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Post Post #129 (isolation #0) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:45 pm

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I saw someone wanted to elect me. Why? I am good with setup spec but I don't have strong enough reads to be a marketplace leader yet. I am fine with letting that settle as it may.

Elect: Menalque


Now I'll properly catch up to get a foothold and place my bid.
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Post Post #131 (isolation #1) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:51 pm

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In post 109, Ginngie wrote:How town is gobble
VOTE: Gingie
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Post Post #133 (isolation #2) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:53 pm

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In post 130, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 129, Titus wrote:I saw someone wanted to elect me. Why? I am good with setup spec but I don't have strong enough reads to be a marketplace leader yet. I am fine with letting that settle as it may.

Elect: Menalque


Now I'll properly catch up to get a foothold and place my bid.
The most important part of your catch up so far will be to refer to me as Captain or The Captain. And, to not become my sworn enemy as Maria did. Also, don't yell at Maria for not reading the first 65 posts.

There. Caught up.
Yes Capetan.
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Post Post #142 (isolation #3) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:03 pm

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In post 135, Datisi wrote:Y'all are electing scum but ok
Then Menalque will have to put in good suggestions or be highly suspect. It's not worth worrying about the alignment of the day 1 of the shopkeeper, just their competence. I know he can setup spec and know who would be good with each role.
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Post Post #149 (isolation #4) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:08 pm

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In post 145, Datisi wrote:
In post 140, Chemist1422 wrote:bad reads
Pedit: ehhhh
I am kinda more worried about the psychological effect putting him in the ~high position~ will have if he's scum than the actual mechanical outcomes of it frankly

Ppedit: cool, and same
Noted. I don't care much for MS authority, particularly males who act holier than though. Menalque gets no special favors.

Now, why did you tunnel on him so early? Why not sit back, scum hunt, and let him show you who his partners are?
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Post Post #150 (isolation #5) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:09 pm

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In post 148, PenguinPower wrote:Don't make me sue you.
That's my job...and the courts are closed. :(
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Post Post #167 (isolation #6) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:17 pm

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In post 155, Datisi wrote:
In post 149, Titus wrote:Noted. I don't care much for MS authority, particularly males who act holier than though. Menalque gets no special favors.

Now, why did you tunnel on him so early? Why not sit back, scum hunt, and let him show you who his partners are?
I genuinely have no clue what that means but alrighty

The longer i wait, potentially more ~thread control~ he gets. And I am not very good at convincing people. I'd rather start early.

Plus, I was curious on his reactions to all this.
Thread control isn't a thing though. I thought it was when I was newer too. People synergize with their townreads, thus creating thread control. Getting the best out of people and being humble that you can be wrong is thread control. With that, you can protect your town core for awhile.

Titus v Alisae is an excellent primer. I was a town treestump. I expected my reads to be wrong because I expected people to fuck with me. So I deliberately picked masons with the opposite skillset and built town outward from them.
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Post Post #169 (isolation #7) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:19 pm

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In post 161, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 129, Titus wrote:am good with setup spec but I don't have strong enough reads to be a marketplace leader yet.
Why do you/does anyone need strong reads to be an auction owner
Being the most effective shopkeeper owner involves identifying town and placing the best items for them in the market. People play differently.
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Post Post #175 (isolation #8) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:21 pm

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In post 173, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 169, Titus wrote:
In post 161, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 129, Titus wrote:am good with setup spec but I don't have strong enough reads to be a marketplace leader yet.
Why do you/does anyone need strong reads to be an auction owner
Being the most effective shopkeeper owner involves identifying town and placing the best items for them in the market. People play differently.
So different townies would theoretically receive different items in your world as auction owner? I hadn’t thought of that
I'd put different items for bids and suggest certain slots bid on them, yes.
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Post Post #220 (isolation #9) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:50 pm

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Lag is off at 4 am PST lol
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Post Post #300 (isolation #10) » Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:09 am

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Gobble might be scum but Ginngie has higher odds of flipping scum.
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Post Post #473 (isolation #11) » Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:23 am

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In post 304, Menalque wrote:
In post 300, Titus wrote:Gobble might be scum but Ginngie has higher odds of flipping scum.
Why?
Ginmgie is taking a very passive wait and see approach while Gobble is being forward about an unpopular opinion.
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Post Post #474 (isolation #12) » Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:31 am

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In post 376, Pink Ball wrote:
So Titus and Captain are town, gobble and Mena are both town too. Pine is probably town. Chemist could go either way but more town than scum.
Bingle and Alacrity no content overall. Gingie I have no impression. And that goes perfect with my three scumreads: Datisi, Gamma and Maria!

