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I enjoy a variety of shooters. If I get this i will probably main
Soldier 76 (He plays like he is from COD or Halo)
Junkrat (I feel he is most tf2 like character and i love explosives, probably gonna be my main main)
Roadhog (I was on a pro UT clan back in the day, i<3flak cannons)
Lucio (Seems like most fun support imo)
All the tank characters excluding zarya look fun
If I get this, should I get it on xbox one, ps4, or pc?
What is everyone playing on?
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As a former competitive Unreal Tournament and a current TF2 competitive player, I think a pro 6s overwatch team will eventually consist of 1 of each of the following classes:
Soldier 76 - The most solid balanced offensive character imo
Hanzo - Very solid defensive character that I believe counts as a sniper
Road Hog - The most solid balanced tank character imo
D.va - Very solid tank character, should work well as the main pocket for Mercy give their levels of mobility and her defensive matrix
Mercy - Her Resurrection ability is amazing and she heals/buffs teammates well
Symetra - Her teleporters strike me as an essential item to a pro team. And I believe she counts as a builder
Lucio strikes me as the best support character overall, however since I think its too much to ask him to skate around and boost everyone to the front all game as players die and respawn, I see him being used during the initial push and then that player changes to mercy or symetra as the game progresses
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@IH, can you please add a poll to the thread that allows people to pick 'PC/MAC, PS4, XBOX One' for the question "For what are you getting it?"
Give people the power to select as many of those 3 as they want. Its unlikely many are getting it on multiple platforms but in case someone does probably should allow that in pollWhen I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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I used to like COD when it was about WW2, now I dislike it a lot.
Nonetheless Soldier 76 still strikes me as the most balanced and simplest character in the game. Easy to pickup and learn for everyone. The noob character that embodies the simplest of shooter concepts
TF2 has a crap ton of complicated weapons that are highly situational. Because of that, I have learned the most effective weapons in the game are the simplest of weapons that can be effective in any situation. The simplest of weapons that can be used in any situation are the stock weapons. Everyone knows how to use a shotgun. Its a shotgun, its in every shooter!When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Thanks IH you rockIn post 78, PokerFace wrote:@IH, can you please add a poll to the thread that allows people to pick 'PC/MAC, PS4, XBOX One' for the question "For what are you getting it?"
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Been speaking with some of my associates that competitive game. Really like the website http://www.overcounters.com/
Thinking best team comp should be
Defense = Hanzo Main
Offense = 76 Main that can switch to Pharah
Tank 1 = D.Va Main that can switch to Winston
Tank 2 = Road Hog that can switch to Zarya
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If you are on offense I believe 2 Offense, 2 Tank, 2 Support is way to goxRECKONERx wrote:A single offense is the way to go with two supports? I'd prefer to give up the Mercy in favor of a Tracer.
If you are on defense I believe 2 Defense, 2 Tank, 2 Support is way to go
If you are on a map that requires both offense and defense I believe 1 Offense, 1 Defense, 2 Tank, 2 Support is way to go
A team with both offense and defense is likely more versatile than the teams just geared for one or the other
So I suppose
Pharah <-> Genji (Roamer)
Reinhardt <-> Road Hog (Pick)
Widow Maker <-> 76 (Every Shooter)
Zenyatta <-> Mercy (Pocket Medic)
Winston <-> Zarya (Pocket Guard)
Lucio <-> Symetra (Utility)
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Dva = Roamer
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The team positions on a TF 2 6s team are:
DPS which is always a demo man
Roamer which is most often a soldier
Medic because you always need that
Pocket someone to guard the medic which is most often a soldier
2 utility position which are often considered Pick and Point. Two players who have a job to pick or kill certain classes or take over points.
