Mini 660 - Star Trek: DS9 Mafia (Ruined = Over)

[ZONEACE]

There is no honor in random voting.

[ZONEACE]

SoH ghaj quvHa'ta' lIj qorDu'

You can not even properly bold.

[ZONEACE]

Whats up with Zone's gibberish?

It's Klingon. Between that and the previous post about honour, it's possibly a post restriction or possibly just a fluff-based way of participating.

its the latter.

[ZONEACE]

Oh, its also the worst attempt at bread crumbing EVER.

[ZONEACE]

Yeah, with the honor line, I thought he might have been implying he was Klingon.

I also have a good idea on what characters will be scum and which wont.

Ok, well dont give any of that away cause we don't to start giving the scum ideas about possible fake claims.

BTW

[ZONEACE]

Oh ok good, i didn't notice the join date and assumed that cause I've never seen you in a game before that you were new and might make a nub mistake.

[ZONEACE]

Yeah you know like hansel and gretel, leaving a path of bread crumbs (it was hansel and gretel right?) Well I'm leaving a path of bread crumbs to who i am for others to follow.

[ZONEACE]

SoH ghaj quvHa'ta' lIj qorDu'

Note to self: Get my dictionary when I'm at home on wednesday.

meh i used an online translator so It's possible I said, I am the cheese king of sunflowers.

[ZONEACE]

"Never make fun of a Ferengi's Vote Count! Rule of Acquisition number 31!"

Well aren't you just the cleverest mod there ever was.

And don't you forget it. ~ CDB

[ZONEACE]

SoH ghaj quvHa'ta' lIj qorDu'

Note to self: Get my dictionary when I'm at home on wednesday.

I looked on a translator and I belive it says something about dishonoring someone's family, but there was an extra word thrown in there or something,
according to the translator I used.

Ok, what I typed into the translator was "You have dishonored your family."


Funnily enough, when i put SoH ghaj quvHa'ta' lIj qorDu' back into the translator to switch it back to english, it doesn't recognize "quvHa'ta'" or "qorDu'" which are sort of the 2 key elements of the sentence. Thats just shoddy craftsmanship, which is also dishonorable. I'd challenge the petaQ that created it to honorable combat if I ever ran into him.

[ZONEACE]

To make you discuss something a bit more relevant than what someone said in klingon or whatever.

I think klingon is completely relevant in this mafia

Damn right I'm relevant.



oh and the person who hasn't posted should be prodded, IMMEDIATELY

prod please mod

[ZONEACE]

To make you discuss something a bit more relevant than what someone said in klingon or whatever.

I think klingon is completely relevant in this mafia

Klingon might be relevant, but what he said in Klingon isn't really

How would know if it's relevant or not. That sort brushing over things is odd. As someone else suggested, what if i was signaling or sending instructions to other people in the game (i wasn't), that would have been EXTREMELY relevant. deciding on a whim what is and is not relevant, especially this early in the game is NOT HELPFUL AND IN FACT GOES AGAINST TOWN INTERESTS.

[ZONEACE]

Use common sense. What could he

possibly

have to signal almost before the game really started?

The point is YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT I COULD POSSIBLY HAVE TO SIGNAL. You dont know the mechanics of this game for scum (or anyone) there could be daytime abilities for people, or maybe we have a scum group that is prevented from discussing at night. Dismissing it so quickly reads like buddying up to a townie to me and that's suspicious.

[ZONEACE]

@Timeater - Because Spice and Wolf is pwnage.

@Zoneace - Point in fact, unless it comes up later on, I'd completely dismiss it. Like I said, why bother going on something that was probably a joke?

OMG NUBTOWN is so frustrating.

[ZONEACE]

Also, if the mafia, whoever they may be, were not allowed to talk to each other at all, how would they get the hint to use a random Klingon phrase to communicate, especially if everyone can figure out what that phrase means?

It makes no sense. Occam's razor. The simplest solution is usually the right one.

IF ITS IN THE GOD DAMN ROLE PM THAT THEY CAN NOT COMMUNICATE AT NIGHT THEY WOULD LIKELY TRY TO FIND SOME COVERT WAY OF DOING IT DURING THE DAY OR ITS POSSIBLE THEY WERE GIVEN A WAY TO DO SO DURING THE DAY




SoH ghaj ghobe' quv


Just because you are incapable of understand a rather basic concept does not mean its false.