Solved game guys.

Elect: Menalque
I agree with the bolded. However, I feel Alacrity is more likely to be scum not wanting to mess up the flow rather than anything here. I feel Datisi is town for the same reason Gobble is.

Gamma feels a bit pocketing and gotcha with the rule of 3 analysis. I wouldn't rule out Gamma Maria based on the overreaction, just not my favorite pairing.

My guess would be Gingie, Gamma, Alacrity.
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Post Post #479 (isolation #13) » Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:38 am

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In post 441, Ginngie wrote:Ah fuck, hate phones

Also for the above post why not

Yeah tbh i myself have a pocket of super early game tells i hunt for. My first one was Mela and he concerns me with how quick he is To declare reads in the beginning. Funny actually, Pine in this game taught me the tell. In a marathon game, he caught Ali (hilariously enough) as scum cuz Ali declared a person as town and Pine was like you’re way too confident too early. Boom. Gottem.

Tangent aside, I see Mela throwing out reads like zingers and i worry. However I’ll say I’ve lessened my doubts about Mela due to his wobble on Gobble. regardless of how it plays out i can see his progression in the read and it’s not taking any out of place turns
Lots of words. No conclusions.
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Post Post #482 (isolation #14) » Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:42 am

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In post 477, Pink Ball wrote:That's my biggest scumread and two of my nullreads so I'm fine with it. Also agreeing in townreads is nicer than scumreads.

So, nice.
Let's vote Gamma.

VOTE: Gamma
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Post Post #483 (isolation #15) » Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:44 am

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In post 481, Bingle wrote:
Elect:Titus
Thanks but I don't want it today unless forced to step up. Too many unknown personalities.
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Post Post #494 (isolation #16) » Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:05 am

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In post 485, Bingle wrote:Don't bother bidding for useless to town roles unless it's a trivial bid ($1 or similar), they're a waste of money. (Neighborizor, Auction Detective).

Play like it's a closed setup with no massclaims elsewise.
You and I are going to not really get along setup wise lol.
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Post Post #541 (isolation #17) » Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:35 pm

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Highlighting the obvious question...

Why are we supposing voting for me is the mechanically superior option when I am weaker in earlier day phases and I haven't actually played with Bingle as far as I recall?
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Post Post #543 (isolation #18) » Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:15 pm

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PB, why would Bingle be aware of my play if we never played together?
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Post Post #604 (isolation #19) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:04 am

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In post 601, gobbledygook wrote:Also whoever outbid me for neighborizer I hate you
Why would you be bidding as a leading wagon at all?
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Post Post #608 (isolation #20) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:05 am

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If people really want me to be leader

Elect: Titus
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Post Post #610 (isolation #21) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:07 am

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In post 588, PenguinPower wrote:Titus - what is your read on me?
Strong lean town, Capetan!
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Post Post #612 (isolation #22) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:09 am

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In post 599, Menalque wrote:Also I’m lowkey paranoid you’re scum PB bc of how hard you’re disagreeing with me on reads
PB and I largely have the same reads. Do you lowkey think I am scum?
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Post Post #689 (isolation #23) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:06 am

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In post 687, Ginngie wrote:
In post 140, Chemist1422 wrote:mena pushed to gain a power like this in mainstream 2

mena was town (then got culted but dw about it) in mainstream 2

therefore mena is town

bad reads gogogo
In post 200, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 192, PenguinPower wrote:Can we just treat Mena as Town until post Market election?
Can we not

There’s interactions and stuff to be gained if we don’t
45 minutes apart lmao
I don't see a problem with that. Just because I feel someone is town doesn't mean that someone should be forced to treat my townread as town unless there's a straight up mechanical reason to do so. That
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Post Post #691 (isolation #24) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:10 am

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My MariaR read is falling due to her lack of posting.

Oh just FYI, unless we lynch scum today, I don't plan on putting the dayvig in the shop. However, if it appears, it should be used as a second lynch for town if I die. Get a slot to L-1, it claims. If the day vig recipient thinks the slot is scum, it shoots it. If not, it doesn't. It needs to decide within 12 hours or its next post.

