unvote Firestarter, FoS Firestarter, FoS Killa Seven
(the tag didn't take)armlx: At page two, seems to have expected a couple of responses, re LTG and CF Riot regarding the wagons. Points out my post is scummy. Points out K7 as scummy for voting me with a caution that makes him seem like he thinks I'm town. Points out dcorbe is way behind. Argues with K7 about voting me. Feels really bad about me with my "I had a plan" post. Brings up LAL about my plan, which most people do think is a lie...got sarnath'ed bottom of page 6 about how I could have coasted as scum with the self vote on me. Armix states that Firestarter puts too much importance in his vote. Says it's an appeal to emotion when I claim I'm town. Votes forbiddanlight. Claims erratic play is the sign of a liar. Armix points out a lot of my defense as "You are wrong b/c I am town". I guess it could be construed that way. I don't think so, but yeah. Argues that lynching a bad town player is not the best move. States rarely voting on FL 2's part is only helpful as scum. Says common sense trumps gut unless gut has logic.
Joubert: By page 2, has a vote on dcorbe for "obvious reasons". Comes back Page 7, having NEVER explained those obvious reasons, with a big analysis post on the game. Also questions me. Responds to LTG's responses to his questions. Dislikes LTG's responses for acting odd.
killa seven - Page 3 states a dislike of random voting, and thusly doesn't do it. Gets confused by the meta talking about a cop. Votes me with a statement implying he thinks I'm town. Claims it was a bluff to see if I "really wanted to play this game". This is about as bad as my claim it was a plan, I personally think. Argues pity is for the weak. Claims that he knew I'd "cop out" and claim I was baiting scum. Twists what I was saying to show an "inconsistancy".
FaerieLord -replaces in, questions me about the game, and who I find scummy, after analyzing key posts. I might just be a bad player, he seems to think. Pulls a Corinthian on me with his question about how my plan was to look scummy. Also apparently rarely votes.
SpyreX - analyzes constantly it seems. Seems rather against what LTG did, buut doesn't vote him. Also calls out my vote mention. Needs a reread to figure out what scum vibes he feels. Page 5 also points out that you can catch scum D1. Also points out the fallacy of voting inactives. Points out my post is scummy. Self vote confuses him. Wonders if there is a jester. Points out dcorbe is way behind. FoS' killer for voting me while thinking I'm town. Wants to reread again claiming someone has scum vibes. (didn't he say that earlier?). Posts that Firestarter's FoS is kinda OMGUS and not even committal. Thinks that me and K7 are likely both town and the scum are laughing at this exchange. Does a reread. SpyreX also dislikes my wording, as well as my certainty. MEgaposts analysis, votes me claiming that you can't WIFOM yourself out of a good lead. Claims my case is a lot worse than K7s, also points out holes in my logic. Wants my thoughts on who is scum. Finds FL 2 non-commital, doesn't see my lynch as solid and wants to hear other cases.
forbiddanlight - Page 1&2, Voted an inactive, keeps bringing it up...yeah. Page four, more bellyaching about inactive. Fluff post on page 4. Page four begins to look a little bad for me since my posts feel like posting for the sake of posting, and also include a fallacy that scum usually isn't caught D1. Page 5 involves a scummy post that dismisses Gimbo and Bogre's attacks on me, not committing to anyone being scum, and overall just posting for the sake of posting. To be fair, I kinda agree with that assessment, though I didn't mean to do that. Votes self at this point, saying she gives up. Claims to look scummy. Claims to know what a Jester is. Claims to have had this clever plan, which was ruined by the fact she looks scummy. (wow, I never realized how ridiculous that looked until I reread that. I mean, it was true, but I understand others POVs a bit better now). Tries to explain her reasoning, votes K7, points out she could have coasted with her self vote with people assuming she was misguided townie rather than dangerously execute a plan. Posts some long tirade about spies and how she can handle pressure (to be honest, this was also rather pointless, and brought on by emotion) I claim that I've asserted I'm town several times. Also that no matter what I said someone would call it out. Claims to have asserted she's played mafia before (those posts have been cited). Answers Joubert's questions. Claims intuition on K7, claims RL for emotionalness. Claims the trap is for the good of the town. Corrects Killa. Answers posts from SpyreX and Gimbo. Answers Spyrex's posts. Right now the defense is pretty much "I had a plan, it failed, K7 is scum, so you shouldn't vote me". Posts thoughts on who she thinks is scum, as well as appealing to emotion with such comments as "Hope you find scum next half of the day". Claims Firestarter is twisting her posts. Smartass comment to Bogre about how they are lynching town. Posts who she thinks is scum, in descending order. Claims another spin job on her words by firestarter, votes firestarter.
