Thespival Mafia (Denouement)

[Mizzy]

It seems safe to assume that there will be no replacement for Iammars by the end of the day (reasonable since even if one magically appeared, they would hardly have time to catch up before tomorrow, and we've already had our maximum one deadline extension for the day). From this point of view, Iammars is certainly not going to be any help today, and might not be for the rest of the game. I don't see him as particularly scummy, but that's primarily since he's stayed pretty quiet and unhelpful -- in fact, the only thing I have in my notes on him is a seemingly unreasonable attachment to MeMe. The pros for lynching Iammars are the above point that he's not contributing and that it saves Thesp from finding a replacement. The cons (for me, at least) are that we ignore the two scummiest players for another day. It's also possible that Iammars will die overnight anyway, though the mafia has admittedly not been very helpful about killing people that request it. All in all, this Iammars bandwagon just seems too convenient.

I agree but at the same time, I don't think either of the others will be lynched today, either. As for dying overnight, I see no reason the scum would kill him because if he is town, then he's dead weight and so hurts town to stay alive. I don't like policy lynches or the lynches of unhelpful people usually, but considering the pros and cons of this lynch, I'd be okay with it. He does read as anti-town, and while I know anti-town doesn't always mean scum, it's still hurting us to have him around at this point, in my opinion.

[petroleumjelly]

Unvote: Iammars

. Need to think about this.

[petroleumjelly]

Deadline in about two and a half hours! >< Looks like I can only vote between Iammars and Beep! Beep! at this point. I will decide before deadline and outline my reasons (probably will be rushed).

[Beep! Beep!]

I'd love to help but I ain't got no vote.

[Beep! Beep!]

If I could, I would lynch mathcam, but tragically I cannot.

[petroleumjelly]

Here's where I am currently at:

Possible partners for Beep! Beep! (if she is scum)

• Likely: Holy
  
• Plausible: mathcam, Mizzy [solely for voting Iammars over BB!]
  
• Somewhat Implausible: MGIA [for stealing her vote]
  
• Not Considering: Iammars, hasdgfas, myself

Possible partners for Iammars (if he is scum)

• Likely: mathcam
  
• Plausible: MGIA, Holy
  
• Somewhat Implausible: Mizzy [based on AmeliaSlay and latest vote]
  
• Not Considering: Beep! Beep!, hasdgfas, myself

MGIA has had windows of opportunity to lynch both BB! and Iammars at this point. I'm going to check to see if he posted anywhere on the site during those two windows.

[petroleumjelly]

Okay, MGIA posted five times during the window at which Beep! Beep! was at three votes, and posted zero times during the window at which Iammars at three votes. If BB! is town and MGIA is scum, he missed a good opportunity (whether or not it would be ultimately successful, since he would have to survive the night) to win the game. He is also probably not scum

with

BB! on account of stealing her vote. Slap these pieces of information together (as well as tyhess' early Jester claim) and I think I am more comfortable of thinking as MGIA as "probable town" at this point, which will push him down to "somewhat implausible" on the Iammars scale.

[petroleumjelly]

Vote: Beep! Beep!

Explanation coming up, but voting now gives BB! the maximum time to respond.

[Beep! Beep!]

I know you gave it considerable thought, PJ, but you got it wrong.

Well at least I'm just vanilla. I certainly did my best.

[petroleumjelly]

Note sure if I've done this yet: Amen, Hallelujah!

1.)

Iammars is absent. If he is town, he may be a power role. If he is scum and not replaced, he has a much higher chance of missing a night-choice than Beep! Beep! does.

2.)

BB! has seemed consistently a little bit over the top for me this game. I tend to think she plays a more mellow game as town.

3.)

Interactions with CKD had them both calling each other Jester, and then once Pooky-Jester died they largely avoided each other.

4.)

I think Holy is slightly more likely to be scum than mathcam, and Holy seems a likely BB! partner.

Question for mathcam

: If you are on-site before deadline, why do you think the Iammars wagon is 'convenient'? Do you think any of the players on it are scum? If so, which?

[petroleumjelly]

BB!, please link me to the last three games you have played as town where you were lynched. I will be skimming LO2 very quickly.

[Beep! Beep!]

BB!, please link me to the last three games you have played as town where you were lynched. I will be skimming LO2 very quickly.

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=106967
Most recently. I was Kami of Lunacy in that game.

Start with that one while I find more.

[Beep! Beep!]

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2806

That one, but it's old.

[petroleumjelly]

Blargh, LO2 is actually seems (on the surface) very similar to this game. Disinterested as vanilla,

a little

'over the top', but not as much as this game. I think I have like 7 minutes or something.

[Beep! Beep!]

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3161&start=0

That too.

[petroleumjelly]

Can't isolate your posts in MTG that I can see. You were Mason in BoI? That makes things harder.

[Beep! Beep!]

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... start=2150

[Holy]

Well, before I voted Iammars, I've been thinking it over, I've weighing between all the remaining players, measuring for their each play, and I feel comfortable with my choice.
Iammars did seems quiet and unhelpful which not quite a clue of being scum from most perspective, but he's just different, he seems playing safe with his opinion, unlike MGIA, MGIA is a bit quite too, but he's been sound with his suspicion or thoughts.
I don't care if people think I'm scum, my suspicion at B!B! just not as strong as it used to be.

[Beep! Beep!]

Can't isolate your posts in MTG that I can see. You were Mason in BoI? That makes things harder.

Yes I was, still got myself lynched, haha. Claim to shame.

[petroleumjelly]

Thinking. God, I hate deadlines. Why did it have to be during finals weeks!?

[petroleumjelly]

Starting to wonder if I'm choosing between two townspeople at this point. I am also being influenced by the fact that if BB! is scum and I unvote her right now after I've been trying to get her lynched for days, I will kick myself for all eternity after this.

[petroleumjelly]

[Damn, I think 'deadline' has hit, but I will try to come to a decision before it hits 9:30 my time just in case].

[Holy]

EBWOP 2017: *bit quiet

[Beep! Beep!]

I will kick myself for all eternity after this.

You will because I'm town, but hey, don't kick too hard, at least I'm no power role and no one listens to me anyway.

I was a good sport thought, I tried my best even if I had no vote.

But hey it happens.

[Holy]

I think it's ~30 minutes more before deadline hit.