These are usually both scout due to their speed and cap rate
Applying that to Overwatch I figured this was a good team
Soldier 76 Roamer
Hanzo PICK
Winston Pocket
Road Hog DPS
Symetra Utility
Lucio Medic
Looking at http://www.overcounters.com/
Subbing in Pharah and Widow maker for 76 and Hanzo is alot better
Widow maker is kinda a support character because her Ultimate helps everyone on the team. I wish there was a 5th support character that was the equivalent of a TF2 Crossbow medic that had a similar ultimate to widowmakers and had a ranged weapon that healed or hurt. Maybe had a wall climb. That would be all they got. Basically this character would be a hybrid of Hanzo, Zenyatta, and Widow maker
After considering the comments of Flame Axe and Reck more throughly I took a look at the team:
Pharah Roamer
Widowmaker PICK
Winston Pocket
Road Hog DPS
Lucio Medic
Genji Point
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Given the poll looks like pc is best place for me to get it. Need to do some pc upgrades to play it then or use a controller with my laptopWhen I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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I have never bought a blizzard game. If I download the game to my laptop can I also download it to my pc and pay only once?
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takes out takes out or knocks out of mech takes out?
That does sound real powerful for an ability that works on all the tanks.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Gonna be awhile before computer is ready for this and I got time for game.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Overwatch has more chokes and less flanking than TF2. Having many routes is why tf2 can be confusing. Having very few routes and lines on ground that show where offense and defense should go, make overwatch easy to understand
Overwatch has more classes TF2 has more play styles.
(Each class in tf2 has 4 loudouts, there are no loadouts in overwatch each classes equipment is set in stone)
(Explosive Demo and Demo Knight are both ways to play Demo Man while overwatch has 3 separate clases Junkrat, Genji, Reinhardt)
Overwatch has nothing close to disguises or cloak. Overwatch has unlimited total ammo but you still need to reload as all gun magazine sizes vary
Some overwatch characters have shields and or armor. TF2 has overheal that deteriorates
Lucio has compression blasts that can knock enemies off maps but not reflect projectiles, Genji can reflect non streamed projectiles
Mei, Symetra, Zarya and Winston have weapons that provide streams of damage like the pyros flame thrower. Mei is most in the Pyro spectrum, Symetra is minisentry or ofensive engineer spectrum, while winston and zarya are toward Heavy spectrum. Mei and the pyro are far from polar opposites...When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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TF2 has melee weapons. In overwatch you can punch while holding your gunWhen I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Mcree got nerfed and widow got nerfed
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpY_rKw5lNoBrandi wrote:Just thought this was interesting:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016- ... -of-skills
This 17 year old Korean girl is so fucking good at Zarya (ranked 8th best in the world currently) that she gets accused of hacking by other pros and has to prove herself.
She's pretty fucking amazing and was awesome watching her play but I feel so bad about all the stress she endured because of people not believing her.
I watched her play and it was obv not hacking. Those guys got their shit pushed in and its good they are gone from sport nowWhen I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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After marathon weekend I will be finishing my pc upgrades and will be good to install thisWhen I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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character Idea for support sniper (I so hope this is what sombra becomes)
left click shoot bullet that heals ally or harms enemy pending what it hits
right click aim down sights (Not a full sniper zoom, just an aim down sights)
This sniper riffle would be high impact built for long range that would be shit at close range (Like the crusaders cross bow in TF2)
Shift ability = throw a grenade
E ability = Put up a little defensive barrier you can hide behind for a short time
Ultimate = Either a radar your team has access to for a short time or a temporary cloak for yourself
This character would encourage people used to normal shooters like cod, battlefield, and halo, to try out support. Having more people want to try support would be a great thing in this gameWhen I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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true. But then there are alot of similar ults
Mecree's ult has aim bot like powers and so does 76's
Winstons ult is powerful melee attacks and so is genjis
The difference between widows and this one would be that widows lets you see through walls
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Actually gonna make that into two ideas
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Lazy yes but still useful I think. The one thing 76 lacks is an aim down sights and a radar to be truly the COD guy. So seeing another character with those is something I think some people would enjoy. Though it would be lazy, I think it would appeal to some.In post 307, xRECKONERx wrote:Two snipers who both have supportive vision based ultimates would be very similar and very lazy, IMO.
