Open 83 - Polygamist Mafia (Game over!) before 628

[Gimbo]

ops

Unvote Vote:Adel

[Nameless]

I can see why you would do a "hos" instead of a vote, and fear of a quicklynch has nothing to do with it.

And now you are beginning to attack people that attacked Gimbo.

Right. The first part of that is interpretation, and I'm not sure what I can say to it but "That's incorrect". As for the second part, I'm just pointing out a few things that don't seem right in other people's posts rather than focusing only on one player.

[Adel]

ops

Unvote Vote:Adel

would you indulge me by explaining why this is a vote based upon an accurate assessment of my alignment rather than a reflexive OMGUS! vote?

[Gimbo]

i already explained why i suspect you, SpyreX and Knight. Knight is exempt because he is a noob, SpyreX hasn't given me any more reads so that leaves you.

[chenhsi]

chenhsi, what are your thoughts on everything in Page 5? thnx.

You mean the lover pairs voting together? I disagree with that idea because of the possibility that the pair disagrees with each other.

[SpyreX]

So, all your suspicions, in general, are based on voting you because you gave a bad plan and said you were scum?

Gimbo, my good man, that is a whole mess of OMGUS.

[Adel]

i already explained why i suspect you, SpyreX and Knight. Knight is exempt because he is a noob, SpyreX hasn't given me any more reads so that leaves you.

The only reason I recall was that we were voting for you, of course you tried to make it sound more complicated than that.

[eldarad]

Vote Count

Gimbo (4) -

Harvey Pew, Adel, SpyreX, KNIGHT42

Chelseafan (2) -

somestrangeflea, forbiddanlight

KNIGHT42 (1) -

Firestarter

Forbiddanlight (1) -

chenhsi

SpyreX (1) -

Chelseafan

Adel (1) -

Gimbo

Not voting (2) -

MafiaSSK, Nameless

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

[KNIGHT42]

If I'm so off with my prediction of the 4 mafia, how come none are voting for the opposites?

I mean we do have to lynch if we want to win, right?

[KNIGHT42]

Gimbo (4) - Harvey Pew, Adel, SpyreX, KNIGHT42
Chelseafan (2) -

somestrangeflea

, forbiddanlight
KNIGHT42 (1) - Firestarter
Forbiddanlight (1) -

chenhsi

SpyreX (1) -

Chelseafan

Adel (1) -

Gimbo

Not voting (2) - MafiaSSK, Nameless



I guess flea has voted for his fellow mafia member...

I say to prove our point we vote for Chelseafan and see what happens with his vote.

Unvote, Vote: Chelseafan

[Gimbo]

Knight, you are so noobie you leave me speechless, with that said, just don't say anything, please.

I still find all of you non-claimers anti-town because claiming can never actually hurt town. After claiming, we can dismiss 2 people at a time as town or scum, instead of 1 by 1, which makes things much more convoluted.

[chenhsi]

I guess flea has voted for his fellow mafia member...

I say to prove our point we vote for Chelseafan and see what happens with his vote.

Unvote, Vote: Chelseafan

Why do you think flea is voting for his fellow mafia member? The only reason you think they are mafia is because they claimed.

Why should Chelseafan's vote change because you voted for him?

If you really think we are scum, why don't you vote for Gimbo, who has more votes and is closer to being lynched?

[Chelseafan]

chenhsi, what are your thoughts on everything in Page 5? thnx.

You mean the lover pairs voting together? I disagree with that idea because of the possibility that the pair disagrees with each other.

This.

If I'm so off with my prediction of the 4 mafia, how come none are voting for the opposites?

I mean we do have to lynch if we want to win, right

My vote is still random. I forgot to add this to my watched topics.

I guess flea has voted for his fellow mafia member...

I say to prove our point we vote for Chelseafan and see what happens with his vote.

Unvote, Vote: Chelseafan

I've actually no idea what you're on about.
Let me try to understand anyway though.

Me, and thus chenhsi are scum. As are Gimbo and SSF?
Have I got the jist of it?

Can I ask why?

Also

unvote

[KNIGHT42]

Why do you think flea is voting for his fellow mafia member? The only reason you think they are mafia is because they claimed.

Why should Chelseafan's vote change because you voted for him?

If you really think we are scum, why don't you vote for Gimbo, who has more votes and is closer to being lynched?

