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Post Post #137 (isolation #0) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:12 am

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lynched while I was away. Oh well. Titus was just OMGUSing. She had scum reads on everyone that scumread her so like if you listened to her then sure you woulda killed me but you woulda have killed mostly town.
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Post Post #139 (isolation #1) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:14 am

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We had wank for power. We had a motion detector and that was all but I'm not really counting the loved traitor. I would like to know who thought this was balanced or was it only approved for normalcy?
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Post Post #141 (isolation #2) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:16 am

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Well you killed a doing nothing Nos which is an acceptable vig kill. Sonia has prob won this.
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Post Post #142 (isolation #3) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:17 am

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its maybe me being salty but I didn't think Sonia played all that great.
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Post Post #143 (isolation #4) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:20 am

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I was lynched for your sins.
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Post Post #145 (isolation #5) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:23 am

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What was the mod error, you were protected?
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Post Post #147 (isolation #6) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:26 am

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how many shots did you have?
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Post Post #149 (isolation #7) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:27 am

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unlimited?
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Post Post #151 (isolation #8) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:28 am

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Post Post #153 (isolation #9) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:09 am

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no I am not. What I'm saying is that its lame town had so much power and even the SK had as much power as scum.
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Post Post #163 (isolation #10) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:35 am

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I'm not saying that if scum lose its b/c this game was imbalanced, I'm saying town had a significant amount of power as where scum didn't. Town had a full vig, a full GS, a full VC and 2 masons. That seems like a hell of alot of power compared to a 2 goons, a md and a passive loved modifier. Maybe I'm in the minority but I think saying this was balanced is kind of lol.
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Post Post #180 (isolation #11) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:53 am

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In post 166, mhsmith0 wrote:I think you underestimate both how dumb town can be (and especially how dumb vigs can sometimes be), and how much help they need to have close to 50-50 odds. Vig/GS/IC vs 2 goons and just a little bit extra (like a motion detector) in 10v3 mini normal is probably about balanced; essentially expanding the roster and adding a bit of power to both sides keeps it around balanced.
Monkey Man lost a game of modding experience for this exact same reason. Yea most town players are bad but no mod should ever stack town so they have a chance. I've been in minis where the scum had more power than we did in this game. I'm not going to buy that this was balanced regardless if it was approved for balance. Like I'm not saying that town, if they win, only won b/c they had a ton of power but it didn't hurt.
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Post Post #249 (isolation #12) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:31 am

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In post 241, Alisae wrote:
In post 141, Nero Cain wrote:Well you killed a doing nothing Nos which is an acceptable vig kill. Sonia has prob won this.
someone made a post that made me think Sonia was an SK that's just not shooting.
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Post Post #250 (isolation #13) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:37 am

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In post 237, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 4421, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 4416, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Motion Detector,
Loved Traitor,
vs
Masons
Gunsmith,
Vanilla Cop,
Vig
3 shot roleblocker
If this is srsly the setup everyone on that review team needs to be fired
I mean I've seen setups worse than that one for balance, but yeah that would have been bad, and I don't think I've ever reviewed a setup that was horrible for balance, especially not in the normal queue.
I was saying the same thing earlier and you were defending that it wasn't a bad setup lol.


Don't read unless you want to be spoiled

Pine is scum so the rb is obv fake so the legit setup is

Motion Detector,
Loved Traitor,
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Masons
Gunsmith,
Vanilla Cop,
Vig
BG (someone said there is one)
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Post Post #251 (isolation #14) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:38 am

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In post 245, mozamis wrote:Titus is just running on OMGUs, as she has been all game.
so much fucking this btw
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Post Post #260 (isolation #15) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:05 am

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In post 252, CloudKicker wrote:Nero, why was i the kill ?
I had actually thought Sonia was the traitor and it looked like you might vote her so I was trying to save you , you were also shade throwing onto your scumteam so we didn't realize you were the traitor and Pine thought you were just load.
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Post Post #261 (isolation #16) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:14 am

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In post 253, mhsmith0 wrote:Except that sonia was talking about a theoretical setup with ANOTHER town PR, on top of what the actual setup was. And while 3-shot rb isn't amazing (gated PR, and rb < jk, cop, vig, etc), it's still a generally decent power, and is certainly claimable to prevent a mislynch as well.
I'm not really sure how you see