Cloak would be obv cooler though and is by far the character type I want more. So I really hope sombra turns out to be like that second character I mentionedWhen I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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I would be fine with the cloak you describe and it is the type I'd want
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I just hope they do not add disguising to the game. Spy should be unique to team fortress and it is easily the most confusing and diffcult for noobs to play class.
I don't want 5 spys on my team in overwatch!When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Barrier would have health to it and basically act as a stationary wall you can snipe/stand behind until its deadPokerFace wrote:
Widows ultimate would break this cloak, if someone shot you while you were cloaked you would become more visible for a second like when you shoot spy in tf2When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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PC got all necessary equipment and upgrades now
Game installing as I make this post
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and your id is?In post 337, Psyche wrote:i got it and it's like a lot
widow seems to be the one who catches on quickest
appreciate her mix of mobility, range and and power
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does this game require you to crouch a lot?
does this game require you to melee a lot?
shift is normally my crouch in pc games
left trigger is usually my melee in console games
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OK my controls have been fixed. I don't use defaults at all. Too used to E for calling medic so I bound those abilites to F insteadIn post 346, PokerFace wrote:does this game require you to crouch a lot?
does this game require you to melee a lot?
shift is normally my crouch in pc games
left trigger is usually my melee in console games
using right stick for melee or using Lcontrol for couch, wondering which would be an easier transition for me.
Since most of my shifts are movement based and F's are weapons or self related
Swapped zarya's F and shift
Swapped Mei's F and shift
Most characters can't use their secondary while using their primary, or they have no secondary. V for melee feels disgusting to me
So I have right click as secondary for 8 characters and right click as melee for 12
I have middle mouse as secondary for 8 characters and middle mouse as melee for 12
(Reaper, Hanzo, Winston, Dva have no secondary so both mid and right are melee for me)
Reinhart's F is also my middle mouse and right is secondary since primary is melee
Bastion's Shift is also my right click since he has no secondary, middle is melee
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There needs to be a way to increase the outline size for team color. I mistake who is on my team often.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Spent probably too much of my time playing this last weekend.
Thought I would main
Now that I have played this, I am mainingIn post 34, PokerFace wrote:I enjoy a variety of shooters. If I get this i will probably main
Soldier 76 (He plays like he is from COD or Halo)
Junkrat (I feel he is most tf2 like character and i love explosives, probably gonna be my main main)
Roadhog (I was on a pro UT clan back in the day, i<3flak cannons)
Lucio (Seems like most fun support imo)
Attack: 1)Reaper - 2)76
Defend: 1)Junkrat - 2)Hanzo
Tank: 1)Winston - 2)Reinhart
Support: 1)Symetra - 2)Lucio
I play characters that require little aim outside 76. Junkrat feels really good on koth to spam the hill when attacking and defend paths with spam. Biggest streak was 12 with junk and 17 with symetra.
Also I got my first legendary out of the 3rd loot box I ever opened. It was the scavenger skin for Dva. I'd like to get better with her because of it, but I feel Tanks need to shield their teammates. Take damage for their teammates, and I feel Winston and Reinhardt do that bestWhen I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Cursaders crossbow in Overwatch hype
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This game does have a learning curve. I was frustrated when i started playing. Now that I am learning what counters what and when to pick what, I am having more fun.
Still I feel this game is lacking in a few areas.
1. ItSomeone picks the wrong class, your team comp is bad against what the enemy does, you will not have fun. Its always 6v6 instead of 12v12 or 9v9 like tf2, which gives you better odds of having a medic or someone with a brain on your team.requiresmore teamwork than tf2.
2. Instead of playing what you want to play, I feel this game forces you to play certain things.In tf2 if I want to play demo and test a new loadout I can do that immediately on a lot of different maps and in the situations I want to test it. If I just want to play Heavy and there is an enemy good at stopping me, I can equip different weapons to counter them back and still play as heavy, the class I want to play as, and win. The elements of tf2 can casually adapt and even allow me to mess around as shotgun heavy for the lulz. If I want to play junkrat where I feel he is good, I need the right map with the right spam ability. And if I don't get those things, I won't win or have fun. I will have to play something else that I may not want to play.
