SSW III: Game over

[Lord Gurgi]

Woo!

Vote: Empking

Die scum die.

[Lord Gurgi]

I can't refute SpyreX's genius reasoning, I like my pelt, furry and warm.

Unvote; Vote: Porkens

Let's get this day rolling.

[Lord Gurgi]

Then why didn't it work for you, huh? HUH?!

Pro Scumhunting.

[Lord Gurgi]

Then why didn't it work for you, huh? HUH?!

Because he doesn't have opposable thumbs. Obv pro-wolf tell.

More votes on Lord plz

Bureaucrat.

[Lord Gurgi]

Then why didn't it work for you, huh? HUH?!

Because he doesn't have opposable thumbs. Obv pro-wolf tell.

More votes on Lord plz

Bureaucrat.

See? Now he is calling people names.

[Witty Comeback]

[Lord Gurgi]

Vote porkens

It works for me, I think you might have the box that says Disable BBCode in this post checked.

[Lord Gurgi]

I did that too. And first.

[Lord Gurgi]

Unvote; Vote: Wall-E

L-1 Let's get this rolling. I'll learn not to sleep next time also.

[Lord Gurgi]

Unvote; Vote: Wall-E

L-1 Let's get this rolling. I'll learn not to sleep next time also.

Not sleep? *gasp*

I got 14 hours of sleep last night. <3

[Lord Gurgi]

Unvote; Vote: Wall-E

L-1 Let's get this rolling. I'll learn not to sleep next time also.

Not sleep? *gasp*

I got 14 hours of sleep last night. <3

...that's hot.

[Lord Gurgi]

<3 Skruffs.

Anyway, I am moderately suspicious of BM, especially if Mayhem flips scum.

Let there be night!

[Lord Gurgi]

Pro-Tip: No insulting people.

[Lord Gurgi]

Vote: Porkens

For the worst reasoning I have ever seen (ie: None).

[Lord Gurgi]

Only a double post BM? That's suspicious.

Anyway, Porkens hasn't defended himself, and Spyrex concerning your reasoning for the Donkey vote. The only other vote than donkey's on Porkens is mine. I would think that might invalidate that point and makes me slightly suspicious of you.

[Lord Gurgi]

Only a double post BM? That's suspicious.

Anyway, Porkens hasn't defended himself, and Spyrex concerning your reasoning for the Donkey vote. The only other vote than donkey's on Porkens is mine. I would think that might invalidate that point and makes me slightly suspicious of you.

rofl. I'm sorry. I wasnt lurking, i was just distracted by the tv! honest!

who is the rest of this post directed at?

BM

A bit of everyone. Porkens has not defended himself, and SpyreX has weak logic.

[Lord Gurgi]

Porkens has not defended himself

I took back my Wall-E vote because Sleepy pointed out that I had missread his refutation of Wall-E's claim.

As I said before, I had no reason or obligation to regurgitate everything that y'all had already said about M4yhem. I thought it was a good lynch based on what the town had said and the panic in M4yhems defenses, so I voted for him.

So, as I said before, I am voting you. I don't think that "unvote, vote" posts help the town at all.

[Lord Gurgi]

...Why?

[Lord Gurgi]

I must say I don't see the case on donkey really. Also this single posting by BM is disturbing.

[Lord Gurgi]

I'm against lynching Wall-E even if

s

he is confused. There are other people who look scummy and are being ignored. Porkens makes sense

even if it is WIFOM

Fixed

[Lord Gurgi]

WIFOM[/url]

Vote count

(14 players alive = 8 to lynch before deadline)
(5) Wall-E – SpyreX, cerebus3, Porkens, Cass, Septia
(4) Porkens – Lord Gurgi, donkeyz12212, raider8169, Wall-E
(2) CoheedCambria09 – farside22, Grimmy
(1) Septia – Empking
(1) Empking – Battle Mage

Not voting:

CoheedCambria09

Deadline:

Sunday 3 August 1:00 AM (GMT -5 according to forum clock)

[Lord Gurgi]

what is WIFOM?

[Lord Gurgi]

Sorry, I don't quite get something here; even if what is WIFOM?

Read it more carefuly.

I have had a new player VERBATIM say that, and they were asking about what WIFOM is. It would have been more clear if you had said something like.