Motion Detector
Loved Traitor
vs
Masons
Gunsmith,
Vanilla Cop,
Vig
BG (someone said there is one)


balanced

but

Motion Detector
Loved Traitor
vs
Masons
Gunsmith,
Vanilla Cop,
Vig
3 shot RB


unbalanced

Even regardless of a 5/6th pr ,depending how you view masons, I don't even think a

Motion Detector
Loved Traitor
vs
Masons
Gunsmith,
Vanilla Cop,
Vig

is balanced
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Post Post #264 (isolation #17) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:44 am

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thing is, "town are bad so they should get more power" shouldn't have any place in a balance disscussion.
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Post Post #270 (isolation #18) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:30 pm

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Post Post #271 (isolation #19) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:36 pm

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In post 267, mozamis wrote:
In post 264, Nero Cain wrote:thing is, "town are bad so they should get more power" shouldn't have any place in a balance disscussion.

Town aren't bad, they are in a ridiculously hard position. I'm pretty sure mafia was invented as a face-to-face parlour game. The internet gives scum a few extra power roles. (or whatver, i mean that loosely).
I kinda agree and I kinda disagree. Like I think scum hunting is pretty difficult but there
ARE
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Post Post #274 (isolation #20) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:53 pm

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When you do VCA on d1 with no flips I'll be impressed
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Post Post #276 (isolation #21) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:21 pm

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that's my point. VCA is only some what reliable after deaths and I skimmed that game and I don't remember seeing you using VCA to push either scum. I do think that you were suspicious that a wagon dissipated on one player but that's not VCA.
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Post Post #278 (isolation #22) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:53 pm

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I CARE! I want the win.
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Post Post #289 (isolation #23) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:58 am

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Maybe without the mod error Gerry won't have been there to chainsaw defend his bestie.
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Post Post #313 (isolation #24) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:02 pm

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GO TITUS GO!
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Post Post #323 (isolation #25) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:17 pm

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yeah they should have realized that my switch on Tywin means he was very unlikely to be my buddy
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Post Post #326 (isolation #26) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:18 pm

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but then Moz has hit the nail on the head, Titus is just OMGUS lynching everyone that voted her d1
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Post Post #327 (isolation #27) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:21 pm

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If I was town I prob would have pushed him. Like I obviously gave reasoning to my fake scumreads and he was all like "Nero isn't doing anything!" and I may have thought that was scummy but then the new site meta is kinda dumb=town.
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Post Post #329 (isolation #28) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:24 pm

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yeah the LYLO will be tough.
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Post Post #330 (isolation #29) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:25 pm

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In post 328, CloudKicker wrote:@nero what do you mean by pine thought i was load, as pr ?
I don't really remember that. He just thought you were loud-mouthed town
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Post Post #332 (isolation #30) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:54 pm

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you were killed
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Post Post #333 (isolation #31) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:55 pm

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you would have also died the night before protecting Ali but mod error
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Post Post #344 (isolation #32) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:01 am

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Post Post #345 (isolation #33) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:17 am

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In post 341, Tywin Lannister wrote:Sadly, I think it's game over.
I think that LYLO will be tough. Pine's no kill one night and our miskill of the traitor fucked us over. Otherwise we would have had this in the bag.
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Post Post #352 (isolation #34) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 6:55 pm

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my lynch was mostly based on OMGUS and your "POE"
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Post Post #353 (isolation #35) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:31 pm

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also CABD brush your teeth bro
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Post Post #372 (isolation #36) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:07 pm

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In post 359, Tywin Lannister wrote:Titus would rather lose than use any kind of logic or common sense
she is more interested in playing to a certain meta me thinks. Or maybe she just is this bad. :/
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Post Post #373 (isolation #37) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:32 pm

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I mean, I'm not really sure why the whole "Titus might be a mafia doc" WIFOM never picked up. For myself (and I would assume most players) if you see a vig/SK in a game then I think its a safe assumption to assume mafia had some sorta of protection (doc, keeper, bp) and I can't really think of a game without scum protection +killing role. I mean maybe the whole "Nos died so there was no protection" thing killed it and it is a fair point.

