Mini 681 - Mish Mash Mafia - THE END!

[MafiaSSK]

Vote:Shadowgirl

Random.

[MafiaSSK]

Its gunna be ETE for the day.

[MafiaSSK]

I like Sekinj's method as well.

[MafiaSSK]

Empking is acting really scummy.

Lynch:Empking

[MafiaSSK]

I'm gunna trust sekinj as he's the one coming up with the glorius plans.

Unvote, vote sekinj

[MafiaSSK]

I'm gunna trust sekinj as he's the one coming up with the glorius plans.

Unvote, vote sekinj

What plans are these?

Sekinj is the person I'd most likely have lynched at the moment.

How to decide our lynches and how to decide our executioner of course.

[MafiaSSK]

Automatically lynched the next day or whatever.

I assume if we even get to that point, it means that everyone would've already agreed to following the plan, so I see no reason they would stray at the last minute.

Regardless of the person they killed is scum or town?

If its scum, then it was still an anti-town thing to do.

[MafiaSSK]

How to decide our lynches and how to decide our executioner of course.

As Mana has already pointed out, it wasn't her idea. It was Caboose's.

I meant the whole Lynch for who want to lynch the Vote for who we want to be executioner and so on and so forth.

[MafiaSSK]

I meant the whole Lynch for who want to lynch the Vote for who we want to be executioner and so on and so forth.

But almost no one is following that format now, including you.

But I am.

[MafiaSSK]

Oh yes, I guess you are.

But explain to me why you're voting for the person who basically clarified an idea that was already on the table rather than the person who suggested the idea? I agree that it's a better idea, but I don't see why making something more clear=more town.

Because I think that Caboose actually seems scummy unlike sekinj.

[MafiaSSK]

What posts of his makes him seem scummy?

Nevermind. Did a quick reread and actually though he seemed pretty town.

Unvote, vote caboose

[MafiaSSK]

Quick it was.

What do you think of skipping the vote for executioner and vote for who to lynch like in a regular mafia game? That way, majority would be deciding who is lynched, instead of one person.

I wholeheartedly agree with the idea which is why I've used the format suggested by sekinj.

[MafiaSSK]

Quick it was.

What do you think of skipping the vote for executioner and vote for who to lynch like in a regular mafia game? That way, majority would be deciding who is lynched, instead of one person.

I wholeheartedly agree with the idea which is why I've used the format suggested by sekinj.

I'm not talking about that though. I'm asking what you think of playing this like a regular mafia game rather than electing an executioner. We lynch who is most scummy. It removes the possibility of electing scum as the executioner.

I think its a great idea to play it lkike a regular mafia game instead of an Elect the Executioner.

[MafiaSSK]

Sekinj's idea is still the way to go.

Shoot: LBF

[MafiaSSK]

Wow, are all of you that want to shoot me actually think I am scummy or are you only voting me because you don't disagree with me?

Both.

[MafiaSSK]

Lynch :LBF

[MafiaSSK]

OP, I think it would be more productive for you to post your thoughts on people, instead of moping about being [possibly] killed.

Agreed with this.

[MafiaSSK]

Obama Bomb: If you attack someone this round you gain +20 energy.

[MafiaSSK]

I'll bid 1 on my Obama Bomb.

[MafiaSSK]

I'll bid 15 on obama bomb and 7 on campaign commercial.

[MafiaSSK]

I bid 50 on electoral college and 25 on campaign commercial.

[MafiaSSK]

SG, Max is searching for a replacement for Crazy.

[MafiaSSK]

If it hasn't been mentioned already I'm VLA until Friday. I put sekinj in charge of my votes.

[MafiaSSK]

Mod:Does my power auto happen?

[MafiaSSK]

PHASE I has begun

Voting takes place in the format

Attack X: A
Defend: B
Power Usage: PoY on PlY

X is replaced by a player, you can have as many of these lines as you like
A and B is replaced with a number
PoY is replaced with power name, PlY is replaced by Player this power is going to be used on, you can have as many of these lines as you like

I don't like the fact that farside and mafia have 3 powers and I don't like the fact that mafia made a really powerful weapon, plus his lurking.

