Moving to the Univesal ## Format - Discuss

[JDodge]

If this becomes commonplace, I'm searching for a new place to play. It would be a sign of how lazy and/or stupid our mods have gotten.

Have we gotten to the point when people can no longer recognize

bolded text

?

[JDodge]

If this becomes commonplace, I'm searching for a new place to play. It would be a sign of how lazy and/or stupid our mods have gotten.

Have we gotten to the point when people can no longer recognize

bolded text

?

This would be an

improvement

that reduces the work-load on mods and will likely reduce the amount of mistakes made. The fact mods should already be able to handle the stress of modding does not change the fact we should revise and improve our conventions, even if they aren't nessecary.

If they don't have time for the current work-load, they shouldn't be modding. If them making mistakes under the current system is frequent to the point we need to change an

entire system

just to hold their hands, they shouldn't be modding.

Players who would pass up an otherwise good game just because of the ## rule need to stop being lazy.

Gasp, you say, he calls the players lazy when everyone else calls the mod lazy. Well yes, players are lazy. Have we gotten to a point where players don't read the rules?

Show me where rules are posted prior to a game starting and I might be inclined to agree a bit more.

OH WAIT!

If this becomes commonplace, I'm searching for a new place to play. It would be a sign of how lazy and/or stupid our mods have gotten.

Have we gotten to the point when people can no longer recognize

bolded text

?

Have we gotten to the point where people fail to realize that most of the

bolded text

(emphasized words, quotes votes, etc...) aren't votes?

Then ban bold text from anything

but

said votes and otherwise. Banning text styles is commonplace, forcing your work onto the players is horrendously lazy and tacky.

[JDodge]

JDodge, if a mod asks you to read the rules ahead of time,

do it

.

I am surprised that so many people are willing to join or not join games based on two hash signs.

I agree on the first.

Give me an example of where the rules for any game I have signed up for where this rule was in effect had the rules posted before the time the player list is finalized, which is the point where you have a social contractual obligation to play.

If them making mistakes under the current system is frequent to the point we need to change an

entire system

just to hold their hands, they shouldn't be modding.

It's not an

entire system

it's two extra characters. It takes something like 4 seconds extra to type ##vote instead of vote. It's really not a big deal, or even a small deal.

Its a system that has worked for years and only isn't working cause we've been inundated with a series of lazy/incompetent mods.

Do you have a problem with change?

With unnecessary change that only stands to coddle the incompetent/lazy.

Refusing to put ## in front of your votes is either incompetence or sloth.

And it's incompetence and sloth on the point of the mod to force it upon people. I'd say that the shortcomings of 1 affecting 12 or more (example) are worse than the shortcomings of 12 or more affecting one.

[JDodge]

My point is that it makes it easier for me as a mod, and I do not feel that it is a significant effort on the part of the players.

I think it'd be even less on an effort for you to do your job. YAY I WIN THE ARGUMENT

Here. For added bonus, For the same game.

K. You may replace me then, my mistake.

[JDodge]

ITT Oman tries to bypass the fact that he's the minority opinion by using ITT

Wah! I was not of the minority, because I didn't really have an opinion on it either way, I felt malinformed.

Changing the format of our votes from

Vote Unvote

to

##Vote ##Unvote.

This makes it easier for mods to search for the votes, resulting in less mised votes. Its also REALLY clear to see from a player's pespective.

"So what can I do?" When you mod, make it your format. When you play screw the mod and make it your format anyway. As soon as people start using it it will fall into common usage and become standard.

What do you all think about this, remove some ambiguity and make things easier for our mods?

Looks like a pretty clear opinion to me.

[JDodge]

ITT Oman tries to bypass the fact that he's the minority opinion by using ITT

Wah! I was not of the minority, because I didn't really have an opinion on it either way, I felt malinformed.

Changing the format of our votes from

Vote Unvote

to

##Vote ##Unvote.

This makes it easier for mods to search for the votes, resulting in less mised votes. Its also REALLY clear to see from a player's pespective.

"So what can I do?" When you mod, make it your format. When you play screw the mod and make it your format anyway. As soon as people start using it it will fall into common usage and become standard.

What do you all think about this, remove some ambiguity and make things easier for our mods?

Looks like a pretty clear opinion to me.

That was off one person I'd spoken to at the time. Notice my games don't use it...

Right. So you didn't try to distance yourself from an opinion, you just took someone's opinion and passed it off as your own.