[ZONEACE]

http://www.mrklingon.org/

[ZONEACE]

ngeHta' didn't translate back to english

[ZONEACE]

its the only one i can find online that even remotely works that you dont have to pay for.

[ZONEACE]

Because I think he's just being nubtown. I could be wrong, but his posts, while scummy in their nature (meaning the actual positions taken) don't strike as coming from scum, instead they strike me as coming form inexperienced town who doesn't realize the things being suggested are scummy.

[ZONEACE]

I'm no mafia-newb, either.

Well, in that case

vote ebus

[ZONEACE]

i clearly meant to

vote Jebus

[ZONEACE]

I agree that Jebus comes over at scummy and one can say that could've been newbie mistakes, but as he/she says that he/she isn't a newbie...dunno

I still feel that Zone's "You have dishonored your family." is scummy.
Firstly because it was in klingon, secondly, it may have reference to his character of which i probably don't know about since i havent seen much of the series.
thirdly, it just sounds scummy to me.

that is just as scummy as saying, "Today is a good day to die", as in, not very.

Well, Today is a good day to die. Well atleast for jebus it's a good day to die.

[ZONEACE]

I posted 9 and a half hours ago, thats where I am.


Can we get on with this, I think we have enough to go on for a day one lynch or atleast for a forced claim.

I thought jebus why playing like nubtown, he said he's not a mafia nub, so that only leaves scum as a possibility for his behavior.


MORE VOTES PL0X


*insert klingon catchphrase that obviously makes me scummy*

[ZONEACE]

Her and I'm going to read this game ASAP

May you not be a petaQ.

[ZONEACE]

I'm new to mafia-scum games. I'm not new to the game of mafia. And voting someone because you don't like their play-style makes no sense.

@the bandwagon - Nobody, whether mafia or town, wants to be killed out of a game.

Scummy behavior=/=play style.

[ZONEACE]

this thread deserves the bloody death of jebus.

[ZONEACE]

For your sake i hope that wasn't some pathetic attempt at a daykill.


If it was, you truly are an idiot.

[ZONEACE]

except for the fact that if a member of star fleet had a daykill ability that would be a likely way of triggering it.

[ZONEACE]

it will if we all vote jebus and go to night.

[ZONEACE]

Hmm, My characters role/flavor matches that of the show, while vic fontaine as a tracker, doesn't as he's a hologram and is thus convined to areas with holoemitters.

[ZONEACE]

Like the holosuites at Quark’s bar?

exactly, and what good is a tracker if all he can do is stay in the holosuites at quarks bar? Nothing about my role indicates i have any business there, so how would you ever be able to track me?

[ZONEACE]

and that's where I call bullshit, there is no indication in the opening post flavor or my role PM flavor to suggest i would ever be in Quarks, let alone the holosuites.

[ZONEACE]

I'm not buying it. Having a tracker that is confined to the holosuites is useless i don't care HOW ADVANCED HE IS.


I know advocating the lynching of a claimed tracker isn't the most well liked thing, but the claim does not make sense.

[ZONEACE]

THAT STILL DOESN'T GIVE HIM THE ABILITY TO LEAVE THE HOLOSUITES. And jebus gave no indication that he can use station systems to eavesdrop (which would clearly be in the flavor if that was the case.

[ZONEACE]

HE DIDN'T MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT USING LISTENING DEVICES.

this sounds like a given safe claim that dind't have background, and jebus didn't research.

[ZONEACE]

OH MY GOD CAPS LOCKS JUST MAKES YOU GET ACROSS A POINT SO MUCH BETTER. (not)

Anyways, I'm content _for now_ to lay off Jebus and start thinking about other people. Zone, it sounds to me like a weaker townie support role that channelbird just threw in there because he was running out of real characters to setup roles for. Tracker can be useful, but is by no means a cop or a doc. It fits for me. Jebus, feel free to interject anytime.

running out of characters to set up roles for? I mean I'll admit, my role isn't exactly a regular, far from it, but it at least makes sense in the DS9 flavorverse.

[ZONEACE]

Does anyone have anything in their role or flavor that would indicate we ARE using real rooms and areas and physical things relating to the station??

My role PM indicates that the events are taking place on the station.

[ZONEACE]

MY POINT IS WHY THE FUCK WOULD WE ALL BE CONFINED TO THE HOLOSUITE AT NIGHT??? Does it say anywhere in your role PM that you're confined to the holosuites at night?