3. Casual play is not easily viableYou can have fun in more ways with worse teams in tf2 while you can never have that in overwatch. I think I like tf2 more as you can carry your team easier in there and have fun playing what you want more easily. You can have 3 snipers on your team, and you can still win in tf2. You have 3 windows on your team, you will loose every game in overwatch. You have 3 engies in tf2 against you, there are many ways to win and play against it. You are against 3 torbs, 3 bastions, or a bastion with a rein in overwatch then you are forced to play certain things to maybe win. And if the entire team does not commit to this anti opponent strategy, then you lose!
4. Rank play requires leveling up in casual play to get into.This may be a necessary evil at the momentas I don't want trash on my team in ranked, but if I have trash on my team in casual, how will I level and win enough to get into ranked in the first place? Ranked requiring you to be good in casual feels wrong. I feel there needs to be 3 modes of play, casual, competitive and something "in between". Getting levels in "the in between" should get you into comp and provide you with people that want to play the game decently well. And casual should be more about messing around and testing and learning the game.
5. TF2 has mostly close range encounters (and characters with shotguns) overwatch has more ranged encounters and less characters with ranged adaptability.I feel 76 has best mid range versatility and adaptability. And I didn't come to overwatch to play COD. I feel there needs to be more characters with mid range ability. You can flank and get into situations you want to be in with tf2. Overwatch's maps are more choke and ranged oriented while not many characters built for the way I want for the range I need. Fact Turrets have greater range in overwatch then sentries in tf2 also hinders the close range characters more in overwatch than it hinders the close range characters in tf2.
Overall the game caters more to itself instead of the player. You can't always play what you want to win and have fun
In this game I want to get better with D.va because I have a legendary but I have trouble doing what I want to do and figuring out how she plays. I feel I will only learn how to play as D.va by being in a situation where she is useful. And if I don't currently know what that situation is, I don't see how I will get good with her. I may have to play with you panzer to see how you and or other Dva players use her. When do most people get on and play? I need some Dva tips
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Edited my post some about my gripes with overwatch
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my 4th point is the item that bothers me the least. Its arguably a necessary evil and a standard practice, but I still feel it needs to be handled differently and better, especially in game that requires a lot of teamwork. Having a heavily casual place to weed out people that want to run 6 snipers in a game, and in between area to get good, and a competitive place feels like a better means of handling things. I admit no one currently does that, but this game feels like it needs that, and needs it more than anyone other game needs itWhen I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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This post emphisizes a point I made before about 76
We associate 76 with COD because of the popularity of COD. But really I feel he has aspects of many shooters
Healing regen ability comes from Halo 3
Secondary fire explosive, think Super dragon in pefect dark
Endless sprint is cod
aim bot ultimate cod and halo
I feel instead of just 76 there should have been two prototype popular shootet guys to play with
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I have never played competitive COD nor do I ever want to as I only liked cod when it was about WW2. Once COD 3 came out, it had shitty WW2 story line with a bunch of qt events and had horribly unbalanced mutiplayer, I swear off cod.
I feel 76 is not truly the COD guy, he feels more like halo guy. And yes there is a difference. I don't want a radar. I just feel that and aim down sights are the things 76 lacks from being truly the COD guy. Though its true 76 has infinite sprint, which is a COD thing, they added infinite sprint in Halo 4. So I guess what 76 really feels like is "Halo 4 Guy". And I hated Halo 4! If I wanted to play halo 4 I would not be playing overwatch.
Halo 4 was the worst halo. It was not quite Halo 1-3 and not Quite Halo Reach and not quite Cod. Halo 4 was a game that didn't feel like it had a true identity. It tried to please and be a variety of genres and not be just one thing. I think I'd enjoy halo 4 if it was more like halo 1-3 and not some crappy side grade to what I really want. This is why I designed two different characters there. Generic shooter guy 1 is microsoft shooters (Think gears and halo) and generic guy 2 is COD guy. 76 feels like an in between generic shooter guy that is not what I really want. I'd rather he was two different guys. I'd rather have Microsoft Guy and Cod Guy, then just the crap in between.