That is unless the dayvig holder also has a mechanical guilty. Then the holder should try to drive a wagon on the guilty target. If the wagon is successful pre-claim, hold the shot. If another wagon gets to L-1, then shoot the guilty.
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Post Post #697 (isolation #25) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:16 am

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In post 693, PenguinPower wrote:I will not support a Market Leader who will deny me my dayvig.
I wouldn't deny you a day vig. You'd be one of my favorites if it appeared to get it. I just a) don't want a role that people would be bidding against each other on as town gets more PRs that way and b) I'd want a clear setup to get the maximum use out of the dayvig.

Still, I left clear instructions on what to do with the dayvig. (I'm kinda shocked I'm this far TRed but preparing for my death anyway.)
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Post Post #699 (isolation #26) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:19 am

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Sure. I could use some suggestions.
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Post Post #702 (isolation #27) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:29 am

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In post 701, Ginngie wrote:
In post 691, Titus wrote:My MariaR read is falling due to her lack of posting.

Oh just FYI, unless we lynch scum today, I don't plan on putting the dayvig in the shop. However, if it appears, it should be used as a second lynch for town if I die. Get a slot to L-1, it claims. If the day vig recipient thinks the slot is scum, it shoots it. If not, it doesn't. It needs to decide within 12 hours or its next post.

That is unless the dayvig holder also has a mechanical guilty. Then the holder should try to drive a wagon on the guilty target. If the wagon is successful pre-claim, hold the shot. If another wagon gets to L-1, then shoot the guilty.
3 scum with 800 so thats max 3 buyouts

A2: cop shot, scum will take it, one will bid 501

If we get scum today, that gets rid of another buyout
A3: dayvig shot, scum will take it, one will bid 501

After that scum wont have buying power and you buy the auction cop shots to try and find the 501 dayvig bid


Being real dayvig is a trap in this set up lmao
Dayvig is not a trap. It's a pretty poweful role if you actually hold off using it as town. Sometimes the threat of a role is more effective than actually having it trigger. I had the ability to force scum to face an extra lynch by holding my dayvig in Titus v Alisae. That effectively hamstrung the last scum's endgame because he would be out of lynches mechanically. I even added the novice modifier to my dayvig to ensure I couldn't blow it too early.

Scum on the other hand would want to blow a dayvig early as soon as they got a hint of whoever had the two shot watcher role for instance, as watcher can get a hard guilty early in the game. Scum successful play is about blocking the ways town can defeat you or blocking the ways your team can implode. (Town is sort of similar although you actually have to go forward towards lynching/shooting scum as well.)
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Post Post #705 (isolation #28) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:45 am

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In post 704, Bingle wrote:
In post 558, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 555, Bingle wrote:Gobbles is a player I'm okay leaving as a high value scumkill tonight
What...? Why am I high value scum kill?
Percieved skill.
In post 560, gobbledygook wrote:Why PB, Bingle?
Why not? He's been the awkward half of a bunch of interactions, so he seems like a pretty good lynch choice.
I think both PB and Gobble are horrible lynch choices.
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Post Post #708 (isolation #29) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:52 am

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That being said, in this type of setup, there is a good chance I am wrong about one of Gobble/PB being scum.

Gobble's vote claims appear to be particularly town unless he's the 500 dollar watcher bid.
PB and I just mindmeld too much for me to think he's scum.

Rock meet hard place.
Ice meet margarita.

Yippie. Yup that's right. Tipsy Titus for the next 30 minutes or so.
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Post Post #709 (isolation #30) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:52 am

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*vote claims = bid claims
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Post Post #784 (isolation #31) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:51 am

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VOTE: MariaR

I prefer this to Gobble/PB.
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Post Post #793 (isolation #32) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:14 am

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Gingie, why is MariaR not in your lynchpool?
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Post Post #860 (isolation #33) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:49 am

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In post 859, Chemist1422 wrote:I'd probably go PB over gobble off of gut feelings

Feeling like he's sort of...egging on town pushes on town
There's 4 hours until plurality lynch deadline. Vote please.
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Post Post #1205 (isolation #34) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:33 pm

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In post 1182, Bingle wrote:What were your choices and why Titus?
I deliberately attempted to stack all the hitman and auction detectives today. This would create an impossible voting situation. I have more detail drafted in my PT about the dilemma.