But I think Pine should prob go ahead and kill her. I know she's town reading him so he doesn't really want to kill her but I don't think she's ever going to vote unless its a 3p lylo and if he kills AJ he undermines himself and a Titus-El-Pine lylo
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make Titus reconsider. I think he has a better chance in a AJ-EL-him group.
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Post Post #394 (isolation #38) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:56 pm

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In post 374, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 373, Nero Cain wrote:I mean, I'm not really sure why the whole "Titus might be a mafia doc" WIFOM never picked up.
For myself (and I would assume most players) if you see a vig/SK in a game then I think its a safe assumption to assume mafia had some sorta of protection (doc, keeper, bp) and I can't really think of a game without scum protection +killing role
. I mean maybe the whole "Nos died so there was no protection" thing killed it and it is a fair point.

But I think Pine should prob go ahead and kill her. I know she's town reading him so he doesn't really want to kill her but I don't think she's ever going to vote unless its a 3p lylo and if he kills AJ he undermines himself and a Titus-El-Pine lylo
might
make Titus reconsider. I think he has a better chance in a AJ-EL-him group.
Scums main counter to a vig is their night kill ability. Arguing scum must have kill stopping power vs a vig is like arguing they must have a godfather to counter a cop. No they don't. They MIGHT have a counter to it based on game balance but they certainly don't NEED to have it. I'm guessing the majority of mini normals with a vig or sk have scum given no direct counter.
I never knew that's what I was saying. Thanks for telling me. It still wasn't a balanced setup so get the fuck over yourself.
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Post Post #397 (isolation #39) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:12 pm

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no, I got OMGUS scum read and veng voted but I'm not saying anything about my belief that the setup was balanced had anything to with why I was lynch or why scum may lose.
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Post Post #398 (isolation #40) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:28 pm

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Like site meta/modding meta shifts all the time but I still think the correlation between killing roles and protective roles it a fairly decent assumption. Yes I think the game was a bit town sided but that has shit all to do with my point. My point was that I would have thouht that more town in this game would have suggested that with a killing role there should have been a protection role. So IDK if MS is just not reading/understanding my point or that I've hurt thier feeling b/c I disagree with them that its ok to stack town b/c they so much help to win.
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Post Post #399 (isolation #41) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:15 am

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In post 394, Nero Cain wrote:so get the fuck over yourself.
this is a little overly hostile and I shouldn't have said it. I'm just in a mood and was mad that MS missed my point.
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Post Post #408 (isolation #42) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:33 pm

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In post 407, mozamis wrote:And this is the internet, where everyone is full of humility, so town are golden, kids!
I like this guy
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Post Post #414 (isolation #43) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:57 am

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TBF, over the last few years I think alot of the new players have come from TOS or Epic Mafia....and its well known that town play is mostlty shit so Titus being considered good b/c she is loud isn't that surprising in the site state.
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Post Post #415 (isolation #44) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:58 am

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Also I didn't stop with my opinion b/c Titus told me to shut up. My opinions haven't changed at all.
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Post Post #419 (isolation #45) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:46 pm

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Despite the fact I was scum some of you were pretty obvious town. I just couldn't act like it....
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Post Post #421 (isolation #46) » Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:02 am

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Gon on El and vote AJ.
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Post Post #423 (isolation #47) » Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:12 am

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Jesus is never wrong. I am the answer. There are millions of people that eat my body and drink my blood each year so I must be pretty darn special.
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Post Post #425 (isolation #48) » Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:18 am

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I'm going to nuke the shit out of everyone
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Post Post #427 (isolation #49) » Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:29 am

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my knights would over run your over run your nuke sites and I'd use them against you.

In a totally unrelated story. I've been playing alot of Medieval 2 and I'll make an army of knights and just just the fuck over the other army and its just so cool.
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Post Post #431 (isolation #50) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:52 pm

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I've only done, England, Spain and Egypt so far.
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Post Post #432 (isolation #51) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:52 pm

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Also El taking so long is getting annoying.
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Post Post #434 (isolation #52) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:12 am

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I beat it as Spain on the short game. My England game is also on short, haven't finished it but am close. I have like two more french cities to take over and then Scotland. I like Egypt but the Mongols can go fuck themselves.
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Post Post #437 (isolation #53) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:41 pm

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I beat em in battle once! And I also just abandoned one of my castles one time b/c I was like "fuck fighting you" Egypt is p much designed to fight the mongols since the sacrean infantry gets a bonus against cavalry but I p much agree with you that you just need a huge fracking army to drive them off.
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