Mini Normal 2310 Dead/Spectate PT

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I'm very curious, thanks

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I'll just link the game here since it's not in my egosearch:

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I've read up to like page 5-6, I think Hu Tao is obvtown, she's playing exactly like she did in 2309.

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Ummmmmm

Flavor is playing different to his usual self but not necessarily scummy, I think.

If I HAD to decide then DD is probably town.

For anything better I'll have to read a bit more.

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Also

Arko is awake.

Uhhhh there are 13 players, not 9? Yeah I definitely knew that earlier.

BlackStar has an unorthodox thought process and this could develop into being nullscum, village-idiot, or surprise brilliant town player. We'll see.

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Dave and klaz could be town and abnegation could be wolf.

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actually that might be a townslip.

How?

it points towards kitty having a real read on leek that they just didn't post for whatever reason, as opposed to making up a townread "crumbling" when they'd never even mentioned one.

i feel like i'm not explaining this very well but i can't think how to explain it better.

Meh that seems like a stretch, they also could have just made up the town read and forgot they actually posted said read.

I am watching you Aspartame.

i mean, they could have gotten mixed up, it just vibes town to me and idk how to explain it.

I will admit, genuinely happy for you that you finally rolled scum.

Hilarious

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This game does seem slow

DAYVIG: Flavor Leaf

This is also amusing for too many reasons to explain

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My signature explains it I guess

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I wanna scumread Flavor but deep inside I know he be town

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Blackstar’s scum read of me makes sense from a pov of someone who’s never experienced the unorthodox.

However, imo, I actually did provide a decent amount whilst not really posting. I feel i was making it very obv where i stood with a lot of slots

I’ve been moderately suspicious of you but I tried to play up my suspicion a bit to see if it would get any type of reaction out of anyone. The reason I gave for voting you was weak and I felt like it wouldn’t make sense for anyone to join the wagon with me.

Your posts after the vote didn’t seem very scummy and Drew was the only one who kind of took the bait. I think the exchange he had with Abnegation where he congratulated them on rolling scum and then said this was also weird

is your sr on me a serious read?

Do I ever joke around?

Also, why assume I scum read you?

So I’m moving my vote VOTE: Doctor Drew

Brilliant town it is then.

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Yeah, dislike the camel slot having read back.
Desperate to vote anyone

have you even seen how slow this game has been going?

messed up quoting

Yeah, dislike the camel slot having read back.
Desperate to vote anyone

have you even seen how slow this game has been going?

I've barely been paying attention

You come across as wanting to get anything going on anyone, with no reasoning required.
I dislike that

how come is an active plastyle (compared to reactive one) scummy

I dislike that you dislike that

have you even seen how slow this game has been going?

What the heck?

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Oh I think it's just due to messed up formatting

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Dave and klaz could be town and abnegation could be wolf.

Out of curiosity, what is it about Abnegation that makes you think they're wolf?

Oh just that she had a different vibe from usual, but I have rescinded that read by now

I will give an updated read later

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I will say this: Always, ALWAYS play to your wincon. If the action doesn't for sure advance your faction to victory then please do not self-hammer

Even if I managed to defend myself d1 somehow, they'd be sitting on me the next day. When you have someone like Flavor tunneling on you and keeping urging others to lim you, that's really demotivating. It wasn't an invitation for discussion. It was "lim Leek and be done with it, no doubt".

Town got the ambitious lim they wanted.

You still have to fight.

At least give Scum a bloody nose the rest of your team can question later on in the game.

I agree

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Hope you guys don't mind me posting here all my thoughts on the game since page 11 (the point where I stopped reading).

Spoiler:

P11:
My solve is now Klazam/Ame/Abne (Abne openwolfing, Klazam a bit off in his push on cCS, Ame extremely towny but wrote a post I would 100% write as scum, knowing it would sound super towny)
Drew is also a scum candidate but probably not partnered with Abne
P12:
wtf is on with post 277??? Dave is back in the scum pool.
Flavor is obvtown. Agree with TR on Snivy.
P13 is a 1v1 that's not gonna get anywhere

I'm skipping ahead to where leek's wagon apparently starts to exist (P24?)

