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Post Post #37 (isolation #0) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:42 am

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In post 34, Dunnstral wrote:Image

Like this, but drawn better
I thought you meant more like this (but done better)

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Post Post #39 (isolation #1) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:45 am

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In post 38, Nexus wrote:why does ginngie get to be in the logo
It looked familiar as I was doing it, but I couldn't place it. Now I feel dumb.
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Post Post #42 (isolation #2) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:09 am

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Post Post #49 (isolation #3) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:26 am

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There just aren't that many options for non-violent mafia imagery. Suits and Fedora's are about it. Could try and use some hard boiled imagery instead I guess. Not really sure what that gets you outside of a magnifying glass though.

Edit: Or not use any at all or something original of course, but that's for talented people.
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Post Post #52 (isolation #4) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:38 am

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Should be able to recolour or add a background for different skins. I think the knife and blood is the bigger issue.
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Post Post #54 (isolation #5) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:49 am

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In post 53, Ythan wrote:We didn't drop the noose because it was violent, lest we forget.

Complaints about the gun in the old header were one of the reasons it was changed to something a lot more subtle.
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Post Post #63 (isolation #6) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:35 am

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In post 62, TDC wrote:please don't combine a serif and a sans-serif
I was having trouble identifying what was bothering me about the different fonts, and this is it.
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Post Post #76 (isolation #7) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:08 am

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In post 73, northsidegal wrote:i had the idea to make the f into a knife and the i look like a magnifying glass but haven't found a way to make it look good yet, if that's even a good idea
I think brainstorming should just be about throwing as much at the wall as you can and worrying about serious critiques after you've done that.
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Post Post #98 (isolation #8) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:30 pm

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I think that red looks really bad on the sepia brown.
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Post Post #100 (isolation #9) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:33 pm

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I don't think the same logo was used in sepia, was it?
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Post Post #112 (isolation #10) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:46 pm

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Could play with the idea of 1 letter 'hiding' among the others somehow? Use of negative space maybe.
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Post Post #118 (isolation #11) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:54 pm

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Could use distorted letters to give the impression of a magnifying glass?

Only other detective imagery I can think of are the boards with string, and I can't think of a way to make that work.
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Post Post #120 (isolation #12) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:03 pm

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In post 119, northsidegal wrote:
In post 118, chamber wrote:Could use distorted letters to give the impression of a magnifying glass?
unfortunately that sounds a bit above my skill level when it comes to image manipulation, although if someone could make it work it sounds interesting
You saw the height of my skill earlier, above mine as well. I'm just trying to throw ideas out there without editing.
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Post Post #122 (isolation #13) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:08 pm

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In post 121, shaft.ed wrote:if you have to do specific logos for specific skins
I think the hope is to have a single logo that is just colour shifted.
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Post Post #134 (isolation #14) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:50 pm

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Post Post #140 (isolation #15) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:08 pm

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In post 138, Dunnstral wrote:
I like the concept. What if the i was wearing a small tie and cartoon sweating a little, as if under pressure?
This is the limit of my ability and is only intended for inspiration. With that said, I like how clean it is without additional details.
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Post Post #145 (isolation #16) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:33 pm

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In post 143, xRECKONERx wrote:idk if i like the tie, it doesn't have much apparent symbolism to me

also i would really rather drop the tagline from the site altogether. "a mob has formed" is still pretty, well, problematic to me
Maybe we should start spitballing other possible taglines. I do think some of the logos look better with one than without.
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Post Post #152 (isolation #17) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:55 pm

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I think it's ok to hold official things and things at the top of every page to a higher standard than things in individual games. One reason why I've been trying to avoid violent imagery and don't really like NSG's blood splatter despite liking her font more than shaft.ed's. The font difference could be a product of size.

Edit: Reck's slash is abstract enough to be fine though imo.
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Post Post #159 (isolation #18) » Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:22 am

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In post 158, shaft.ed wrote:I also don't have access to the text, so it's a low quality printscreen of web generated version for mocking up
Is it a free commercial license?
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Post Post #169 (isolation #19) » Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:22 am

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Her magnifying glass is much better (unsurprisingly). I'm not sure I'm a fan of the font, but I think I may have just become overly attached to art deco fonts. Probably need to look away from this for a while and come back with new eyes.
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Post Post #178 (isolation #20) » Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:28 pm

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In post 167, northsidegal wrote:and a black text version

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I might try making all of the I that's within the magnifying glass red.
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Post Post #182 (isolation #21) » Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:38 pm

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In post 181, Dunnstral wrote:I didn't understand that the red dot stood for mafia until now
Was always my intent. I may have conveyed it poorly.
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Post Post #186 (isolation #22) » Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:52 pm

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I like the whole thing better, but not all the letters, ruins the symbolism.
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Post Post #199 (isolation #23) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:59 am

