Mini 634 - The Baron's court: Game over


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Post Post #17 (isolation #0) » Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:01 pm

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In previous Johoohno modded games green has been pro-town. I don't think speculating about what kind of role Nightson was will be in any way helpful. Its only taking away from the focus of actually scumhunting today.

Vote: Gremwell


Mariyta's inquiry about the role sounds honest, and SL tried to helpfully answer it while at the same time putting the matter to bed in post 8. Gremwell brings it back up again in 10, with a comment that is both untestable and highly distracting. So he gets my vote.
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Post Post #22 (isolation #1) » Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:21 pm

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Eh I've found that more often than not those engaging in and especially furthering the "shucks we lost a power role" discussion are actually the scum bragging about who they hit.

Its obviously not a strong case but its much better than a random vote.
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Post Post #64 (isolation #2) » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:37 am

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sekinj wrote:Is anyone else interested in playing this themed game??
Obviously we're all interested in playing this themed game, we all signed up for it. But volunteering role based information for no good reason is not a good idea. I have no idea if the rooms are simply flavor or have a mechanical function in game, but you can bet if they do have a function, its either the bad guys who need to know more about our personal information or a town power role who would be outing him/herself based on this information. The names might seem like a harmless thing for everyone to claim, but even that is giving up information without making the scum or anyone else fight to drag it out of us, i.e. by bandwagoning and leaving a vote record.

Unvote, Vote: sekinj


Although Gremwell is looking a lot like an active lurker at this point, which makes me want to keep my vote on him.
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Post Post #70 (isolation #3) » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:44 pm

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sekinj wrote:Fine. All you other townies can just sit there and lurk along with the scum and nothing will happen in this thread.
How is this in any way a response to the argument I made?
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Post Post #74 (isolation #4) » Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:13 pm

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I will keep my vote on sekinj until he reveal information that proves his alignment as well as his role name (as he has hinted he might be able to do, before daring the mafia to hammer him first).

At this point, I don't see why the role he claimed makes him any more likely to be town than scum.
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Post Post #81 (isolation #5) » Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:28 pm

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sekinj wrote:First: almost all of us have night powers of some sort, 10 in fact. I am one of the few who has none.
please elucidate. do you mean ten out of the starting eleven roles in the game had night actions? and that you are the one person who doesn't have a night action?
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Post Post #105 (isolation #6) » Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:42 pm

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sekinj wrote:If it were not true, wouldn't we have people jumping out of the wood-work claiming that they don't have night powers? but no, everyone took that news sitting down, no one reacted violently or was shocked, or stood up and screamed "WAIT!! SHE MUST BE SCUM, I DON'T HAVE NIGHT POWERS!!" That didn't happen. So to me, that looks like the information is accurate.
Please respond specifically to my post 81, which you seem to have missed.
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Post Post #108 (isolation #7) » Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:16 pm

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sekinj has not yet gone into enough detail on at least one of the pieces of information he is claiming for certain parties to know whether or not it is a lie.
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Post Post #110 (isolation #8) » Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:50 pm

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Confirm Vote: sekinj
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Post Post #112 (isolation #9) » Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:53 pm

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I'm not sharing any information with you, scum.
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Post Post #114 (isolation #10) » Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:58 pm

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Clearly I am saying that either
ten out of the starting eleven roles in the game had night actions
or
[sekinj is] the one person who doesn't have a night action
must be false.
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Post Post #118 (isolation #11) » Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:54 pm

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No response to the fact that my existence proves the supposed information you presented to be utterly false?

Nobody should volunteer any further information about their roles. I have sufficiently counterclaimed sekinj. She needs to be lynched now.
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Post Post #122 (isolation #12) » Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:18 pm

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Let me be as clear as possible with this statement:

I do not have any night abilities.


Your information is false. You are lying about something. Lynch all liars.
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Post Post #127 (isolation #13) » Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:36 am

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NEWSFLASH

Trying to get more role information out of me right now is scummy. I have provided sufficient information on the nature of my role to prove that sekinj's information is false.