P23 thoughts:
calling Ame "misfade bait" is wild, Ame is like either a pro scum player or extremely towny.
Drew might be town with that questioning of Ame but if it's not followed by a push it might be scum distancing?
P24:
Okay nvm I get why Flavor is calling Ame misfade bait. I don't necessarily agree with it, but her posting is wild.
Okay nvm again, Ame is probably just town.

Also I just noticed the game is in night 4, and iirc Day 1 ended on page ~32, so did town actually speedrun 3 days in 10 pages???

Leek, I disagree with your scumreads on page 25, yeah Ger and Kitty don't leave much of an impression but there are people who have been actively scummy and I don't think you should ignore them. I feel like this might also be why you got pushed, because "good day 1 lims" is a thought of as a scummy approach to day 1.
Wow I really hope Ame was town (I didn't spoil myself any of the flips other than Leek and BlackStar) cause her push on FL is cool as heck.

Page 28: Kitty's readlist is shady as fuck
page 29 nono case on abnegation is good, same with page 30 Ame push on Abnegation
I really dislike Abnegation's vote on Leek also on P32.

Okay done with Day 1. WTF happened to make Days 2-4 into 9 pages in total???

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Day 2:
So I guess Kitty is scum, Snivy also seems like scum with their over-eagerness to push townies.
nvm, Snivy and klazam make a good case against doc!Kitty being a possibility and I don't think it's a bus right now.
Well at least that explains why Day 2 was so short.
Nono, Ame, FL locktown.

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Spoiler: Day 3

Oops forgot to spoiler last one.
Oh okay so I was right about Hu Tao being town. Wrong about Nono unfortunately. That also explains why Day 3 was so fast I guess.

Plays like that exactly why I'm gonna eventually write a Rising Star Nom for Hu Tao.

Hands down, no better player who's been on this site less than a year

Fully agreed tbh

Ok so Nono claimed Cop as well. WTF now I have 2 people I locktowned 1v1'ing each other. I think Hu Tao makes more sense as real cop though since why would scum do that? Unless Hu is rolecop and knows Nono targeted them.
Let's find out next page!

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Spoiler:

wtf is going on with the Hu/Ame/FL claims???

Wait what Nono was acftual cop LOLLLL

So at least i was right with my read on them, even though I was wrong with my read on Hu Tao. Oh well W/E. I would probably think Hu Tao was scum rolecopping Nono if not for FL trolling.

That miller claim is...

Okay I just skipped to day end to verify I am not crazy and Hu Tao isn't a miller. I was totally right about her being rolecop then.

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So I suggest a lim on scum Kitty and get limmed for it

So maybe something good came out from my presence.

Actually your reads on Kitty and Hu Tao around the end of Day 1 were pretty accurate.

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I've read up to like page 5-6, I think Hu Tao is obvtown, she's playing exactly like she did in 2309.

You were very convincing

Yeah she was
But Nono push was bad

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I mean sorry it was a very good gambit knowing she was guiltied

But it was bad as in "not towny"

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I wanna say that certain players are MVPs but actually there are too many townies that played extremely well from a mechanical standpoint. So well done to town in genreal.

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Sup snivy

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btw Nurse, can you please update OP with flips? It currently shows Hu Tao and Snivy as unflipped.

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oh my god gera

LOL that was hilarious.

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Maybe Abnegation is just a scum Ninja, and if so, I’m willing to let them win this game

Honestly would be happy for her lol.

Lol, agreed

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I believe so

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Assuming Drew is not lying and will actually flip town:

Welp, I had this distinct feeling that FL/Drew was tvt, let's see what happens tomorrow. Think scum is probably Dave.

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The last wolf is why I have certain trust issues in general.

nooooo this os such an evil thing to say

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Overall I think everyone played well this game. This is one of my favorite games I've played in.

I agree!

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You know, there's something I don't understand: why does everyone consider Davesaz to be semi-conftown?
Like previous day several people including Drew, Flavor, and I think Klazam all mentions that it's basically between Flavor and Drew, and today Flavor is saying it's between him and Klazam, but I think Dave doesn't have that much going for him? He sounds like a pretty null slot.

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But maybe it's just FL lol

Claiming that Klazam set up a gamefic of it between him and Drew when he's the one who set it up is... interesting.
And also the fact that he wasn't really considering either Klazam or Davesaz yesterday is a bit weird.

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Yeah