Sorry, I don't see what I have done that is WIFOM.

[Lord Gurgi]

Sorry LG, just had quite a day of work, I didn't mean to sound snappy, I see now that you were just trying to help.

I was playing with the sentence structure:

"Even if

it

is WIFOM."
"Even if

what

is WIFOM?"

As to the origional comment;

I'm against lynching Wall-E even if she is confused. There are other people who look scummy and are being ignored. Porkens makes sense even if it is WIFOM

(let me start by saying I don't think I'm being ignored)

I've thought this over today, and I must agree that it makes more sense to look at other options/scummy players than to risk loosing a claimed power-role who's acting, at worst, only scum-like.

Yes, I know that I am one of those other options. I'll take another look at the situation and post again tonight. So, until then:

Unvote: Wall-E

Nah, it's probably my fault for pushing the issue.

Also

that said, let's lynch Porkens.

BM, why aren't you talking so much it gets near spam?

[Lord Gurgi]

right because when I question someone its scummy?

No, because you're pardoning him before he answers. That is scummy.

[Lord Gurgi]

Verbatim
–adverb
1. in exactly the same words; word for word: to repeat something verbatim.

Yay Dictionary.com

[Lord Gurgi]

Oh I getcha!

2) I win if the adversaries to our group are destroyed.

Ummm, that's different than mine.

Unvote; Vote Wall-E

[Lord Gurgi]

Edit: I realise that could be paraphrased, but group and village are not synonymous.

[Lord Gurgi]

What would you like to hear from me about exactly? SpyreX just found your scum for you.

All those who aren't voting Wall-E: Why? Now is the time to screw the scum's night actions and lynch this guy.

[Lord Gurgi]

Well I stand by my vote of Wall-E guy was as scummy as heck. But I have no clue who is scum now, so I'm going to hold my vote for now. I am suspicious of people who end the day not voting for anyone so I'll reread and check.

[Lord Gurgi]

So, upon my checking. I found something interesting:

Septia: Not-voting at the end of D1, was on the Wall-E wagon.

Porkens: On the M4yhem wagon, not-voting at the end of D2.

Vote: Porkens

for reasons stated yesterday and not voting anyone when he was the #2 wagon.

[Lord Gurgi]

Just checking in, Porkens is still my choice for the lynch, waiting for the reread from our wonderful replacer.

[Lord Gurgi]

So, upon my checking. I found something interesting:

Septia: Not-voting at the end of D1, was on the Wall-E wagon.

Septia's first post was #174, he came in just in the nick of time to avoid being replaced. That was one of the last posts in day 1, I believe.

I'm not going to excuse someone of suspicion because they didn't know the game had started.

Well I stand by my vote of Wall-E guy was as scummy as heck.

Suspicious of someone because they were on the Wall-E wagon, when you yourself said that Wall-E was suspicious as heck? Wha?

I'm sorry, but since when does being on the same wagon as me exclude you from suspicon? Wall-E got his win condition and his role WRONG. How can you NOT lynch him for that?

I am suspicious of people who end the day not voting for anyone s ...

Why? You may have somewhat of a point, but people normally hold off votes because they aren't sure who to vote rather than trying to avoid being suspicious for dropping the hammer or similar :/

This is Swift Speed, there is no advantage AT ALL to not voting someone, especially D1 when we were trying for a speed lynch.

I'm against lynching Wall-E even if she is confused. There are other people who look scummy and are being ignored. Porkens makes sense even if it is WIFOM

Why take the WIFOM chance of voting Porkens if you think Wall-E is scummy as heck?

Umm, this is Farside.

[Lord Gurgi]

hmm... How was his win condition wrong Lord Gurgi? It matches up to mine.

Wait, what? What he said matches up with your win condition?

I want gurgi to respond before I explain further, but yes.

I win if the adversaries to our group are destroyed.

It would seem that this is BADLY paraphrased. If he had said 'I win if the adversaries to the village are destroyed.' I would have no problem at all, but what he said made me think we'd managed to get a scum to give the wrong win condition.

[Lord Gurgi]

Why is village so important?

Group=Scum. Village =Town.

[Lord Gurgi]

unvote, vote: Lord Gurgi

I'm... Sorry?