[ZONEACE]

@ZONE: MY POINT IS THAT NO AREAS ARE EVEN MENTIONED SO YOUR POINT IS NULL.

and for those of us who can communicate normally: it doesn't matter that Vic is only in the holosuites in the series, since no areas are even mentioned in any of our PMs (please speak up if yours is otherwise), it seems that no one is confined to any areas at all. In other words, no areas seem to actually exist in our current situation.

HE'S A HOLOGRAM. I DON'T CARE IF YOUR PM DOESN'T MENTION SPECIFIC PLACES THERE IS NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT HE IS NOT CONFINED TO THE HOLOSUITES AS SUCH.

huge enormous wormhole sized FOS

[ZONEACE]

Ugh i give up at making ou people understand what the fuck you're talking about.

[ZONEACE]

I disagree. I think that is it likely that delibird has intentionally picked the more obscure characters.

While I agree with this (based on knowledge of my own role) I still don't buy the vic romaine claim.

[ZONEACE]

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Martok

[ZONEACE]

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Martok

So instead of denying his claim, he just links to the wiki. To me this is a clear indicator that he has been trying to say he's Martok.

He asked who Martok was in relation to DS9, memory alpha is GREAT place to find ST info (we use it at work when we hve to write TNG surveys). There was no attempt (nor request) to admit or deny anything.

Right now, between Jebus and Zone, I would bet money that at least one of them is scum.

I would tooo, and its not me.

[ZONEACE]

Did you read the link i gave, it should be fairly obvious what martok would be if he's in this game.

[ZONEACE]

So that's 2 on me? ok, can we just make sure we don't quick lynch me. cause I hav eno problem full claiming if that time comes, and proving my claim is required.

[ZONEACE]

woops, that's 3 on me. I fail at looking at the VC before counting.

[ZONEACE]

i was bored.

[ZONEACE]

and you're wrong

[ZONEACE]

I have given solid analysis in this game so stop trying to claim i haven't helped the town you ass

[ZONEACE]

really, you can't take being called an ass?


wow.


just, wow.


I'm sorry, i'm take better care to not step on the itty bitty babies toes.

[ZONEACE]

Oh and to hell with this I'm tired of waiting for you people to do something.


I'm Martok, I'm a day-vig. My kill doesn't end the day.

oh and

I challenge you, jebus, to face me in honourable combat.

proof will come the next time out mod looks at the thread.

[ZONEACE]

your right, i should have killed you instead.

well mayeb tomorrow you'll get your wish

[ZONEACE]

Well, I was voting for Jebus based on his behaviour. Now his claim seems satisfying enough (but IGMEOY). Zoneace has popped up again for his anti-town play.

Vote: Zoneace

Being bored enough to start softclaiming from almost your first post doesn't seem very helpful. OTOH, you're going to get to claim for real very soon.

Yeah, you may want to try using the preview button before you post, it will help you avoid posts liek this that make you look silly.

[ZONEACE]

*EDWOP* I didn't see his attempted day-vig before posting. I'll wait and see what the outcome is before changing my vote. If this is a gambit and it fails, we know who the first one up against the wall will be...

yeah, waiting to unvote is a GREAT idea, just put me at -2 and allow 2 more people to jump on and lynch me before CDB shows up.


Good plan.

really, is it that hard to unvote and allow the kill to happen? Seriously, if it doesn't happne you can just as easily REVOTE

[ZONEACE]

Now you're starting to sound desperate as well as hostile. Hoping your scum power isn't too obviously not a day-vig?

are you fucking high??


that post doesn't even make sense.

[ZONEACE]

As far as I can tell its a guranteed kill. Basically the flavor of the ability is that because my expertise at hand to hand fighting I'll win the "honorable combat" and the other person will die, and then the day will just go on as normal from that point and we can still lynch someone.


as for the flavor of my role, its essentially that I'm disgusted by the fact that there are spies on board DS9 because there is no honor is being a spy because of this disgust I've set out to show them what true honor is, by killing the shit out of them.

[ZONEACE]

My main problem lies with pie. He has spent the entire game trying to manufacture suspicion aabout my "you have dishonored your family" without much substance to his attempts. He's just been repeating "thats scummy" but never saying why.

[ZONEACE]

down at the bottom, theres the drop down, you can isolate posts by member and thencheck there

[ZONEACE]

ok, its time to pressure, through votes, manu_ku and td

unvote vote td

id suggest we all pick one of these two and vote them cause their participation sucks (there are others who need to participate more but those two need the threat of death).