Gimbo - defends himself against Page 1 wagon, votes Dcorbe on an ongoing game joke. Points out CF Riot might be overeager to look townie. Points out my post is scummy, cuts me slack for being "new". States town should never be fine dying. Encourages the game as one of lying...though apparently LAL is rather alive and well. Continues advising me that scumminess != scum all the time. Tells K7 to get off my case, because I basically soft claimed (?? Did we ever get an explanation for this?) Gimbo dislikes my wording "One of us is scum". Tries to say I pulled a noob tell. Votes me, claiming I was pretending to be a poor noob. Unvotes, claims my play is erratic (it is :S).
Firestarter - Unvotes me Page Six after a Page one random vote on me. Doesn't think either me or Killa's actions warrant and FoS. That seems rather non committal :S. Feels possibly both K7 and I are townie at this point, won't let FoS' or votes be dictated by Corinthian, citing his post count. FoS' CFR for what he said about the FoS. Doesn't really feel the need to vote anyone at this point. The first word twist about how I say "I didn't intentionally look scummy", and he makes it say "Oh, so you WERE planning on quitting?" Continuing into a diatribe about how bad I look, how K7 is likely town, voting me. Claims my plan was a lie, and not thought out (I agree with the latter, but it was a plan). Another word twist, where I say "I'm lying?" In a sarcastic way to point out his hypocracy, and then uses the "I'm at the full truth" comment to imply I'm contradicting myself. Claims forbiddanlight rates scumminess based on the level of attack on her. Changes what Corinthian meant to him saying I'm town, not what he actually said of it not making me town. Claims he's not twisting words, but providing alternatives.
CF Riot - Page 1 dislike of random voting, page 2 advising Gimbo because of his wagon reaction. Also feels from previous experience that even a weak case needs credence (say one based on random votes), but not random voting is not scummy. I guess that works :S. Also wants to "appear" townie. Gimbo is right that that's a little odd. Is willing to have the spotlight on him because he figures it'll clear him. Votes K7 (for voting someone that he thought was town), FoS' Firestarter (for being non committal with even FoS'), doesn't say much about me at all. Finds me scummy, K7 scummier.
Corinthian - does that "cop interview" style questioning about random voting. Corrects my assumption that D1 is a crap shoot. Plays both sides of the issue stating that killa's vote was stupid, but agrees with his basic idea. Comes back in Page 7 to start questioning me. Asking about my plan. Continues pushing me, with a vote this time. Agrees with forbiddan's posts relating to word twisting by firestarter, claims firestarter might be distancing.
LaptopGun - Questions the wagon and counter wagon, gets called out by armix for pointing this out in random voting phase, page 3 justifies by a meta read that should imply he is given to flights of fancy with odd things :S. Further explains what conclusions he can draw from the random voting. Says SpyreX is voice of reason. Meta comments at the bottom of page 4. Unvotes, finally addressing the issue at hand page 6, finds Killa's actions scummy. Points out that both me and Killa were likely gambling for something. Comes back Page 9 with quotes from another game that just ended to justify his absence...oook. Then thinks forbiddanlight is scummy, also states it's her reactions, NOT her initial self vote. Answers Joubert.
ShadowGirl - Page 2 mostly jokes around, fluff posts something about her joke...Comes in to say her access has been bad. OK...
dcorbe - seems interested in meta reads, is on the Gimbo wagon, FoS's Shadowgirl for joking and such. To be honest, I can see this slightly. Jumps in talking about a...meta discussion? Erm...way past that I think. But a good way to ignore the current drama...noted.
Manito - "I agree with this post" behavior, FoS' Killa. Another "I agree with this post"...but proposes the theory both K7 and I are scum and that my plan was to get an over aggressive townie, and this plan failed so K7 puts pressure on my so I can back out...meh, too risky in my eyes, but ok. More "I agree with this post" page 7. Votes me, answers Spyrex, agrees with SpyreX. Agrees my play is erratic, and that my play doesn't seem very town.
Bogre- Jumps in Page 3 with a vote on LTG, claiming he is trying to look town with weak reasoning. Understandable, and actually makes me feel better about my later view that he finds scum by aggressively attacking them with votes rather than sitting around with discussion. Jackals them, rather. Moves on to me for "putting onus on my vote". Relents the attack slight because I'm a newbie. Tells me to unvote and hunt scum. Accuses me of lying with my plan, agreeing with armix. Hasn't voted me as of page 7, but is definitely leaning my way, though initial thoughts were frustrated townie. Dislikes a comment I made about how the town was lynching townies.
Voodo - IS NOT AROUND! Waiting on replacement for him
Argh, I'm done, all of the rest is page 10. I have to go to bed. Tomorrow, I'll reread this analysis and make my vote. I meant to do it tonight but this took too long.
ALL IN ALL YOU'RE JUST A...
forbiddanlight - 5 (killa seven, armlx, SpyreX, Manito, Corinthian)
killa seven - 1 (CF Riot)
LaptopGun - 1 (Bogre)
Gimbo - 1 (dcorbe)
Joubert - 1 (ShadowGirl)
Not Voting - FaerieLord, Voodo, LaptopGun, Joubert, Gimbo, Firestarter, forbiddanlight
18 alive, 9 to lynch.
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