[Lord Gurgi]

So, is this going to become a no lynch or do we have a descent suspect to lynch?

No it's not, the way it's going, it's Coheed that's going to die at deadline.

[Lord Gurgi]

So, is this going to become a no lynch or do we have a descent suspect to lynch?

Do you have a desent suspect? Out of all the cases out there you have no opinion?

Septia appears to be voting for Coheed.

[Lord Gurgi]

I'm ready to claim, and in favor of it, because my role is making me think something is fishy.

I am never willing to call anyone confirmed. But I would like some input from Porkens.

If I could move myself up the list for claiming, that would be appreciated. Further, since Porkens is so favorably looked upon, shouldn't he make the list?

[Lord Gurgi]

I'll claim now, since we should get moving. My role: she-wolf. I'm not sure if it's my cub that's dead, or SpyreX, or if he's lying, but his role claim is right, if he's scum he probably took it from one of the older games. That's why I wanted to claim, because I'm not sure how likely this is. I believe the correct term for my role is 'lovestruck'.

[Lord Gurgi]

Miller perhaps?

Vote count

(10 players alive = 6 to lynch before deadline)
(2) donkeyz12212 – farside22, SpyreX
(1) farside22 – Cass
(1) raider8169 – cerebus3

Not voting:

donkeyz12212, Jebus, Lord Gurgi, Porkens, raider8169, Septia

Deadline:

Saturday 9 August 2:00 PM (GMT -5 according to forum clock)

[Lord Gurgi]

I would have jumped on and say SpyreX is scum right now but given the fact he suggests that we mass claim, i just don't know. Seems very pro-town as a result.

If I had to go on hunch,

I

vote: Lord Gurgi

and based on information that I can rule out.

Is it too much to ask for this fabled reasoning?

[Lord Gurgi]

Now, back to the next huge WTF:

Farside, Gurgi and Septia, spyrex are probably scum i'm positive.
These 4 top my suspicion list based on process of elimination.
Can someone explain why the need to claim?

You're saying process of elimination. You've "claimed" cop. This would mean either you've gotten results on us (which isn't, of course, true) or somehow you had 6 investigations or you're just, well, I dont know.

Please give your list.

I'm off to bed all.

Nonsense, all this requires is that out of 16 players 5 are anti-town, obv since we are scum he doesn't need to claim, on top of this he's probably positive.

This post is not helpful, but I am annoyed by this stratagem for scum hunting.

[Lord Gurgi]

I'm just going to

Vote: Donkeyz12212

for good measure.

[Lord Gurgi]

Donkey, can you explain why you're clearing someone because they seem like town? I'm now thinking that donkey and Porkens are scum. Especially considering when it was questioned he dropped the clearing Porkens as well as the suspicion of me. Which he was

positive

about before.

Let's hear something from Cass.

[Lord Gurgi]

Cass, why are you voting for Farside still?

[Lord Gurgi]

You have no alignment.... What the heck...

[Lord Gurgi]

I had never thought of that, how does the princess work anyway?

[Lord Gurgi]

My bulletproof is lost when mafia makes their first attempt to kill me. So it'll take 2 nights to kill me essentially.

Basically I have a second life.

Which at this point makes me wary about Raider's claim since he says he is a protector but since I have protection already for one night, why is there a need for a protector you know?

Oh well.

Did you just claim Alpha Wolf?

[Lord Gurgi]

Cerebus, why do you wholly omit Porkens, you also Cass.

[Lord Gurgi]

Also this scenario:

What do we learn if we lynch Jebus instead of myself instead?

If he turns scum, does that mean I am less likely to be scum? Wouldnt that as a result clear both myself and raider?

See SpyreX's prior logic that you three could be coming up with a scheme where one of you "can't" be scum. There is no way to be cleared without being dead.

[Lord Gurgi]

I also have a roleblock ability if it makes any difference btw.

I don't know how I will be able to put it to use honestly as I don't know the roles. But my 4 skills -

Roleblock, Rolecop, Watch, Track and my 1x Bullet proof vest.

I used Watch N2. Cop N3. So i was going to use my Track tonight.

Would you care to explain why you keep adding clarifications to your role?

[Lord Gurgi]

Do you want to add Vig to that now or wait till you're at L-1 again?