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In post 198, shaft.ed wrote:the text and magnifying glass being the same color will decrease legibility when it is small
Good point. Knowing what it already says makes it easier to fill in.
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Post Post #218 (isolation #24) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:24 pm

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In post 215, northsidegal wrote:thought i'd try another variation of the negative space design

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Liked White&White more than White&Red
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Post Post #222 (isolation #25) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:52 pm

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why on earth is that image so large.
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Post Post #236 (isolation #26) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:33 am

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I think the magnifying glass is about as complex as you want to go. It might be too much, if anything.
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Post Post #240 (isolation #27) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:43 am

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In post 237, Dunnstral wrote:I really like the magnifying glass; I don't think it's too complex, especially if it looks simplistic.

What are people's thoughts on the m being capitalized or lowercase?
The issue isn't the complexity of the shape of the magnifying glass itself, which hits a good note. It's with it being overlayed on the text. It definitely increases the clutter/hurts the legibility.
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Post Post #242 (isolation #28) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:44 am

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Anyway, I don't dislike it, I just think brainstorming additional ideas is still good, and that those shouldn't be focused on designs that are more complex.
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Post Post #262 (isolation #29) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:42 pm

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Changing the color slightly should be trivial if its needed to make the logo work.
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Post Post #265 (isolation #30) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:05 pm

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In post 264, caledfwitch wrote:what color suggestions do you have then? maybe i could do some palette swaps
Sorry, I meant of the mafBlack skin. If its background color needs to change slightly to make a logo work more consistently across all the skins or etc.
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Post Post #270 (isolation #31) » Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:06 am

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In post 268, Black Ranger wrote:
In post 231, Dunnstral wrote:That ruins it, the i is supposed to be a mafia, with the dot being the head
Yes I realized that after comparing it to the second one, but I also thought it would be hard for randos on the street to understand it. I was thinking of something that would make for a better t-shirt.
a t-shirt can always have a more elaborate design.
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Post Post #288 (isolation #32) » Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:39 am

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In post 287, Xtoxm wrote:i actually dont care for the objects i think just the text with some coloring would be a fine logo
I think the magnifying glass logo is the best one so far, but it's also the one that's seen the most iterations. I'm not good enough to do it myself, but if those that are did more iterations of some of the other designs I think it would be a more even comparison.
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Post Post #295 (isolation #33) » Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:21 pm

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In post 294, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 292, caledfwitch wrote:ok not to start discourse in this thread but it's really peeved me how some people post only to criticize designs (made for FREE with a VOLUNTEER'S time and effort) with no constructive suggestions at all. if you want a logo designed exactly to your specifications you can either 1. make it yourself or 2. HIRE a designer to make it for you, not neg your peers just because some small aspect of it isn't perfect
If you don't want criticism, pm your design to mith instead of posting it in the brainstorming thread
Their complaint wasn't against criticism, it was about a lack of constructive criticism. "x is bad" vs "maybe try y", or actually trying y yourself.
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Post Post #297 (isolation #34) » Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:34 pm

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In post 296, Dunnstral wrote:I'd prefer to hear everyone's opinions

You don't need to be a graphic designer to say you don't like something
If the complaint is about the colour of something, its easy to try out different colours yourself. Not putting in any effort is disrespecting the effort of those that are.
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Post Post #307 (isolation #35) » Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:14 am

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In post 303, shaft.ed wrote:i dont think a shadow will work because
1) it muddies the legibility especially at zoomed out levels
2) if you're going to start adding in light effect, then you kinda have to also account for the action of the lens in the magnifying glass, which will be super complication
I actually had a lensing effect in my original one, don't think anyone noticed because it was too subtle, but being more aggressive with the refractive index made it unreadable.
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Post Post #319 (isolation #36) » Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:27 pm

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Cutting it off might work ok in instances where there is a natural boundary (like the top of the site banner) but its likely to be used in other places, as listed in the OP.

Looking at amazons logo really makes me want to try to make the magnifying glass one less cluttered.

Edit: like making the F wrap around the top of the glass and the a tuck under it to the right. That would take custom character work though.
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Post Post #322 (isolation #37) » Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:59 pm

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In post 319, chamber wrote:Edit: like making the F wrap around the top of the glass and the a tuck under it to the right. That would take custom character work though.

Spent a while playing with this idea and it is unworkable even as a concept at my skill level.
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Post Post #333 (isolation #38) » Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:52 am

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Post Post #335 (isolation #39) » Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:14 am

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In post 334, Bingle wrote:That reminds me of the text in silent movies, and I’m a little in love with that idea.
That was more or less the inspiration, yes.
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Post Post #337 (isolation #40) » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:27 am

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I'm not actually a fan of how it looks or how it would translate to other icons. I just try to throw something together when I have an idea and as long as its not a complete disaster, post it.
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