Basically, if scum elected to pass on the hitmen, I would stack the deck with bulletproofs, commuters etc. If they took the hitmen, I would stack the deck with investigators and they'd be too broke to get the anti-investigators.
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Post Post #1209 (isolation #35) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:39 pm

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Scum!Titus puts on the dayvig, the jailkeeper, the neighborizer and probably another watcher.
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Post Post #1215 (isolation #36) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:40 pm

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VOTE: Ginngie
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Post Post #1222 (isolation #37) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:47 pm

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In post 1216, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 1205, Titus wrote:
In post 1182, Bingle wrote:What were your choices and why Titus?
I deliberately attempted to stack all the hitman and auction detectives today. This would create an impossible voting situation. I have more detail drafted in my PT about the dilemma.

Basically, if scum elected to pass on the hitmen, I would stack the deck with bulletproofs, commuters etc. If they took the hitmen, I would stack the deck with investigators and they'd be too broke to get the anti-investigators.
How would we know if they got those items?
By the bids. I fully intend to at least partially vanillaize myself to force their hand on the issue, at least partially.

The auction detectives detect who bids on what. That's effectively a cop with no immunity role in the game. If someone bids on a role, they have to explain why and out their money left.
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Post Post #1230 (isolation #38) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:04 pm

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In post 1229, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:
In post 1224, Menalque wrote:
In post 1220, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:lol my scumgame is legendary?
I mean, it’s known at least
from literally ONE game
I'd pick you first
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Post Post #1233 (isolation #39) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:32 pm

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In post 1231, Ginngie wrote:VOTE: Chemist
Chemist push back on me at EoD was pretty town.
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Post Post #1281 (isolation #40) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 3:59 pm

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In post 1272, Pink Ball wrote:Should we try to auction for the Ninja and Hitman so the scumteam is forced to auction more money? They're only two
That's the plan. I was going to seek a volunteer to help with that. I'm bidding on Ninja atm. Not a large bid, but a moonlogic signature that will show at half day unless I am outbid at halfday.
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Post Post #1282 (isolation #41) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:00 pm

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In post 1274, gobbledygook wrote:you kept vanity voting Gamma Emerald
*whispers* It's gamma and gingie.
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Post Post #1290 (isolation #42) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:20 pm

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In post 1287, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1205, Titus wrote:
In post 1182, Bingle wrote:What were your choices and why Titus?
I deliberately attempted to stack all the hitman and auction detectives today. This would create an impossible voting situation. I have more detail drafted in my PT about the dilemma.

Basically, if scum elected to pass on the hitmen, I would stack the deck with bulletproofs, commuters etc. If they took the hitmen, I would stack the deck with investigators and they'd be too broke to get the anti-investigators.
Although scum have 2 possible outbids?
Yes. If all my selections had gone through, scum would be forced to decide on whether to use them on hitman and forgo any other goodies or blocks the rest of the game. That's a no win scenario.
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Post Post #1296 (isolation #43) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:49 pm

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In post 1295, Gamma Emerald wrote:I still don’t get it. One scum bids on Hitman and the other holds their funds to snipe something else? Actually iirc there’s two auction detectives, is the plan to use that against them?
Exactly. The auction detective up for bid is a 2 shot role. There's still one in the bank. That can detect if they snipe. The auction detect will know when to use it based on the bid histories at EoD.

They also have a limited number of snipes bc of losing scum D1. If there was a third scum, this plan would be less effective.
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Post Post #1297 (isolation #44) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:49 pm

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In post 1294, Pink Ball wrote:Wait a goddamn minute

Mena you got the neighborizer and you didn't neighborize ME????????????
Or me... :(
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Post Post #1298 (isolation #45) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:50 pm

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In post 1293, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1290, Titus wrote:
In post 1287, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1205, Titus wrote:
In post 1182, Bingle wrote:What were your choices and why Titus?
I deliberately attempted to stack all the hitman and auction detectives today. This would create an impossible voting situation. I have more detail drafted in my PT about the dilemma.

Basically, if scum elected to pass on the hitmen, I would stack the deck with bulletproofs, commuters etc. If they took the hitmen, I would stack the deck with investigators and they'd be too broke to get the anti-investigators.
Although scum have 2 possible outbids?
Yes. If all my selections had gone through, scum would be forced to decide on whether to use them on hitman and forgo any other goodies or blocks the rest of the game. That's a no win scenario.
Wdym ALL your selections? Did something not work out according to plan?
I wanted to have today be all hitmen and auction detectives.
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Post Post #1315 (isolation #46) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:39 pm

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VOTE: Gamma Emerald
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Post Post #1316 (isolation #47) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:40 pm

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In post 1313, Ginngie wrote:
In post 343, Chemist1422 wrote:I'm liking Maria's posts for no specific reason, or at least not one that I can pinpoint
This with combined yesterday of not voting until a CW appeared for Maria wagon.