I think flea is currently voting for his fellow mafia member because the vote is him of suspicion. I think that if we put a majority on chelseafan, flea would withdraw his vote if mafia,

making this a perfect litmus test

or keep it if he is either stupid or innocent. You may have misunderstood my writing, I meant to say that flea would change vote, not chelseafan.

That should answer all three of your questions and clear up any confusion.

[Gimbo]

omg......

[KNIGHT42]

Alright since everybody is having such a hard time understanding me we'll go through this again.

1. Gimbo WIFOM, claims scum along with flea
2. Chenshi and Chelseafan quickly follow suit
3. Silence
4. People suspect of Gimbo, votes accumulate (none from the possible mafioso)

I think that if mafia, flea has a vote on chelseafan to seemingly free both from suspicion.

So I think to test this, we should put a close (but not total... yet) majority on chelsefan.

If flea withdraws:
A. Both are mafia
B. Flea is mafia, trying to perhaps frame chelsea
C. Is town and = worthless
If he stays
A. Mafia and dumb at the same time
B. Town and innocent thus clearing the likes of gimbo






If flea

[KNIGHT42]

See Gimbo, what is wrong with my proposition? It gives the town a chance to find some mafia, and a chance for you to free yourself from doubt

[Gimbo]

Knight, you are

1) assuming that 1 pair out out me/flea and chensi/chelseafan must be scum... if you are really town, you are sure making the scums really happy.

2) basically saying that flea can't withdraw his vote or he is scum....how does this make any sense? Picture yourself voting for someone, but later withdraw because you no longer find him/her suspicious, only to find others calling you a scum withdrawing a vote from your scum-buddies,....doesn't this just make you go 'wait, wtf?!"

Please do us a favor and go read up on another Polygamist Game, I think its Open 79, just search 'polygamist' in the forum. In that game, you'll see that claiming lovers on Day1 was the norm and that it was those who don't claim, rather than those who does, that were seen as scummy.

I claimed lover, followed by chensi claiming love,r both are pro-town actions, followed by 3-4 people refusing to claim and getting very angry which = scumminess.


Knight: what do you think of SpyreX and Adel's response to what I proposed?

[KNIGHT42]

I will gladly read up on SpyreX and Adel's response to what you proposed but I have one thing to add/question.

Why would flea withdraw his vote if he is a town? Because if we find go through with the lynching of Chelseafan, and he is innocent, I will thus reveal my partner leaving us with an easy win!!!

that's all for now

[Chelseafan]

Alright since everybody is having such a hard time understanding me we'll go through this again.

1. Gimbo WIFOM, claims scum along with flea
2. Chenshi and Chelseafan quickly follow suit
3. Silence
4. People suspect of Gimbo, votes accumulate (none from the possible mafioso)

I think that if mafia, flea has a vote on chelseafan to seemingly free both from suspicion.

So I think to test this, we should put a close (but not total... yet) majority on chelsefan.

If flea withdraws:
A. Both are mafia
B. Flea is mafia, trying to perhaps frame chelsea
C. Is town and = worthless
If he stays
A. Mafia and dumb at the same time
B. Town and innocent thus clearing the likes of gimbo



If flea

So basically now SSF cannot withdraw his vote from me without being mafa, or as you so nicely put it worthless.Ok.

So put a majority on me, because..we want to see if Flea is mafia. Ok

[KNIGHT42]

SSF is either a scum or a townie that isn't your partner. But now that you say it, we are kind of testing SSF too! even better

[Gimbo]

Why would flea withdraw his vote if he is a town? Because if we find go through with the lynching of Chelseafan, and he is innocent, I will thus reveal my partner leaving us with an easy win!!!

that's all for now

for the record, a townie can and will withdraw votes as circumstances change and people become more/less scummy.

I'm confused by what you just said, if Chelseafan is innocent, how does that confirm ANYONE in any way? easy win?!? what?!

Ok, Knight, you are either
1) genius in disguise under the illusion of noobieness if you are scum or 2) an extremely bad and mislead townie.

If everyone claims right now, I'm sure we will have a great chance of catching scum on D1. Just imagine...if Adel and SpyreX were lovers, lol, that makes things alot easier.

[Gimbo]

So basically now SSF cannot withdraw his vote from me without being mafa, or as you so nicely put it worthless.Ok.

So put a majority on me, because..we want to see if Flea is mafia. Ok

oh good lord..Chelseafan, I share your pain

[Chelseafan]

I'm just rather confused at the plan that's all.

It proves nothing from what I can see. Maybe I'm missing something though.

[chenhsi]

Is anyone besides knight42 NOT confused with his plan?