Chelseafan wrote:I'm a he first off.
You say Adel's plan was a good one , which I admitted. I said I didn't like being lynched, I don't see why that's scummy in a game such as this where a mis lynch may cost the town victory. The fact NO One else seemed to find any merit in the plan is quit baffling if they believed Me/ches were scum with Gimbo, though I'm not saying everyone did, Knight certaintly seemed to think so early on.
Also you didn't cath Adel's plan? Surely you would have read the thread before you put a vote on Gimbo? I mean there was enough references to it, it's not exactly like it was that hard to miss was it? I find it quite hard to believe you missed the plan really.
Adel asks Chelsea if she's willing to lynch Gimbo again and again.
Sorry I can't exactly answer a question if I'm not online. I don't believe I was asked the question "again and again" before I answered. I answered it as quick as I could.
Chelseafan wrote:Well the plan was out there though, I don't think it was that bad as I believe I said.
I find it hard to believe though that no one noticed it apart from me, in fact I'm pretty sure the scum would have noticed it and chosen not to comment it.
Meh I wasn't offended lol, just pointing it out
So basically what your saying is that if the rest of us had noticed it, and decided that that was the way to go, that you'd have been happy with that???
Nope, you said the only reason you would not go ahead with it was because it was you....
If you are town, and you did say you noticed it, why are you questioning everyone else so much about it?
If you are town, then the logic behind your questioning is that if everyone had agreed to it, you would have made the sacrifice.... But you didn't...
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Now, as for Adels plan, it did not register with me at the time, but the hulabaloo over it from Adel/Spyrex/CF has made me go back & look further into it.
What I can see is the initial suggestion from Adel, and CF agreeing its a good plan, but not wanting to go ahead with it.
Adel is then asked by Gimbo what it means, and Adel asks him to go look again.
Thats the end of this suggestion, and not even Adel pushed this.
Gimbo played a very scummy game, and practically everyone and their dog was agreed that Gimbo needed to go at that point. Its been said many times why people didnt want him to get to D2 with his ploy, I dont need to repeat this.
But behind the "what ifs" is the underlying fact that town thought him to be scum. And if all scum were on the wagon, it would have taken only 3?? town to lynch.
However, Chelseafan/Chenhsi were the only grouping not voting, hadn't alot to say about the whole affair, laid low in the process, and did not commit to anyone/anything.
I get the most scum vibes from this pairing at the moment, but there is another pair out there and Im at a crossroads between Forbidden/Knight & Harvey/Zeek, I find both on an equal scum/town footing at this point.
Zeek has posted better than HP since replacing, but he has mentioned that he thinks that CF/Chenhsi & Forbidden/Knight could be the scum pairing, I can see this, but he's also mentioned Nameless/Firestarter & Spyrex/Adel as an alternative to this, but without reasoning.
HP has been off too, removing the vote from Gimbo having had it on him since the random stage. Then saying that he didn't think Gimbo was town because he was too mad!! Ive never played a game with Gimbo, nor anyones else here, so I cannot go along with meta's, only whats put in front of me in-game.
HP is the scummiest of this pairing
I said earlier in the game that I thought that Knight was a misguided townie, but since the lynch of Gimbo, Knight has seemingly gone missing, after being so vocal in D1, he threw votes practically everywhere, a confusing scum tactic perhaps?. Forbiddens recent post asking him to come out of hiding as "she cannot defend both of them" is suspicious to me, altoguh I cant quite put my finger on it at this point. My earlier assumption seeing Knight as a misguided town doesn't sit as well with me at this point.
Knight is the scummiest of this pairing.
As Ive stated, I find Forbidden/Knight & Zeek/HP equally scummy and/or townish in their play till now, and one of them would be my candidates for the 2nd pairing of scum at this point. At a push, Knights play is possibly the scummiest of the 4 from memory.
There is also the pairing of Adel & Spyrex.
Most of the posts from this pairing have contained alot of sense, and experience, that is clear. But the really odd thing is the removal of the votes on Gimbo from both of them... and stating that they would be placing their votes back on Gimbo regardless of hammer or not???
This is even more baffling because if there was a major change/mishap/occurence/ in the time that the vote was removed up to the point that they both re-voted, would it have made a difference??? Spyrex himself said that he was not gonna change his mind, as that would have made him look scummy.
Given Gimbo's play, its clear why you suspected Gimbo so much, we all did,, but you did not leave scope to look at other avenues, after unvoting for discussion????
My concern here is the "hardened commitment" to Gimbo.
Saying that, I think that this pairing is the most townish left from the 4 other groups.
My scum to town list reads like this at the moment... Top being more scum, and bottom, etc, etc...
1. Chelseafan/Chenhsi
2. Zeek/HP ~ Forbidden/Knight.
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4. Spyrex/Adel
My
Vote
is on
CF/Chenhsi
at this point.