Power Usage: Expose Dark Secret on MafiaSSK

I only have two powers if I count correctly.

[MafiaSSK]

What's with people not saying why they attack ? I think I'm the only one that gave anything resembling a justification...

Attacking in this mini game is like voting, so it should be justified, in my opinion. Unless there's something I don't get...

Well Empking's attack for poor reasoning is suspect. I feel a few people are attacking him for that reason.
I attacked Mafia because I felt he has done little to poor scum hunting. He has said nothing but one liners all game.

That's how SSK always is, though.

Still waiting on explanation from Emp.

The few games I played with SSk he usually was more talkative.

SSK has quite a strange approach to mafia. In one game I played with him, he questioned the cop's sanity AFTER the cop got an innocent on him, and he ended up being a townie.
My only other meta I have from SSK is from an ongoing game, so I really can't talk about it.

Fang Tooth Nightmare was horrible I have to admit.
Also Farside, I've had a buch of stuff to do I can't be as talktive as I usually am.

[MafiaSSK]

Very much so.

[MafiaSSK]

Thanks guys I agree with the Caboose theory and of course with the opinions of me. I think Caboose has had good input, and I still don't like the D1 attacks against him.

Vote: Caboose

Seems like your bussing your buddy there. Doesn't seem like normal town apprecianting.

[MafiaSSK]

Since he has been one of the scummiest players... maybe that just about clears both of us...

Not in my eyes. Even if he's scum, he could be bussing too.

I'd like MafiaSSK to expand on his accusation too. I guess every message in favor of another player could be seen as mafia helping each other, but I didn't see this message as especially suspicious. Well, except that sekinj is again following my vote, and last time it lead to a mislynch... Can't really blame him, since I still think my points were valid and he has a brain too, but still...

Not much else besides vibes really.

[MafiaSSK]

Since he has been one of the scummiest players... maybe that just about clears both of us...

Not in my eyes. Even if he's scum, he could be bussing too.

I'd like MafiaSSK to expand on his accusation too. I guess every message in favor of another player could be seen as mafia helping each other, but I didn't see this message as especially suspicious. Well, except that sekinj is again following my vote, and last time it lead to a mislynch... Can't really blame him, since I still think my points were valid and he has a brain too, but still...

Not much else besides vibes really.

Seriously? You need more than vibes to put forth a good accusation of sekinj and I. How about something from posts?

Should I underline the part of the post where I got it from? Would that be considrered proof?

[MafiaSSK]

Wow... That seemed like a rather rushed nomination.

Post (hopefully) after Survivor, or tommorow.

It's D3. People already have ideas about who's town and who's scum. Do you?

SSK plays Mafia like guerilla fighters fight a war. He posts an attack and then runs away for a while.

The thing is the whole post seemed scummy so it would be useless to underline the whole post.

[MafiaSSK]

Sekinj still seems most town

Save:sekinj

[MafiaSSK]

@all : did anyone play with Caboose before, and if yes, does he always show this kind of behavior ?

Yup.

[MafiaSSK]

MafiaSSK - are you going to anything this game?

Trying to contribute.

[MafiaSSK]

Caboose:

Most of the quotes are in other sections of this post. However,

I find it odd how hostile he is being by my and hur's comments on page 25, even though he is safe.

Seriously? Is this it? And I get labelled because of this? Being defensive =/= scumtell. You should know this by now, SG.

Clear dislike for Sekinj and Caboose, and killing him off in the first night would be much too obvious - however, they both pile on a total of 120 attack on him on day two, ensuring he doesn't make it to the next round.

LOL. This has to be the clumsiest attempt at vote meta that I've ever seen.

You are another player who has been perceived to be pro-town and throwing support for sekinj would possibly get people to vote along with her on RF.

Read my posts before just spouting random stuff and say things that are, you know, true. I have no support for the RF camp right now and I don't have any support for the sekinj one either. Yet you try to frame me like I do.