Makes me sus af to start the day with
This is more likely to be true if her CW was also her partner. Otherwise, why not vote the CW?
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Post Post #1326 (isolation #48) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:26 am

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In post 1319, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:ftr I maxed out on the ninja at the start of the day

so it's basically pointless to bid on it
Why did you do that?
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Post Post #1336 (isolation #49) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:10 am

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In post 1331, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 1329, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1323, Pink Ball wrote:gobble if you're not scumreading Gamma it would be great if you unvoted him; I'm not voting myself tomorrow if Gamma flips town. I'd rather argue with you for the rest of the game and convince myself that I'm wrong now than get two towns lynched
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Oh it's more of a "I think I could be breaking a rule with this" kind of thing
It's not tbh. You're doing in game only things. Sig bets are OOG influence.
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Post Post #1355 (isolation #50) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:48 am

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In post 1343, Datisi wrote:PB, can you try to look at it from my perspective? I'm trying to work with Mena. Instead I'm getting told that I'm SRing him for "???" reasons, which once I lay them out again I get ignored. I press forward again, I get called lazy and get threatened with a policy. How am I supposed to see that as Town "struggling to trust me" as opposed to scum trying to start a fight he knows he's going to win?

wrt your point on Maria, I didn't think Maria was scum, I didn't think she was Town. The wagon composition was ~fine enough~. I always preferred Mena.
I am a bit worried about Mena atm.
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Post Post #1366 (isolation #51) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:29 pm

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Whoever bid 500 on hitman needs to claim it. Refusal to claim today will be considered a scumclaim.
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Post Post #1367 (isolation #52) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:31 pm

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In post 1364, Gamma Emerald wrote:If people are okay doing this I’d like everyone to give their strongest prospect for a deep wolf.
I don't think there is, despite my concerns on Mena.

This feels like you shopping for a counterwagon.
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Post Post #1372 (isolation #53) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:40 pm

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In post 728, Datisi wrote:PP, what is your opinion on the possible mutual bus ploy here then?
In post 729, PenguinPower wrote:I think it's possible but not probable at this point.
In post 732, MariaR wrote:I don't think the 'dounble bus' thing should really be a topic of conversation unless one of them flip mafia.
Gobble and Mena has at most one scum. Likely 0.
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Post Post #1475 (isolation #54) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:35 am

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VOTE: Pine

Gamma likely isn't scum bc 1.12.
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Post Post #1591 (isolation #55) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:14 am

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In post 1476, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 1475, Titus wrote:VOTE: Pine

Gamma likely isn't scum bc 1.12.
Why Pine vote? What do you think of my chemist vote?
And what does 1.12 mean?
Pine feels scummier. Chemist vote isn't bad though.

1.12 = VC 1.12

Melanque just worries me on a gut level. Not sure why.
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Post Post #1827 (isolation #56) » Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:25 pm

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VOTE: Mena Feeling this today.

Minus doctor, all my items went as planned.
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Post Post #1829 (isolation #57) » Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:33 pm

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Btw, I intend to put the dayvig up tmo. Today scum have to block out cop IMO.
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Post Post #1834 (isolation #58) » Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:53 pm

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In post 1831, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 1827, Titus wrote:VOTE: Mena Feeling this today.

Minus doctor, all my items went as planned.
How come?
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Post Post #1835 (isolation #59) » Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:54 pm

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In post 1830, Gamma Emerald wrote:Only do that if we lynch scum today imo
Why? If they already blocked auction detective, they only have one block left.
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Post Post #1840 (isolation #60) » Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:38 pm

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In post 1836, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1834, Titus wrote:
In post 1831, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 1827, Titus wrote:VOTE: Mena Feeling this today.

Minus doctor, all my items went as planned.
How come?
Given Gamma's lack of claim, I supposed scum got the hitman and loaded up on game solving non protective PRs.
Was the results announced before lock? Because I wasn’t told I got it until I explicitly asked.
It was not. I inferred both hitman (unclaimed) and auction detective (question mark) were sniped.