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Post Post #130 (isolation #14) » Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:03 am

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Rage wrote:I would like more information from you, other than using Lynch All Liars, because we have no way to know if you or Sekinj are lying other than your words. What letters do your first, nickname, and last name start with?
No. Stop that. Seriously, I've said as much about my role as is necessary and I'm not just arbitrarily claiming anything else about it. Nobody else should be either.

These two statements can not both be true:
A)10 of 11 starting roles have night actions, and sekinj has no night action.
B)OhGodMyLife has no night action.
Rage wrote:@OhGodMyLife, Sekinj knows that if you are telling the truth, he is lying, and vice versa. So, if he has been lying, why would he risk giving out that information? It doesn’t seem like he would knowingly lie and, thus, be proven wrong. I agree, though, that something seems very out of place with his claim. I mean, come on! He’s the Baron’s Right-Hand man, and he has no night action? Not only that, but his Knowledge benefits the Scum much more than it does the Town!
As scum, this play makes sense from the perspective that it is either outright believed, thus making her seem to be town, or somebody claims to have no night actions, proving her wrong but also cluing the remaining mafia in as to who they won't need to be wasting a nightkill on. Its more creative than scum claiming doctor (or any other power role) in a normal game at L-1, but it served the same purpose. If sekinj was about to die anyway (she was wagoned to a claim), why not extract flip a coin and either clear yourself or extract some info about the distribution of town power as you go.
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Post Post #187 (isolation #15) » Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:13 am

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Had an unexpected absence from MS for a couple of days, catching up tonight.
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Post Post #205 (isolation #16) » Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:13 am

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Guys, I'm a vanilla townie with flavorful frills. If you really think that as scum I would counterclaim what is essentially also a vanilla with a twist claim from sekinj, on day one, then go ahead and help lynch me for that. But you're either scum or not thinking this through clearly at all.

Why on God's green Earth would scum sacrifice themselves on day one to lynch
the only vanilla townie
?

If what sekinj said were true, then every single other person in this game is a better target for a scum counterclaim. Every single one.
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Post Post #212 (isolation #17) » Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:08 pm

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I have no night abilities. There is a specific character in this game who, in the event they are ever nightkilled, I automatically lose. This is another reason why I am so against revealing any sort of role based information whatsoever. I don't want this person to be revealed.

That is the extent of my role. I'm not giving out the rolename or the character name, and I'm certainly not saying who my win con is tied to because (warning: setup speculation) its a good bet that the scum in this game have a rolecop of some kind.
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Post Post #215 (isolation #18) » Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:31 pm

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No. No night choice, action, ability whatsoever. I made very sure of that before I countered what you said.
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Post Post #217 (isolation #19) » Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:53 pm

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I don't see how sekinj could not be scum unless one of us has gravely misinterpreted our role information.
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Post Post #232 (isolation #20) » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:28 pm

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Unvote


sekinj, is there any conceivable way for you to have been given false information?
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Post Post #236 (isolation #21) » Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:56 pm

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I mentioned my 'lose if person x is lynched' condition already, I'm pretty sure I was the first person to bring this up, so all of you people who are claiming to also have this should either believe me more likely to be town because of it, or be lying.

Lyncher against a role, without being told who has the role, is I think an inconceivably difficult win condition. Normal lyncher is more plausible, but I don't think thats a conclusion my actions logically lead to. Note how I made very sure of what sekinj was saying before countering her claim with my own information.

In other news, I think mariyta has been acting really scummy this whole time.

Vote: Mariyta
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Post Post #240 (isolation #22) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:38 pm

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Um... no. I'm not giving you more role information so I can still earn your vote. Good try.
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Post Post #262 (isolation #23) » Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:36 pm

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I found you, didn't I?

After I get deadline lynched, you guys should be killing Mariyta and then Rage with all due haste.
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Post Post #266 (isolation #24) » Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:00 pm

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Giving you the name and other flavor information in my role in no way proves my claim of having no night action.

I love the word snarky.

Unvote, Vote: Rage
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Post Post #279 (isolation #25) » Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:13 am

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I like how rage presented his false dilemma in his note to the mod. It makes it seem so much more legitimate.

My vote is in a good place.
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Post Post #1009 (isolation #26) » Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:42 am

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Sorry for a historically poor performance from me on this game, guys. Great setup Jo

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