Here's who I think the scumteam is:

SG - SSK - KoC

All three of them have made blatant crap attacks on me in the course of this game. KoC's came D1 when he tried to frame my organization idea as scummy. That's called strawmanning and that

is

a scumtell. SSK makes a crap attack on me, myseriously disappears and then lurks, only posting to make sure he's not prodded. SG's accusations are a joke. She tries to make defensiveness into a scumtell and then gives all this crappy vote meta to try to frame me. Did the idea that maybe the scumteam sat back and watched us screw up cross her mind at all? That leads to WIFOM, which is why raw vote meta is crap, and that's the basis of her labelling.

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How was my attack crap again?

[MafiaSSK]

I hate stuff like this: "Oh, just ignore X. He

always

acts anti-town. He did so in game Y, was lynched, and flipped town. So now we just let him get away with whatever the hell he wants." You run the risk of making this game incredibly easy for the scum. I'm definitely not going to be casting a save vote for MafiaSSK anytime soon, that's for sure.

So you're saying that you hate meta?

[MafiaSSK]

I hate stuff like this: "Oh, just ignore X. He

always

acts anti-town. He did so in game Y, was lynched, and flipped town. So now we just let him get away with whatever the hell he wants." You run the risk of making this game incredibly easy for the scum. I'm definitely not going to be casting a save vote for MafiaSSK anytime soon, that's for sure.

Logically, as I have no idea how to assess him, I should place MafiaSSK at exact neutral (between those I think are more town, and those I think are on the scummy side), so he would not be my last voted. Problem is, I hate this kind of play, so I think I will not act logically in this one case.

Is it because I'm playing as I usually would without any change to my meta?

[MafiaSSK]

I hate stuff like this: "Oh, just ignore X. He

always

acts anti-town. He did so in game Y, was lynched, and flipped town. So now we just let him get away with whatever the hell he wants." You run the risk of making this game incredibly easy for the scum. I'm definitely not going to be casting a save vote for MafiaSSK anytime soon, that's for sure.

Logically, as I have no idea how to assess him, I should place MafiaSSK at exact neutral (between those I think are more town, and those I think are on the scummy side), so he would not be my last voted. Problem is, I hate this kind of play, so I think I will not act logically in this one case.

Is it because I'm playing as I usually would without any change to my meta?

No, meta cannot help in any way in this case.

Why?

[MafiaSSK]

I hate stuff like this: "Oh, just ignore X. He

always

acts anti-town. He did so in game Y, was lynched, and flipped town. So now we just let him get away with whatever the hell he wants." You run the risk of making this game incredibly easy for the scum. I'm definitely not going to be casting a save vote for MafiaSSK anytime soon, that's for sure.

Logically, as I have no idea how to assess him, I should place MafiaSSK at exact neutral (between those I think are more town, and those I think are on the scummy side), so he would not be my last voted. Problem is, I hate this kind of play, so I think I will not act logically in this one case.

Is it because I'm playing as I usually would without any change to my meta?

No, meta cannot help in any way in this case.

Why?

Because your participation is insignificant (in my opinion at least), so there's no way to discern any variation in your play that could be specific to you playing town, or you playing scum.

Except for the fact that I'm increasing my participation/

[MafiaSSK]

Consider yourself no longer even at the bottom of my save-list. Consider yourself lying scum, lying scum.

This I consider scummy. I don't know why but I just do.

Fos:KoC

[MafiaSSK]

I think SGscum wouldn't bus because it would look obvious.

[MafiaSSK]

I think SGscum wouldn't bus because it would look obvious.

What do you mean?
.

That SG isn't scum. So much in fact that I'll

Save SG

[MafiaSSK]

@ ssk - you are more convinced that sg is town than you are of yourself beingtown? Interesting...

No. I wasn't saying that.

[MafiaSSK]

Unvote,Vote:MafiaSSK

Just in case.

[MafiaSSK]

ok... so SSK is safe??

Unless RF fake-voted.

[MafiaSSK]

Yeah. RF faked it.

[MafiaSSK]

Sorry the above is meant to say

"This is lylo if at any stage all three mafias are declared safe they win. "

[MafiaSSK]

You mean town lost?...

Yes.