Mini 653 - Family Guy Mafia - Game over

[Rockatansky]

• His request for me to nameclaim
• His threat to vote me should I not namclaim
• Him voting me when I baited him
• His use of WIFOM to warrant a vote on me, it is by far usually scum who brings this up
• His accusation of OMUS when I said I could be convinced on his lynch

I hope you see how, even though you have five bullet points listed out here, your case against reborn pretty much consists of the fact that he's voting for you.

[Xtoxm]

I am not misguided.

[Xtoxm]

No, it's about him being scummy.

[reborn537]

1.) There are both pro-town and anti-town reasons for Xtoxm to withhold this information.

2.) Xtoxm claimed the information he felt necessary to claim, not because he was brought to L-1 and the town demanded him to claim, but because his lover partner, BG, screeched out her claim under minimal pressure.

3.) There are both pro-town and anti-town reasons for reborn to push Xtoxm to nameclaim.

4.) Reborn has been consistently analyzing people's claims and asking them to reveal the flavor text of their role.

Therefore, I find this whole thing to be kind of null.

I agree with this, and I don't get people who are saying that xtoxm, because he won't name claim, must be scum.

I think xtoxm has been wrong about just about everything he's posted this game, but being wrong doesn't make him scum. The way that he continued to push for LF's lynch even after he took heat for it seems more like a townie who is convinced he's right than scum. I disagree with the idea of lynching LF because of LF's vote limitation, but I think if xtoxm were scum he'd just shut up about it rather than continue to draw attention to himself.

I'm obviously somewhat biased in my analysis, since if xtoxm dies I die, but I think he is likely to be misguided town here.

I consider it more likely to be the other way around. I think BG was a "lazy townie" although it seems she actually really didn't have time to play. You seem to be much more considered and careful, which is good as the town really needs people with some decent reasoning - too many of the posts so far have been unconsidered and irrelevent.

I'm almost willing to hold off on Xtoxm just for the purpose of keeping you alive, but I would also liketo hear some examples of why it's good not to nameclaim. I don't claim to know everything, and this is only my 3rd mini theme on the site, so by all menas feel free to educate me on this.

[reborn537]

• His request for me to nameclaim
• His threat to vote me should I not namclaim
• Him voting me when I baited him
• His use of WIFOM to warrant a vote on me, it is by far usually scum who brings this up
• His accusation of OMUS when I said I could be convinced on his lynch

I hope you see how, even though you have five bullet points listed out here, your case against reborn pretty much consists of the fact that he's voting for you.

Do I even have to quote this for truth?

[Xtoxm]

Rock clearly doesn't understand then.

His statemant is just as flawed as you.

[Save The Dragons]

I am definitely not a fan of xtoxm's flavor of the week voting style (are you going to vote me again if I say that there's 3 points against you now?). It seriously is starting to seem like he's throwing shit against the wall and seeing what sticks.

His case against me was non-existent.
His case against E_K was weak at best.
His case against reborn does not even try to include everything that has happened before page 35.

The problem is, your playstyle at the moment is getting quite emotional rather than rational, so I'm trying to think as to whether you're sowing the seeds of discord or just genuinely playing...wierd.

However, for now I will

Vote: Xtoxm

, until you convince me otherwise or die.

I want to know what thinktank is thinking right now.

[Xtoxm]

If you knew anything about me, you'd know i'm town this game.

[reborn537]

You're not even playing the same game as us.

At least when LF went meta he qualified it.

[Xtoxm]

Think i'm gonna start ignoring him.

[Save The Dragons]

If you knew anything about me, you'd know i'm town this game.

Did you think this statement would do anything? Well, other than the fact that it makes me more confident my vote's in the right place.

Let me tell you something about me. I respond better to facts and arguments rather than meta. In fact, I'm not a huge fan of meta. And for the time being, since I've been gone, I'm kind of happy because I can play meta free. I have no intentions of looking up past games you've been in and seeing how you act because it's none of my concern. I want you to either rebutt my arguments or bitchslap me upside the head with facts that state that I was wrong. You clearly think I'm wrong. Prove it.

[Xtoxm]

Nah, just keep your vote on me, you might be scum anyway so it won't matter.

[Xtoxm]

Did you think this statement would do anything?

It was countering the way you spoke as though you knew me well.

[reborn537]

Wow...

[Save The Dragons]

I think it's time we killed the lovers, because it's pretty clear to me that one is scum.

Sorry, rockatansky.

[Xtoxm]

Townies, take note of who is trying to get the lovers lynched today.

[Rockatansky]

It's a little disconcerting that as soon as xtoxm takes the vote lead (I think? can we get a count?), the thread completely dies.

[Inspector Godot]

Xtoxm, this is looking really bad for you. Your case on Reborn is weak at best, and I'm agreeing that you look like the best lynch today. But just think, if you do turn up town then the scum should be easy to see.

[Xtoxm]

That comment dissapoints me IG. I didn't think you'd say that.

[RestFermata]

No, I would not like to elaborate. Sometimes elaborating helps the scum. If, (and probably when, the way things are going) the lovers are dead, I will then elaborate, because it will be no longer relevant.

Xtoxm, why are you fighting against your wagon so boldly now, when you suggested that your lover pair was the lynch of the day a few pages back? Have you found someone so scummy that you've changed your mind?

[Save The Dragons]

Townies, take note of who is trying to get the lovers lynched today.

thinktank, me, IG, reborn, LlamaFluff...anyone I'm missing?

I think we should put you up there on that list too, since you're the one who convinced me.

[reborn537]

Kloud

[Xtoxm]

Yes, i've changed my mind. And i've become more sure in my partner being town.

[Rockatansky]

Kloud

Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that.

[Xtoxm]

Your list is wrong by the way.

the list is Reborn, STD.

Thinktank has said it ages ago and he is protown and has proper reasoning, so he doesn't count.