What I actually want is a guy with actual good mid range power in this game. 76 feels the closest to being that guy. But he is not. He's moreso something I hate then something I want to play. Overwatch in some ways forces you to play what you don't want to play in order to win. And I hate that!When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Soldier 76~Spartan 117. Guy that's suppose to be dead in overwatch lore but comes back. At start of Halo 4, Chief had been in cryo for years. Arbiter and the others thought he might be dead after halo 3. The two even have story connections!! If Master Chief fought 76, Chief would win. You aren't master chief, you are a crappy substitute and you ain't cod guy either. Don't be in between the two of them. Either be the classic COD guy I used to like or be the classic Halo guy I used to like! Don't be the COD that wants to be halo or the Halo that wants to be COD. When those two games try to be the same thing, they both suck!
I also want a guy that can deal a lot of damage like junkrat. But junkrat has range issues. Demoman has better range than junkrat. Shorter fuse on demoman's grenades. If demo man was in a fight with junkrat, Demoman would win.
I want an adaptable range high dps guy. Pharah feels more built for long range as you fly over people and rain down hell from above.
Overwatch gives me "a taste" of what I want, something close to what I want, but not what I really want. And it forces me to play what I don't want to play in some ways.Last edited by PokerFace on Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:43 am, edited 1 time in total.-
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Keep 76 the same and add:
Now there's a guy that packs the range and power I want.Last edited by PokerFace on Sat Jul 09, 2016 3:12 am, edited 1 time in total.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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I don't think so. I am not saying overwatch should be like other shooters. If anything I am saying each shooter should be themself (COD be COD, Halo be Halo, don't cross the streams) 76 shouldn't have been the cheap cod/halo substitute with good mid range. He should have been cod guy or halo guy only. Or he should not be in the game at all and I should have another better mid range characterPanzerjager wrote:Is that at Poker Face?When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Got second legendary, need to learn how to play tracer well as I got her ultra violet skin. Had some fun with her last night so she appears easier to learn than I thought
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New character announced it is the support sniper that is Pharah's mom but her and sombra are not the same person like a lot of people thought. Sombra will be somone else at another time. Ana is the new character with the crusaders crossbow like sniper rifle. She shoots and heals allies. Her shots deal damage over time and can't head shot which is weird. They basically combined Sidney Sleeper sniper with crusader crossbow medic. I kinda like it. Since she is built for body shots I think she will be a lot of people's go to sniper. I much perfer a sniper that can heal me over one that can'tLast edited by PokerFace on Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:23 pm, edited 2 times in total.-
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video that shows skins and abilities
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTliwei7P6U
Ultimate strikes me as being very weak though.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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gonna need to try ptr on weekend to give her a try. Probably won't have time to play until then
Had a lot of fun with Zarya last night. Weapon is spammable in secondary and easy to aim with the steady stream in primary. Her weapon getting charge independent of ultimate is cool. If you see a teamate get an ulti or charge in, immediately shield them. You get into trouble, shield panic button. If you see a teamate get flash banged, hooked, or anything that can generate a two hit combo then use shield on them since they are due to take the second hit any moment. The dps her guns gets over time is huge. I had 100 charge in gun a couple times last night. Once hit any enemy team with her ulti and then made use of 100 charge gun's secondary to get a quad kill. Having alot of fun with her since she can do dps, support, and tank all at once if youu are willing to put in the work. Not easy to learn character
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In Ana's intro video she says "Eliminate this target" when hitting roadhog with the e ability grenade. That grenade makes them not take heals and it might make them more easily visible to your team. Or at least I hope it will (Kinda like how hanzo and widow can see enemies through walls, I hope you can see the target you hit with that weapon through walls or at least see that character's health through walls). The ability to see through walls is huge when widow and hanzo give it to their team. Ana lacking that ability would hinder her ability to support her team. Her shots on enemies do seem to make them glow purple so perhaps that will point them out some. Or make them take more damage for a short time (About as long as the damage over time poison lasts). I also hope the sleep ability points out its targets some. Her providing some scout ability would be a cool added support effect to any of her skills. I need to try her out
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yes that's why I said
and marquis saidPokerFace wrote:gonna need to try ptr on weekend to give her a try. Probably won't have time to play until thenProbably won't have time to play until then
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There's a little lightning bolt with a circular arrow that appears near top left corner of my screen. What does that mean?