With the claims though, I am not sure.
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Post Post #1842 (isolation #61) » Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:46 pm

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In post 1841, Gamma Emerald wrote:Then why are you FoSing me for not doing a thing I CLEARLY did?
I'm not. You claimed today. I just never saw day 2. That's all I am saying.

I have you as town based on vc 1.12.
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Post Post #1853 (isolation #62) » Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:16 pm

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In post 1843, Gamma Emerald wrote:Okay what did you expect me to claim so you'd pick the other set of items? I announced I bid on the hitman when prompted what else is there you wanted?
I wanted the claim yesterday so I could plan items last night.
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Post Post #1905 (isolation #63) » Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:59 pm

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So you think Gamma town is a bad take?

Gamma, Gobble, Alyssa, and Chennis are all probably town.

I want to lynch in Melanque, Chemist (solely bc yesterday), and Gingie.
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Post Post #1976 (isolation #64) » Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:46 am

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In post 1946, Bingle wrote:SMan - Gamerald
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Of these, all of the useful for town options should already have been used, with the exception of BP. If you recieved a role, you should probably claim it.
This is yuck. Only the proscum roles (hitman and ninja) should claim. If Alyssa is town or lynched, outing the BP only serves scum. RB same thing.
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Post Post #1977 (isolation #65) » Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:47 am

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In post 1964, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 1946, Bingle wrote:SMan - Gamerald
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Of these, all of the useful for town options should already have been used, with the exception of BP. If you recieved a role, you should probably claim it.
Wait Titus got the Ninja or Alyssa got the Ninja?
Why do you want people to claim their abilities?
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Post Post #1984 (isolation #66) » Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:52 am

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In post 1982, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:Because everybody else is town and you're transparently scum
There has to be one other scum. I'm not certain Melanque is scum or town. He just gives me the creeps when I slot him either way.

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Post Post #1986 (isolation #67) » Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:53 am

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In post 1983, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:Feel like explaining why you try to shut down everybody's posting when it doesn't exactly fit into your worldview?

Its not like you have any pressure if you're town here
That's a sign of boneheaded wrong arrogance that's NAI.
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Post Post #1994 (isolation #68) » Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:58 am

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In post 1990, Menalque wrote:I would actively like people to post more and make clearer what their stances are and think I’ve been both clear and consistent on that point

I just don’t want them to vote anyone other than you and I don’t want anyone who is voting you to move their vote
Dude, I have no interest in Alyssa today and I have no interest in talking to someone who isn't listening.
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Post Post #1999 (isolation #69) » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:00 am

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You can perfectly explain why town!Bingle rolefishes the BP here if Alyssa is scum.
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Post Post #2000 (isolation #70) » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:01 am

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In post 1998, Menalque wrote:
In post 1994, Titus wrote:
In post 1990, Menalque wrote:I would actively like people to post more and make clearer what their stances are and think I’ve been both clear and consistent on that point

I just don’t want them to vote anyone other than you and I don’t want anyone who is voting you to move their vote
Dude, I have no interest in Alyssa today and I have no interest in talking to someone who isn't listening.
Why not? What are you seeing in her ISO that says town to you?
The hitman claim, the way she interacts with you (much different that whooper), this is T v A resigned Ank
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Post Post #2001 (isolation #71) » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:02 am

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I want to talk Bingle, Mena. Why is Bingle town?
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Post Post #2006 (isolation #72) » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:08 am

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In post 2004, Menalque wrote:The problem with lynching bingle first is that it gives ank enough towncred on the bus to push through a lynch on me and probably pine and to get to f3
This is ludicrous. If Bingle's obvscum, no one gets buscred.

Stop throwing a tantrum and vote scum with me.

Shit like this where you egomislynch town is why I can't town lock you. You're getting into too many fights with town.

Alyssa v you can wait until 1 scum left. Alyssa scum didn't get hitman, so she can't kill anyone. Particularly if Gamma is town.

Alyssa scum can't do what you describe.
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Post Post #2009 (isolation #73) » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:12 am

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In post 2008, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1976, Titus wrote:
In post 1946, Bingle wrote:SMan - Gamerald
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Of these, all of the useful for town options should already have been used, with the exception of BP. If you recieved a role, you should probably claim it.
This is yuck. Only the proscum roles (hitman and ninja) should claim. If Alyssa is town or lynched, outing the BP only serves scum. RB same thing.
In post 1977, Titus wrote:
In post 1964, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 1946, Bingle wrote:SMan - Gamerald
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Neighborizor (2 Shot)

Of these, all of the useful for town options should already have been used, with the exception of BP. If you recieved a role, you should probably claim it.
Wait Titus got the Ninja or Alyssa got the Ninja?
Why do you want people to claim their abilities?
Alyssa
Titus please engage with my concerns
Which posts?

