Open 80 - Double Day Mafia (Game Over!)

[Firestarter]

And armlx.. please try harder...

I don't get it. You assume because I haven't changed my mind, I haven't looked?

I haven't assumed anything, because your posts are devoid of anything to make assumptions from...

But if you HAVE looked, than alternate information other than your norm would be appreciated... by all.

1600 - THIS. IS. FIVE AND A THIRD TIMES MORE EFFECTIVE THAN SPARTA

SpyreX - 3 (Firestarter, orangepenguin, StrangerCoug)
Firestarter - 2 (SpyreX, armlx)
Manito - 1 (LlamaFluff)
FaerieLord - 1 (Manito)
StrangerCoug - 1 (TheSweatpantsNinja)

Not voting - Joubert, killa seven, FaerieLord, CF Riot

12 alive, 7 to lynch.

-Mod

[armlx]

I haven't assumed anything, because your posts are devoid of anything to make assumptions from...

That's pretty much a bold faced lie and you know it.

[SpyreX]

In retrospect, your hammer is exactly what scum would do, progress and see through the double day, take town down, Nightkill, Voila!!

I'm not going to get into the whole WIFOM with you, but

really

? Scum would do what I did - ? - not get lynched - kill another town - nightkill - somehow survive and continue on to win (since we are NOT near lylo yet)

Im not buying this "turbolynch" if Im honest, the hallmarks of scum are written all over it, and even more so after 2 of your posts, post-lynch, said you weren't surprised that KoC was town..

Your not buying what about it? That I said thats what I wanted? That I hammered when the opportunity presented itself? Well, thats fine, you dont have to buy anything - its there in the posts.

The reasoning your offering why you would hammer someone you obviously thought of as more town than scum at the time you hammered doesn't stand up with me.

This is one of my favorite scum building weak-case scumtells. Where, anytime, in any of my posts did I obviously say KoC was more town than scum? Go ahead, look - see if you can find anywhere I said KoC was town before the hammer. Subscribing "scummy motives" to my clear-cut actions is always a fun one - mostly because its soo scummy and it just begs for a defense against things that didn't happen. Nice try, though.

Now, if you're basing that off my "surprised" comment - no, as I've said I wasn't surprised he was town considering how the lynch went down. I've said I think there are scum(s) on that wagon. However, the flipside is that there obviously (duh) are town on that wagon: why would I leave a suspicious player around (who I said more than once I found scummy) to be a continual issue?

My vote is on you right now but lets say the EXACT same scenario went down with another scummer like K7. I would put that hammer down just as fast and it would be just as ridiculous that its some fantastic "scum-tell" the next day.

On an aside:

I haven't assumed anything, because your posts are devoid of anything to make assumptions from...

Another awesome statement: by nature you are assuming he hasn't looked at anyone else because his main cases haven't changed.

Hell, most of your case on me is assumptions flavored with delicious OMGUS and you're doing it again.

This is scummy. You're scum.

[orangepenguin]

unvote

Mine was a bit omgus, but I thought FS was onto something. I did notice, before your post saying we were partners and the 2.5 started, that this entire game, you have gone under the radar, so I wanted to look at you. I still think Killa seven is scummy and he has continued to keep going away and popping up when he's the subject of attention, basically active lurking and being scummy the entire game.

vote: k7

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[FaerieLord]

I'm being really unfair to this game. I'm not paying any attention. I promise that by the end of the week I'll be back.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

You brought up my not getting the attention you wanted before you mentioned the vote on Knight of Cydonia, which made the former look like part of your case on me. Be careful doing that please.

I don't see how anyone paying attention to the game could possibly be confused when I went after the same person I had gone after yesterday. One would think

you

would recall that I had gone after you, so your "confusion" seems hard to believe.

[CF Riot]

TSN any 2nd or 3rd place suspects?

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Firestarter would be second, for sure, and after that. . . k7, I suppose, although that's as much due to my general "killa seven is always a 10 percent better choice than a random lynch" feeling.

[armlx]

I notice a recurring group of 4 among everybody.

SC, K7, FL, FS.

Does anyone not have at least 1 of those on their scum list?

[somestrangeflea]

killa seven has been prodded.

Still looking for a replacement for Joubert.

[LlamaFluff]

I notice a recurring group of 4 among everybody.

SC, K7, FL, FS.

Does anyone not have at least 1 of those on their scum list?

Yeah but im not too sure I like where this might be headed

[killa seven]

Oh Hai!

[SpyreX]

I notice a recurring group of 4 among everybody.

SC, K7, FL, FS.

Does anyone not have at least 1 of those on their scum list?

Ohh hay that list looks familiar. I'm 3.5/4 woot woot.

Yes, there's a couple problems at this point with how much "agreement" we have.

*) If all us of agree, that means either:
--- Scum are more than happy to bus their buddies.
------- If I was scum and not them hell yes I would (it would be more obvious at this juncture if someone DIDNT find them scummy).
--- They are all town.
------- If they are all town, we lose. Thats all the lynches left.