Vig is not next, next he has a recruiting mason ability.

[Lord Gurgi]

He's Balrog and Balrog has lots and lots of powers.

Woo for in game trolling. Anyway, for those who believe donkey, how do you rationalize his latest power?

[Lord Gurgi]

That's some FINE solidarity you got goin on there.

And I wouldnt because?

You're buddying up with people whom you have been accused of being buddies with. Do you not see the problem there?

[Lord Gurgi]

Sweet. Any more new neat roles? I like it.

You're scum. Raider is scum. Easy as pie.

This train havn't breaks.

I endorse this product and/or service.

Vote count

(10 players alive = 6 to lynch before deadline)
(4) donkeyz12212 – SpyreX, Jebus, Lord Gurgi, Porkens
(1) raider8169 – farside22
(1) Jebus – donkeyz12212

Not voting:

Cass, cerebus3, raider8169, Septia

Deadline:

Saturday 9 August 2:00 PM (GMT -5 according to forum clock)

[Lord Gurgi]

I'm going to say that I would rather be a mod confirmed innocent than a triple voter. Or possibly Sane Omnicop. One of the two anyway. Other than that, this is just an activity post.

[Lord Gurgi]

Well fine sure, but then why not just make me kingmaker?

[Lord Gurgi]

Was that the super hammer?

[Lord Gurgi]

I think we should also wait for Farside to check in.

[Lord Gurgi]

Cass, you're insane, Mod you might want to check the math.

Cass, this guy keeps pulling new powers out of his nether regions, and it's either some of the most horrible play I've ever seen as town, or some of the most horrible play I've ever seen as scum. So far I'm thinking that he's trying to make himself as horrible to lynch on the slight chance he isn't lying as he can.

[Lord Gurgi]

Process of elimination? She was the only one left to claim if I remember correctly.

Cass, the reason that I am refusing to consider your logic is that it is formulated on the foundation of SpyreX and myself being scum. Not formulated based on evidence then coming to that conclusion.

Also, I am going to spell this out once and for all.

Cass is only a confirmed mason, not confirmed pro-town

. I can't say why Cass is taking this as a reason to go insane.

Vote count

(10 players alive = 6 to lynch before deadline)
(4) donkeyz12212 –SpyreX, Jebus, Lord Gurgi, Porkens
(2) Jebus – donkeyz12212, Cass
(1) raider8169 – farside22

Not voting:

cerebus3, raider8169, Septia

Deadline:

Saturday 9 August 2:00 PM (GMT -5 according to forum clock)

[Lord Gurgi]

Sigh Cass, do YOU have any bread crumbing evidence? Yeah, not having it makes no difference. Also, your entire prediction earlier is buckets of WIFOM, and by saying it all you're doing is helping scum.

Yes, I DO have evidence, the guy keeps getting new powers. "I'm a JOAT, oh by the way I'm bulletproof, oh by the way I can roleblock, oh by the way there are penalties when I claim, oh by the way I'm alpha wolf, oh by the way I dunno where the penalties have gone."

Where are these mythical penalties donkey? And why is there only a penalty when you specifically claim it, not when you obviously go around it to say what you are?

Cass, I can't point out where your logic goes wrong, because there isn't any to begin with, you accuse us of being scum because you don't buy our claim, and yet on the next page you accuse me of lying because SpyreX was bread crumbing and I wasn't. That's a blatant conflict.

Consider this from the mod's perspective, do you tell the masons that there are two other town roles? Why not after all, the only downside is the possibility of

4 connected, confirmed, pro-town roles.

Can you come up with a single feasible reason that you would be told of the existence of the She-wolf(s)?

[Lord Gurgi]

Points for avoiding all my other questions Cass.

Cerebus: The thing is that if me and SpyreX had kicked it first, then one of those two would have died also, the way it is, there's only a 50% of Cass dying if the scum kills one of SpyreX and myself (Assuming that all claims are true). However given Cass' wonderful prediction, there is a chance that the scum will do something else to cause chaos.

[Lord Gurgi]

Donkey you stated this:

My tracking ability is gone, as well as my rolecop ability.

The only thing I have left is my Watch ability.

And my 1x bulletproof vest.

Then said you tracked Cerebus. Now I really think you are making things up at this point if you can't keep your story straight.