[ZONEACE]

Just a note, my posting may decrease over the next week or two because i sent my laptop in to get some repairs and will stuck using my boyfirends computer when he's not busy gaming and using the computer while i'm at work.

[ZONEACE]

I currently like Time's case against Liam. I want to add the quote below:

Wait, so would Martok be a town-aligned person, or scum aligned?

I say let's lynch all the non-DS9ers. I'm tired of silly questions like this.

Hoping this is a joke.

I just think it is suspicious how he brings it up, not making anything of it himself, almost hopping someone else will jump on it for him.

Yeah that one stuck out to me at first too, but i let it go thinking it was just me being paranoid. Clearly though it wasn't just me being paranoid.

[ZONEACE]

this argument is pointless and distracting.

could we maybe focus on something more useful than who was a guest star and who was a recurring character.

[ZONEACE]

We saw with the Jebus kill how lynching someone because you don't like their claim is worthless.

I didn't kill jebus JUST because i didn't like the claim. The claim coupled with the scummy behavior is what led me to kill Jebus.

[ZONEACE]

Well, from my understanding of it, I would highly doubt we have 100% changeling scum team, but it makes some since for one of them (the Godfather or some other "high level" scum role) to be a changeling...?

See I'm of a different mind, I'd expect someone like Weyoun to be a Godfather possible. Obviously its possible for a founder to be the GF though

[ZONEACE]

...already said it wasn't a big deal.. don't get your panties in a wad...

Its funny cause he's a dude.

[ZONEACE]

=

Alright... First, a bit of a request. You're citing my posts by the number I've made. This is completely not helpful for actually tracking down references. Please cite the actual post number so I can search it up if you're not going to do actual links.

you can view posts in isolation down at the bottom of the board there, with the drop down of the list of names. thats where the post numbers are coming from.

[ZONEACE]

vote light kun

lying is bad, i don't care if people don't like lynch all liars. I don't let liars slide. It just hurts the town too much.

[ZONEACE]

Lynch All Liars is also a way for the town to GET RID OF DISRUPTIVE DISTRACTING AND ULTIMATELY HARMFUL MEMBERS OF THE TOWN.

There's no reason to keep them around and frankly, for me its you or sekin.


also, just so theres no confusion, since i never unvoted

unvote vote light-kun

Frankly, if you are a townie i'd be fine with that, because even thought we'd be down 3 townies tomorrow, 2 of them would have been distractions.

[ZONEACE]

Umm, I'd say do something like a page a post or something unless thats still ridiculously long for each post.

[ZONEACE]

you were gonna protect liam???????


AM i the ONLY that is confused as to why I wouldn't be the protection target, I'm a confirmed power role. Unless you think i'm some sort of day SK. which would need some explaining since I've confirmed myself, my role and my ability as much as was possible.

[ZONEACE]

yeah fuck this, i posted that last post before the last 5 happened.

vote sekin

if you're the doctor, you're an idiot. if you're not, you're an idiot.

[ZONEACE]

unvote vote sekjin

just in case

[ZONEACE]

she lynched herself thats it she's done its twilight. and why would you be the protection target zone, you've already used your power. :/

At what point in time did I EVER indicate it was a onetime use?

[ZONEACE]

Well claim it right now if thats the case. Otherwise dont refute it. Other people may need that protection. Dont

imply

that your power is more than a one-shot, just say it. A unlimited day-vig in a minitheme is fucking

OP

sir.

I can use it once per day. how it that ANY DIFFERENT than a regular vig besides it being used during the day? seriously, wtf?



and how FUCKING HARD IS IT TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMEONE NAMED LIAM AND SOMEONE NAMED ZONEACE??????????????



I think you are CLEARLY, full of shit.

[ZONEACE]

Doesn't matter, Sekinj is lynched, so...yeah...

*Ahem*

So, twilight... we wait until mod tells us who Sekinj is, and then we can resume examining me before moving onto someone interesting...

Oh, and I just realized something... Could Sekinj's role be like a jailkeeper... he indicates that he pretty much kidnaps someone to keep them safe for a night...

Grr.. wish I thought of that sooner...

or that instead of being an idiot he would have, you know, CLAIMED LIKE A REAL FREAKING PERSON AND NOT SELF VOTED?