Pedit, Gobble join the Bingle wagon if not already on
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Post Post #2018 (isolation #74) » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:58 am

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In post 2010, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1937, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1842, Titus wrote:
In post 1841, Gamma Emerald wrote:Then why are you FoSing me for not doing a thing I CLEARLY did?
I'm not. You claimed today. I just never saw day 2. That's all I am saying.

I have you as town based on vc 1.12.
OKay I figured out the disconnect but I'm still upset. You DELIBERATELY asked about who bid on hitman, and I responded as soon as I could. Mena might have a point, this gives me the sense your scumhunting is superficial.
@Titus
I'm not scumreading you for the late reply. I just scumread hitman, until it was claimed. I also TR you independently of the bid. Being upset with me because real life intervened is just frankly annoying. You can't expect me to be psychic.
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Post Post #2021 (isolation #75) » Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:00 am

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Still against all claims here. If I were the rb, I would hold it until one scum alive. Then use it to clear someone.
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Post Post #2071 (isolation #76) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:01 am

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The rb double checking, bleh. The rb gets a clear with 1 scum left and a kill. It can't double check unless we're stupid. Second, scum faking an inno on their partner as cops get lynched in m/lylo plus 1 day.

Tracker and Watcher shouldn't claim because scum know it's used.

Claims happen at lylo plus 1.

Second, the bp hiding protects town by buying time. It turns the dayvig into a free shot if BP hides.

P.S. Gamma's town so...
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Post Post #2073 (isolation #77) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:15 am

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In post 2072, Ginngie wrote:was that for me or no
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Post Post #2151 (isolation #78) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:02 pm

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In post 2138, chennisden wrote:the daykill disappearing is much better than it going to scum's hands.
Scum are out of money and lacking a hitman so...we're in a good position.
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Post Post #2152 (isolation #79) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:04 pm

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In post 2127, gobbledygook wrote:Titus, which of these auction items did you choose? The Dayvig being there makes today more precarious.
All of them.
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Post Post #2153 (isolation #80) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:07 pm

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In post 2149, chennisden wrote:
In post 2146, Chemist1422 wrote:hey remember that time alyssa let herself get lynched so people would pay attention to her reads then everyone ignored her reads
In post 2147, Chemist1422 wrote:does anyone even have a reason for me being scum that isn't just that I haven't died yet when I should have
this feels survivalistic in a bad way.

like i would've expected town to act differently, rather than seem resigned then go to "hey look at this shouldn't i live" at the drop of a hat
Town can realize they should not be in lylo.

Tell me why you aren't scum with Gingie.
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Post Post #2156 (isolation #81) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:24 pm

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Chennis, answer me on why you and Gingie aren't scum together.
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Post Post #2159 (isolation #82) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:35 pm

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In post 2158, chennisden wrote:i really don't understand how posting a loaded question like that helps you parse my alignment?
But why shouldn't I think that? You've done virtually no scumhunting since your arrival. Gingie has done virtually none. His half assed look at Titus is not scumhunting.
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Post Post #2165 (isolation #83) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 4:34 pm

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In post 2163, chennisden wrote:i also don't feel you've been scumhunting yesterday and your efforts on the bingle wagon reaaaaally felt like you going "ok so alyssa is actually going to be lynched, so let me maybe get people interested in bingle at the least risky time."
And that's my last suspect.

Scum is in you, Bingle and Gingie.
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Post Post #2178 (isolation #84) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:38 am

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In post 2175, Bingle wrote:Chem dayvig, mena tracker, chenn jk. Announce your number and make the bid.
Why are you assigning roles? This just again is a long way to get at who is a PR. Unless you have a neighborhood or some other way to protect said roles, you shouldn't do this.
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Post Post #2179 (isolation #85) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:41 am

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@Bingle, why is Gingie not in your pool?
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Post Post #2187 (isolation #86) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:06 am

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In post 2182, Ginngie wrote:
In post 2139, gobbledygook wrote:If you have 500 dollars and you are getting lynched you should DEFINITELY bid on the daykill. That should be the ONLY thing you bid on if you get lynched.
are we able to no lynch and then use the shot tomorrow
Why not lynch today and NL tmo?
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Post Post #2189 (isolation #87) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:08 am

