Mini Theme 2158: Cards of Destiny Mafia Game Over

[April Ludgate]

FL killed Amy btw, so your 3P scim theory was wtong.

This is not true, making sure that’s known.

[April Ludgate]

Wrong account, but whatever

[April Ludgate]

I got that mixed up, FL killed Pooky, Tris targeted and killed Amy.

Nope. Tris was killing Kaname, which was the right call because of what happened here. N3 no killed.

Yeah, this game was way too town sided.

And my Roleblock/Willbooster thing was cool, but it really limited my double voting potential, tbh.

I had a 1-shot strongman as well, that in the right situation could have confirmed me, but meh, you guys had way too many ways of investigating of us, getting confirmed as town, and us getting revealed, that this was completely just a fuck around game.

Fun, though.

[April Ludgate]

Lol, I no killed last night.

VOTE: Flavor Leaf
VOTE: Flavor Leaf

I was hoping Gamma Emerald would get revealed as town, because he was already getting confirmed because I roleblocked there, while hoping BEF commuted JJH.

I was gonna kill Nancy tonight, then do my best in a BEF/Hayasaka/FL world.

But yeah, this game was fun, but idk. I don’t necessarily feel it was too balanced.

You should have under NO circumstances killed KD last night. Gamma was already 99.9999 town after Amy/Tris flips due to his town devil claim.

I already hammered you dude.

I didn’t kill Kaname Date. I already said that.

[April Ludgate]

I no killed hoping BEF day commuted JJH, and Gamma was getting roleblocked.

[April Ludgate]

Nancy, not sure what you think my "3p scum theory" was but it was more of a logic based direction of play than a theory. Effectively, the game after FL claimed jester was likely to be either a 2 man scum team plus FL as a 3p jester, or a 3 man scum team including FL. Since FL claimed jester that would want murdering on D4, I figured we could ignore him completely and then vote him out on day 4. Simple stuff. Don't ever let FL have backsies

Yeah, i went for a plan specifically to make sure I could backsies at your expense, and I feel like it would have worked if the right circumstances happened.

I saw the town sided ness Day 1 here, you guys have so much power, and night wise, we really didn’t have anything, and the “I do” mechanic tris had while powerful and could have brought a win at some point, is incredibly suspicious.

Nice idea, fun game, i liked the challenge, but it was town sided.

[April Ludgate]

FL killed Amy btw, so your 3P scim theory was wtong.

This is not true, making sure that’s known.

Oh so jjh was right and you really were 3P scum? But why no 2nd kill N1 then? My coroner did not say Tris killed Pooky, so maybe you both targeted Pooky then but you submitted your kill first?

I killed Pookey Night 1.
Tris killed KD night 2, but got redirected by Ampharos.

I no killed last night.

[April Ludgate]

I would never have let you take back a jester claim

You wouldn’t have had the opportunity to do so in the plan that didn’t take effect. I wouldn’t have unclaimed jester until after you were de, but BEF didn’t day commute you and KD died when I no killed, so it effectively just shattered the very thing.

I got a little salty real early realizing the uphill battle of this game.

[April Ludgate]

I had explicitly resolved to fade you today no matter whether you said you wanted it or not

I mean, I was setting you up as well, in the circumstances I needed, i personally don’t think it would have mattered.

You played well, but I played around you the whole game and had you been commuted, and a no kill went, you likely would have been the fade by no fault of your own.

[April Ludgate]

There were no other possible options for me, it just was what it was.

[April Ludgate]

Oh, I actually am untargetable if my hide succeeds

Are you kidding me...

Yeah, this game was a town win before it began.

[April Ludgate]

TA Coroner, conf townie cop, tracker/gladiator, redirector, self redirector, alignment revealer, JJH untargetable


Like...ugh, seriously.

[April Ludgate]

I got one strong man shot, and the double vote, tris’s sketch role, and then a one shot negator with DND.

I just don’t understand

[April Ludgate]

I'll give you that your plan could conceivably have worked, and you definitely maneuvered around me successfully to some degree

Maybe could have done with putting in more effort than I did but my reads were still as accurate as ever and people still followed me on DnD even without me saying anything lmao

Yeah, Tris vote on DnD actually triggered me really hard. I think that was incredibly poor timing, while I understand the idea, I think it solidified DnD’s death since I was around and had already been suspicious of DND. I guess I could have defended DND, but that would have looked bad a well.

[April Ludgate]

I think I played as well as I could considering.

Medium claim was rough, but i had to cover, lol. I was ready in fuck it mode by then.

I just wanna be town, guys

[April Ludgate]

FL killed Amy btw, so your 3P scim theory was wtong.

This is not true, making sure that’s known.

Oh so jjh was right and you really were 3P scum? But why no 2nd kill N1 then? My coroner did not say Tris killed Pooky, so maybe you both targeted Pooky then but you submitted your kill first?

I killed Pookey Night 1.
Tris killed KD night 2, but got redirected by Ampharos.

I no killed last night.

You actually might have had a chance had you either made both kills or reversed it, because you guys had to know that Amy would have 100% used her even night NA on her, so why didn’t you guys consider she could be even rnight tracker? Tris should not have made the kill because of that.

How were we supposed to know she was a redirector.

I honestly wouldn’t have cared if Tris got tracked there, the redirect screwed us over. KD dying would have been great in that scenario, because I was working Ampharos pretty hard all game.

[April Ludgate]

I was warlocking Nancy and Ampharos incredibly successfully, I feel, and setup kind of just made it so I couldn’t keep anything like that due to the amount of people being able to be confirmed, i did my damndest, but JJH called me ou yesterday, but like, I had to do stuff like that, or it was done.

[April Ludgate]

I originally was going to kill Nancy last night, which I talk about in the scum thread, because of her possibility of reTA’ing me, or coroner on Pooky.

Like there was really nothing I could do most of the time.

[April Ludgate]

I think I played as well as I could considering.

Medium claim was rough, but i had to cover, lol. I was ready in fuck it mode by then.

I just wanna be town, guys

It started as a pretty good claim if you ask me, then you kept changing bits
then you claimed jester so I stopped caring

Yeah, once Tris was obviously going down, there was nothing I could do. The only chance we had really was Tris getting that third I Do from Hayasaka, and we win off a MYLO No Fade play double kill, but with ol he roleblocks and redirects, even that was unlikely.

[April Ludgate]

Maria, please don’t ever deviate so flagrantly from the standard role names + utilities like you did here, it makes things really hard to parse

@Gamma did you vig KD? We still don’t know why he died.

They died because they had a Suicide condition in their role.

[April Ludgate]

kinda sad you killed me I think we had a good soul connection FL

You were just too townie.

[April Ludgate]

I actually specifically state in the Mafia PT about though being wrong for the wrong reasons, if that makes sense, in regards to NM.

[April Ludgate]

Yeah, I do scummy things in hindsight as scum, but that gives leeway, i do scummy things as town, so if i don’t as scum, it’s super obvious. I’m super consistent a lot of times as scum, so I have to actively make sure i get less consistent.

And chopping at gamestate manipulation is what I abuse a lot of times as scum.

But this game was highly irregular scum game by me. I just did fuck all