Next patch is doing alot of good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No2mH5_c494
Fixing the problems I have with Dva and her very weak shield
Making Mcree comparable to 76 in mid range damage
Zenyatta getting buffed hugely!
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Played PTR. Ana is okay. She is more of a supportive support, and by that I feel she can't support the entire team by herself. You usually need another healer like lucio since he does mostly close range healing anyway. Ana can then take care of the long range. If Ana is your only support you may need to have a zarya and or 76 on your team to provide some levels of extra support
Dva and Zenyatta are so much better in the update. Mcree feels good range wise now as an alternative to 76 so in general I like the update
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Good to know. Still strikes me as a dumb thing. I should get access to the two items when the update happens in my book
The only character I have not played yet is widow maker. I never have been much of a sniper. Hanzo and Ana don't require headshots or accuracy, they require support and spamming arrows
I'd like to try her but not be the second, worse sniper on my team. Whenever I play, someone always picks her, even when on offense where its pretty dumb. Its not the dumbest thing you can do on offense. Playing torb or bastion when you don't have a payload to sit on is likely the dumbest thing
Playing symetra on offense is slightly viable. Had a game on Volskaya Industries where we got point A and then the enemy junkrat ultimated killing everyone but me. I was busy placing a teleporter pretty close to cap point B. As my team came through it, they all said wtf on microphones or team chat. We beat the map in a stupid fast time, I think around 3:30. Really wish I had recorded it. Sadly the enemy junkrat got play of the game when I really deserved it.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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That lightning bolt indicates lagPokerFace wrote:There's a little lightning bolt with a circular arrow that appears near top left corner of my screen. What does that mean?
Next patch is doing alot of good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No2mH5_c494
Fixing the problems I have with Dva and her very weak shield
Making Mcree comparable to 76 in mid range damage
Zenyatta getting buffed hugely!
Adding Ana
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The medic in tf2 can defend himself while mercy is not so good at thatGuyInFreezer wrote:So I reached the point where my "can't aim well" is biting my rear.
Also I should really stop playing Mercy like how I play Medic in TF2 lol
(Syringe gun + saw just too good. And no, I don't combat medic.)
I would suggest trying Lucio or Ana. Ana's sleep dart and self heal grenade are great for sustaining and defending yourself. Lucio's self heal and speed are great for pushing points
Ana pairs well with roadhog big target to hit and can increase his heals
Lucio pairs well with rienhart fast moving powerful shield
Mercy works well with zarya, pocket that healer
Zenny and Winston work well as they counter each others weaknesses
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Symettra is better at being a builder than a support
Symetra should not be your only support.
Same with Ana. You got to know the vantage points you can walk to. So learn the maps well before using her
Zenny can rarely work as your only support
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This weeks weekly brawl is Ana and tanks only. I would think ideal koth and attack/defend comp would be 2 roadhogs, 2 anas, 2 zaryas. Zaryas and roadys take the point with enough shields for all. Ana's snipe into the hill
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In post 451, PJ. wrote:Ana is weird. She's a sniper but she can't get to any of the vantage points.
Focus on vantage points where you can see your team, seeing the enemy is not as important with ana. Or play with a mei that boosts you with ice wall to a vantage pointYou got to know the vantage points you can walk to. So learn the maps well before using her
Ana can defend herself so getting up high and out of enemy sight is not as important
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After lots of playtime with patch now and in ptr there are a few things I'd like to change
D.vasdefense matrix lasts based on time and not damage absorbed. So it is capable of stopping more then reinhart's shield but for a shorter time. So she can deal with torb and bastion better than reinhart. I was able to block more damage with her shield in a game yesterday than I had ever blocked in one game as rienhart. Based on this I think her shield is now too powerful. The shield currently lasts for 4s max. Yo can deploy it then must wait at least 1 second to deploy it again. Takes 4s for it to get back to max. You can deploy the shield while its not at max for a shorter time of having it up.