Is this proof Cass? Or is he just 'confused' so that he can't keep his story straight?

[Lord Gurgi]

You've also confused the nights in which these things occur. That many mistakes is not pure confusion.

[Lord Gurgi]

She said I was not human. And that logic is easily derailed by any number of factors, including you being non-human scum.

[Lord Gurgi]

Is that supposed to make me think you're town? It's not like YOU HAVE TO RESPOND THIS SECOND BECAUSE WE KNOW YOU'RE THERE. You can think things through and try not to make so many mistakes.

[Lord Gurgi]

yes farside, I have a one shot bulletproof. the first attempt by maf to kill me will not work. I assume though maf wont try to kill me anyways so its really redundant.


And I agree with voting Septia over Jebus in order to follow through with the plan you said.

unvote: vote Septia

That was opportunistic, if you thought Septia was scum you would have voted first, not waited for Farside.

[Lord Gurgi]

I don't understand Porkens?

I distinctly indicated that Cass was a Mason before anyone else said anything?

You said that after there were no other candidates for Mason, we had a dead mason, and an unclaimed player. It's not hard to put that together.

[Lord Gurgi]

post 764: donkeyz says cass is mason.

post 772: Jebus claims wolven hero.

If donkeyz is scum, then he would have to be Jebus's scum buddy, cass's scum buddy, really lucky, or had picked up on a bread crumb.

I did reread, and you're right, but I don't see any reason why donkey and Jebus can't be scum together. I'm completely up in arms about Cass though, because she's playing like a lunatic.

[Lord Gurgi]

How is Cass playing like a lunatic? I think she's been playing quite well and making valid points all around?

She uses conflicting logic, specifically she says she doesn't believe Spyrex and Myself's claim, and then says she doesn't believe mine because I didn't bread crumb like SpyreX. I would like her to comment on the recent formation of a wagon on her.

[Lord Gurgi]

I'm going to take some license here and say that Farside has a vagina, the proper pronoun is she or her.

[Lord Gurgi]

What about just from a flavor perspective, all the other roles work or have some flavor rationalization. Where's the rationalization for a Werewolf

Princess

?

[Lord Gurgi]

Can someone be pro-town this game? Is that too much to ask?

[Lord Gurgi]

It seems like we've gotten to the point where we're debating the order of our lynch. At this point I think that two of Jebus/Raider/Donkey are scum. So, for the purposes of being more informed I am switching my vote.

Unvote, Vote; Raider

.

[Lord Gurgi]

Didn't you say your PM says that your mothers don't pay much attention to you or something, it's a stretch, but I suppose the mod might have thought it was strong enough, without being confirmation, that is.

[Lord Gurgi]

If Septia is telling the truth, and we lynch him, we will lose.

My growing problem with Septia is that he/she is not defending him/herself.

[Lord Gurgi]

If Septia is telling the truth, and we lynch him, we will lose.

how does us lynching septia change the scenario from us NOT lynching him? Same number of people die.

Are you serious?

If septia is telling the truth:

Town Lynches Septia (-1 town)
Maf killls Spy (-1 town)
Maf kills Gurgi (-1 town)
With no mother, Cass dies (-1 town)

If we hang anyone else (even a misslynch)

We hang X townie (-1 town)
Maf kills Sept (-1 town)
Maf kills Gurgi or Spy (-1 or -2 IFF they hit the right she-wolf)

I

What you're saying is that if she's telling the truth, we have a 50% chance of losing, that would suggest that out best chance is to lynch her, because if she's town we've basically already lost. However, I am quite sure that raider is scum.

[Lord Gurgi]

Here's my problem, if all our current theories are true, we have two scum groups, a princess, two lovestruck roles, that is SOME BASTARD MODDERY right there.

[Lord Gurgi]

There is no way the scum is getting 2 kills with no night. I repeat there is no night. They wouldn't have a clue that a day was skipped so how would they get 2 kills when night actions have to be in before the end of the day lynch?

How hard would it be for the mod to send a PM saying: "gg, you get another night action"?

...

