Patrick wrote:Any particular reason why you tried to telegraph being a vanilla townie? Did you do that in Underground Mafia?
Part of it stemmed out of the attack on me on Day 1. I defended myself by explaining why I reversed course on Guardian, and I simply told the truth, because I didn't know what else to do. I didn't want to look evasive or counterattack. I knew I couldn't claim, as that would have been suspicious with only four votes on me. But I wanted to be as honest as possible with the town. So I wanted to establish an open and transparent playstyle and act my role properly to help the town, to try to help people see me for who I was. I knew I would never claim anything other than vanilla townie. I've tried to be as good of a townie as possible and I've tried to respond properly to everything asked of me.
When I brought up the massclaim yesterday, I was confused about the possible setup. Since I had no power, I tried to share what little information I had to help the town. I didn't have much information about what was going on, but I figured someone else probably did (I thought there was probably another town power role somewhere that could benefit from it). When I said I had nothing to hide, I meant it literally. At that point, given the setup confusion, when talking about a massclaim, I tried to reinforce again that I had nothing to hide. Not having any other information besides the lynch scenes and dawn posts, my speculation on the setup and desire for information about it was all genuine. I was trying to analyze the setup just like I did at the end of Underground Mafia.
I didn't really have to telegraph my role in Underground Mafia, because I was never in any serious trouble in that game. I received exactly one vote in that entire game (from someone that everyone thought was scummy at the time) after the random phase, and by Day 3 or so, most of the players, even the scum, pegged me as a confirmed townie. But I also did my best to act transparently in that game to avoid suspicion and help the town by trying to give them one less suspect to consider.
If you read/skim Underground Mafia, I think you'll see that I played the same style of game as I have in this one. I don't have the experience to be much good at picking up on subtle tells, and I know that. Instead, I tried to pick out logical inconsistencies and press for further details on explanations I found strange. At the end, I tried to reason out the setup and develop a strategy to put the town in the best possible position for the endgame. As it turned out, I had a fairly good read on most people by the end of Day 3 in that game. I've had a much harder time getting good reads here (though, in my defense, I don't think I am the only one in that boat).
I can think of another reason why you (telling the truth as a Vig) weren't killed last night, but I'd like to hear Erg0 and Matt_S's claims before I say why.
Matt_S wrote:@Jitsu: I'm vanilla. However, I'd like to hear why you try to hint that you're vanilla. People breadcrumb power roles for evidence when they claim. Breadcrumbing vanilla just gives the mafia a chance to hit other townies who are power roles.
Thank you, that was what I was expecting. Please refer to my answer to Patrick above. If that doesn't answer your question, please let me know.