The 1 second for every deploy needs increased to 2 seconds or the recharge to get back to full needs increased to 6s. It should not recharge at an equal use rate or become usable every 1 second. It needs greater down time in general. That way you are forced to go longer without it if you just used it all the way up.
Dvas ultimate is super powerful now. I can understand making her survive her own ultimate now since it helps players use it and there are a few characters that take no damage from their own skills already like junkrat and his bomb as well as pharah and her concussion blast. Also making her survive it, helps people who want to play as dva so you can keep her survival from the blast. BUT the self destruct is now a 3s fuse instead of a 4s. I had trouble last night telling if it was my teams dva or the enemies dva that was blowing up. The red and yellow exclamation warnings were not coming quick or long enough. One time the warnings did not happen at all on my screen and I died so I say move it back to a 4s fuse instead of the 3. And whatever bug allows those warnings to not appear sometimes, needs fixed
Also there is another bug with new dva, people have used her self destruct, summoned their mech back, and after that they can not shoot. They can only use matrix, they effectively can not kill anyone. I got this bug to happen once to me last night. And in researching the net it appears blizzard is aware of this bug. Its a very rare bug but a horrible one since you can't shoot at all. This bug absolutely needs fixed
Symetraneeds changed. She gives shields and then there is nothing she can give to her team. If that team mate looses that small 25 health shield they must take cover to bring it back. While the shield is gone or at zero there is no indicator that this teamate was ever given a shield.
If you have a symetra shield and it goes down you should hear something that tells you your shield is down so you are more encouraged to take cover while it comes back. Symetra should be able to give that shield back to the teamate immediately if she sees they don't have it currently. However buffing symetra in this way will likely require her shields to have a cool down so she is unable to shield someone indefinatly from constant damage. Ana can't constant heal, she has to shoot multiple bullets. Figure out ammount of time it takes between Anas shots and make that the cool down for symetra's new shields. Also if you are symetra you should get some indicator in the hud that shows a teamate lacks a shield from a distance. Currently you get the arrows over your teamates head but can't tell they lack a shield from far away unless you see their health. And if you just forgot you gave them a shield at the start of the match and they lost it, you can't tell that when you get to them. So showing a little shield under the arrow or a shield with or without a line through it, would be a great slight cosmetic change to help actually make her a support
Bastionfor some reason is not considered a builder while symetra and torb are. So is giving shields and armor what really makes you a builder? Seems wrong. Game should consider Bastion as a builder. This may encourage people to use torb + bastion less since you will more quickly fufill the defense builder requirement or exceed it. And game should give warnings about using torb and or bastion on payload offense. I see people in quickplay use torb and bastion for attack too often and it eventually ruins the team. Something saying you have too many builders on offense should come up more often especially since symetra is arguably trash on offense. Game currently more often warns you of too many defense characters on your team as apposed to too many builders. It should give the defense character warning less often especially since some defense characters like junkrat are great on offense.
Mercygot her ability to get res nerfed since her self heal now contributes some to building her ultimate. She currently can boost a teammate attack by 30%. In PTR they removed mercy's being able to stack onto a player and allowed her to boost them by 50%. I don't think I ever saw double mercy on a team so that was really nothing but they eventually reverted that back to 30%. I think because they didn't want her to be used more than zennyatta . Buffing zenny was a big thing. He absolutely needed it. But in doing all this they nerfed mercy overall. They should crank mercy's thing up to 40%. This way they can do what they intended to do with mercy's team mate boost. Make it an effective way for teamates to protect mercy so she does not have to rely on her practically useless gun. And this way she won't take away players from playing zenny. Zenny will still be the glass cannon battle medic
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