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In post 2188, Ginngie wrote:
In post 2187, Titus wrote:
In post 2182, Ginngie wrote:
In post 2139, gobbledygook wrote:If you have 500 dollars and you are getting lynched you should DEFINITELY bid on the daykill. That should be the ONLY thing you bid on if you get lynched.
are we able to no lynch and then use the shot tomorrow
Why not lynch today and NL tmo?
One is fool proof and the other isnt.
Why?
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Post Post #2196 (isolation #88) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:33 am

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In post 2192, chennisden wrote:I
strongly believe
that we should lynch whoever gets the dayvig especially because if we just
let it
go to scum we're fucked

Allowing the dayvig to exist has much more harm than benefit and it's frankly surprising nobody else has seen this yet.
That's the position I expect scum to take.

If scum sniped the auction detective for greater than 300 and scum sniped the cop (known), then the dayvig winner is conftown.
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Post Post #2197 (isolation #89) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:35 am

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In post 2195, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 2186, Ginngie wrote:can you run that by me one more time lol
If Chemist is town and buys the dayvig successfully, then they just kill him and we can’t use it.
If chemist is not town and buys the dayvig they use the next day.
If they kill Chemist, they kill a mislynch instead of widely regarded town. It also gives a view of the gamestate the day Chemist was wagoned.
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Post Post #2198 (isolation #90) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:37 am

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If they leave Chemist town alive, then they'll buddy the fuck out of him.
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Post Post #2254 (isolation #91) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:28 am

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Gobble, I literally explained to you my actions. I have bid the rest of my money, but it's a little less than 300.
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Post Post #2255 (isolation #92) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:29 am

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I crumbed my successful bids. Rather obscurely too. Scum cannot CC me. So yeah.
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Post Post #2256 (isolation #93) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:32 am

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In post 2251, Bingle wrote:She's also pushing a lets not talk about results game which has functionally kept us mountainous based on "They'll find the PR's" fear which is completely unfounded in this game state.
Absolutely not.

Scum are wanting a mena push, who is cleared. Chemist, who will be, or me who couldn't snipe either.

This game is close to PoE. But we don't out the PRs yet.

We force scum to argue the auction detective wasn't a snipe, which is a bullshit position. Town would correct that.
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Post Post #2261 (isolation #94) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:14 pm

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Chemist, it means if you don't get the dayvig, we can infer either you're lying or scum bid $501 dollars. That would mean scum got the auction detective at lower than 500.
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Post Post #2262 (isolation #95) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:15 pm

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I find that hard to believe with the $89 winning three bids that AD was bought for 499 or less.
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Post Post #2263 (isolation #96) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:20 pm

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Now is the time for the AD to claim if town. If the gravedigger checks PB and no AD exists, we infer scum got AD.
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Post Post #2264 (isolation #97) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:20 pm

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P.S. if you have money left, throw it on the jk.

Here's looking at you Mr. Rodgers.
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Post Post #2266 (isolation #98) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:00 pm

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I think the hide is more to keep you mislynchable since there's no CC on your bid.
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Post Post #2276 (isolation #99) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:23 pm

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In post 2275, Bingle wrote:
In post 2256, Titus wrote:This game is close to PoE. But we don't out the PRs yet.
Today is potentially MYLO. We out fucking everything, because we need to lynch scum. This isn't rocket science.
Today shouldn't be mylo unless scum have the dayvig.

The 305 bid needs to explain.

If scum try to CC me, whatever. Gamma outed I won a bid or two so I am not worried about it. Plus, I kinda signed what I wanted. It was the stuff no one else did.
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Post Post #2277 (isolation #100) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:30 pm

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Gamma = Gobble
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Post Post #2279 (isolation #101) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:45 pm

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VOTE: Gingie

Well that's easy because Gobble claimed Watcher already.
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Post Post #2284 (isolation #102) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:19 pm

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Gingie, respect. Good luck in the game you're modding.
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Post Post #2312 (isolation #103) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:49 am

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Chen, why should I not think you're scum with Gingie? Gingie did indeed turn out to be scum.
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Post Post #2355 (isolation #104) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:33 pm

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I'd like to think this was one of my better town performances mechanically. By forcing scum outbidding town, they couldn't block all the PRs and have power to match.

If this setup is run again, the market owner needs less influence IMO. Like 1 slot guaranteed random.
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