Vote count

(10 players alive = 6 to lynch before deadline)
(3) Septia – farside22, donkeyz12212, raider8169
(3) raider8169 – SpyreX, Lord Gurgi, Porkens
(2) Jebus – Cass, cerebus3
(1) donkeyz12212 – Jebus

Not voting:

, Septia

Deadline:

Saturday 9 August 2:00 PM (GMT -5 according to forum clock)

[Lord Gurgi]

Hold on a second, I can't help that notice that Septia has not been here for the formation, nor the dissolution of the wagon. That's lurking in my book.

[Lord Gurgi]

With all this discussion I will agree to either a porkens lynch or raider lynch. Both will be informative and non distructive.

Why Porkens?

If you look at it for destructive my taking me out that is one less thing protecting the alpha. Given a night or 2 I would just be taken out that way. If that is what your goal is.

Could you rephrase that so it's understandable?

[Lord Gurgi]

Pro speedlynch there guys. I guess all I can do is cross my fingers now.

[Lord Gurgi]

OHHHHH DANNNNNYYYYY BOOOOOOY.

[Lord Gurgi]

Queen fits better. Every time.

I want to break free
I want to break free
I want to break free from your lies
Youre so self satisfied I dont need you
Ive got to break free
God knows God knows I want to break free

Ive fallen in love
Ive fallen in love for the first time
And this time I know its for real
Ive fallen in love yeah
God knows God knows Ive fallen in love

Its strange but its true
I cant get over the way you love me like you do
But I have to be sure
When I walk out that door
Oh how I want to be free baby
Oh how I want to be free
Oh how I want to break free

But life still goes on
I cant get used to living without living without
Living without you by my side
I dont want to live alone hey
God knows got to make it on my own
So baby cant you see
Ive got to break free

Ive got to break free
I want to break free yeah

I want I want I want I want to break free....

HOORAY FOR TWILIGHT SPAM!

[Lord Gurgi]

It's not that I am against the Septia lynch (though I'd really love

her

to come in and defend

herself

before we decide!)

I don't have a vagina.

Glad to see I wasn't lynched. And I wasn't lurking, I just never came online.

I don't know how you guys want me to defend myself. I willingly told you guys my role, and I clearly have no other information because of my role. It looks like the mafia are trying to jump on me because they know my role is unconfirmable and have an excuse for lynching me when the day ends.

Was a majority reached?

This is a speed game, notice that when signing up you were asked NOT TO DO THIS, and that this game IS A COMMITMENT. You left us hanging and I am not happy that the wagon dissolved without anything from you.

[Lord Gurgi]

Vote: Septia

. Never was a very plausible role, I don't have much else to say.

[Lord Gurgi]

Uh Simulposted (I think), should I unvote for that to work?

[Lord Gurgi]

Post-prophet SpyreX, all hail.

[Lord Gurgi]

Gay.

Best defense ever.

[Lord Gurgi]

This is the you're dead either way just get it over with because it's really in your best interest either way thing. Farside might miss an entire day XD

[Lord Gurgi]

I WANT them to miss an entire day. In a twisted way, this could be about the best thing for town ever. The fact that Septia isn't being a helper is scumtell, TM.

QFT.

[Lord Gurgi]

I'd rather let the mafia kill you guys if I'm getting lynched like this tbh.

Have fun with a double NK.

Then hammer yourself idiot.

Vote count

(9 players alive = 5 to lynch before deadline)
(4) Septia – SpyreX, Porkens, Lord Gurgi, cerebus3
(1) SpyreX – Septia

Not voting:

Cass, donkeyz12212, farside22, raider8169

Deadline:

Wednesday 13 August 2:00 PM (GMT -5 according to forum clock)

[Lord Gurgi]

Day 6!

[Lord Gurgi]

Oh, by the way I was really the Jester. Thanks guys.

Seriously?

[Lord Gurgi]

I think he's just being an idiot.

[Lord Gurgi]

So Porkens, you're for a Raider lynch either way tomorrow?

[Lord Gurgi]

Septia, are you or are you not a Princess?,

[Lord Gurgi]

Vote: Raider

. My thoughts exactly. We out sped the mod. High fives all around.

[Lord Gurgi]

CPU overload, anyway, let's get a hammer SpyreX.

[Lord Gurgi]

We need 2 more

I gotta hit the sack guys, gl godspeed.

Are you a sleepy panda?

[Lord Gurgi]

Woo for another survival win! <3 For SpyreX, my man.