However, on some level its lip service:
K7, FL and FS have been lynch candidates for a long time now and, miraculously they have not been able to get lynched yet (waa waa I hammered yea I know). This implies that although players are

saying

they want them lynched they don't. Which, to me, implies that at least one of them are scum.

Also, and this is a duh, none of these players are going to be NK's. There's absolutely no reason in this setup for any of those to be NK's which means we have to deal with them one way or the other during the days.

Now, personally as should be obvious from my vote: I'm not going to second guess myself out of this at this juncture (maybe at lylo if at that point we've been wrong) - they've been scummy, they are scummy or they are K7. Regardless, they need to go (assuming, of course, no major changes in how the game flows which I doubt will see in a mountainous game).

[Firestarter]

@ Spyrex..

Given your last post, why are you not voting K7 then?

He is as useful as an underwater hairdryer right now, and given how you reasoned the lynch of KoC, I cant see why your vote is anywhere but on K7...

[Firestarter]

EBWOP..

When I say your last post, I meant the one before the one you posted at the same time I posted mine...

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

This implies that although players are saying they want them lynched they don't. Which, to me, implies that at least one of them are scum.

I think so also. In particular, the sudden switch from growing FS-wagon to sudden KoC lynch was notable.

Of course, its hard to tell the difference between people who are pretending to have tepid scummy feelings about scumbuddies, and people who actually have tepid scummy feelings about players (say, k7 in my case).

[SpyreX]

@ Spyrex..

Given your last post, why are you not voting K7 then?

He is as useful as an underwater hairdryer right now, and given how you reasoned the lynch of KoC, I cant see why your vote is anywhere but on K7...

Sometimes I wonder if you're for real.

EVERYONE ELSE LOOK AT THIS.

Why am I not voting K7? Because, although I want him dead for his play - I've been more certain of your scumminess since forever. There's a

decent

chance he's lurker scum, however,

due to your play

and your waspish and unfounded OMGUS attacks on my vote on you you have been a much better candidate.

You've tried to shift votes off you by OMGUS'ing me.
You're now trying to get me to shift to K7 on the grounds of worthlessness (hint, not scumminess).
You were more than happy to be a power-jump on the KoC wagon to save yourself (by lynching CFR's "buddy" on weak, weak grounds).

This is scummy. This is scum play.

Please lynch him kthx.

[Firestarter]

A Power Jump on KoC's wagon...
You have gotta be kidding me with that statement..
Coming from the Power-Hammerer yourself.

I feel your getting a bit desperate now Spyrex with that last post.

Everyone look at Firestarter, see how Omgusy he is, etc, etc....

To be honest, since you recieved your first vote in this game, you have prepped up 500%....

Is it mere coincidence that your posting after KoC's lynch has shot up several levels...?
Is it simply that your no longer in the comfort zone you were in up to this day?

Is it simply, that I may be onto something?

I know youv'e posted in one post that your "enthusiasm" for this game has perked since, surprisingly enough, your first vote!!
No need to make mention of this however, its duly noted.

[Firestarter]

Why am I not voting K7? Because, although I want him dead for his play - I've been more certain of your scumminess since forever. There's a decent chance he's lurker scum, however, due to your play and your waspish and unfounded OMGUS attacks

on my vote on you

you have been a much better candidate.

Aw, hope I didn't hurt that proud ego Spyrex...

This is no different to what others have tried to get me lynched for, why do you

NOW

feel it so necessary to shout it out at the top of your lungs, when you didn't exhibit the same while I voted others, apparently for the same reason?

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

A Power Jump on KoC's wagon...
You have gotta be kidding me with that statement..
Coming from the Power-Hammerer yourself.

In your opinion, what is the difference in scumminess between spyrex's hammer and you putting KoC at L-1?

[CF Riot]

FS give me your top 3 and why. I'm working towards a vote. This should be the last person I ask this to before I commit.

[Firestarter]

A Power Jump on KoC's wagon...
You have gotta be kidding me with that statement..
Coming from the Power-Hammerer yourself.

In your opinion, what is the difference in scumminess between spyrex's hammer and you putting KoC at L-1?

You'd be better off asking the actual player who placed KoC at -1.....

It wasn't me...

[Firestarter]

Right now... I have 2 main suspects...

1. Spyrex
2. K7


Spyrex has been getting very emotional since his first vote was placed on his shoulders, and has increasingly got involved in the game since...
Before, he was very happy to go with the flow, and post what can be deemed necessary at certain times.
His hammer, the way he did it, and his subsequent posts all bother me..
Not to mention his instant eturn to the 2nd favoured votee, me, right after KoC's lynching.
Ive also given way to my thinking on Meta simply because I didn't have enough gametime in MS to understand that it has benefits.
I see a clear difference in the approach Spyrex has made to this game than the last I played with him.

K7, IMO, its ridiculous he's gotten so far in this game....
He has done barely enough to be described as a player here.
Lurking scum is afoot... big time.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

You'd be better off asking the actual player who placed KoC at -1.....

Er, L-2. You're right, L-1 was SC. The question still stands.

[CF Riot]

That didn't really help me much but it might later.

Vote: StrangerCoug

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Something is not right but I can't figure it out yet. I think we should lynch someone that was on the KoC wagon today.