.
ITS THE SAME FOR ME. LYNCH ME OR LET SCUM KILL ME TONIGHT.
I PLAYED HORRIBLY I RECOGNIZE BUT ALL THE PEOPLE IN MY WAGON SIMPLY CANT BE SCUM AND JUMP AGAINST ME EVEN THOUGH IVE EXPLAINED WHY I AM NOT SCUM.
I AM A DOCTOR.
DO WHATEVER YOU WANT GUYS. IM DONE.

populartajo · Post Post #307 (isolation #25) » Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:01 am

armlx wrote:Sigh, what is it with vanilla townies thinking lying about their role is a good thing these days?

Oh yeah. Stupid ABR.